>Americans claim to be Italian, never been to Italy, don't speak a word of Italian >Americans claim to be German, never been to Germany, don't speak a word of German >Americans claim to be Dutch, never been to the Netherlands, don't speak a word of Dutch >Americans claim to be Polish, never been to Poland, don't speak a word of Polish >Americans claim to be Hungarian, never been to Hungary, don't speak a word of Hungarian
The mutt meme is dumb because most white Americans aren't mixed, but how is this meme untrue?
Benjamin Wilson
>tfw 1/2 german >tfw i speak german >tfw my brother speaks german >tfw my brother has been to germany
Ryan Jones
idk why talking about where your relatives are from makes you faggots sperg out so hard
Jack Gutierrez
AMERican are dumb
Nolan Gomez
>Race is the same thing as nationality This meme must die
Joshua Rodriguez
My ancestors were English, I speak English. Now go fuck yourself.
Grayson Jackson
>but how is this meme untrue? because by that logic an african born in any of those countries that speaks their language would be one of them
Elijah Wright
Cool?
No one is "sperging", I'm just pointing out that Americans do this and we're right to be mocked for it.
No one said race and nationality were the same thing. I was pointing out that white Americans always claim their ethnic heritage as their primary identity when they've never left this country and can't speak the language of whatever they're claiming and know nothing of the culture.
Joseph Rodriguez
"There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all … The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic … There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else." - Teddy Roosevelt, 1915
Connor Reyes
I consider myself an American first over all. Who cares about Europe. I have more in common with native americans, we were both born and raised in these lands.
Hudson Torres
If an African were born in Romania and spoke Romanian and said they felt Romanian, that's perfectly normal.
Now, if that African had parents or grandparents from Nigeria and they claimed to be Nigerian even though they can't speak Yoruba or Igbo, have never been to Nigeria, and are, full all intents and purposes, Romanian, it would be fucking stupid for them to claim to be Nigerian or feel Nigerian.
Elijah Taylor
Q predicted this
Ian Gray
That guy was a huge fag and you can both fuck off.
Matthew Wood
You confuse the two in your post. By being German, one can either mean he is from Germany or of German descent. You don't need to be from German to be a member of the race. Nor do you need to be a true aryan to be German in the sense of nationality
Carson Allen
You don't have to spoke a word of a country for being racially from this country. Neither have been in that country.
Xavier Mitchell
>mfw I claim to be Spaniard, and I CAN actually speak Spanish.
K pachanga, buey.
Leo Cooper
>If an African were born in Romania and spoke Romanian and said they felt Romanian, that's perfectly normal.
Are you crazy?
Jeremiah Roberts
No it wouldn't. They wouldn't be Romanian by blood
Logan Butler
>Inadvertently reveals self as shill TR was more of a fucking badass than you'll ever be Shlomo.
Would you have dared to storm San Juan hill wit a second-rate rifle accompanied by half-trained militiamen?
Colton Roberts
Why is that crazy? There are plenty of Africans and Arabs, born and raised in France, who consider themselves to be Frenchmen.
Aiden Perry
I'm not confusing anything. White Americans very often do claim to be a certain ethnicity when they have nothing to do with said ethnicity.
Yes, your ancestors came here from Germany 500 years ago. Yeah, I guess you're "technically" German because you have German ancestry. But shouldn't you be calling yourself an "American" by now?
Brandon Butler
He was a rich queer and all of his dashing and daring was set up by the press as publicity stunts. The San Juan charge was also made up and contemporary soldiers say he never led a charge or did anything more than suck dick in an officers tent well behind the lines.
David Peterson
If you put 50 millions Africans in Romania, it's not Romania anymore but another country.
Jackson Green
I'm not talking about blood. In fact, I'm talking about the exact OPPOSITE of blood. Yeah, you may have Portuguese blood, but if you've never been to Portugal, know nothing of Portuguese customs or traditions, and don't speak Portuguese, why do you go around telling everyone you're Portuguese? Just say you're American.
Leo Wright
I would consider myself a full-blooded American, but I would be fighting for groups of people in this country that I despise.
Wyatt Price
until the americans join the commonwealth and officially recognise their history and ties to britain, they're far more exposed and vulnerable to subversion. when your nation is founded around a fucking piece of paper, it's destined to fail.
Jaxson Torres
What does that have to do with anything? I was pointing out that if a person of African stock was born and raised in Romania, spoke Romanian and only Romanian, lived and worked and was educated in Romania and only Romania and told me that they felt Romanian and were Romanian, that would be perfectly acceptable.
Now, if they went out of their way to try and tell me that their ancestors were from Somalia and that they were Somali despite never going to Somalia and knowing nothing of Somalia and not speaking Somalia, I would say "Yeah, you're of Somali descent, but you've spent your entire life in Romania. You're Romanian."
Sebastian Long
>Beta soyboy cucking Don't project your failures and insecurities onto the great men of history. It's unbecoming.
Tyler Reyes
I am an Italian American(1st generation, mother came over in 1953). I don't speak fluent but have been to my family's village three times and actually owned the home there that my Great Grandmother was born in. Thank God I sold that shit before they started importing refugees
Landon Barnes
Sure but only by sense of nationality.
Tyler Garcia
>1/2 German topkek the 56% meme was an overestimation. They're only 50% white now
Gabriel Harris
If you want real American heroes look at Johnny Appleseed, Davy Crockett, Paul Bunyan or Andrew Jackson. Teddy was a fairy
James Turner
You said that being of a country = being of a culture. The question is where this culture come from?
Ryan Roberts
>1/2 german
Angel White
159265716 >frican Americans
Jason Davis
>nationalities are now ethnicities.
Thomas Allen
I said that if you were born and raised in America, only speak English, and have never been to the country of your ancestors, why are you claiming to be anything other than American?
I'm of Macedonian descent and I never tell anyone "I'm Macedonian", I just say "I'm American", the only time the issue comes up is when someone asks what kind of name I have. Then I tell them it's Macedonian and they ask me what that is.
Nathan Gutierrez
Most people around where i live have grand or great grandparents still in europe and go see them or they come see them on a regualr basis, just a mostly white suburb thing?
Juan Morgan
Dumbfuck, you can be ethnically Portuguese/Spanish/Italian/Greek/Hungarian, but if you were born and raised in America, only speak English, and have never been to the country of your ancestors and know nothing but America, aren't you an idiot for claiming to be Portuguese/Spanish/Italian/Greek/whatever?
You're an American with whatever heritage, that's all.
Jack Campbell
Mostly because they see American as not tying to any ethnic backround or any racial backround since America is a rotting corpse of a "melting pot"
my 2 cents.
Brody Gutierrez
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Ethan Diaz
>MUH BASED ROOSEVELT
Are you literally an 11-year-old American schoolboy?
Neck yourself
Matthew Bell
I'm American, but my ancestors came from Yugoslavia. How is that hard to understand?
Dylan Foster
Only free white men of good character can be American.
You being a Turkish rapebaby of a serf negates that. Sorry.
Bentley Peterson
>be american descended from midwestern german farmers >during ww1 ancestors are forced to stop speaking german and drop old customs >find bibles and prayer books from great grandparents years after they had passed, all in german >books are the only remains of ancestral culture, everything else replaced with american consumerism thanks america
Logan Jones
So if a subsaharan African couple moved to china, had a son, and that son spent his whole life in China, speaking Chinese, and observing Chinese customs, he's Chinese? You're a Fucking retard, i thought you should know.
Ryan Roberts
>Hurr durr u Americunt? Fuck off, Ahmed.
Carter Flores
Only children try to galvanize an autistic landwhale with asthma
Colton Roberts
To truly be considered English, you must fluently speak Mid English, Early Middle English, Old English, and all previous forms of the language. Good day.
Benjamin Moore
But really, what is a burger like you doing in bongland?
Blake Bell
Many such cases. Sad!
Jackson Diaz
Be that as it may, he isn't wrong; there's no use holding on to hyphenisms when those cultures are lost on us. We're just American and should identify as such, doesn't make us any more less European to do so
Easton Diaz
>How is that hard to understand?
Good God, you people are fucking thick.
I'm from the former Yugoslavia, too. But I don't go around claiming to be Macedonian, I just say I'm American. I'll give you an example of what I'm talking about: I used to work with a woman, typical American woman, only speaks English, never been outside of the US, but she is of Italian descent. She would constantly say things like "Us Italians, we age well, don't we?", "You know us Italians, we're loud!", "I'm Italian, I can't help it!", "I'm Italian, you know we eat a lot", this is the shit I'm talking about. This is what Sup Forums mocks us for. Everyone around the office wanted to scream "SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU'RE NOT FUCKING ITALIAN"
Yeah, she has Italian ancestry, but she was born and raised here, doesn't speak Italian, and irritated the shit out of everyone by going on and on about being Italian.
I was born in Macedonia, I speak Macedonian, I have never one told anyone I'm anything other than American. The only time I've ever said I'm Macedonian is when someone asks what kind of name I have.
Kevin Parker
The only one to blame for that is your ancestors. If they wanted to remain German they shouldn't have came here. My great grandfather came from Germany before ww1 and taught himself English and assimilated into the American Anglo culture.
Stop being such a cringey fucking faggot dude
Connor Watson
When these claims are made in an american context it is in reference to ethnicity. If an an American says "I'm German" its in reference to his ancestors being German, there are no 'Germans' in America. This is semantic bullshit
Nathan Moore
Yes, he's Chinese. By ethnicity? No. By culture and customs and language? Yes.
Colton Nelson
Italian people politely ask that you kill her with fire
Carson Rogers
Lolwut? Pic related, Mohammed.
I could ask what a Kebab like you is doing in the Land of the Vikings.
Hunter Allen
Listen here you turbo nigger, where the fuck do you get off on dictating who's part of what tribe?
Only Americans believe in magic dirt
Luke Hughes
nah suck my cock yid
Thomas Richardson
>The only time I've ever said I'm Macedonian is when someone asks what kind of name I have. I know the feel, my surname's Slovene
Nathan Sanders
I'm an American.
White American is redundant
Dominic Nguyen
DELET
William Bennett
Bruh, most white americans are mixed german and english. That is literally the definition of american ethnicity.
Gabriel Scott
Besides, I've visited all of the lands of my ancestors
Camden Walker
What confused you? The word galvanize? If you only speak one fucking language, I at least expect you to be competent at it.
Just speak Urdu if it makes you more comfortable, Mahnoor
Carson Howard
das ist falsch..... ich bin deutsch... arschloch
Ryan Green
>German
Ain't nothing German about you cancerous sacks of shit
Julian Morris
Or Irish/Scots-Irish
Michael Murphy
/thread
Brayden Ramirez
If Italians age well, then an Italian couple moving to America, and having a child, does not magically negate the rate at which the child will age. The child is Italian by blood, and thus subject to the quirks unique to Italian DNA, whether they be likelihood of having certain diseases, likelihood of liking spicy foods, and what have you. As you've been told multiple times, you're confusing nationality and genetics. I'm beginning to think it's on purpose.
Having said that, I have met gutter trash, trailer park dwellers who claim their family back in Ireland owns a castle. This is completely different.
Luke Rogers
So people who moved here at various points from England and Germany... weren't English or German? That user was saying Americans are their own ethnic group, calm down with the autism
Logan Williams
>What confused you> The word salad, Ali, the word salad. I wouldn't expect a shitskin to be able to speak a human language, though, so don't worry.
Aaron Martinez
>"Us Italians, we age well, don't we?", "You know us Italians, we're loud!", "I'm Italian, I can't help it!", "I'm Italian, you know we eat a lot" Guineas haven't fully assimilated yet, give it 20 years and this shit will be dead
Juan Roberts
No one in China will care how well he speaks Mandarin, or how well he bows, or how much he loves Mao, he will never be Chinese.
Julian Rodriguez
wir sind verwandte geister....deutsch amerikaner sind deutsch.... unless your not and your a coal burning leftist faggot antifa whore
Jack Cook
im 1/16th german and have been to germany
am i german or do i have to apply for refugee status like mohammed?
Daniel Robinson
So what's an american? Does that include every shitskin who hopped over here or on a diversity visa? It means nothing and you can't build a nation based on multiculturalism.
Camden Turner
>That use of commas
I was truly right about you being a child. Go to bed, tomorrow's a school day
Matthew Hughes
>T. Muhammad living in Denmark for gibs
Kevin Davis
>Various points from Germany and England
You don't even have a clue about your own immigration history and I'm supposed to take you seriously.
Nathan Edwards
Yes, he is an American retard. They actually believe this crap because they don't know any better in this mongrel multiracial corporate empire.
Mason Lopez
fugee stats now!!!! sie sind ungefahr so deutsch wie ihre flagge
Jason White
My ancestor was an Italian mercenary & was exiled from Italy, since I have documents of him & my family, the Italian government will recognize me as a full citizen if I were to apply for citizenship right now.
Also, I speak Italian. Nice try, mutt.
Jackson Fisher
The T is supposed to be lowercase, redditor
Josiah Taylor
You simultaneously reject identity from american's "magic dirt" and their identity from european ethnicity. Either there are semantic misunderstandings or what you believe is contradictory .
Wyatt Turner
>I'm beginning to think it's on purpose.
No, you're all just pretending not to know what I'm talking about. If a person was born and raised in America, was culturally American, only speaks English, has never ventured outside of America and prattled on endlessly about how Italian they were despite knowing nothing of Italy or speaking Italian, what would your reaction be?
"Yes, you are very Italian."
or
"Dude .... stop. You're American. You're making me fucking cringe with that shit."
I wonder what your reaction would be between the two.
He's of African descent, but knows nothing but China and only speaks Chinese. What does that make him? Yes, he's not ethnically Chinese, no one is disputing this, you fucking idiot. But he's culturally Chinese, it's the only country he knows.
Daniel Foster
I'm on your side with this one, friend. My (and Teddy's) argument is that Americans (who are by definition White) should call themselves Americans, not X-Americans. I don't call myself a Nordo-Celtic Englishman.
Adrian Cooper
This is what I said, but verbose.
Isaiah Martinez
will never stop seeing the humor in retarded white bitches claiming recent Indian ancestry
Thomas Ortiz
>Criticises correct use of commas Kebab LARPing as human confirmed.
Nathan Moore
I only object to your magic dirt when you try to apply it to the globe, brainlet
Kayden Long
You must be a mutt if you say that.
Elijah Martin
americans are the people closely related to physically and genetically to the people who wrote the constitution and fought in their most prominent wars as the majority racially
Jack Thompson
You can still have a connection to your heritage, not everyone has the time to learn a new language or travel to diffetent countries. Someone who is truly proud will take the time to do at least one of those things. I guess I'm saying that I half agree with you, but you sgould really calm down.
Nathan Reyes
I agree to some extent, but i don't believe that white america is not one nation to the same degree that England is.
Aiden Brown
>Americans (who are by definition White That has not been true since 1848.
Austin White
>Correct use of commas
Do you even comprehend what a linguistic can of worms you just opened there, Hamza? Probably not, being inbred and all.
Parker Moore
>Also, I speak Italian. Nice try, mutt.
I speak Macedonian, both of my parents are Macedonian, I don't fucking make people uncomfortable by talking endlessly about how Macedonian I am.
But I bet you tell people you're Italian within the first five seconds of meeting them.