Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism...

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
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Hello faggot
You have to go back. I'll bring you in my helicopter.

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liguidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis

>Sdage for
Not real gommunism. Move on do nexd coundry XDDdDDD
BoL
GALLY

>Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.

Better dead than red

We can definitely arrange that

>when a soy fed commie tries to talk tough
how's california treating you

If you’re in a worker, i.e. a skilled tradesman, you’re probably not a commie fag.

Good luck,you’ll need it

>that pic
top kek

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>if you don't agree with me then i'll point an empty bb gun at you

If you ignore stupid threads they get pruned.

>Liberals get the bullet too
This would make for a fantastic psyop

>what is sage

Communist parties used to be composed exculsively of tradesmen and factory workers, up until the 70's, when the liberals won and replaced the pro-worker ideology with inane bullshit like fag rights and identity politics (i.e. capitalist approved ideology).

It is the opposite. USSR was socialist, not communist.

Feel free to help us !

>USSR was socialist, not communist.

I would actually give living in a small scale Communist society a try.
Think like that movie the beach.
Anything bigger is doomed to the hell of rampant corruption. If u doubt this just take a look at every large scale Communist society ever.

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came to the thread for this, based spudro poster

You wont pussy, you fags never do shit.

>90%+ of Marxist are located in cities/metropolitan areas
>implying they'll ever implement their will on modern day kulaks in rural, large landmass areas

But first would you like a ride in my helicopter?

This is ironic coming from a right-winger, the same people who have been compromising with liberals since the 50's. When is the race war starting btw? Are there any issues in which right wingers actually imposed their will?

communism sure works well in North Korea...

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>cherrypicking is now a argument

2016 US Elections

>detroit
>dems socialist utopia policies causing the place to become a ghetto and niggers of course
Are you proving my point or yours

>Deflection
Stop deflecting and try to do something cuck, I dare you.
You're either going to do something or you're not.

You're not going to shoot any one because you're a huge pussy. None of you fags will do shit. Prove me wrong. (Pro-tip: You can't)
:^)

Hello Comrades OP died mysteriously so I am now the New OP

Communists are masochist who desire someone more powerful to constantly degrade and dominate them. Proof: they keep making this thread.

Cherry pick from this map

>bu-but choosing pure communist states as an example for proving an argument is cherrypickin-
north korea is closest to pure communist government. china maintains a substantial amount of capitalist elements in its economy, so it isn't exactly true communism. nonetheless the communist chinks are still bad, but at least they know what to do with muslims.

So the wall is being built? The illegals are being deported? China is losing the trade war? Hillary is locked up? Coal is coming back?

Trump election is a perfect example of how degenerate the right wing is. Right-wingers choose a billionaire globalist, lifelong democrat, reality TV show star, with jewish immediate family, a divorcee that married a cheap pornstar looking eastern european whore. Basically everything that goes against the principles right-wingers held 30 years ago.

>Stop deflecting and try to do something cuck, I dare you.
Liberals get you fired from your job the minute you publicly express right-wing tendencies, kek.

all fucking commies must fucking hang
>in all fields

Die in a fire

Should take the advice of your pic, OP
>sage goes in the options field

Cherrypicking lol, you could give any example of communism in history and theyd all be a cherry on the cake of how fucking stupid communism is. You cunts should be happy with your wellfare neetbux and get a job if that isnt enough. There will never be a time you make a gommunist thread anywhere but leftypol without getting bullied. Do you just enjoy negative attention? Typical of you tranny pedos.

>Liberals get you fired from your job the minute you publicly express right-wing tendencies, kek.
>Deflection.jpg

Typical commie, all bark, no bite. Absolute pussy.

>So the wall is being built? The illegals are being deported? China is losing the trade war? Hillary is locked up? Coal is coming back?

youtube.com/watch?v=Nd8uiIpAy8E

link related fag

what a fucking waste of trips.
also, name a pure communist society that works. if there is one, explain why it works

Are you fucking stupid? Communist has been in support of degeneracy since day 1. Antifa in pre-nazi germany was more than glad to defend weimar degenerates from the evil right wing fascists who just wanted their nation back

Ey I heard y'all are giving out free stuff in here. Who has what, I got nothin

You all goto Gulag

see >>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

>Communist has been in support of degeneracy since day 1.
No, liberals capitalists have been. There is nothing in Marx works that deals with "degeneracy". Marx forbid the feminists from joining the Communist party in USA because he, rightfully, saw them as a distraction from real issues.

>Democrats
>Socialist

>Cherrypicking.

Pick a cherry any cherry, they're all the same.

I think we can all agree Anarchism is the better of the two. Catalonia and Paris would've succeeded had outside powers not massacred them all. Wouldn't you agree a business ran democratically by it's worker's is better than one ran by a jew

And wouldn't you rather live under a small government ran by said workers than the shit show we have today?

>Catalonia and Paris would've succeeded had outside powers not massacred them all.
But that is one of the issues of anarchism. It is susceptible from agression by a more organized enemy.

>Wouldn't you agree a business ran democratically by it's worker's is better than one ran by a capitalist
ftfy. It doesn't make it better if the extortionist is white or black or semitic.

Sage the commie fag.

Communism means ordinary people rising to power with the goal of improving the lives of working people, nothing more and nothing less.

>Communism means ordinary people rising to power with the goal of improving the lives of working people, nothing more and nothing less.

Trump is a communist confirmed

Its downfall is that instead of raising the standard for the working class, it just makes the standard lower for the ruling class

Communism is great actually, it is just in need of a little fine tuning and removing the jewish origin

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The Reason they lost wasn't organisation but by The sheer number of people they were fighting alone. In Catalonia they were fighting Franco and The Axis all the while Stalin betrayed them. Take Mahkno for example, Him and The Black Army fucking destroyed the Whites but the Red Army backstabbed him and they were overrun. The Catalonian and Black Armies were no less organized then any other Communist Armies were when they were fighting their revolutions.

look up who invented pornography

Greetings from Caracas, comrade! I look forward to the day when your country finally purges your fascist dictator and his Nazi followers to bring about a true workers uprising. Then you can be just like us here in Caracas aka heaven on earth! If you don’t mind my question, what line of work are you currently in? Us laborers must stick together you know. If you ever find yourself in my area, come pay us a visit, I’m sure you will love it here! Now if you’ll excuse me, my six children and I are about to sit down for a dinner of raw dogchops. Muy delicioso!!

Venezuela is a shitty republic with some social reforms. Most of the businesses and industry are still private owned. You can blame the Venezuelan economy's collapse to The Economic war waged on them by The US and their Allies by Artificially lowering the price of oil.

I doubt Trump is a communist. He's just trying to save the United States. I think he's a true patriot.
It all depends on how well prepared the people are to take power. Stalin was going to transfer power away from the party but he and Beria were murdered by the Trotskyists.
This.

Do you mind if I have National communism?

I don't beleive that communism that ignores genetic behavioral tendencies among populations can survive.

I'm going to try a National Socialist model, and I'll let you know the results. We are very interested in seeing the results of any non-Nationalist Socialist systems as well. Do not attempt to destroy our Socislist experiment, thanks.

capitalist jews

>implying Venezuela is socialist

nevertheless, the working class saw major improvements in their quality of life under Chavez.

What people call communism today is just neoliberalism with trannies. True socialism is more akin to what liberal journalists on twitter call "populism".

>liberals get the bullet too.
What do you know Fascists and Socialists can agree on something

Communism can't work until all work is completely automated.
Once robots replace all human workers, everything can be free and fine.

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I am emphatically NOT your comrade, dipsqueak.

Next stage might look something like you running for the border, as soon as conflict ....yeah right....breaks out, and I post pictures of it on a /rekt thread, laughing in a characteristically capitalist manner at your pseudo-commie vetching.

What an insane economic theory. Why don't you try it out with just a single McDonalds and see how it goes.

>Nazi fags get meme'd on
top kek

If you lived in a fascist republic you wouldn't be in the inner circle. You would be drafted to go fight in a war for 8 years. You wouldn't be posting shitty memes on Sup Forums anymore pal, the regime would arrest you for it.

What kinda war...a just war? Fascists only fight honorably, because we're the good guys. Normally though we just focus on making the exonomy God damned amazing, and promoting culture and social cohesion among our population.

: )

>Fascists only fight honorably
>by killing civilians, women and children

>facists only fight honorably
when did you find out you were autistic Sup Forums?

>Communist only fight honorably
>By giving unarmed liberals the bullet too

>>Communist only fight honorably
I made no such implication.

>By giving unarmed liberals the bullet too
>killing your enemies is wrong

t.cuck

lmao i can tell you when fascists gain power again liberals like Junker and Merkel are going up against the wall.

>>By giving unarmed liberals the bullet too
>>killing your enemies is wrong

You just want them dead, we redpill them and add them to our numbers.
The further left you people go the harder right you make the moderates. All you have left is a bunch of pussies like yourself. The moment you fags get the balls to try this is the moment your "movement" dies in the US completely.

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

-----------------------------------------
Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

you do realize that the only reason why right wing hates you is because you are against religion?

>killing civilians


Uhhh. Look I'm not gonna pull the "rape of Berlin" card here. Or the holodomer card either. We also won't talk about Mao.

But I will tell you this. National Socilism in Germany (which is what you're referring too), is highly misrepresented, and is not the sole example of National Socialism anyway.

Killing of civilians is by no standard the mission of National Socialism, and while regrettable things may happen in war under any government's watch, the NS government's have a wide reputation for good treatement of prisoners and host populations, as well as an abiding respect for the territorial claims of honorable and legitimate nations.

>good treatment of prisoners
>holocaust
>russian prisoner camps

you cracked me dude

>we redpill them and add them to our numbers.
wow, it is working out great for your side, i see! Keep at it!

>The further left you people go the harder right you make the moderates.

AHHAHAHH, nice coping mechanism. But reality show us a different story. Leftists have been pushing around right-wingers since the 50's, and the right-wingers never mounted a successful pushback. Leftists won civil rights, gay marriage, abortion. What have the right-wingers won? Leftists have been pushing the overton window further to the left for the past 70 years, when will the pushback finally happen?

>All you have left is pretty much every institution in America under their firm control

That Google guy, even thou he is right and all he did was to complain in a well written and substantiated letter and see what happened to him. He got immediately fired and balcklisted from Silicone valley jobs. All a right-winger has to do is to publicly declare support for right-wing views and his life is ruined. You call that winning?

>Killing of civilians is by no standard the mission of National Socialism
>What is general ostplan
>What is operation Tannenberg, Intelligenzaktion, holocaust...

> under any government's watch
Name me 1 that had similar death rates to nazi germany. Just one.

>Silicone Valley

Where in the fuck is this ?

Grow the fuck up before posting, Billy.

The Holocaust is a lie. I'm sorry I do not believe in it, so you are talking to the wrong person about that.

>wow, it is working out great for your side, i see! Keep at it!
Thanks!

>when will the pushback finally happen?
I don't know, maybe when we get a president the entire left calls racist I can know we're doing something. But gosh darn, when??

>That Google guy
>Lefty at google sends a memo about other lefties
>Gets called a bigot and fired
when the left eat their own the rekt is right-wing?

>name one regime

I can, it's a communist one, and I'm not interested in going there.

First of all, you're mistaking National Socialism for World War II. Second of all, you're ignoring the fact that the Third Reich was well aware of the Soviet's intentions to invade mainland Europe. The Ostplan was an attempt to handle a post-Soviet world as they envisioned it. With themselves as the victors.

It is without any doubt that much pain and suffering undergone by the Russians during the Soviet era could have been totally negated, had their run away autocracy been quelled by Fascists, whose primary interest in Russia was to settle it with German communities, and developed it's infrastructure further. The Soviet government was a monster, and Hitler did not pretend that that was a true "government of the people". It was a government of Stalin and the Soviet elite, and they made a mockery of socialism with it, all whilst drenching both Russia and Europe in worker's blood.