Is the alt right really right wing? they seem like leftists to me. They support big government, public healthcare...

Is the alt right really right wing? they seem like leftists to me. They support big government, public healthcare, public education, retirement pensions, veteren pensions, they're collectivist as fuck, and in general very left wing. The only right wing things about them is their racial, immigration and border control policy. Why is the alt right not called the alt-left instead? they're not too far off from being commies.

The true right-wing is monarchism, alt-right has a lot more to do with the true right than capitalism, which tends to align with the left when convenient

Fascist monarchy is the real deal.

Whats the alt right?

>Dividing "left" and "right" on ECONOMIC grounds

Don;t be so reductionist and ahistorical, OP. Conservatism and right-wingers are traditionally skeptical of rootless, money-grubbing capitalists.

the alt-right is 1800s century romantic nationalism, the one that made the multiethnic empires of Austria-Hungary and Russia crash after WW-1

>taking care of your own people means you're a communist
>you must be a money-hungry kike pupped to be a true nationalist!

The alt-right doesn't exist and if you think it does you're a fucking idiot who's drank the kool-aid.

What's the alt white then?

So then what's with all the self proclaimed alt righter's? And there is a lot of them.

Idiots and shills. The alt-right is a term made up to blanket label internet shitposting because politicians didn't know how to deal with it.

american balkanization

Alright, so what's the deal with Richard Spencer, Millennial Woes, Alternative Hypothesis, and others along with all their supporters?

i feel left wing about alot of things honestly but when it comes to immigration im far far far right

Opportunists and inserts. Spencer pops up immediately after Hillary's alt-right speech and propels himself as a leader of a made up movement. The guys CIA.

Most of them could be reasonably described as "independent right-leaning ethnophiles," the ethnophile part not necessarily meaning "ethnonationalism," but an integration/awareness of ethnoracial thinking into their policy positions.

You think Richard Spencer is CIA? Haha dude, you're delusional.

The """alt right""" is a CNN psyop designed to deligitimize the actual political movement happening in the US

except most of them actively oppose most actual right-leaning platforms, and engage in identity politics practices, which are the antithesis of individualism.

These guys get it. Read Sam Francis, OP.
>Capitalism, an economic system driven only, according to its own theory, by the accumulation of profit, is at least as much the enemy of tradition as the NAACP or communism, and those on the "right" who make a fetish of capitalism generally understand this and applaud it. The hostility of capitalism toward tradition is clear enough in its reduction of all social issues to economic ones. Moreover, like communism, capitalism is based on an essential egalitarianism that refuses to distinguish between one consumer's dollar and another. The reductionism and egalitarianism inherent in capitalism explains its destructive impact on social institutions. On the issue of immigration, capitalism is notorious for demanding cheap labor to undercut the cost of native workers.

That about sums me up too desu.

I guess he was just some citizen waiting in the wings for the alt-right to be created by Clinton so he could step up as the movements figurehead then.

right wing and left wing dont actually mean anything, the closest thing you'll ever get a coherent belief system is fight wing believes in maintaining hierarchies and left wing believes in disassembling hierarchies

>taking care of parasites that will do nothing productive
Vezi ca maine vine PSD-ul sa iti aduca orezul.

That's really the only way to maintain most leftist policies. Mass-immigration erodes social cohesion. Lack of cohesion makes it more difficult to manage a social benefit system of any sort. All the worse if the groups include under-performing cohorts. Their under-performance will inevitably be blamed on the racism and malfeasance of the country's white population, which creates further division.