Welcome to the Mars Independent General. This thread is dedicated to the discussion of creating a European Colony on Mars, not by direct funding, but through the commercial emigration scheme that will eventually come into play. This is real. This is going to happen. We need you to consider the choice.
The first Mars Colony is predicted to be established as early as 7 years from now. Very quickly the colony is going to expand, and Elon Musk has made it clear that commercial emigration will come in to play only a few years later. This means the first large influx of settlers over the next 50 years are going to be families who sell their properties on Earth for the ticket. Only people who can afford to move there will be able to. lets face it - a majority european colony on mars is the only way to truly secure the 14 words.
>Plan: /mig/ is a new general and a work in progress. feel free to contribute ideas. Essentially, once the colonisation effort becomes commercial, we need to move there.
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>inb4 space is fake kys >inb4 muh economics kys >inb4 STOP LARPING the short term goal of this general is to simply re-inspire our fellow Nationalists, Fascists & Racialists on the subject of space exploration & colonisation. We hope to promote a new positive attitude towards life on Mars amongst those who value the future of the European peoples.
./ The general will be posted a few times a week or a few times a day.
MANS DESTINY IS TO CONQUER THE STARS OR DIE TRYING
Jack Howard
previous thread covering the Falcon Heavy launch here →
pretty fun going through the posts, lots of hype around the time of launch
Wyatt Price
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Jacob Brown
Remember why we fight.
This general is definitely not about abandoning the problems we have here on Earth, we believe that the European peoples are not only strong enough to overcome those problems, but are able to dedicate themselves on multiple fronts, Mars is that other front.
Jack Thompson
bump
Connor Diaz
>the grass is always greener... One of mans' biggest lies to himself.
Josiah Robinson
We need regular space threads - just about anything +space. taxes in space? property in space? money in space?
Angel Evans
Futile
Brandon Reed
# Venus could be an accessory in some way. In order to colonize mars sustainably, there needs to be advancements in: -genetic engineering of crops (to protect against raditation when in hab modules)
-algae/yeast culturing (again, genetically modifed to supply nutrients)
-Nuclear reactor tech. In order to provide heat and a means of substantial oxygen/fuel generation, nuclear fission/fusion is the only way to go. Fusion technology will also allow terraforming (if reactors are fashioned beneath blimps to provide an artificial sun)
-Landing castle manufacturing magic shit for fucking up Earth when we are done
Michael Jenkins
care to expand on these statements ?
I think i'm going to be the only person doing a general like this. in future /mig/s I can post links to things covering topics like tax/property/law/money etc .Its a new general so I don't have any of that stuff yet, feel free to post anything you have thats interesting
Liam Green
there is no future for white people on this planet. we need to put all our effort into leaving this shithole and colonizing mars
Zachary Edwards
If I remember correctly, the easiest way suggested to colonise Venus in the near future would be with Zeppelin like structure, and ultimately would serve better as scientific research outposts / possible holiday locations as opposed to what Mars will be, a social, self sustaining colony, constantly expanding.
Brayden Rivera
b u m p
Ethan Bennett
Golden Venusian clouds also emulate heaven, which would hold spiritual significance as well. A very interesting environment would be created.
Joseph Turner
Elon said he wasn't gonna Micromanage Mars but I don't believe him
Brayden Roberts
Isnt it just getter to make rotating habitats? Living in Mars might be hell to our bodies.
Nevertheless I support the Fifth Empire whatever it may be. All Caucasians should unite and get away from this, if not possible get a place to make our own giant arcologies.
Ethan Price
>tfw you will see the Adeptus Mechanicus become real in your lifetime
Wyatt Ward
The only good tyranny is that of Distance one of our poets says.
Its the drive that pushed Western exploration, and America is the only nation which shared the same Grand Myth of braving the frontier.
Zachary Ramirez
And this is somehow a better idea than the Northwest Imperative?
>Moon Machines PART 1 >Moon Machines in the US and UK is a Science Channel HD documentary miniseries consisting of six episodes documenting the engineering challenges of the Apollo Program to land a man on the Moon. youtube.com/watch?v=o39UlJlMce8
Juan Brown
The Northwest Imperative (and related organisations) are very important movements. see for my answer to this, it's not about "better" or "worse". pic related
Jordan King
>this thread is dedicated to shilling the space meme that what my shill boss muskrat is paying to do
hi shill. you'd get more traction and sell morte roadsters with this thread topic > which is most pathetic hoax, the holohoax or the spacehoax ?
Juan Wright
Yes. Elon is paying me to shill the space meme here and there isn't shit you can do about it.
Owen Gutierrez
>You will see men on Mars in your lifetime I can die happy.
Blake Robinson
the effects of low grav and radiation is going to put our bodies under a bit of stress, as I understand... a surface colony on Mars is more achievable in the short term than a rotating habitat, which is slightly more in the realm of sci-fi still.
Mason Cruz
i think ((((certain))))) posters have already saged this thread. a little bump would be appreciated since the past two generals got loads of positive attention.
Isaiah Stewart
bump.
>what a beautiful view
Jayden Green
bump
Cameron Phillips
>you will see other men living your dream cuck
Ayden Carter
bump. Threads on space all day.... and suddenly, no interest ?
advice on information to include in OP (or the general structure of OP) would be appreciated...
if anyone fancies shopping a better insignia (whether it be a Swastika or something else) over the NASA logo, that would be pretty cool.
Michael Wright
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Andrew Gray
Obviously fake. Spherecucks btfo
Christopher Ross
wow nice argument, you are totally right.
Asher Nelson
Flat earth is the only model that makes sense. Research it.
Parker Gomez
wow nice argument, you are totally right.
Dylan Young
I'm bad at photoshop but basically I envision the actual spaceX logo with a swastika instead of an X, but still with the little flair
Kevin Brooks
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Zachary Edwards
>the actual spaceX logo with a swastika instead of an X that's actually pretty funny. Maybe another user who's better with photoshop will pick up what you started
Dylan Anderson
2018 and still denying the truth of flat earth... just sad
Tyler Sanchez
Yeah! Sort of like this basically but obviously with more design skill kek
Asher Phillips
Or maybe more like the actual logo
Nathaniel Baker
If I were to start up a micro brewery within the colony, would you cunts come n have a drink n spin a yarn with an wise cracka?
Joshua Sullivan
DREAM ON, MARS MAN
Adam Scott
Rev up those brew tanks Cause I sure want to get shit faced on Mars
Liam Brooks
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Cooper Lewis
Unironically there is going to be many healthy business opportunities for ideas like this.
Jack Kelly
Do we appoint an Irishman to be head of liquor licensing? Or to be a lobbyist to tell the fuzz to fuck off
Christopher Sullivan
I like it! Here's some more inspo with your design, I was thinking just putting in some contrast with the blue in space X logo (which is not the blues I used, but you get the idea)
So I know Elon wanted to put in some 50s style diners at the supercharger stations, and I read somewhere he wanted to see coffee shops like Starbucks on Mars. I wonder what it will look like; we won't have the freedom of division and seperating things into sectors like we do now here on earth since there's gonna be so many new considerations.
Colton Morales
When we have an independent Mars will we come back to earth for reconquista or destroy earth forever?
Chase Flores
Bump
Asher Robinson
Yeah Elon mentioned the diners.... I vaguely remember an article about Pizza Hut wanting to go to Mars. That was a while ago though haha
Jacob Richardson
Hopefully we are going to stabilize our situation on Earth, and there will be no need to worry about it again (at least not in our children's or grandchildren's lifetime)
Nolan Lewis
So basically we're building Earth again. I don't think companies who put branches on Mars are gonna want to let Earth be destroyed, since it's epic marketing.
Julian Jackson
So will we have a government that is located strictly in earth? Or will we have a Confederacy between the planets? What is our flag What is our language? What is our culture? And what type of government would the two planets be United under?
I predict that we should have a federal third position like government stationed in earth
Evan Morales
Notice the lack of black co-pilot.
Jack Collins
mommy mommy can i go swing?
sorry honey dust storms are 200mph untill next november and its 250 degrees out :(
Jonathan Hall
See the links fag
Lucas Wood
>So will we have a government that is located strictly in earth? Im not sure. >Or will we have a Confederacy between the planets? In terms of having a European Ethno-colony, some sort of confederacy... I guess. >What is our flag any original flag designs should be posted in the general, if they are good, I'll use them. >What is our language English, obviously >What is our culture This is important. We are going to have our roots completely cut from Earth, it would be of unparalleled importance to ensure that every child in the colony dedicates themself to the survival of the colony, the expansion and survival of the martian way of life will be the foundation of early Martian culture.
Justin Rogers
>culture
One of strength, we will need the children strong for the mines.
Bentley Richardson
>flag (pic related) is one of the most commonly used "de facto" flags right now. It's supposed to represent the timeline of transformation.
Henry Cooper
1 major question. How in the hell are we going to have an ethno colony on Mars with all space agencies being compromised by (((them)))
Nathaniel Myers
That looks horrendously dull and disgusting I suggest a better flag
Xavier Myers
Yea, but it's minimalistic and simple, not any "worse" than that of france. Plus we're probably going to have different colonies by different countries, so flags will differ from one to another.
Eli Walker
Could Sup Forums send a man to space?
Isaiah Martin
read back through OP, friend >commercial emigration will come in to play only a few years later. This means the first large influx of settlers over the next 50 years are going to be families who sell their properties on Earth for the ticket. Only people who can afford to move there will be able to.
Combined with the fact that many many people will simply not want to go immediately, we have a real chance of getting a successful hold on the colony. Yeah, i've seen this flag. I get it, but I don't like it. I'm not sure if its missing something or in general, red-green-blue isnt that aesthetically pleasing
Christian Jones
check OP >not by direct funding This isn't about a "/pol backed mission to Mars"
Jacob Evans
Wait a minute OP said that we were going to cut ties with Earth and have a fully independent autonomous Mars. It will be european, but can we put earth birds of prey or the fasces on the flag? Or should we not have anything to do with earth at all?
James Bennett
Oh so we are going to usurp them and have a tight grip on the colony? That is FANTASTIC
Gabriel Turner
>were going to cut ties with Earth and have a fully independent autonomous Mars.
Not a fully autonomous Mars, but a fully autonomous European colony on Mars.... If concepts such as Cultural Marxism (and all the other shit that is threatening European peoples) takes root on Mars in a powerful way, I see no reason why we shouldnt push for independence.
Henry Rogers
Gotta bring proffesional whores. One for each member. Paid to act as traditional women with sex anytime. Must know basics of food preparation, plus skilled vagina. Annual contract.
Brody Murphy
That is what i'm suggesting.
Tyler Russell
Awesome! I wonder in what process are we going to do it? Violence Or subversion?
Jonathan Martinez
Subversion. All the way. We will be on near equal footing with (((them)))) and other races in the early days of the colony. We have a real chance at this. But like i said in OP, at the moment we just want to make sure our peoples are interested in space & mars... as the days draw closer and /mig/ evolves, we'll have a formed a more detailed plan.
Oliver Howard
We terraform Mars, and then nuke Earth.
Anthony Martin
Hahhahhahhaahaha I love it using (((their))) own medicine against them How ironic
Kayden Rodriguez
God, does Elon get one? He's terrible in relationships, maybe he could use one.
Brayden Myers
No Remember we are animals native to earth
Leo Nelson
Yep. and unless someone can tell me otherwise.... there isn't shit they can do to stop us.
Eli Jones
Earth won't have anything of value left. What's left in there is a danger that's not worth letting run freely.
John Diaz
He's doing alright actually.... Five sons.
Christopher Brooks
No mother figure though. That's gotta be some healthy sperm! Is that five sons including the one that died, or did he have five more after?
Jayden Fisher
Yes I agree we should cleanse earth but nuking our own native planet is Fucking absurd
Henry Edwards
Nuclear winters are temporary. Nuke the atmosphere to act as an EMP and ensure nobody can do anything, then nuke the surface.
Jaxson Hughes
Are you unironic on your post? Because think about other animals on Earth that may die or probably extinct!
>Inb4 animal lover
If we ever brought animals from Earth to Mars speciation will occur and over time they will become different species
Alexander Bennett
five after the death of his son Nevada... I also just realised he's given his sons fucking badass names >Saxon Musk >Griffen Musk
Brandon Adams
Animals will adapt or die, eitherway they didn't evolve to become intelligent, so they are a biological dead end that will never amount to anything other than eating and breeding.
Aiden Foster
How about all of our history will you actually let that go to waste?
Xavier Gutierrez
It's the only way to be sure
Asher Moore
wait..... griffen.... >lol i hope someone gets this joke
Kayden Howard
Those names sound badass now but if I knew a kid name Saxon Musk in gradeschool I'd have kicked his ass.
Luis Bell
I'm sure plenty will remain standing. After all, the point of a nuclear winter is contamination and radiation, not straight up destruction.
And even then, those people on Mars will embody the history that came before.
Carson Walker
What Is our religon in Mars is it Christianity?
John Nelson
I'm not religious myself, and judging by the amount of Christians who aren't even interested in space.... there probably won't be any need to worry about it.
Jaxon Jones
I think WASP's would disagree with you
Jordan Gray
True Bible believing Christians have no interest in space because they know space is fake. God's word says Earth is flat topped by an impenetrable firmament. Deal with it spherecucks, I literally can't be wrong.
Elijah Moore
> So will we have a government that is located strictly in earth? As long as Mars is dependent on Earth, then yes. The initial issue is competing colonies. Think 1500's America but without Indians. Everything goes when there is no Sovereign. > What is our flag? Symbols are important, but they are not essential. That happens organically. > what type of government would the two planets be United under? Colonies on Mars will happen before there is a de facto world government on Earth. The question is whether governments or businesses would be the ones in control. Imagine a Mars Colony™ versus Peoples Republic of China kind of scenario.
The important steps are when Mars has one sovereign power and when Mars is not dependent on Earth for resources. Those are the points where Mars can start effectively act as what we now call a nation, and when we later can declare independence.
Language and culture starts with what is brought from Earth. What follows is what happens to all languages and cultures, it will develop according to what the population values.
In the end everything depends on who supplies its colony and if that colony out competes the others.
John Price
KEK
Christopher Evans
Well, its totally down to Christians really.. i imagine theres a chance a church will be built for things like marriage
Xavier Bailey
How about you start smaller by colonizing Antarctica?