Brazilian media is reporting that the brazilian army has info that Maduro might be planning to invade the Essequibo region of Guyana, literally half the country, as a way to raise support for his failing regime. Guyana is part of the Commonwealth so maybe bongs will defend them, and it's also increasingly a strategic partner to Brazil (and we allegedly vowed to "retaliate" if Maduro invaded it), which plans to use it to export goods from it's northern states. Venezuela and Guyana have a long history of disputing the region, but it was recognized as Guyanan when both countries agreed to let an international court arbitrate their dispute.
Source: >The Brazilian Armed Forces have the information that Venezuela plans to take by force the Essequibo region that belongs to Guyana. The UN pratically washed its hands of the territorial dispute.
>The trip of Raul Jungmann [Brazil's defense minister] to Guiana, as well as Suriname, is a message that Brazil will not tolerate Maduro's aggression against any neighbor country.
>actual habbening happening this is too good to be true
Chase Jackson
Doesn't he need food to feed his army?
Wyatt Richardson
You conquer territory to feed your army in situations like this
Jackson Morgan
Venezuela is suicidal if they try it.
Gabriel Cruz
BTW I must add that Brazil is literally being invaded by Venezuelans already, something like 10% of the people in Roraima's (northernmost state) capital are venezuelan already, and thats close to 10% of the entire state's population The army gets food first, Korea-style
Grayson Harris
I mean, Guyana by itself is weak as fuck,but its filled with jungle so it might be hard to invade. All they need is to take the capital tho.
But will the UK be OK with this? Will France? Remember that Guyana is in the Commonwealth and French Guyana is French and right next to it
Jeremiah Taylor
Worrying if true. Any Anons got any idea about the two countries' relative military strengths and capabilities. Something tells me that the Socialist Paradise of Venezuela isn't likely to be capable of a great deal in the long run. Don't want to see Brazilbros hurt in the process, though.
Angel Watson
>Brazil will not tolerate Maduro's aggression against any neighbor country. Wait a minute. That's something the USA would say.
Luke Allen
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Ethan Wright
I don't think that the short bus driver Maduro would be that stupid, but it surely would be entertaining. So I hope it's true.
Carson Morgan
Sounds like Maduro is getting nervous
Juan Wright
>But will the UK be OK with this? Will France?
Commonwealth or not - NO country on the planet would be okay with this. Its 2018, unless you are Russia just attacking your neighbors doesn't float anymore.
Brandon Harris
That a because the US is a superpower and can project their power pretty much everywhere. Brazil is a local power and can project their power to neighboring countries.
America does what it does because it can, just like any other country.
Thomas Phillips
IT'S HAPPENING THERE IS NO BETTER MOTIVATOR THAN DESESPERATION
Lucas Phillips
Why the fuck would they attack a nation within the British sphere of influence? It didn't save the Argentine junta, it won't save this dumb fuck.
Jose Garcia
What can Trump do if Dems win Congress in November?
Ayden Myers
they have a bunch of modern weapons and shit they bought from Russia, but they're likely lacking in maintenance and are poor as fuck, and I dunno if the military is willing to die for Maduro. On the one hand this is as big there as the Falklands in Argentina and people will go full nationalist and insane about it, on the other its a retarded war to keep a retarded leader popular Here's a comparison: globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=brazil&country2=venezuela&Submit=COMPARE
desperation? to stir nationalist sentiment? he probably thinks its easy, and if no one defends them it'll be easy as fuck, the biggest obstacle will just be crossing the jungle
Lucas Morgan
to be fair the Falklands were completely undefended and the government only reacted after they were taken
Juan Lee
they already got a no before, more than 100 years ago, but they didnt stop
>to be fair the Falklands were completely undefended and the government only reacted after they were taken
True. But then the British military presence in the South Atlantic is quadruple what it was in 1982, even with our relative current military weakness. The British airbase at Mt Pleasant is pretty damn extensive, and tech has moved a lot further since the early 80s. He'd be making a silly mistake. A good war would be all it takes for Britain to unify in this current period of national indecision.
will the UK send the gurkas to the jungles of essequibo?
Isaac Torres
I honestly don't think I've ever even known about Guyana's existence until just now.
Luis Hall
Venezuela has always considered that their land. I used to live in Venezuela. Maps in Venezuela show that area as part of Venezuela, though they do acknowledge that their claim is contested. And obviously they don't physically control the land.
On maps it's marked the zona disputada or Zona en Reclamación. I wouldn't be surprised if Maduro saber rattling over it to get gibs.
Asher Kelly
It's where Jim Jones sent all those nigger commies in Jonestown and they all anhero'd
Caleb Hughes
Exactly, especially under Maduro. IIRC he even changed their flag to add another star to represent the Essequibo region. It might be a dumb move, but it might be really popular
Levi Carter
You should be hoping this happens. It would be the first war where you get to be relevant since WW2, and coming off the heels of Brexit could unite Britain enough to actually go for a hard Brexit.
Ryan Williams
>I honestly don't think I've ever even known about Guyana's existence until just now.
I met a man from Guyana last year in a French country chateau. They are pretty rare. It's a rather weird country. Lots of mineral resources, jungle and Indians.
>will the UK send the gurkas to the jungles of essequibo?
At this point? Honestly, yes. Our government is currently flailing, just like Margaret Thatcher's government was in 1982. The Falklands War boosted her popularity so much that it would be impossible to resist for the current embarrassing government.
Thomas Watson
It was a british colony, got independent and them ruled by marxist dictators or marxist presidents. Its largely poor and irrelevant, most people live in the coasts, there's a bunch of pooinloos there, Venezuela claims half their country as theirs, etc.
Luis Jenkins
>Guyana Isn't it protected by the brits? Not that they excel at jungle warfare, but still, it doesn't sound like a good idea.
Josiah Garcia
>It would be the first war where you get to be relevant since WW2
OK lad.
>coming off the heels of Brexit could unite Britain enough to actually go for a hard Brexit.
That's the thing. Five years ago, I don't think Britain would fuck all in such a scenario. Right now, however, the atmosphere is so febrile and millions of Englishmen are chomping at the bit for an outlet to express their national pride , that a short sharp war would basically be inevitable.
>Not that they excel at jungle warfare
British Army Training Support Unit Belize is still a thing. You'd be surprised at just what the army is capable of, even after the brutal cuts it has had.
William Long
>Thatcher - Falklands >May - Guyana Sure, Women are far more peaceful than men.
the guyanas are weird as fuck. Its south america and filled with commies, sure, but they barely have people, especially on the interior, and they have muslims, poos and a bunch of other weird shit that doesnt seem to belong in south america I think they are
Liam Martinez
BTW this isnt just in the media.
Even some politicians are already saying they hope to fuck Maduro up
Lucas Hernandez
USA was virtually no help to the UK in the Falkland conflict besides allowing us to use Ascension which we owned anyway.
America has no interest in winning wars or doing anything productive with it's military strength.
Nathan Cooper
>Brazil, Colombia and the UK will save them I hope the chaos of us getting involved in another war brings about this governments collapse
Sebastian Price
>Mogg leading British forces into socialist Venezuela
Christ this makes me hard.
>they have muslims, poos and a bunch of other weird shit that doesnt seem to belong in south america
A legacy of Empire, amigo.
Brandon Adams
It would be an embarrassment just like last time.
Blake Gutierrez
here's what the article says, and I think it makes sense
>After all, basic research would show that ironically, it was the United States that had backed Venezuela in the past, and encouraged them to lay claim to the Essequibo.
>As a matter of fact, the United States President Grover Cleveland had made it clear in an address to the US Congress on 17 December 1895, that the US was willing to go to war with Britain if necessary over the Essequibo. >An extract of his speech provoked that belief in which he had pressed for a commission, “to resist, by every means in its power as a willful aggression, upon its rights and interests any British attempt to exercise jurisdiction over a territory the United States judged as Venezuelan”.
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>Moreover, the US government had repeatedly indicated back then that the United States has more economic interest in Venezuela than the then British Guiana.
>And while the United States does not support the current policies and regime in Caracas, the US remains Venezuela largest trading partner, while Venezuela has the largest number of American-owned or American backed investments in South America.
>So at best, all the Americans really care about is a regime change in Caracas to suit their interest, and a change of policy that is benefiting to all of the American investments that are stalled up there.
tl;dr the US always supported Venezuela and still has more money there, they only want a non-commie to rule it
John Rogers
I really wanna see the Daily Mail's cover stories about Maduro being BTFO >Mogg leading British forces into socialist Venezuela Based.
Would Corbyn support this btw? That old cuck even wanted to hand over the falklands
Liam Gomez
I'll second that. Provided Jeremy 'I Want Nigger and Kebab Cock in my Ass' Corbyn doesn't manage to pull off a victory in the aftermath. Pic related: Found on Jewgle, note the first three letters of the (unchanged) filename.
Charles Johnson
Arse* FUCKFUCKFUCK
Nolan Scott
>Would Corbyn support this btw
Are you joking? He invited the IRA into the Palace of Westminster and referred to Hezbollah as his friends.
Joseph Hernandez
>Venezuela declares war on Guyana >Theresa May Resigns >Mogg made PM >Mogg announces a new golden age for the anglo-race and the commonwealth >rallies all commonwealth nations to declare war on venezuela >mfw the war is won, Venezuela is freed... >... the condition that they join the commonwealth
Benjamin Foster
>Would Corbyn support this btw? there is video footage of him praising maduro standing infront of a venezuelan flag praising socialism, he would support venezuelas cause
Cameron Peterson
Make Britain Great Again!
Henry Russell
He would support whichever cause he thought would destroy Europe and Western culture the fastest. Man needs a fucking helicopter ride ASAP.
John Price
Here's why they hope for Brazilian, Colombian, British help >First of all, Brazil has the most powerful and most equipped army in South America, and is a military proxy of the United Nations and the West, tasked with ensuring that Venezuela and any other rogue nation is kept in line.
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>Venezuela knows this, and was often diplomatically warned by Brazil whenever it threatens to move any military force in large numbers to the border; – thus making it clear that the Brazilian military will most likely intervene in the interest of regional peace if necessary.
>On the other hand, Colombia has been one of the most outspoken countries against the Venezuelan government; a fact that has seen the country’s President repeatedly expressing his support to use force if necessary to remove Venezuelan leader Nicholas Maduro from power.
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>And since Colombia has one of the most powerful armies in South America, and an army that has more firepower than Venezuela, Caracas knows that it will not worth the risk to open itself to a battle with the Colombians who may very well use any Venezuelan attack on Guyana as an excuse to militarily force out Maduro.
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>Last but not least, England was the mother country that had benefited from the arbitration settlement with Venezuela regarding the Essequibo.
>Still a part of the EU, they have been collectively placing pressure on Venezuela military generals, while pushing for more sanctions.
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>And since England is another Western country that wants to see the back of Maduro, you bet that Great Britain would be inclined to use a Venezuelan attack against Guyana as an excuse to use military force to topple the current socialist regime in Venezuela.
so a war might fuck his ambitions even more than they already are fucked >rallies all commonwealth nations to declare war on venezuela I think thats unlikely, and most are useless anyway
Asher Barnes
if corbyn gets btfo who leads Labour afterwards?
Noah Lewis
but he's an obama level incompetent ideologue boomer, he would be less dangerous than Blair that's for sure >most are useless anyway having Candian, Australian, New Zealander and especially Indian support would be very good. >who leads Labour afterwards? hopefully no one
Logan Smith
The British Military cannot sustain an overseas war anymore without the US carrying their asses.
Isaac Nguyen
Would they actually help tho? Especially Trudeau, that guy is a total cuck.
Can any of them even project power that far away or would they just send soldiers on British ships and shit?
Sebastian Cooper
>British Army Training Support Unit Belize is still a thing Oh yeah I remember that now. Anyway feel free to invite us to the show, we have a whole jungle army just few kilometers away.
Eli Nguyen
>The British Military cannot sustain an overseas war anymore without the US carrying their asses.
That's what the American military said in 1982.
>Anyway feel free to invite us to the show, we have a whole jungle army just few kilometers away.
Does France even have the guts anymore? One would assume Macron would love a glorious foreign expedition, but then again he seems to give more of a fuck about Merkel and European affairs.
Dylan Mitchell
Macron has been talking very strongly about Maduro, I think you frogs want him gone too
Joseph Perez
I think there'd end up being another leadership contest. You have no idea how bad Labour supporters have gotten, though. I'm from the North, and a particularly Labour-stronghold part of it at that (I've voted Labour since I was able to vote), and literally the only people who are pro-Labour at this point are the rabid "Open Borders Now! Everyone is Hitler!" SJW types and the idiots who just vote Labour because they're not the Tories. We need a serious shakeup soon, or else we're FUCKED. I'm unironically considering voting UKIP in the next election, despite what fucking spackers they are.
Kevin Johnson
>Can any of them even project power that far away do you have no knowledge of Europe's history of colonialism and imperialism?
Chase Nelson
>caring about mud people
Joseph Davis
>Would Corbyn support this btw? because all these niggas are paid by Venezuela, Russia and Iran because they want to destroy the West to rebuild it as a commie paradise
Robert Reyes
the last pols I saw were truly scary, most young people were willing tovote for fucking Corbyn of all peopl, all because muh EU muh feelz
Parker Perez
>The British Military cannot sustain an overseas war anymore without the US carrying their asses. We were waging war in foreign lands centuries before you upstart rebels even existed, Burger. We'll find a way.
Michael Torres
>Any Anons got any idea about the two countries' relative military strengths and capabilities. Venezuela, in true commie style, has a bunch of Russian jets while their people starve. However, such an act of unprovoked bullshit aggression would probably bring the US into the fight, and they've got NOTHING that can touch a fifth gen stealth jet, let alone the rest of our Navy.
Luke Carter
>Does France even have the guts anymore? he's an insecure man finding his inner french nationalist, he would no doubt defend french guyana if it were invaded, but we're talking about guyana here, so it's for us to deal with
Blake Thompson
aww shit is it happening guys? i miss the comfy african conflict threads, a nice one on this hemisphere would be fun.
Angel Watson
the past and the present are not the same thing, friend. And I'm talking about stryans, canadians, indians and kiwis, as he was talking about them They may not need to do so. I mean, can't they just make Suriname or French Guian a base of operations and move things there and then from there to the front?
Adam White
>The British Military cannot sustain an overseas war And Straya, Kaneda and all the others?
Eli Sanders
That is concerning, although much less of an issue up here (we were the heartland of the Brexiteer faction). I just pray to Kek they don't manage to give 16 year olds the vote. I think the Sheep Shaggers already have, though. Scary shit.
Justin Wood
they bought it a long time ago tho, and Im not sure they're still in good conditions to use, and as I posted in an article above, their logistics is shit
When they wanted to act all manly and threaten Uribe they could barely move their army to the borders quickly enough
Now rolling for South American Happening, Praise Kek, Venezuela invades Guyana, show me some digits !
Gabriel Martinez
if the Indians commited and the commonwealth moved all it's shit from the middle east over to guyana, the war would be over in a month
Josiah Watson
>The British Military cannot sustain an overseas war anymore without the US carrying their asses.
Nathaniel Long
i bet maduros wife is ball busting him to get some takeout.
Jack Martin
>but we're talking about guyana here, so it's for us to deal with
Gotta defend that launch pad, frogbro.
Austin Cook
Rolling again for agents of Chaos to cause Venezuela to invade Guyana , gimmie dose digits !
Luis Lopez
Would be nice of the USA would stay out of this one and let you guys handle this one. Guyana needs your help
Dominic Turner
the dutch are more likely to join in this war than the French
Chase Bennett
Kek I hope Macri helps the brits. I mean i know he wants to do it
Jack Thompson
Given what I've read so far, the US might at most use this as an excuse to overthrow Maduro, but not actually defend Guyanan sovereignty did anyone help in the falklands?
Carter Allen
Well nicholas is making an error because all the commonwealth countries need a war right now. Also the us is in our corner
Levi Walker
>did anyone help in the falklands?
Well the Americans gave us intel I think, and the French sold the Argies exocet rockets to destroy our ships. Other than that it was very local.
Jayden Jenkins
I haven't heard shit from them tho. Trump always btfos Maduro in public, and even Macron was talking tough about this, and I think May did too, but I can't remember ever hearing that faggy PM of theirs talking about Venezuela
Do the dutch even war anymore?
Ryan Jones
Chile provided Britain with airfields for your airforce to refuel and re-arm
Jacob Sanchez
why feed when he can just send them to die
Levi Gomez
Best (((allies))) also help us and peru
Dylan Sullivan
This tbqh
Also, Macron has been slandering Venezuela for some time, partly for the lolz but also to discredit Mélenchon (far left, leader of the opposition) who made the mistake of openly supporting Venezuela.
If the UK just asks politely we'll be glad to help ""stabilize"" the situation
Michael Jackson
>Do the dutch even war anymore? in terms of simple geography, Suriname is of great vulnerability if Guyana is invaded than the French state in the region, their military and navy is so weak now though compared to the days of the Dutch East Indies, I doubt they could defend their territories over there,
Jackson Russell
Brazillian military has been replaced with lawnmowers since the Lula years, and our "jets" are Super Tucanos and Tucanos, so we obviously can't compete with Venezuelan MIGs. We'll win solely with numbers, I guess.
>If the UK just asks politely we'll be glad to help ""stabilize"" the situation I doubt this, Macron is taking a more pro-French stance in terms of foreign policy. He would most likely take a Trumpian line of thinking with regards to it being another nations foreign wars. as much as he was painted as such in the election, i doubt he'd become the french blaire
Owen Allen
>he seems to give more of a fuck about Merkel and European affairs That's true but he's also a big megalomaniac, I think he won't let pass the chance to shine in such an easy situation.
>I think you frogs want him gone too Not sure about that (democracy and shit you know), but if he makes a military move in the region so yes, there's a chance we show him the exit door.
James Diaz
b-b-but muh swede jets
Charles Nguyen
There’s more than one way to intervene. The mercenary market is a growth industry and if someone wanted to put the coin to it, I’ve little doubt Eric Prince or his ilk could turn the situation around. Most 3rd world militaries aren’t understaffed or ill-equiped, so much as undertrained and poorly lead. The Venezuelans have to be hurting for basic supply, given the state of their economy, before they’ve even gotten rolling. A few industrious professionals might permanently derail this military diversion with a bit of spookery.
Aiden Brooks
>democracy >venezuela No such thing anymore.
BTW are frogs like burgers? Do politicians get more popular when they go to war? Would this affect your elections or something?
Michael Green
In this case the Dutch wouldn't even have to ask, some France-led "European" task force would be sent to pacify the shitstorm while helping out bong bros nearby.
While it'd be fun, this could have dire unforeseen consequences: this could be used as a practice case to demonstrate the viability of a (((common EU Army))) and believe me guys we don't want that
Henry Cook
But its close to french land, technically they're almost neighbor countries. And French Guiana has been in turmoil as well, they had months of protests and instability last year
Jack Allen
>lawnmowers Wow He have this beauties defending Argentina from any british invasion
