So I have just been listening to this 2,5 hour talk of David Irving and he talked about Zundel, the Leuchter report and his terrible treatment by the court and legal system and stapo in Austria, his prison time and career as a author and historian.
BUT he did mention something peculiar that doesn't go in line with all the revionists here: He said 1.) that Auschwitz was a terrible labor camp in which hundreds of thousands of people died AND Treblinka, Sobibor and Majdanek HAD been extermination camps with the intention to murder Jews 2.) that gassings with the intent to kill DID take place 3.) that in the end millions of people died in these camps and were murdered in them 4.) that Himmler knew about it, but he thinks Hitler didn't and never had the intention to systematically eradicate all of the world's Jews, but win the war first before making a decision on what to do with the Jews at all and it were instead X, Y and Z who wanted to kill the Jews like Himmler (camps), Goebbels (Reichskristallnacht) and individual other Nazis (the systematic killings) who committed those atrocities
Now if we add the Einsatzgruppen to these millions who died in the camps alone, it seems that a figure of or close to six million is not out of reach. So we are left with a picture that marketed the holocaust as something unique to be used as a political tool and object of profit since the 1970s onward, but the general idea of what happened is more or less true.
>still trying to convince lurkers on Sup Forums the holohoax happened when Sup Forums has already proved it never happened but should have
Yikes.
Jaxon Richardson
Ive never cared what David Irving thinks.
For over 30 years i believed completely in the Holocaust, now after researching it I think it's a lie.
Dominic Jackson
This lines up well with my view on it. Gassings probably did take place but I doubt millions were executed this way. Millions most likely died but from the evidence that I have seen most of the who died were not executed but died of starvation and disease. The camps being temporary fixtures until the war was over rather than being torture and death camps make more sense.
Easton Nguyen
>This lines up well with my view on it. Gassings probably did take place but I doubt millions were executed this way.
Theres no evidence anyone was gassed ever in any camp.
Jacob Butler
The only thing he ever said is that Hitler didn't enforce a plan to "kill all the Jews in the world" and the kikes fucking ruined him. It's such a stupid story anyway. Himmler was an asshole and so were a few SS soldiers, big woop. If you think that's evil imagine being US and raping France when you aren't even at war with it and immolating entire cities with fire.
Jeremiah Garcia
>those atrocities Faggy libspeak. Do you officially disavow natonal socialism too?
Lincoln Hall
The final redpill is that the holocaust happened, but it happened in labour camps
Caleb Sullivan
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Hudson Lopez
Oops wrong pic, this is the one
6 million is a complete fabrication
Jonathan Robinson
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Michael Baker
David Irving is a joke, his pathetic arguments were rightfully debunked
Hudson Richardson
the vans with the exhaust pipes fed back in were I suppose technically "gas chambers" but proved totally impractical in scale & from having to clean them out. Agreed Auschwitz was primarily an industrial production site - it was virtually a self contained town rather than a "camp" - eg it included the Monowitz rubber plant where British POWs ended up as workers in very hard conditions
Jayden Harris
>Theres no evidence anyone was gassed ever in any camp.
false
William Carter
>Sup Forums has already proved it never happened but should have
false
Grayson Gonzalez
>but it happened in labour camps false
Julian Williams
>6 million is a complete fabrication false
Kevin Watson
Yes the gas chambers were right next to the swimming pool, football pitch and theatre.
Zachary Martinez
and the industrial scale crematoria and gas chambers at the rail head at Birkenau
Caleb Allen
false
Nolan Robinson
He also opposes the term "Holocaust", did you not get that part at any point?
Jackson Ortiz
Wow, that's an airtight argument!
Ayden Edwards
I'm saying perhaps there were instances where the Jew hate got out of hands and they wrongfully killed people. I would not be surprised if something fucked up like that went down even once and then the story spread and got bloated into that they were doing this systematically on a mass scale.
Brandon Johnson
on behalf of the whole french nation, i apologize for the absolute shill faggot trying is best to save (((the narrative))). he is hereby not considered a citizen of the french nation anymore.
Liam Hill
David Irving frequently says himself that he does not claim to be an authority or expert on the holocuast.
That he can direct you towards expert revisionists and conventional historians alike. That he can give his opinion about the holocaust. But you can't take it too seriously.
Colton Evans
>Ive never cared what David Irving thinks. You should, no one has invested as much of their life into the ww2 subject than irving and he's fluent in german and is solely the reason for many of the documents we now know of and the current historians perspective on roosevelt/churchill relationship.
Wrong, irving updates his views as more evidence comes to light, he's far from a joke and one of the most important historians of our age. Don't take it from me take it from christopher hitchens.
Fairly true, irvings an expert on hitlers years in power above all else and his knowledge of documents,diary entries,operation reinhard etc are second to none.
Which part? Because I think we've definitely proven it should have.
Noah Hill
He's a Jew, not French. Admitted it in another thread. There are a few of them here right now making holohoax topics and presenting the same tired debunked nonsense.
