Our histrory has been christianwashed

Those christian rats would have you believe that byzantine empire was a pure christian fortress that held back islam with the power of christ, meanwhile in reality it had to constantly import pagan snownigger mercenaries to keep itself barelly standing and when those snowniggers stopped coming it was begging for the closest enemy to put it out of its misery (happened to be islam). How the fuck do I know then that christcucks actually held back islam instead of just claiming credit for pagan work?

Christians would have you believe that the vikings were the last major pagan influence and that after that christians conquered pagans in a straight foward display of might and the weak pagans were never heard from again (in reality it was and is a two millenia subtle subversion proccess). Then you find a shit ton of pagan statues in the french royal gardens, and a shit ton of pagan statues with the founding fathers in US.

Prove to me that after ww1 wiped out all grown white men fucking over the generaltional chain, a war the church fully endorsed, was not christianwashed and force fed to the generation of young white boys who had no fathers to protect them, leading to us believing it as the normal and real white history?
>pro tip you cant

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Literally kek

You're right. Also Europe was Pagan until 1250AD

Pagans don't have fairytales they worship. They just use the memes, unlike Christians.

>Trying to take it out of context with the typical false dillenma of neo-pagan hippies vs christcuckery.

Glad you read my tip and resorted to bullcrap instead.

im convinced all pagans here have sub 80 IQ

Glad you read my tip and resorted to bullcrap instead.

>Europeans had pagan statues
So. Doesn't mean they weren't Christians. In the seventeenth century people here were very Christian and they still used pictures of Neptune on maps

>Glad you read my tip and resorted to bullcrap instead.
Glad you read my tip and resorted to bullcrap instead.
Supply sources to proof your claim, didn't think so.

You missed the part about them being the royal family faggot, you know the family leading by example and shit. I said prove to me you claim is true. Muh very christian, right now even varg is christian according to the church, how do I know that this wasnt the case back then, thats my question how do i know you are not repeating to me christianwashed history?

Literally what Im asking for claims made everyday by cuckstians.

our history wouldn't even have been written down if there were no Christianity. wasted.

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>You missed the part about them being the royal family faggot, you know the family leading by example and shit. I said prove to me you claim is true.
That royals were Christians? Yeah devoutness probably varied but there's no question that they were. Louis IX became a saint ffs
>Muh very christian, right now even varg is christian according to the church, how do I know that this wasnt the case back then, thats my question how do i know you are not repeating to me christianwashed history?
I don't even know what you're trying to say here.

>what is the ilyad? What are the sagas?

All of you evading the question like the christcuck rats you are.

>I can't support nor supply my claims, muh opposition.
Thought so.

So what are you doing to help your fellow pagans?

You know inequality is very problematic.

Wouldn't want to disappoint your fellow pagans would you?

Have you been to the royal gardens you stupid fuck? Those are not christian statues thats for sure.

Im trying to say that what will be recorded for future history is that varg was a christian, literally most recorded christians nowdays do not give a shit about christianity. How do I know that these arent the christianwashed records from those times with the same underhanded tactic?

>muh goverment hippy agents

Never said anything about neopagans

You want me to post christcuckery? There is plenty of that. THis isnt a pagan vs christian thread.

>Healthy
>Zeus, Hades, Poseidon, Aphrodite, Hera
>Svarog, Perun
>Thor, Baldr, Hel, Odin, Freyja
>Teutates, Belenos
>Healthy
All of them had clear issues thought. Jesus only problem was that he was a God in the body of a man, while all those tales reflect the exact opposite; Men in the roles of Gods, which they clearly shouldn't be, as imperfect as we are.

There is a tradition of the 'Strong Men of Old' and they are true. The stories of these various cultures played out, not nearly as fabulous as it may sound, but they were true heros of their days.

Christ brought a message of Love and Salvation.

To say that Christ was a weakling, is simply not true. Think of the strength of the Jewish money tenders of the day. At the Temple, surrounded by their friends.
Jesus literally walked in, and beat them all out of the temple.

The lanky vegan soyboy does not have it in him to terrify corruption.
The Lamb holding weakling that has been perpetuated is quite far from the truth. Jesus was a bad ass and he didn't allow corruption.

Speaking of incorporating other religions, Christmas being on the 25th of Dec is a consolation made to the Mythras cult, as is the Mother worship, and holy water.

Jesus' message was simple
Faith in the Heavenly Father
and promotion of the Brotherhood of Man on earth

This

Perfection incarnate.

Answer the question

>token watered down alpha moment of the biggest soyboy ever.

Answer the question

>Have you been to the royal gardens you stupid fuck? Those are not christian statues thats for sure.
What kind of idiot are you. Those statues are not evidence they were pagans. You can find lots of pagan statues in the Vatican. And as I already explained, pictures of Greco-Roman gods were still used in books and shit in my country in the seventeenth century and I can assure you they weren't pagans
>Im trying to say that what will be recorded for future history is that varg was a christian
Doubt it
>How do I know that these arent the christianwashed records from those times with the same underhanded tactic?
Well again, not everyone was devout. Probably some agnostics, deists and atheists among them. But you have no evidence that many were pagans. There were no pagan temples or priests in Renaissance Europe

Martin Luther tried to warn everyone about the jews: youtube.com/watch?v=_npDo0HpKZc

The guy's dying, give Him a break.
Also, Christians never took the credits for those.
Unlike pagans, however, they considered them more of moral tales rather than established history/mythology.

I did, you just failed to read it.

There were genetic upliftings that occured around 35,000 years ago.
In Babylon the god Marduk was a perpetuation of the Adam legend, the son-of-God idea, the connecting link between man and God. Following the appearance of Adam on earth, so-called sons of God were common among the world races.

The Alawites, and muslims held traditions of Djinn, these were the planetary staff that were on the planet. The default of Adam and Eve caused a falling of these staff members, which were manifest as demons and monsters.
These stories of battles of the Strong men of Ancient times are those stories.

Your veil of ignorance will not budge, and I'm ok with that.

Search varangian mercenaries, palais-royal gardens, apotheosis of washington

Amazing how pagans always espouse antichristianity, while also being fascistic, yet much more often than not are the biggest degenerates.

NOTHING IS EVIDENCE LALALALA

>our history
>our

Fuck off, muslim.

What in the fuck are you talking about? The question is how do I know that the history is not christianwashed?

Im asking you how is it that christians claim they just went to war with pagans and defeated them and they were never heard from again, when your precious christian fortress was filled with pagans acting as the mercenary soldiers of this fortress. That shit is christianwashing and Im asking you to prove it wrong.

>Because they liked pagan statues it must mean that they were pagans even though I have no direct evidence
Don't be a conspiracy idiot and actually give me some evidence.
>in b4 statues
What makes you think that because they liked Greco-Roman art that means that they were pagans

Yea, take your false dillenma of hippies vs neocons somewhere else.

NOTHIGN IS EVIDENCE LALALALA GIVE SOME EVIDENCE LALAALALALA

OP has a point, in that there were a lot of Byzantine scholars calling for a return to paganism, even more so when the Byzantine Empire fell, they argued that it was the weakness of Christianity that caused it. The first "neopagans" popped up in the west in the 15th century. Moreover, plenty of pagan deities were being worshiped outright in Scandinavia and the Celtic lands until the late 19th century. But of course, everyone was still heavily influenced by Christianity.

>Those christian rats
Stopped reading after that. Sup Forums is a Christian board and your shilling what change that. More importantly, it won't change the fact that you're a vile apathetic hedonist that hides his lack of strive for self-improvement and salvation of your people/nation under the mask of "science" in real life, "muh based obin" on an anonymous website often used for porn, that you probably waste most of your free time on.
Sage.

>"Muh statues means they were pagans"
>"What do you mean that isn't evidence? Reeee"
Go to Vatican City, look at some pagan statues there, realise that the pope lived there and he wasn't a pagan
Then kys

>Search my claims for me
>Pic related.

Right, how do I know that old shit wasnt protected by someone who believed in these statues more than the old shit just like the case of byzantium?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemistus_Pletho

Here's a start.

>But of course, everyone was still heavily influenced by Christianity
The meaning of christianwashed. Everything is 100% christian but wait! not its not, just some of it was with overall negative results.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemistus_Pletho
Interesting, but clearly an exception. Although of course not every Christian was devout and there were some heretics and mystics.

Because you have no evidence for that and that makes it a conspiracy theory?

I agree, the essence of the west is, and forever will be, pagan. It was built on a pagan foundation both in South and North Europe. But to say that Christianity has not influenced us is absurd, though I agree that it is a mostly negative influence.

muh if you are not a cuckstian you are a degenerate hippy false dillenma again.

>Interesting, but clearly an exception

He isn't an exception, he had an entire university and followers devoted to him, but they fled the Empire and ran off to the west after the Ottomans conquered it. He isn't the only one, but it takes a bit of digging to find since it is not a subject very much studied in the west, most sources will be in Russian.

Anyway, he was not a Christian at all, he was an absolute pagan/neoplatonist. The renaissance in the west was also full of neopaganism.

Its like mixing colors and then throwing a spoon of brown color in it and say "see the color is pure 100% brown". Meanwhile the result was something that looked like dhiarea.

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And are under the age of 15.

Also fuck Catholics, the fall of Byzantine empire was Catholicuck's fault.
Papists scum are not Christians.

>Pagans don't have fairytales they worship
Go ask Iceland about elves, pagans worship literal fairytales.

>Was christianity made by jews?
>NO, it was made by Israelites
droped here, you are a dumb cunt

The Byzantine Empire hired tons of mercenaries including Turks and Franks

>Muh pure christian fortress

youtube.com/watch?v=Lm8--TwK7To

God considers non-Christians a disgrace, he calls you dogs.

A disgrace calls me a disgrace. Must be doing something right.

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>living your life, defeating your enemy and having children is unhealthy
>dying a virgin at the hands of your enemies while not fighting back is healthy

>Europe was pagan until 1250AD

Plato's ideas are literally the closest "pagan" philosophy to Biblical monotheism. Plato had more in common with Biblical monotheism than traditional Indo-European polytheism. Which is the reason why Nietzsche claimed to denounce Plato for the same reason he denounced Christianity- idealism, universal absolutes, and a "one truth" that is divine, ultimate, transcendent, and good.

Having children with your wife is healthy, for example.
Having children with animals, cucking your wife, and letting your wife fuck their shit up afterward? Not so much. This was basically Zeus' whole problem. And each and every God, in every tribalistic Pantheon ever, had these kind of degenerate behavior.
Or do you want a picture about how to worship Isis/Freyja/Aphrodite/Venus? I'll tell you how : mass public orgies. Now ain't that what civilization needs, the opportunity for women to cuck men and give birth to children that they weren't assigned, maybe some not even of their races.
>Dying a virgin
I'd prefer dying a virgin for Truth and for Man than bending the knees to tyranny, both the inner tyranny of desires and sins and the outer tyranny of Man against another. Wanting sex for the purpose of wanting sex is hedonistical and inherently negative, whatever your stance toward it is.
>Not fighting back
It wasn't necessary to fight back for the propagation of the gospels. He who fights without reason is doomed to fall from the start.

Christianity is just like islam, a foreign desert religion who both got into power into or countries by corrupt leaders and (((them))). It's no wonder most christians on Sup Forums are burgers and shitskins.

The Dutch are some of the most atheist people in Europe. No one is going to revert to natural archetypal idol worship save a few metalheads and Varg fanboys on the internet.

Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is the Lord.

>Having children with animals
When did this happen?
>And each and every God, in every tribalistic Pantheon ever, had these kind of degenerate behavior.
desu there's nothing wrong with polygamy. Every ruler since the beginning of time was polygamous. Monogamy is rather modern.
From Alexander the Great to Charlemange all cucked their wives. Making white babies is important after all.
>Or do you want a picture about how to worship Isis/Freyja/Aphrodite/Venus? I'll tell you how : mass public orgies
That's the first time I've heard of this. Care to give some sources or examples?
>Wanting sex for the purpose of wanting sex is hedonistical and inherently negative
Wanting sex for the sake of making children is inherently good. Pretty sure there is not a single account of Zeus fucking someone without making her pregnant.
>He who fights without reason is doomed to fall from the start.
>He who fights for his life is doomed
>If you kill your enemy they win

Always the degenerate hippie bullshit. Never mind the degeneracy in christianity, the basis of it is joseph, mary and her son. FUcking christian shit will never answer OP question.

>Europe wasn't Christian until 1918
You posted this thread the other week, and you were retarded then too.

>Implying the Gods in the Hellenic Faith didn't consider the Humans merely like loyal dogs
>There is nothing wrong with polygamy
If you're an uncivilized warmongering muslim, that is. A stable, long lived civilization cannot thrive on polygamy.
>Care to give some sources or examples?
Google Bacchanalia and Cult of Cybele, for one. Clearly exemplars of what a civilized cult is.
>Pretty sure there is not a single account of Zeus fucking someone without making her pregnant.
And I'm pretty sure there's no account of Jesus being a raving sex-maniac, so why are you bringing virginity into the equation?
>He who fights without reason is doomed to fall from the start.
>Implying that Jesus had the choice between living and dooming Mankin to Hell or dying and saving it
He was the only one whose sacrifice could insure redemption for Mankin and the only one through which resurrection was possible at the hand of the Father.
I would have taken my chance too. Trying to escape was futile to his objective. That's why he also stopped Peter from killing the Romans who came to arrest Him and even healed the ear off of one of the injured; because Peter was needed elsewhere, not needlessly dying in the garden where no one would have heard his gospel.
Those who fight without reason are doomed to fail from the start. Doesn't mean there's never a reason to fight. Ask Jesus Himself when he went rampaging in the Temple after the (((moneychangers)))

every knee shall and tongue shall confess that Mohammed (PBUH) is the prophet of Allah

>When did this happen?
Loki

Europe's roots are pagan, modern day pagans however a cringey retards, especially the American hippy variety.
Point is, our old pagan roots are the basis of our superior culture over shitskins, not Christianity, which is just another version of that same goat fucker fairy tale.

>Crest Fresh breath
>Muslim
>Can't even type a fac-simile of one of Jesus' most known quote without forgetting a word
Pottery

>Ask why give a shit about christianity
>Christian starts talking as you said "I give a shit about christianity"
Classic christian subversion

73 REPLIES AND OP QUESTION STILL NOT ANSWERED. JUST RAMBLING BULLSHIT AND TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT FUCK YOU KEKSTIANS.

>Waaah, Christians only start to spread their faith if you're curious about salvation, what horror!
Classic memeflag retardation

What is this

Why are you talking to me about your gospel and you bullshit as if you already proved my doubts wrong you piece of shit??

For the Christians, shitskins and heebs in this thread, none of your religions would be monotheistic, if even still in existence without the influence of Zoroastrianism on Judaism.
Judaism was polytheistic before they stole the idea of one omnipotent god from Zoroastrianism.

>Snowniggers
Someone is jealous

I dont know. more ramblings? I ASKED PROVE TO ME THAT THE PURE CHRISTIAN FORTRESS DIDNT HAVE PAGAN MERCENARIES.

What I get
>m-muh gospel
>THAT IS NO EVIDENCE LALALALALALA

Because you're not the only one in the thread?

>>Implying the Gods in the Hellenic Faith didn't consider the Humans merely like loyal dogs
I see, you are a leaf so I can't blame you, but the rest of the world does normally not fall in love with dogs and have sex with them.
>If you're an uncivilized warmongering muslim, that is
So Alexander the Great and Charlemagne were uncivilized warmongering muslims?
>Cult of Cybele
You could argue that this is not an Aryan goddess, but I searched a while and I can't find any accounts of orgies whatsoever
>Bacchanalia
Kek, who's your source? Livy?
You are probably thinking of orgia, which are completly different from modern, sexual orgies.
Also, weren't you talking about Isis/Freyja/Aphrodite/Venus?
>And I'm pretty sure there's no account of Jesus being a raving sex-maniac
Like I said, making lots of white babies is a good thing.
>>Implying that Jesus had the choice between living and dooming Mankin to Hell or dying and saving it
>a omnipotent god can't even take a sin back he himself gave the humans in the first place
>Loki
>Implying anyone worshipped Loki

And I know for a fact that all Greeks have shitskin dna in them
What is your point?

This is my thread and you arent answering the question you subversive weasel.

They did have pagan mercs.
They were recruited because they were barbarians, and would not bite off the hands that allowed them to live off in Byzantine luxury. Their greed was what the Eastern Roman Emperors were counting on, being incredibly rich themselves.

why would I be jealous? I have 2 snownigger grandparents and 1 snownigger mother, 2 mednigger grandmothers and 1 mednigger father.
Im the ultimate euronigger product.

>Le christcucks were the only ones who knew how to write
This will never stop being funny

The greek gods were degenerate man.

But it was muh pure christian fortress. Just like all of european history ever since 0 AD according to christians.

>Wiccans
>Literally worse than gypsies
>Hurr all pagans!
>Tens of thousands of christcucks do the same thing
>THEY ARE A MIJORITY AND DO NOT REPRESENT TRUE CHRISTIANITY
You fucked are no better than communists, and that makes sense, since your holy Jew on a stick was one

Oh sweet! Atheists are the new niggers!
WE WAZ KANGZ!!!!

1. This theory is pure conjecture.
2. Truth is universal and absolute; whether or not Israelites obtained the idea from Iranians or not is irrelevant. It's the truth either way.

>So Alexander the Great and Charlemagne were uncivilized warmongering muslims?
Alexander became convinced he was a God and the Carolingian Empire was separated in one big clusterfuck of smaller realms after his Son's death, under three different emperors BECAUSE he had so many wives.
>Implying God gave Man sin
What the actual fuck man, Man was created in the perfectly righteous image of Its Creator and because of that bit off more than He could chew - literally - because He believed the snake entirely.
Sin was created by the Enemy, by choice, and that actually gave Man not only the possibility to transcend the flesh, but also to discernate between righteousness and wickedness; all of which you'd know that if you read the Bible.

Pagan gods are demons

Hey OP, let's hear more about your idea that prior to World War 1 Europeans were openly anti-Christian. I'd really like a redpill on how the various churches spent over a 1000 years being irrelevant, plotting how they'll fool fatherless white boys.

Whomsoever claimed that Europe was pure, ever? Europe wasn't christian by 0 AD, but it sure as well was the dominant religion by the end of the Western Roman Empire in 476, and the most practiced religion in its entirety by the millenium. That said, there would still be pagans and heretics stamped out by local authorities for creating rituals that were unnacceptable in the eyes of the Orthodox and Catholic churches until well after the Reformation.
The Eastern Roman Empire, despite that, was still the defender of the Faith until its fall to the Ottoman Turks, and even if they embraced ancient roman traditions of engaging foederatis when the need arose, whatever their heritage was.

This
Beside, the Hebraic people might have been, as a cultural group, polytheistic, but the descendant of Abraham definitely only venerated one God as their true God nevertheless.

Sure, during the wild west days nobody gave a fuck about the annoying pastor of the town and then went to be cowboys and shiet, the mountainmen were nothing short of vikings armed with rifles instead of axes. Big mistake, they should have shot him down.

>muh gospel OP you are wrong fuck you look at what other people to prove you wrong
Cant prove the varangians wrong
>hurr-durr nobody claimed nothing it was 100% christian actually it was just the majority hahaha muh gospel