What's going to happen in the next 5-10 years when AI/robots start to make their biggest impact on the job market, people are already struggling to find jobs as it is, so what on earth will happen in the near future? Everything from white collar jobs in business, law, finance, medicine, etc. to working class jobs like truck driving, retail and fast food is going to be affected when the big wave starts to finally hit (its happening as we speak this moment). How will we re-skill these people? Do we really believe that a 45 year old truck driver who failed high school with two kids is going to go back to school to become a programmer or an engineer? We already have an oversupply of programmers and STEM graduates as it is for god sake.
I feel we're at a turning point in history were we will have to re-think work, leisure and maybe even how capitalism itself is done. Unfortunately none of our leaders are prepared for this great challenge that is ahead of us.
desu I hate when I see people with kids. Most of the time they're not white but the point is the market is already oversaturated with fucking people. what is called for is for humans to just start fucking off and enjoying the future but that is hard to do with so many mouths to feed
Tyler Nelson
Most of the population growth is coming from Africa and other low IQ shitholes. The problem is that white people aren't having more kids so they are forced to import third world people to come and do it for them in order grow the tax base. It's sickening and it's insane.
Jose Allen
>What's going to happen in the next 5-10 years
total liberation of the european peoples
Jonathan Foster
Do you realize that the United Nations exists and no mass deportations and genocides will occur? If you genuinely think you can round up millions of people without there being an uproar worldwide and getting international law involved then you're either stupid, naive, delusion or mentally ill, possibly all four.
Matthew Hill
its not so much that Robots replace us as leaders using the "robot replace jobs" meme to hire slaves abroad.
The globalists are eating their own system and the world is collapsing.
Lucas Diaz
this is why i tell them to focus on stabilizing demographic levels as best as possible using immigration reform. and then welfare reform and more jobs and wealth will reduce birth rates for the poorer minority communities. and nobodies going to argue with you giving them a job. and strict border control is already popular around the world, literally called populism.
or make all that look retarded with a larp and throw away the chance to at least stabilize demographic rates until minority communities were breeding at a similar rate to whites.
most rural areas are still largely white, give bigger baby bonus to rural areas under some initiative to increase the population outside of the cities.
Austin Thomas
>Do you realize that the United Nations exists the UN is nobody
Connor Ramirez
i think we're going to find that universal basic income might become a thing, but this doesn't benefit the corporations or the people, it is only a way for the government to have total dominance. with most of the population utterly dependent the state can finally enact some of what will be their less popular policies.
but that doesn't benefit most of the people looking to make a profit. universal income doesn't pay as well as jobs. they would much rather i think not replace us all with robots, because that's short sighted, they want future customers. so excuses will be made to keep humans in the loop, maybe even as sort of an unspoken realization, basic business sense, maybe fully automated companies consumers can vote with their dollar to keep their jobs we'll see. maybe even regulations can get passed against automation and free trade restricted with countries that have gone fully automated.
the fully automated countries where will they get their customers? if the countries with well paying jobs have largely closed trade with them, and their own people are now dependent and useless with little money.... they'll have to destroy the machines.
Thomas Foster
daily reminder that there is unlimited demand for labor and unemployment is a meme created by welfare and minimum wage
Nathan Jenkins
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Levi Young
Corporate greed will continue to disenfranchise the working class subjecting the vast majority of earth's population to increasing poverty and struggle for resources. Think Elysium. Only one way out: Drastically reduce current world governments entrenched lobbying, corruption and corporate access in order to truly represent the working class people that governments are supposed to represent in the first place. How? Vote, recruit help (numbers matter), get involved in your local/community governments (start small, think big) and support the right initiatives. Oppose corporate motives at every turn, with everything you can think of.
Colton Fisher
the un is a tool for the global power elite. the un is weak only when they're not interested in using it. if they wanted to wield this tool they would pull the strings to increase the power of the un. and socially engineer a situation to trick the general public in the countries with these militaries to support it.
Josiah Hall
>low birth rates, aging society >people would gladly accept lower than 40hr work week >still a shitton of jobs that robots cannot physically perform Where's the problem again?
Also "machines are taking our jobs" is a hundred-year old meme socialists used to push gibs since steam engine. And jobs are still here.
Blake Walker
AI is way overblown.
The only industry I see AI changing is the driving industry (Trucking, ride-sharing, taxies, etc), but laws will mandate that a licensed human be behind the wheel at all times.
The impact on the job market will be mostly minimal.
Noah Thomas
corporate greed will save us from automation. only the corporations greedy enough to have some long term vision will insist on keeping some nations employed to build a wealthy customer base.
the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and right now the enemy of corporate evil and powerlust is corporate greed,
You seem to underestimate the impact singularity will have in regards to AI. No there is no limit after that point
Ayden Thomas
>the un is a tool for the global power elite it's a weak tool if that
Chase Clark
>muh historical comparison in an age of exponential technological development? really dearie?
Brandon Walker
Watch Humans Need Not Apply. In the past the machines only automated basic physical processes now they can do a lot more. We have AI making music, we have robots performing surgery, we have AI doing research, we have AI that is programming itself, etc. it's much much different today.
Christopher Lee
and that is literally what i say and explain in the next sentence. did you read the entire post before responding or did you get tired after the first sentence?
William Jackson
>"I FEEL"
Get back to us when you aren't a limp-wristed cunt who makes arguments like a woman would. Men argue about what they THINK, not what they FEEL you fucking degenerate.
John Baker
hahaha ooooo we are SO scared
what you gonna do ? get the big bad UN to come and satop us ? lmfao
Chase Hill
>American education AI + robotics will reach a point one day where they will be able to do any job, the rate of technological innovation in these fields is exponential. I mean robots can perform surgeries and create symphonies these days for fuck sake.
Bentley Hughes
>did you read the entire post before responding no >did you get tired after the first sentence? yes
i read the whole thing after i posted. i stand by what i said, though. watch how the UN acts in africa. it's weak, corrupt and incompetent.
William Miller
It's not that you retard. If a genocide or mass deportation was occurring right now in some random African shithole every single country would call for international political action immediately. You have to be pretty retarded to think such a thing would be possible in today's age with how globalized and interconnected the world is. Like I said you are either naive or stupid. Get back to me when you are in the real world.
Levi Howard
for all we know, they want an excuse to build the power of the un, and what a great excuse to do so you would provide. and then you would be crushed because frankly you're not going to have any general support and resistance to you will be much higher then support even in the so called "Alt right" most of which isn't even going to want a racewar. narrow vision, walking right into a trap perhaps.
Jacob Butler
because the global elite aren't interested in using the un to fix africa. the un is a weak tool, for now, because the global elite don't want or need to use it at its full potential power yet.
Jordan Sanchez
>AI + robotics will reach a point one day where they will be able to do any job,
Yeah, in 5,000 years from now.
The only jobs AI will replace are low-level assembly manufacturing jobs, and all of those jobs are in 3rd world countries.
The western economy is based on high-skill and service, and it's a lot harder to write an all-encompassing algorithm for these skill sets.
Nathan Murphy
you can't fix africa because it's populated by blacks. the sub saharan part, anyway. giving free stuff to them is a drain to society and the just breed like mice. this only makes things worse. if there was no UN or UNICEF or christian missionaries then blacks in africa would had been extinct by now due to lack of medicine and food.
Joshua Myers
25% of my money is invested in automation and robotic companies if everyone did this, things would automate faster, and everyone would be able to benefit from it
Jeremiah Gonzalez
>What's going to happen in the next 5-10 years when AI/robots start to make their biggest impact on the job market, people are already struggling to find jobs depopulation
Tyler Reyes
I'll be living off my Universal Income in Pattaya, fucking Thai hookers every night for the rest of my life whilst my home country burns
Hudson Russell
>Think Elysium World is like my movies guys.
James Evans
i agree somewhat i think if british colonialism had stuck, if it had been supported by africans and if white guilt wasn't a thing, and if the world leaders at the time wanted a good future for africa (which many didn't) the british and dutch and french and gernmans etc could have civilized africa, brought them properity, the birth rate would stabilize. we gave up or maybe the elites didn't want a healthy africa maybe that wasn't part of the plan. easier to keep some peoples on earth down, can't have an empowered world to struggle to maintain dominance against.
but probably now its too late
Parker Jones
if you want to help the blacks in africa or anywhere else then enlighten them on condoms, birth control pills, abortion and vasectomies.
Levi Rivera
>The western economy is based on high-skill and service, and it's a lot harder to write an all-encompassing algorithm for these skill sets.
Youre mistaken.
Look up the Differentiable Neural Computer by Google Deepmind or Dynamic Memory Networks by Metamind.
Im currently doing my PhD in Neuroinformatics and there definitely are "all-encompassing algorithms" currently being researched.
Isaac Scott
>How will we re-skill these people? We don't. 30 years and >90% of engineers, mechanics, programmers etc. will be unemployed too. There is not a single magic component in the human body that is required for working. Nobody will be safe from automation.
>Unfortunately none of our leaders are prepared for this great challenge Oh, I think they are. They just don't want to tell you the plan because we workers are not involved in their plans. What did the Arab muslims do to their slaves when they slaves were economically useless to them? Don't imagine for a second that we are anything more than cattle to the true kings of this Earth.
Juan Perry
Im part of a union so not my concern, friendo.
Adam Gomez
indeed but even more effective would be to get them jobs. because contrary to what seems sensible, people breed less during good times, thats fact. even blacks.
but we can't. and everytime some big corporation tries, the levels of violence is just too high, the poliical situations in most african countries too volatile.
Christopher Sanders
or small corporation or business. there's just no easy way to set up a factory or jobs in shit holes when violence is a problem and the government in these countries a liability
William Cook
If they make a bot to jerk me off it's all over anons.
Christopher Powell
The jobs that are safe now will be safe in the future. You’ll just see a bunch of truck drivers become starbucks baristas.
Carson Jackson
Not going to happen anytime soon. If anything transition will happen slowly. For example, let's say there is a breakthrough in finding an easy renewable fuel for cars today. It would still take 20-30 years to change infrastructure in the United States.
Justin Rivera
*300 years
Ethan Jenkins
Are you familiar with what the mathematician I.J. Good called an "intelligence explosion"? It's when AI becomes advanced enough to redesign and improve its own intelligence aptitude.
The real consideration goes deeper than vocation and productivity. It's quite possible that AI will come to dominate nearly every white and blue collar pursuit; including creative ones.
The question you need to ask yourself is this: Can AI live my life for me?
I think what you'll see, as this technology replaces more and more people, is that the intuitive gradually check out of the society. People will choose to decentralize and develop parallel societies that are less dependent on a non-human mainline one.
Intelligent people with healthy perspective aren't going to become universal min. wage dependents. The cost-benefit curve of living in society will have surpassed its limit, and there will be a number of people that wish to raise families in semi-autonomous, energy independent, agrarian communities. People will indeed want to retain certain technologies (like electricity and communication), and they will want energy independence for it (individuals will not be drilling oil rigs, obviously). The government already is beginning to more heavily regulate free/renewable energy, so this trend may continue... But there will be pushback. A monetarily "poor" person in an energy independent community with some land will always be wealthier than a vast swath of people with "unmarketable skills" living on a stipend.
Arguably, advanced robotics will prove more difficult than AI, and more expensive to manufacture and maintain, so don't expect an anthropomorphic, bipedal AI. Some will try to integrate it with their organic brains, however.
Jaxson Campbell
Delusional. Have you not noticed how fast technological progress has been?
Automation doesn't care how hard or easy it is for a human to learn a trade or profession. Some ''low-level jobs'' will be surprisingly hard for robots, while respected ''high-skill jobs'' will be easier. I firmly believe that lawyers and doctors will be unemployed before many manufacturing jobs.
Justin Scott
Unions won't save you
Logan Moore
Thats wrong.
As AutoML has shown, AI-Algorithms have the ability to write code thats much more efficient and better tested than code written by a software engineer.
Medical Doctors will have to do less diagnosing because an ML-Algorithm can identify a disease much more precisely.
Lawyers will lose their job most likely as well, because an AI will be able to understand the law.
The AI revolution will most likely effect high-skilled jobs such as computer scientists, lawyers, judges, medical doctors the most.
Thomas Bennett
Robots cannot do construction, or most factory jobs. In my area we have a shortage of workers and have had one since before the recession.
Thomas Perry
Something this man predicted 200 years ago .
Ryan Carter
UBI
Andrew Cox
Antinatalism is a self-defeating ideology. All you are doing by not reproducing is handing the world to more retarded people who will reproduce, and at the end of the day you aren't preventing overpopulation by not passing on your genes.
Isaac Reed
>it's always 5-10 years away
Jayden Hill
There will be less demand for construction workers now that we can 3D print houses.
And of course robots can do factory jobs LMAO. What is the auto industry? Have you seen a Tesla factory? Factory jobs are dead, old man. Trump can't bring them back.
Dominic Sanders
Yeah. That's why we still have people operating elevators don't we
Bentley Anderson
It takes time for the tech to go mainstream. A good is self-driving technology, the tech literally exists and is ready but it hasn't gone mainstream.
You have to be delusional to not see the changes that are occuring in front of you.
If you think it's far off, you're wrong. And reality is going to be a tough pill for you to swallow.
Xavier Reed
Lol commies deserve the rope. Fuck Marx and fuck you.
Jackson Green
Don't be that confident. You need to rethink how construction can be made. Most robot construction machines will not be performing the exact same complex motions as a construction worker, but they will accomplish the same things. A construction site that is not made for human workers, will cut many of the obstacles that a robot construction machine would face (assorted objects in the way everywhere etc.).
Marx was correct that automation would make human work obsolete. But because the proletariat failed in revolution, the means of production will not be in the hands of the proletariat. It's too late for a revolution too, so what will be the fate of the proletariat?
They will either form piles of bodies or become one with the transhumanist machine that the elites will create. I see no alternative.
Jayden Reyes
Yeah, it's a truly tough pill to swallow that this is fucking real and should be taken seriously. Most people are blissfully ignorant and their own inability to think creatively blinds them. ''There's no way a machine could ever do X'' - that's what everyone thinks. This is the reason the masses will never see it coming before they will be unemployed, and then it's way too fucking late for back-up plans.
Nolan Jenkins
yeaaaaah u sure know a lot bout being a real men. but hes the degenerate?!
Joshua Lewis
It's bigger than the nuclear bomb. The nuke (as the culmination of what's done with nuclear technology in the hands of industry) foreshadowed our doom in many ways.
John Williams
A machine couldn't do my job. I work on the London Underground as a janitor. There is NO WAY a machine could navigate the busy platforms and identify messes that need to be cleaned vs generic dust and bird shit. Sure I can see a few finance people losing out due to AI but this job is safe.
Jacob Adams
thats not even the poin of what he has said you fucking idiot!
Luke Lopez
>they laughed when he said he wanted to keep his low paying job, now this london underground janitor is one of the richest men in the world.
Cameron Nelson
Trades will hapen if they're cheap enough. Only money counts in this world.
Samuel Adams
which is why your customers need jobs
Bentley Hughes
>5-10 Not even close. I honestly wish you were right, but youre not. 25 years away would be an optimistic estimate. It's gonna be 30-50 years at least realistically. Robotics are not at the level you think they are. They will take more factory jobs in 10 years but they're not gonna replace fast food, retail, truck driving, postal service, elections, plumbers for another 50 years.
Ian Adams
5000? If you ask me it will only take another 100-200 years for robots to be superior and in abundance to us in most laboring tasks.
Nolan Reed
Hahahahahahahahahaha
Wyatt Price
>If a genocide or mass deportation was occurring right now in some random African shithole every single country would call for international political action immediately.
What about Rwanda? Did anything change since 1994?
Caleb Howard
Come to germany. Our gibs are good. We won't let you die. Don't worry and apply for citizenship today.