Before you start a race-war, hear me out. While a white ethnostate sounds comforting, it is hardly the solution for traditional western society, or our race. There is an intermediate step; start acknowledging culture, rather than race.
Racial differences cause initial misunderstandings (over diets, diseases, skin care, intelligence...), but cultural differences can lead to mutual and long-lasting hatred.
Abandon your hatred of the non-whites, and start defending your culture from these invaders. Only then will we have a place in which it is acceptable to be white, a place where we can secure our future.
Also, I'm not suggesting all other cultures are bad. If two cultures are agreeable, then perhaps they can come here -- but our cultures and heritage are still separate
Luis Harris
I've always been about genuine meritocracy, senpai.
Dominic Thomas
>CULTURE is more important than RACE. You're already living in a country that works by that way of thinking, user.
Now leave us, who disagree with it, alone please. Thank you.
Dominic Jackson
Culture and Race is interlinked. I will never acknowledge a sub-saharan african as truly French, German or British.
Grayson Lopez
At this point in time, with this political climate, any push actually create an ethnostate would be crushed. I'm saying civnat is a step towards a future in which we can actually create a white ethostate.
Jackson Sanchez
Colonialism failed. White cultural hegemony cannot rape it's way into the american negro. For every Sowell there is just too much trash.
Robert Hill
Do libertardians get the rope along with the leftists? They are basically liberals who hate taxes.
Lucas Brown
nice try Chaim, but you already live in the country of which the sole purpose was to try and culture other races, when in reality, the melting pot fails and people consciously resegregate
Hudson Johnson
No, I live in a country that tries to blend third-world cultures together, and to eradicate single greatest, most influential culture in the last thousand years
Joshua Ward
so in other words third worlders have no culture and we have no business interacting with them or allowing them in our collective living space
Carson Powell
You are proud of mcdonalds, (((hollywood))) and nigger rap?
Luke Kelly
Race does influence culture. If a certain barbaric race is not compatible with us, then we can easily see that through their culture
Jason James
Why does your country try that though?
Nicholas Nguyen
Nigger rap aside, mcdonalds and hollywood represented revolutionary economic advances, before ((( they ))) took hold
Landon Green
And yet they were accepted, how come?
Jaxon Allen
because germany ran out of Zyklon-b
Leo King
see
Nathan Roberts
Are you referring to the racial hygiene policies in the third reich? How does that work with the anti-racist sentiment you're shilling for here?
Jayden Mitchell
Culture is just an expression of the people who create it. If you have shit people, (j.e. niggers) you wiill have a shit cultural product (i.e. nigger culture as a microcosm within America). Culture cannot be detached from people. Unless you truly in your heart of hearts believe that Japan would still be Japan if it were 100% black people larping as Japanese, you know this to be true.
The Overton window shifts further right every year.
Gabriel Morales
t. pic related
Christopher White
Race is very much a spiritual matter. Race means bloodline.
Brayden Cooper
I live among niggers. some of them try in life, and actually succeed. For many, their upbringing has given them horrible habits. We can thank the media for making the niggers celebrate their failure, rather than correcting their ways. We can save more of them than you think, especially if we address the ((( media ))) issue
Alexander Parker
right after leafs
Caleb Torres
>There is an intermediate step; start acknowledging culture, rather than race. Right, unfortunately though it brings us right back to race if you spend more than five minutes thinking about it because culture is inexorably tied to race.
Case in point: Even if we pretend that African Americans are just White Americans with a pallet swap, we still run into the problem that the culture of African Americans revolves around them being the descendants of former slaves and this culture cannot be removed from then as a race. This culture inevitably leads to resentment because what kind of self-respecting man would be able to live alongside the people that abused his ancestors without feeling a constant background level of grievance?
This is why the Balkans are such a shithole, because even though they all look like Turkish rape babies the conquered will ALWAYS resent those that sided with the conquerors. ALWAYS.
Owen Gutierrez
>Flag OP BTFO
Jaxson Bell
>hey gusy you should defend American culture! I would strangle the life out of you right now with my bare hands if that were in anyway possible.
Jordan Morgan
Racial hygiene policies, intending to weed out a perverse culture from our world. strong correlation with their race
Colton Anderson
see I'm saying culture is what we judge by. race is just one determining factor of culture
Isaiah Thompson
>intending to Secure a future for Germans. >strong correlation with their race Weird, I thought race isn't important?
Jackson Hall
cute strawman, but I never said american culture. American culture has degraded rapidly. In fact, american culture is what helped cause this
Kevin Allen
>American culture has degraded rapidly. In fact, american culture is what helped cause this How can this happen if culture is so important?
Daniel Gutierrez
Where did I say that, Austim? I said MORE important. because ultimately, culture creates and enforces lifelong habits and beliefs, possible but not necessarily completely intertwined with race
Aaron Sullivan
Why OP is wrong in one chart
Connor Parker
because what was once a productive culture, willing to include certain other cultures, was poisoned by the desire to incorporate every culture, until it was an empty husk.
Thomas Diaz
Literally kys.
Juan Hill
>because ultimately, culture creates and enforces lifelong habits and beliefs >lifelong >American culture has degraded rapidly. In fact, american culture is what helped cause this Which one is it?
Andrew Anderson
what's your point? that other cultures have their own interests in mind? Even people from second, or third generation immigrant families can be non-western still. The issue is, we are accepting people into our society who refuse to let go of their past ideologies
Lincoln Rivera
I wasn't referring to the life of the culture. cultures aren't alive, so I think that's pretty intuitive
Anthony Cruz
>Tell me why I'm wrong, faggots
The Culture in a country is largely a product of it's Ethnic/Racial and Religious Demographics. If you care as much about Culture as you claim, you will need to consider what kind of Demographic conditions are necessary to maintain the culture you desire.
If you agree that a majority of some kind is preferable, then you are an Ethno-Nationalist.
/thread
Liam Ward
maybe I misunderstood. are you implying that there doesn't exist a habit or belief created by a culture. I'm not saying absolutely everything granted by culture is permanent -- just that some things are
Wyatt Robinson
read
Nicholas James
The successful forming of a white ethnostate cannot be a Jew psyop because it is necessary for the Jew to attach itself to the host society in order to suck the lifeblood out of it. The white ethnostate would contain zero Jews.
Bentley Evans
>just that some things are Name 1
Joshua Rodriguez
lmfao
nice try rabbi
Andrew Allen
German culture imparts industriousness (granted by tendencies of german race).
It would be difficult for a non-german (cultural or racial) to match this, which means not every culture is compatible with german culture
Mason Edwards
If you can’t get it from the chart, there is simply no debating with you. Please don’t apply to the ethnostate
Xavier Reyes
>implying race and culture are not symbiotic and codependent
Absolutely civic, kill yourself
James Harris
> which means not every culture is compatible with german culture No, if this is a quality granted by the tendencies of the german race then that means that no culture is compatible with the german one.
I really don't understand why you insist that we should accept shitskins.
Luis Harris
and how do you propose creating an white ethnostate, without first creating a home for white (western) culture?
Julian Lewis
ah, I see where you are confused. I'm saying culture is the wrapper that we should judge by
Ryan Clark
if shitskins cannot assimilate with us, then they are not accepted
Jason Scott
Create a group that is explicitly only for white men and western culture will follow. Culture runs downstream from race/genetics.
Jordan Adams
if you think that is easier to accomplish as a first step, go outside and do it
Angel Price
>I'm saying culture is the wrapper that we should judge by If I shit into a Ferrero Roche wrapper, would you eat it? >if shitskins cannot assimilate with us They can't. You'll always be able to tell it's a shitskin. >then they are not accepted But they are - to the point where their racial qualities ruined your retarded inclusive culture, and yet you still shill for this nonsense.
A culture that can't maintain the people that created it is worthless and needs to die, and sooner or later it will.
Juan Young
Great post. Here's where civ nat breaks down: What do we do with, for example, Lil Wayne? What do we do with street thug blacks? They do not believe in American ideals, they do not exhibit American culture. What do we do with them?
Matthew Ross
You have my sword.
How do you propose we blend the best of each culture together while staying disparate? Most people are too fucking dumb, y'see, and that does not help those atop their own tribes to reason with other elites.
Isaiah Martinez
You are addressing two different challenges: 1.) Can a multi-racial society work, if civic nationalist propositions and principals are applied, and would it under the current conditions be the most effective way to solve US problems. Here it is noteworthy that it certainly seems to be the most easy way out, because people don't need to change their behavior and demands; most importantly they do not need to sacrifice anything or assert themselves in a highly unpopular idea that demands struggle, in the extreme case to the death. But 2.) is the reality we have to deal with: that through direct and ideologically driven policies the demographic and racial make up of the USA and Europe are being changed to achieve the goal of marginalizing white Europeans. In that case, falling on the civic nationalist solution, simply means giving ground to your enemies, that are either power driven like the democrats, or even driven by racial hatred like some black and Hispanic activists, but especially Jews in relation to white Europeans.
The question is not: Could civic nationalism work in the USA? It did to a large degree when America was around 80% white and the multi-racialism was indeed a heritage of slavery. (Although it completely leaves out the role the tribe plaid in it.)
The question is: should white Europeans tolerate an attack on their countries that is driven by ideological enemies, in some cases we are talking about communists here, by guilt driven ethnomasochism or Jewish supremacists fueled by feelings of revenge.
And while it may seem that the cases of the USA and the native European homelands are different, the enemies and ideologies in both of them are essentially the same.
What's more: you take as a given that white and European identitarians have hatred for non-whites. That is not the case. Especially in Europe with generation identity. What we do hate is cultural marxism and an attack on our people.
Jacob Diaz
We stand in awe before cathedrals that took centuries to build. The cultural mindset, love of freedom and the American constitution, that so many in the United States hold in reverence, also took centuries to create and passed down the generations.
But our distinct people, with their qualities that make them unique, that make them special on this earth, took thousands and thousands of years to form. Ideologies come and go, systems of government come and go, religions come and go, even whole cultures can come and go, but as long as the people survive, the essence of what makes us ourselves on a collective level, will live on.
That is why the current political movement of "multi-culturalism", rather ethnic annihilation and cultural marxism are so atrocious: the European peoples could survive the black plague, countless wars, including both World Wars, but if the ideologues of our time were to succeed, the entire existence of white Europeans would be in jeopardy. And some go as far as even declaring openly their desire to annihilate white Europeans as a race. THAT is actual hatred. THAT is destruction. And it should be the ideologue and radical political activist, who wants to reduce white Europeans in America and Europe to a minority, to even go as far as desiring their annihilation, that should have to justify himself. And not those who merely want to preserve their people in their ancestral homelands.
Logan Watson
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Bentley Allen
It’s not easy, in fact it’s almost impossible. There’s nothing you can do about it until economic collapse anyways
Gavin Lopez
Incorrect.
Oliver Young
Your picture is of nigger assimilating to white culture, faggit.
Tired of supporting parasites that never fit in and are quick to revert to their shit-ways
>Religious Demographics AKA culture >I'm this stupid, therefore /thread My sides
Luis Lee
>no arguments, only ad hominems Every time an ethnonationalist tries to """argue"""
Brandon Miller
not bad but Ethnic composition > Culture
Zachary Brown
What's more: I don't see a contradiction in believing in a Christian universal brotherhood of love or friendship in the future and being an ethno-nationalist. In fact it is the left that has no actual love and respect for cultures and peoples, but merely uses them as tools of power. "Free Tibet" was a great movement and it was big on the so called progressive left, I was a convicted supporter. Because I thought it as only understandable that the Tibetans wished to preserve their language, culture AND people against systematic ethnic warfare which the Chinese practiced. Now doing the same for Germans, French, Italians or white Americans makes me a hate monger? It just shows one thing: to the so called progressive left it was never about actual convictions and well thought out ideas, but about virtue signaling alone.
Finally: if you cannot even preserve your own people, the very foundation of everything you are on a collective level, what CAN you conserve and what right do you have to call yourself a conservative? If you do not protect and fight for the interests of your people to ensure their continued existence and prosperity, you are not a conservative at all.
But if you actively take the side of the enemies of your people and fight for their end-goals like many cuckservatives do, then you are nothing but a traitor. And reactive hate, that stems from rightful indignation, is more than justified.
Jacob Parker
If you do not understand it, it is your problem, not ours.
Jordan Hughes
It wasn't us that started it, fuckstick. Every fucking non-white nigger out there proclaimed a desire to take everything from us as soon as they smelled blood in the water.
The moment someone jew whispered in their ear that they had some kind of moral claim on the west they jumped in with both feet, without a second's hesitation. Through words and action and association you showed your true colors. Thinking you no longer needed to deal fairly with us to get access to our resources and innovations.
If this had been a legit shit-test, rather than a jewish trick on both of us, you all would have failed and proven yourselves disloyal backstabbing shitfucks. So we ARE treating it as a shit test. The jews at least did us a favor on that front.
You thought you could take us? That we wouldn't fight being exterminated? Fuck you. All you faggots are fucked. Everybody dies. This world is ours and we're taking it.
Samuel Edwards
i only want to be surrounded by Italians i honestly dont care about anything else but i would always prefer a European person rather than a filthy African
Wyatt Williams
>Your ((( white ethnostate ))) is a jewish psyop So all of white history is also a psyop?
Aiden Hernandez
Culture is built by the people that create it. Culture is race and race is culture
Gabriel Morgan
Even if it wasn't, why would white people be obligated to share their country/ culture/ resources with others?
Hunter Price
Civic nationalism in America works, but is also due too our melting pot. Europe is F'd for the most part. There are exceptions.
Easton Brooks
*looks at flag * yeah that statement checks out.
Gabriel Sanchez
>CULTURE is more important than RACE Culture is a function of race (genetics).
Gavin Walker
>Civic nationalism in America works, Boomerfag detected Civic nationalism does not work in America you utter mongoloid. We have a current slow-boil civil war on our hands and it's racially pitched.
Levi Jenkins
We're already doing that you dumb mutt and guess what's happening yep that's right their acting even more retarded than before.
