If Hitler did nothing wrong, why did he lose the war?

>if Hitler did nothing wrong, why did he lose the war?
How do you respond to this?

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The man really did alot of military mistakes. He was born to rule, not to fight.

His spirit will rise from the grave and the world will know he was right.

historians say he was a shit leader

Simply either doing the wrong or right thing has nothing to do with winning or losing wars.

Overexpansion.

Which historians?

The only thing he did wrong was have Ernst Rohm killed before total victory.

>take over a country in poverty and turn it into a industrial and military powerhouse
>shit leader
jude detected

Whatever you say, rabbi.

>((((historians))))

Or maybe it was because he was fighting the whole world by himself with Italy and Japan who were more of a liability than useful

Hitler's heart was in the right, but he made plenty of mistakes.

Makes no sense.

KYS shill

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He let the jews win so that we can fight them in WWIII when they're at their full power. Then they'll never hurt anyone again.

>one of the most universally adored leaders in world history
>drove around with the top down on his Mercedes because he knew the people loved him and would never hurt him
>turned Germany around from economic collapse and degenerate cesspool to the industrial powerhouse of Europe in under a decade
>created autobahns
>literally invented Volkswagen (which they don't want you to know)

>shit leader

Jewish brainwashing never ceases to amaze me.

>How do you respond to this?
He fought the world and held out against the jew for years, what he did wrong was not actually gassing them

>>if Hitler did nothing wrong, why did he lose the war?
>How do you respond to this?

Like usually, I'll just quote Jean-Luc Picard

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sabotage..

>The economy was already reviving when the Nazis took power
>Germany was the industrial heart of Europe and had been the largest economy in Europe since its formation in 1861
>"military powerhouse"
Military powerhouse that couldn't even beat unarmed soviet meat-grinder tactics.

He was a Socialist
Bad tactician
Worse loser

I only like that Hitler was a die hard Nationalist. If he just made Germany great again we wouldn't have this globalist fear today. But he started a war that was the last straw for many that held their beliefs that nationalism is good, Balkans were the only one left with nationalism but after 90's even that died.

If you are a Nationalist starting a war, you must win! That is how Americans have their strong sence of nationality, the only problem with that is that their nation is fucking degenerate

>The economy was already reviving when the Nazis took power
Just like how Trump's economic successes are actually because of Obama right?

Imagine actually thinking this.

Germany is a truly awful strategic location.

leave England in your back- you are fooled.

Hitler had little to do with either the successes or the failures of the German Army, pretending otherwise was always a cute way of pretending there was no Nazi Party or German High Command to stop him. Truth is, if the High Command really felt like Hitler was jeopardizing their position, they would've killed him. They almost did, too - they planned to murder him after the Allies rebuffed him over Czechoslovakia. That didn't happen, so they went, "hey, this guy just doesn't stop winning!" and went along with him.

Actually, the few times Hitler attempted to exercise his power over the military in defiance of the generals are usually remembered as disasters. Stalingrad. The Dunkirk Operation. The Battle of France, AKA the Manstein plan, was adopted over the explicit howling and Protest of the High Command.

Hitler was a mover and shaker, obviously, as dictator of Germany. But his power only went as far as the military leaders who stood to benefit from his leadership allowed it. If he had fucked up too much before the war, he would've been shot.

During first months of the offensive the germans had already caused 200% casualties(kia, wounded and prisoners) on soviets than what total soviet strength had been on german facing border

Maybe if Italy had had better leadership and stalin shot one general too many things cold've been different

Why are you bringing up the Manstein plan, it was rather successful as opposed to Stalingrad or Dunkirk? Am I misunderstanding something?

He Napoleon'd with Russia. Didn't let his generals do the fighting.

> Great Leader
> Horrible General

I could go over all mistakes Hitler made in World War Two. If ya want /pol

He allowed scientists to flee

Hitler did do something wrong; started a war with a scope that was too big, against enemies too numerous and powerful, with allies that were too separated (ideologically and geographically). The axis lacked the grand strategy planning that the allies did. Additionally, although the german army was really good operationally and tactically, on the strategic and grand strategic level is where they failed.

The cracking of the Enigma code by Alan Turing played a major role

There's not a single leader that would've won in his position. He was simply outnumbered, much thanks to you anglos.

incompetence

The nips fucked his plan. They were to declare war, and have a shit fight in Pearl Harbor, just to get us going. He felt we would join him. Those retarted nips ruined it all. We were almost kike free.

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Prove he died in that bunker.

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This is what you get when you team up with commies and then attack together country which hate soviets

It's fair to say that Hitler's leadership skills have been mythologized and exaggerated by many true believers, but to focus on a few mistakes he made and discard his achievements also fails to represent the quality of leader he really was. He more often did incredibly well given the circumstances he was dealt with. Just think for a moment about the territory (and the circumstances) that Germany began with in 1933 and what they actually ended up conquering until the unbearable weight of almost the entire worlds combined armed forces inevitably crushed them.

No leader who could get as far as he did in his campaign can seriously be called a shit military leader, it's like calling Napoleon a shit military leader, it just doesn't fucking make sense. Their military defeat was basically inevitable from the day the war started but by God, uncle Adolf gave the jew world order a good run for its money. For a moment, it looked like a country of about 85 million could realistically take on the entire fucking world. Shit leaders can't even dream of coming close to achieving that.

Is there any proof that he didnt die in the bunker?

t. Has never played a single strategy game

Try starting a TW campaign right now, anyone, then declare war on every single faction in the game except 1-2. Gl and Hf. Not saying he declared, but the situation ends up the same.

The soviets claimed to have excavated bone fragments of Hitler's. Obviously you can't really trust their word on that but really, I don't see how Hitler could have escaped from the bunker. If there was no escape, I can imagine him taking his own life and ordering his body burned in that moment as a last act of spite against the communist mob that would have wanted to rape him with a bayonet and parade his body around Berlin.

He probably didn't think of it as suicide, the soviets were a mere 200 meters away. He saw his death as an utter inevitability at that point, so he chose to go out with some dignity rather than having his corpse taken on tour around the world and presented as a trophy. It seems like quite a rational decision to me. If he did manage to escape to Argentina or somewhere else, I struggle to believe he would be content to remain silent and live in secrecy for the rest of his life.

No body. Nothing, not even one bone fragment. He died an old man in South America.

It was the jews

Was he actually there? Or was he on a u boat heading to South America?

>what they actually ended up conquering until the unbearable weight of almost the entire worlds combined armed forces inevitably crushed them.
Oh yeah, do you mean how they defeated France and a bunch of much smaller states, none of them prepared for total war, with the help of their allies Italy, Slovakia, Hungary, Bulgaria, and Romania?

>No leader who could get as far as he did in his campaign can seriously be called a shit military leader
>Their military defeat was basically inevitable from the day the war started

pick one faggot

the past is told by those who win

So you find it completely within Hitler's character to flee Germany? To run away and remain silent and hidden as some kind of irrelevant hermit for the rest of his days? That doesn't sound like Hitler at all. Hitler would have wanted to die in Germany, and that's where he chose to die.

>help from Italy
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

I second this

And why exactly South America?

>>if Hitler did nothing wrong, why did he lose the war?
>How do you respond to this?
Do you think you live in a fairy tale or something?
The good guys lose sometimes. Especially when the bad guys get the United States of Goyim to join the massive Soviet Union to fight a country the size of Nebraska.

You cant win the war as underdog.

>intent
>results

>nothing wrong
>invaded Russia

Hitler lost because he invaded Russia in the fucking winter, Operation Barbarossa
Then he doubled down with Operation Typhoon

8/10ths of the Wehrmacht died fighting the Soviets. The notion that the US beat Germany is a meme. The Germans used to refer to combat on the western front as "maneuvers with weapons"

(((Historians)))

Italy HAD to go into Italy. Metaxas was supplying us. Furthernore, the Mediterranean was fairly vital to us. With Japan, America forced them into it with sanctions. In any event,the USA was helping us too.

Heil Hitler! Heil Mussolini! Hail Hirahito!

FBI docs created shortly after the war and released under FOIA alleged that he escaped to Argentina with Eva. Many Nazis fled to South America, but there is no conclusive proof as to what Hitler's fate was

He could be running the Nazi UFO base in Antarctica right now for all we know

What was it - 19 days before Russia was due to invade?
Or you think he should have stayed put and hoped that Stalin would be gentle?

and Romanina, Bulgaria, Hungary, Slovakia and all the conscripts from the invaded territories and you fought against Russia, US and the UK in the end. But yeah it's totally the world's fault, it's not like you niggers convinced yourselves that you were the master race and then got stomped for the same reasons you got stomped in WW1 because the bigger countries didn't have to endure your fucking autism

He was Führer. He flat out denied all pleas for Him to escape. He died with Germany

>Oh yeah, do you mean how they defeated France
You say that like it's nothing. France was on par with the UK in terms of global power ranking, UK and France were still powerful colonial empires then. What happened to them? Utterly cucked. France was steamrolled and the UK was made to look like a midget being held at arms length swinging and missing while Germany kicked the shit into all of eastern Europe and the USSR at the same time.

That's defeating one global power, rendering another totally impotent and then absolutely tearing into another before it took the fourth major global power (USA) to finally start pushing them back and defeat them, and that's not to mention the other nations Hitler plowed through in a couple of months. Once again, it's like calling Napoleon, Caesar or Alexander a bad military leader. Not making any sense.

>master race
Not once used in any Axis document or speech. In fact, if you read into it, you would find deference to other races.

I hope you like the world your forefathers made.

>appeal to reason and intellect
B-but muh ebil Nazis

ok let's argue semantics nigger

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this don't real but all of jewish plans real

the UK didn't have a powerful land army, they had a navy

the French were retarded and had put too much faith into the maginot line

>missing while Germany kicked the shit into all of eastern Europe and the USSR at the same time.
you mean eastern european farmlands and then autistically invaded the USSR until they pushed back and raped Germany

read these TWO LINE YOU DUMB NIGGER

>No leader who could get as far as he did in his campaign can seriously be called a shit military leader
>Their military defeat was basically inevitable from the day the war started

It's like you calling yourself an academic because you went to highschool even though you knew you're gonna fail

There's no real contradiction in those two lines there because Hitler wasn't the first to declare war.

>Hey guys, do you remember how you let me take Czechoslovakia and Austria, I'm taking Poland now
>Fuck off Hitler no more, this will mean war
>Invades Poland
>THE JEWS DECLARED WAR ON US DO YOU WANT TOTAL WAR!?!?!?!?
>FUCKING ALLIED WAR CRIMINALS BOMBING OUR CITIES, RAPING OUR CHURCHES, AND BURNING OUR WOMEN
>THE WHOLE WORLD TURNED ON US JUST LIKE IN WW1 WHERE WE HAD THE SAME PLAN OF TAKING EASTERN EUROPE AND MAKING GERMAN AUTISM MORE POWERFUL, ABER DIE JUDEEEEEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>what is weimar germany

>Military powerhouse that couldn't even beat unarmed soviet meat-grinder tactics.
Because they weren't unarmed?

>Hitler wasn't the first to declare war
ohhhh
>Britain: hey Hitler if you attack Poland we will have to declare war on you
>Hitler: ok
>*does false flag operation and invades Poland*
>Britain: hey we told you not to invade Poland that's it we at war now
>Hitler: idc
>*tries to invade Britain*
>*fails*
>*invades SU*
>*kills himself*
epic leader

>Austria
Oh the horror, ohh good God the horror, if there's one thing that haunts me about Hitler's Reich, it's that savage invasion of Austria...

He was backstabbed by the jews

What are you even saying you fucking mongoloid?

Austria wanted to reunify with Germany after WW1 but they were told to fuck off because Austria by itself was incompetent. It was against the fucking treaty of Versailles that Germany and Austria unify, that alone should've been enough to exterminate every single German. But nothing happened because there were no fucking Jews people let Hitler do it to avoid a war.

The same shit happened with Czechoslvakia which the Germans wanted for their autistic Germans and their industry. What happened? The Jews starte... oh wait no, the UK, France, US, and Germany had a little chat and said go for it Dolfi!

And when Germany was told no for Poland, then suddenly it's the Jews

Ww1and ww2 were political distractions so that liberalism could rise to power. The next world war will destroy liberalism and restore the American republic

>shit leader
>drove around without protection in parades
>never shot
>presidents always have glass shields and armored cars because they are afraid of being shot

Of course

activates the almonds, doesn't it?

>does false flag
Idiot. You really believe that old garbage? Hitler never referred to the gleiwitz incident, he never used it as a justification for war, and that incident, if you insist was a false flag, was only one of hundreds of incidents on the border between Germany and Poland at the time. BOTH nations were chomping at the bit to fucking fight each-other over these territorial disputes, that's what you don't want to admit. Poland is as much responsible for starting the war on that front and Britain has always loved a good old fucking war, they were absolutely itching for another chance to fight Germany too so they encouraged Poland. Britain's true intentions became abundantly clear after they completely abandoned Poland to the soviets. They never gave a shit about Poland, they just wanted an opportunity to start another fucking war with Germany.

>The economy was already reviving when the Nazis took power
Germany's economy at the time was reliant on the America the the great depression happened, so no.

>do you really believe historical facts and not stormfag lies?!

Hitler as actually sick with the flu when his generals made some fatal errors in Russia. I guess his only flaw was being human.

People like to pin their in Russia loss on a lack of winter gear, but that is silly revisionism meant to shame the “master race” narrative. “Look, these guys are so dumb, they didn’t give their men coats! In Russia! In Winter!! lolololoooo”

Kikes are the worst people on Earth.

Fuck off kike, don’t you have a pogrom to attend?

Hitler was the chance of Europe. Even if he was a nationalist, he proved to be extremely pragmatic and well intended. The Allies have portrayed him as someone who wanted a global world war to create some kind of empire. It was not the case and those type of discussion only started once Hitler found himself occupying the whole continent.

In 1935 he offered Poland and France a generous agreement which would have make WW2 impossible. France refused, opting for an alliance with the Bolsheviks.

The sad part being that, after the end of this madness in 1945, Europeans started to try to build what Hitler was willing to do : a european political system on friendly terms.

Hitler went full savage after Poles, French, Brits and Americans did all they could to start a war. The fact is all this war was based on a simple plan : break Germany at all costs, Hitler or no Hitler.

>Hitler went full savage after Poles, French, Brits and Americans did all they could to start a war. The fact is all this war was based on a simple plan : break Germany at all costs, Hitler or no Hitler.
Well said nippon.

His only mistake was expecting anglos to be rational. Could have taken out Britain but he wanted European dominance over the world that included an intact and independent British empire. The people running Britain worked against their own interests. Churchill is a traitor to Britain and Europe.

They had to lose the war.

Hitler's defeat was intentional and planned so that the world would be plunged into Zionist controlled dystopia.

It was difficult convincing people then how the world would end up if the Jews won so Hitler knew he had to let them win, and force the world to see he was absolutely, irrevocably, unquestionably right.

So Germany "lost" the war, and now we have modern world full of vice, degeneracy, and ruin. The result of the Protocols.

However, Germans didn't lose. They won the war back in 1940. Then they went to shadowy place from where they controlled everything.

Their plan is to destroy the world through Jews, and then come as saviours and rebuilders, ushering in the new Golden Age.

Hail Kalki - Heil Hitler.

However, don't think for one second this means the Germans ordered Jews to be bad.

Jews were always a race of conniving serpentine devils.

Destiny of the Jews was sealed back in the 1930s. Hitler just gave them reins for a short while.

We're living through apocryphal version of the Revelations. Analogies between Jesus and Hitler are astounding.