Lets take some time to talk about Venezuela, as we all know its a ticking time bomb. The situation there is unsustainible, and they have already entered a state of Weimar. If they had where armed, and if the population had a higher IQ they would have revolted by now. However the time is drawing closer. Recently negotiations between the Socialist government and the opposition parties collapsed. In return the government is calling for early elections in April. These snap elections will be manipulated and will not have adequate oversight by any outside observers. The Socialist government is truly terrified if they lose power after the mess they created that they will be defenestrated at the least. So like all Socialist regimes its only increasing its rhetoric and digging in like any dying beast would.
For those who have not been monitoring the situation let me provide some background. >Venezuela riches country in South American with one of the worlds largest proven oil reserves. >Hugo Chavez came into power late 90's early 2000's >When in power the price of oil was high so like any Socialist he promised free shit to the people. >in return for support from the poor masses he spent venezuelas vas oil money on social welfare programs for the people >he game them free fridges apartments soup kitchens, microwaves ect. >naturally the ultra poor where ok with this despite the fact he was obviously a dictator. >the dwindling middle and upper class where opposed to him, only to be quietly arrested >He was imprisoned during a coup by opposition figures. Only to be freed by mass hordes of poor supporters of his. >He claimed the US was trying to kill him as he is allied to Russia. He soon died of cancer. >He tapped Nicolas Maduro to lead before his death >a cult of Chavez was established, with propaganda graffiti springing up everywhere >His eyes became a symbol of his everlasting presence. >Maduro rides this legacy as he is no where near as charismatic as Chavez
>Then the collapse of oil came >the Socialist regime had not diversified its industry which was reliant on oil, instead it squandered the money on Socialism >A drop in oil prices proved to be too much sending the nation into a Weimar style economic Collapse resulting in breadlines and tyrannical rule. >Oscar Perez a special forces soldier, declared the government must step down and revolted >the regime began to hunt for him only to be shocked when he came to them. >he flew a helicopter and threw grenades on a government building in a symbolic show of force against the government. >quickly he became a type of robin hood hero as he was seen as this just warrior on the run. >people had hope that something would change. >soon the government was finding its only supporters from the well fed military and pensioners, disabled, single mothers and even midgets. >many young men are unemployed and angry >the situation is tense and could explode into civil war at any given time possibly the next election. >alas Ozcar Perez Heroically died recently, he was gunned down while combating the military. He even recorded his last words in the firefight link below >Perez said before he died, that he did his part, and that it was up to Venezuelans to overthrow the regime.
Juan Gutierrez
Trump is doing good things by trying to prevent Venezuelan refugees now, before war engulfs the country eventually.
Like in Syria police are being assassinated for the sole purpose of acquiring weapons probably for a uprising liveleak.com/view?i=2ff_1437594519
Supermarkets are barren and barter and trade is illegal, so many are reliant on 8 hour waits in government bread lines. liveleak.com/view?i=46c_1437932962
People kill a farmers cow in a field with sticks and stones to strip it of meat. Also a video of a women cooking and eating her cat. liveleak.com/view?i=5bb_1515872455
Looting and pillaging for food has spread beyond businesses ,thieves now break into peoples homes for food. liveleak.com/view?i=247_1515562196
Its also worth mentioning the richest person in Venezuela is directly related to Maduro.
What do Venezuelan anons think will happen?
Tyler Hernandez
Bump
Christopher Cox
Oscar perez did nothing wrong , but the truth is that venezuela is a slave society , the people give away all the freedoms in exchange for gibs. The government then stole from top to bottom starting over the top , taking from the rich to give gibs to everyone. Now they are stealing from the middle class and giving to the even more poorer people.
Venzuelans have slave mentality even themselves ask for military intervention , let that sink in , asking for a foregin op like desert storm. They don´t want to work , they ask gibs , they don´t want to fight for freedom , they ask for help. In every country they are entering they cause trouble because instead of working they are asking for gibs or selling shit without paying taxes. And don´t make me start on the ammount of state employees on venezuela that don´t have any skills.
Matthew Garcia
So as the youth escapes the country all you have left are: 1_State employees (that do nothing) 2_Commies 3_People that live with gibs and have 12 sons 4_Old people that live from pensions and retired at 50 years old
Even if you overthrow chavism the opposition the mud is part of the socialist international. Venezuela is literally a commie fight between the sao paulo forum commies and the socialist international commies all fighting for control.
The population loves statism , you can´t save that society anymore , it´s doomed and a civil war is the only thing that will save it , after 15 years of genocide a rebirth may happen , but they dig their own graves make no mistake.
Eli Reed
You want to know what will happen?
Jaxon Hernandez
Okey let me start , first we are going to see an holodomor and massive refugee waves going to colombia and brasil. As entropy destroy machinery that the commies never mantain because they are retarded , more and more people are going to escape without nothing. The military may want a coup but the power is divided with many forces (that have the control of the food). Guardia naciona - armed forces - commies - police - and colectivos psychopaths.
All this forces fear the other so a coup will never happen while maduro and diosdado are alive , if they get taken out a coup will happen , the reason why it will never happen with those two is because they mantain all those forces under control.
So we are going to have: 1_Refugees starting (alredy started) 2_Holodomor(already in early stages) 3_Machinery collapse(already happening) 4_North korea style feudal nation or civil war
The 4 depends on how long those two fuckers live ,if they live for 30 years get ready for a south america north korea.
Gabriel Carter
Wish i could find the video of a guy walking through government offices in Venezuela and the govt employees are all asleept at their desks.
Yes you are right, Venezuelan refugees dislike America so they didnt largely flee here anyway. Like you said they flee to Brazil Peru ect. I think something will give, possibly they wil lstrike Guyana, or if they do have a civil war or breakdown make no mistake the US Brazil, and Columbia will intervene, unless Bernie Sanders becomes president, instead he wouldnt do shit and would open the borders to millions of Venezuelans fleeing.
Im not for war, but this regime will fall sooner than later, they wont succumb to a type of North Korean levle of Tyranny, simply because Venezuelans lack the IQ to submit to that level instead it will be a type of urban dystopia ridden with a police state and saturated in crime. I have a feeling this coming up snap election may be the last straq, we wont see any organized revolution instead we will see chaos that could spiral into revolution, anger on the streets is high, and people openly speak out against MAduro, things have changed, there was a time no one questioned the government now the poor are turning against the regime, and the militaries is slowly receiving less food. Also liek you sau industrial decay is real, they Socialized and took over a Chevy or Ford car plant cant remember which one, ofcourse the company cut parts going to the factory. Investigators found the Maduro government auctioned off all the machinery for Social spending. This kind of madness can only last so long. North Koreans largely dont know about the rest of the world, Venezuelans do, they will eventually chimp out on a epic scale.
Eli Williams
It's just another meme republic. They blew all the fucking oil money and now they dare to ask for something. Fuck all the retarded niggers in the world. Fuck them. They have to starve to death. Socialism ends when other peoples money end. It's handy af to live from oil benefits and eat off 1st-world countries plate. Fuck them. I hope these subhuman autistic faggots die in pain. Fucking retarded imbeciles.
Colton Hill
I agree fuck the idiots, but eventually something will have to be done and swiftly because if not we will have a exodus of these Socialist scumbags up into the states. I just want this Socialist pos removed as quickly and painlessly as possible at the first sign of the regime wavering. If not they will continue to try and turn generation after generation into Socialists and they will bleed out into surrounding nations and into the US.
Ian Edwards
Kek , they don´t go to the usa because the darian gap in the panamerican route system , there are no planes leaving venezuela anymore because they don´t have fuel and the airlines have fears of their planes being confiscated so venezuelans go to bogota to fly to other places. And entering the us via airport illegali is impossible as no venezuelan will get a tourist visa right now.
But make no mistake the commies were the first to jump the ship as they had money from their state jobs.
Regarding the iq , yea they are retarded beyond belief , they are idiocracy in real life , the causee is that a welfare state is the opposite of an eugenics program , it´s a dysgenics program ,taking from the smart and giving to the retarded.
Take 3 generations paying that with oil and you have a retarded population , they already have more homicides than the syrian civil war and are a crime state , the police itself is stealing as you can see in many videos.
This is already a genetical problem , 3 generation giving gibs to people that can count 2 + 2 and this is what you get. This is why the socialist international is the opposition , venezuela is a gibs society , they like this shit because they have been 3 generations with this crap.
They are to latte to save , the best outcome can be civil war and us intervention and dolarization of the economy , but i don´t see a civil war when venezuelans themselves ask for foreign armies gibs to give them freedom. They are not capable of understanding that freedom has to come from themselves.
Thomas Diaz
that can´t count 2 + 2 a
Jeremiah Thomas
I am going to work but i was just reading about the blackout of two days ago and found this gem
You can´t make this shit out , i could not stop laughing at the people angry against bus drivers for demanding more money (than the gov fixed price) ,(because they could not even get fuel at the gov price). This shit is too funny they can´t make the connection between price controls and scarcity of goods , to the point they are being moved in cattle trucks.
Luke Stewart
I have heard a interview wit ha venezuelan on Stefan Molyneux , basically said the same, that they where all to scared to let a capitalist toilet paper company in to produce toilet paper without government controls. Essentially they feel safer knowing they can get one roll of toilet paper a week than have a capitalist company sell them enough toilet paper for a month.
Blake Jones
The food situation is so bad, many venuzelans have become gold sellers in Oldschool Runescape, because grinding in game and selling currency to foreigners makes them more USD than pretty much anyone else in the country
Matthew Cruz
The problem for Venezuelan opposition is that they started to scream about Chavez being dictator long before he had become one, unfortunately he was popular as fuck. Reality is that he was charismatic and incompetent leftist populist that ran economy into ground and kept running the show with oil money.
Venezuelan economy has always been tied to oil. Oil prizes go up, good for Venezuela. Oil prizes go down, economic stagnation or outright depression. Difference now is that damn commies managed to destroy rest of economy with retarded economic policy.
Probably most hypocritical people in regards to Venezuela are Colombians. I remember few years ago.. almost a decade ago when Colombians bitched about Venezuela allowing FARC and other drug cartels to smuggle stuff trough Venezuela. Once Venezuela increased border controls, they immediately started to bitch about Venezuela fucking over people smuggling artificially cheap food and fuel to Colombia.
Carter Rodriguez
I hear that interview , and it´s legit , i am not venezuelan but as a southmurican i have been following the situation very closely for 4 years.
Venezuela is late stage socialism and the problem is not just the economy but the people brains they don´t have enough iq to see their decisions in long term , not even medium term , they can only see in the present because they are retarded.
So you can find videos about the gov forcing a shoe store to sell at a loss and the people are happy because muh evil businessman had high prices. Next week the store close and they are out of shoes , you literally can´t make this shit up. If i were part of those us think thanks that are libertarian or conservative i would start translating videos from venezuela asap.
They would redpill a lot of people , but at the end i no longer believe that the socialist problem is ideological , i think it´s genetical , the retarded eventually overbreed the smart and they destroy civilization. The romans suffered the same , diocletian installed price controls after stabilizing the empire and that destroyed the artisan class(which is why the late roman armies did not use the lorica segmentata). And then they fell to literal retarded horse lords beacuse they did not have smart people to mantain society.
This cycle will never stop , retards will destroy societies with gibs and after a purgue that last decades a new society will rise from the ashes.
It´s not just the food , everything is collapsing , the electrical system will not last more than a year and they will become ayn rands america with pirates and shit(screencap this).
Charles Powell
He was a dictator from day one and tried to do a coup years before his election. If passing every law existing by your balls and seizing companies by hand is not dictatorship then i don´t know what it is.
Christopher Miller
What really bakes my beans is that you have never set foot in Venezuela and are talking out of your ass. Every single point you have posted about Venezuela is off by about a mile.
Where in the fuck did you get that shitty info?
Brody Roberts
>there are no planes leaving venezuela anymore because they don´t have fuel and the airlines have fears of their planes being confiscated so venezuelans go to bogota to fly to other places. Essentially all Venezuelan airlines are pariah tier and foreign airlines avoid flying to Venezuela due to their retarded laws.
>He was a dictator from day one and tried to do a coup years before his election. >If passing every law existing by your balls and seizing companies by hand is not dictatorship then i don´t know what it is. Chavez was popular enough to do his commie shit by democratic means. He was president and his supporters had total control in parliament for a decade. Once he was dead, his successor didn't have charisma or oil money keep popularity, so he took increasingly authoritarian measures. So now we are at point where it turns into absolutely everyone joining the riots and Maduro capitulating or civil war.
Andrew Perry
Jesus, this is some Half-Life 2 City 17 dystopian shit happening in Venezuela.
Anthony Ward
I am south american...uses a meme flag...
Fucking hell, you people have taken in too much cool aid
Oliver Long
Hey there is always the chance that op is working for sebin.
Dominic Rogers
show your flag if you are really from South America cause right now you sound like the great American propaganda machine.
/pol calls everything a shill but believes all the bullshit about Venezuela at the moment. This place is literally cancer
Lincoln Howard
fuck off comie you smell like a foro of sao paulo cuck.
Christian Green
Its probably worse in reality
lol kek
Daniel Kelly
utterly btfo
Mason Wright
had to be an argie...every fucking time.
Jose Long
Calling Venezuela a socialist state is wrong, they basically followed the Nordic model of nationalizing their oil companies, but unlike Norwegians they blew all of their money on stupid shit instead of investing into the economy and their people's educations
Venezuela failed not because of socialism but because the people are 90 iq mestizos
Kevin Rogers
Argies are known as the bullshitters of SA. No wonder he was hiding his flag
Jordan Kelly
Is this bait or what. They blew the money on Social welfare programs that where unsustainable.
Nationalization in reality is Socialization.
Caleb Harris
>Bullshiters of SA
I can´t deny that , we used to bullshit ourself until we realized how serious the problem was.
It´s no wonder you are shilling for the commies as you are not a spanish speaker , in every spanish speaking country of sa we are having arrivals of thousands of venezuelan refeugees. Colombia is now having trouble to the point that a city has passed a law of "don´t feed the venezuelan" , because they started to live in public buildings.
Here you can see how hard this guy is shilling , just look at the MONTHLY minimum wages of the continent.
Michael Lewis
Nordic model isn't about nationalizing companies. There are publicly owned companies, but those all operate under free market economy, for most parts more free capitalism than in most other countries. It is just high taxation and high government services kind of capitalism.
The way Venezuela ruined their economy was setting price controls on staple foods and lots of other goods. That killed their agriculture and food industry. That has nothing to do with so called Nordic model. In Nordic countries there hasn't been major government set price controls for pretty much anything other than drugs since WWII.
Ethan Peterson
Who the fuck is shilling for the commies?
You sound like a paranoid American. I have friends in Venezuela, I care about them and their families. I won't sit here and pretend the CIA is not up to its old tricks. Why can't they leave South America the fuck alone?
Oh well, the USA and Europe are now getting a taste of the out of control CIAids cock.
Kevin Edwards
Nordic countries are first in the ease to do business while marxist shitholes like venezuela are worse. This is not going to stop marxist bastards from trying to steal the success of social democracy to install their shithole slavist policies everywhere they go.
Brody Butler
Its still Socialism , it works in mostly homogeneous nations. Over time it does fold, however it largely fails and doesnt work at all in a multicultural Society.
Gabriel Turner
i dont care
im glad they are getting what they deserve
David Rivera
If the cia were ups to their old tricks the gov would have already fallen. Fucking hell , all right i believe you are not a commie , so i am going to educate you.
First the venezuelan gov is operating a state company in the us selling gas to americans(citgo). So if the us wanted them gonne they could simply nationalize that in revenge.
Now how we reach this status? South america is the battlefield of two socialist groups. The socialist international and the foro of sao paulo. Both are subversive motherfuckers that don´t tell you what they believe . But the latter are the worse as they create multiple parties in each country. So for example cristina here was muh middle class , but in the foro of sao paulo the communist pary of argentina was also a member.
The same happened with bachellet muh we are middle class party(yet aligned with the commies) (and at the foro of sao paulo the chilean communist are also aligned with the bachelet party).
So i am not being paranoid , this fuckers have been tricking the middle class to push their agenda , they are wolfes in sheep clothes , every fucking time they present a middle class appealing party and behind the scenes they are also part of the communist parties(which they use as trouble makers).
Check which parties are part of the sao paulo forum in south america and you will see.
Gavin Ortiz
It will work till they either have too few kids to sustain it, or they import to many migrants, or run out of money then it wall slowly fail over time, while dividing the society and creating a lack of trust among neighbors.
Blake Perez
Now let me really bake your beans: Temer is a CIA asset.
Yes, the CIA is also in Venezuela. Saw a protest happening last time I visited: signs in English HAHHAHAH English in Venezuela....SUUUURE, not the CIA looking to get the media to put that shit everywhere and get sympathy to BTFO the government.
Same thing as in Egypt....same thing when they were getting Dilma impeached. I am not Dilma lover, I fucking hate all politicians equally
So Brazil anons, if shit hits the fan in Venezuela, your government will probably be tempted to intervene with Columbia or the US. what do you guys think? What if the conflict spreads in a way, with leftist/gang uprisings in the Favelas? Or Some-kind of insurgency?
Is Brazil prepared for any such scenario?
Aren't the Native indians ect in Venezuela and elsewhere loyal to the Chavista's because of the hand outs and how he praised the indigenous people.
Gabriel Lewis
I see you are truly woke , yes you are correct it is the same shit on a different paradigm at the end of the day you are living of free time.
The marxist ones create inflation and that eventually leads to scarcity and entropy fucking everything until the society collapse.
The social democrats don´t go as far , they push until the inflation happens , instead of living from the future by creating inflation they do it by reducing fertility because the hight taxes prevent people from buying houses and starting families(well at least smart people). So in both cases you are living of the future.
This is why social democrats aim for universal income , if you have universal income you have forced bankarization of the economy. If everyone has a bank account you can remove phyisical currency , if you remove phyisical currency you can automatically tax everyone.
This is smarter than the marxist system but it´s the same orwellian shit. I am going to work murican ,take care of the few states where you can still live without being a tax slave like texas. You don´t want to become like the rest of the world where a shitty appartment cost 3000 monthly wages and only welfare vampires can get homes for free(because the rest of morons are paying for that).
James Parker
that image tries to be deep, but this has pretty much always been the case throughout history
Jason Hughes
Yea temer is fucking shaddy and dilma should not have been impeached that was a terrible idiocy against your democratic system.
Now regarding english signs , the media itself does that for the higher media cartel they work , so they write some shit in english and then take some photos for cnn or that shit.
Now regarding venezuela i actually believe the opposite to you , i think the us has been helping the commies. why?Venezuela totally destroyed opec they unbalanced so much their economy that in every opec meeting they demanded ridiculous quotas for organization to balance their group.
Eventually everything became a shitshow and the saudis told everyone to fuck off. Not to mention that the venezuelans no longer refine their own oil , they create thousands of jobs in texas because they have destroyed their own refineries by turning pdvdsa into a welfare system. On top of that citgo creates jobs in the us and venezuelan commies invest in florida what they stolen.
That said i think it reached the point where their attutide has changed because they don´t want a syria 2.0.
Adam Adams
As our current president is a CIA asset, you can be sure he will back the USA. Wikileaks documents exposed his shenanigans, he was giving info to the US government.
I don't think much will happen in Brazil, we will get shittons of Venezuelans crossing into Brazil of course but I don't think the CIA will be able to fuck Venezuela, they are not a bunch of pussies.
The craziest shit is at some point, several standing democratically elected presidents in South America got Cancer...a Cancer that killed Chavez...let that sink in.
Noah Young
If Venezuela gets a Civil War, i hope this shithole gets one too.
Joseph Hernandez
Interesting theory, only time will tell.
At this point however, I doubt it will come to a large scale conflict. I think the protests will get big enough that the US will decide to step in...
With the way the US economy is about to tank hard, they need to invade as many people as possible.
What the US had not planned however is the Chinese influence and better business tactics they are bringing into South America. Believe it or not, the Chinese are creating sound business deals, something the USA never does.
Brayden Flores
be carefull what you wish for , if your contry elects amlo (foro of sao paulo cuck as maduro) , your government will be controlled by the same kind of venezuela , and you will not get a civil war fast , but you will be leeched for 20 years first.
Lincoln Brooks
By saying the us has been helping i mean that they have been indifferent and let us private companies do shaddy deals. Not that the us gov directly intervened , yet us private individuals did , thousands of us celebrities also shilled for venezuela.
The republican party has woke people about this crap , specially rubio that has always been woke about what is happening in venezuela.
I think that the us wanted to see the commies fail so they even now keep buying their oil and letting citgo operate.
>With the way the US economy is about to tank hard, they need to invade as many people as possible.
Thats a meme war does not create a good economy , look at the us debt in the post war. Hell the us steal oil is also a meme as the us never imported oil from iraq , and now they are exporters.
The us is saddly decadent and has too many internal problems for another war , specially one that will give an excuse to every commie in south america to start doing shit.
Landon Collins
I Heard US news a while back talking about the guy that could be elected in Mexico. Basically made him out as a hard leftist. Id say thats the last thing Mexico needs. Aside from cartels and corruption, how in the world can your government afford to elect a guy promising gibs, it think thats really bad news in the current state mexico is in.
Kevin Phillips
Amlo is using the same tactics that Trump used to get the vote.
And he will win without a doubt because of the Anti-US sentiment that has returned.
"Tan lejos de dios y tan cerca de Estados Unidos"
Joseph Torres
That is where I respectfully disagree
After 2008, there were no changes made, nobody went to jail, the ratings agencies were not punished. CDOs were repackaged and sold as AAA...10 years later, the chicken are about to come home to roost. You now have something more terrifying in the US than dog shit re-branded CDOs, you also have a student loan bubble that is set to pop + crushing debt that is in the trillions.
What is about to come is the perfect storm. A global economic collapse brought down by the US dog & pony show economy.
The first sign is the ratings agencies are acting in the same exact way as 2008.
John Collins
I'm glad that I left that shit hole country and see the rats that are responsible for destroying the country eating each other
Uhhh Chinas economy is tanking too buddy. The whole word is atm, the difference between us and them though is that they didnt have stellar growth through 2017 like we did.
But anybody who believes in China, their meme economy or their one belt one road debt slave scam is retarded, so your statement does not surprise me. Youll be back again begging for the white mans help in a decade from now after the Chinese bleed you dry, just like nearly all of Africa is doing now.
Isaac Hill
>Believe it or not, the Chinese are creating sound business deals You goys should be wary of the Chinese - you only get rich in China by fucking everyone over in such a shameless manner that the robber barons of days past might blush from the grave. But I guess Brazil needs to do what it thinks is best.
Oliver Moore
There is seriously a growing number of Venezuelans in Budapest, young people who came all the way here to work. They are decent people, but I feel bad for them. Nevertheless, they are welcome here.
Cameron Morris
>Spics >Will to fight PICK FUCKING ONE
Isaac Roberts
Judeu de merda volta pra Israel seu corno
Jaxson Morris
In order to have a civil war it is necessarily at least two sides with weapons to fight against each other. Which unfortunately is not the case of Venezuela (at least until you start a Contras 2.0). ... Do you see now why a 2nd ammendment law is important for democracy?
Kayden Hill
Just fuck mexico up , say goodbye to nafta and stability , prepare your anus because you are about to get fucked then.
While it´s true no one went to jail we are not going to have a collapse now , all the world economies are growing and energy is stable if not going down , this mantain a constant demand for goods. That said yea us internal economics are not great , but they are not as bad as people say.
> reads o cafezinho. > the CIA is everywhere (same BS they used when the 64 coup d'etat happened.
Fuck you, commie shill.
Bentley Smith
May you expand on the chinese situation?
Ian Miller
Didn't you have protests not so long ago for resignation of Temer? Now when he's gone, Brasil wants to leave BRICS. Also American politicians, generals openly calls SA their backyard where they can do whatever they want to.
Blake Rivera
You had a bunch of reds saying he staged a coup, that's what you had. It wasn't anywhere near the hype against Dilma. They voted the guy to office themselves. He was Dilma's vice-president. They picked him when they picked Dilma. When she fell, he assumed the vacancy. I don't really care if burgers like to call us their backyard. Fucking leftists did nothing to change that.
Zachary Myers
i like the how high you`re hopes are op but the only civil war that is coming is between the state vs the drug lords in the country as an example
do you know how oscar perez died?
the dude was sorrounded by goverment agencies but when the goverment tried to enter the building
a bunch of criminals attacked the goverments units in a run n gun scene killing one of the mayors of the operation
ps: they killed him (the general in charge of the operation) beacuse he killed one of the closest friend of the drug lord
Ian Johnson
oh shit i goim to travel innacountry to see how bad the situation is wish me luck bois
i will return to post about what is happening in here
