Is China a military super power now?

the Changs have a new stealth jet. 90% of it is built on stolen tech.

It's too long and too heavy to be an effective fighter.

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Those pilots have balls. I would never get in a Chinese built land vehicle, let alone a plane.

Being a super power is about force projection. Can they attack anywhere in the world at will (non-nuke)? Or are they only a real threat to their regional neighbors? Where they got the tech does not matter if they can make their own weapons and know how to use them.

>No oil, no force projection.
No still cucked by logistics and geography. One naval blockade of south china sea and they cant do shit.

Think of this as an interceptor, not a fighter. Like a stealthy MiG-25.

It is designed to be just stealthy enough from the front to hit strategic air assets like AWACS, tankers, etc. Without these assets the US is severely limited in it's ability to engage China.

It is a very smart plane to have assuming it is more stealthy and faster than it appears to be. That canard looks like a rcs nightmare and draggy to boot.

Chinks should have gone with a single large wing.

>No still cucked by logistics and geography. One naval blockade of south china sea and they cant do shit.

Chinese military strategy is about controlling the first island chain due to this reality. We should hit them now before they grow more powerful.

China will defeat the US in a pacific war

they'll take taiwan and the US will get buttfucked when they try to take it back.

Amerifats will deny this because they idiotically connect the idea of US military superiority with their own personal pride. The fact is the west is in decline, and decadent degenerate people cannot maintain global empires.

We just need to keep letting Japan build up and keep on good relations with the Indians and we will never have to worry about China. Everyone around china hates them. China is going the jew route trying to force dependents under benevolent guise. China has few real allies.

Stolen tech?! Welcome to the world of Military Intelligence.

chink leaf spotted
jeez i knew canada was riced but damn

A fascist state with 1.3 billion ant people is a threat even alone.

We are underestimating the danger in decades to come. The Japs can defend their own islands, but the South East Asian nations and the Philippines along with Indonesia would be fucked. Once the chinks have secured their surrounding waters they can look toward Siberia for resources.

Chinese hegemony in Asia is GG for white people.

>nigger or mexican has the gall to accuse me of being a chink

no i just see the writing on the wall

hypersonic missiles will turn carriers into the new battleship

Retarded. China and India already hate each other and are in a pissing contest over mountain range near Bhutan. India can hit China with nukes and vice versa and both could stand to lose some people. The closer China gets with Pakistan the more the Indians hate them. The chinks need Pakistan for their stupid force projection *cough* I mean belt road initiative. No one takes Siberia for logistical reasons. Go eat your cereal and watch some cartoons kid, grown up s are talking.

It is more difficult to locate a carrier than you would think. Throw in e-war and missile defense and I like a carrier's chances.

Think about the difficulty of a saturation attack against, say, a three carrier battle group with all attendant escorts. There are not enough missiles currently deployed in all the world to get through.

The Chinese and India are confined to border pissing matches. There is no invasion route between the two. And India is so internally divided that they will never be able to oppose Chinese expansion.

Siberia is easy to take if you border it and have sufficient airlift capability.

wishful thinking, Chang

The US has had stealth technology for 30+ years. The slants have to steal the tech to make a half-ass "stealth fighter" so yeah the writing is on the wall.

They already were

India is actually uniting under Hindu nationalism.

China has advanced SIGNIT and EW capabilities just as much as the Americans, and probably more extensive cyberwarfare capabilities too.

I understand what you mean about spotting, but the geography favours China. If they take Taiwan it bottlenecks the US response, giving them the advantage with land based AFBs going against sea based CAGs. So you'll have CAGs coming under fire from the Chinese fleet, Submarines, land based hypersonic missiles and aircraft launching anti ship missiles. It's highly doubtful they can win that kind of engagement, especially considering how overconfident the US military establishment is.

The only wishful thinking here is yours tyrone

your "stealth" technology didn't even stand up to a Serbian 1960's anti aircraft missile

China got the blueprints for the F-22 from Israeli spies

>Russians just let China have Siberia.
Sure bro. Russia is still a greater military power than China. They probably have chink bio weapons for such an event lol.

That stealth jet is probably f35 tier in terms of performance. China will not become a global superpower in the foreseeable future, however I’d be happy if it did as it would end the turbodegenerate american hegemony.

China doesn't have to go to war with USA... they just need to let the west continue to become less white. Chinese are well educated and successful in western nations, especially Canada, USA, and Australia. The chinese own a great deal of real estate, and even your own businesses cuck you out to work and provide jobs in China. China will play the waiting game as the white race continues to be cucked out of existence.

>ADVANCED, TOP-SECRET STEALTH JET
>"Made in China"

kek, think again

This is just one scenario with just two combatants. You include our allies and China is completely fucked.
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You could same the same thing about the F-twentdeath trap of hypoxia,resetting nav computers, and damage prone RAM.

Is it large enough to carry antiship missiles? I’d assume american vessels can detect stealth anyways though.

Our airforce will be autonomous soon. Chinks still way behind.

Yes it could carry anti ship or anti surface missiles

they'll be useful in BVR standoff attacks

Stealth isn't about being invisible, it's just about being harder to detect

You forget that india is western alligned and that it will be a superpower by 2020.

There are ten times more Chinese than Russians and the Chinese population centers are closer to Siberia than the Russians. The chinks are a manufacturing behemoth and could make German rearmament before the second world war look like peanuts.

A Russian soldier is worth three Chinks, but that isn't enough.

>soon

The USAF is stuck with the F-35 until 2050

the US itself probably won't even last that long at this rate

T.Chink

>india
>not a joke

c'mon finbro tell me you're not falling for that meme

India has an active communist insurgency, and it's military is absolute shit

this also Chinks have a metric ton of code slaves china can zerg rush us in cyberspace and we'd be fucked.

You have to move , feed, and supply those people. Over the harsh siberian landscape. ITs more nuanced than you think. Chinks going to fight multifront war against numbers 1-3 superpowers and their allies?

War between US and china is an unrealistic scenario anyways as they’re too economically interdependent.

Russia and China are natural allies

If China was to actually attempt to take Siberia Russia would go nuclear. I think over a long period of time they'll ally with each other and perhaps integrate.

We will have nuke delivering mini drones. You guys are stuck in the past.

It would have to carry any anti-ship missile of reasonable effectiveness externally, ruining whatever degree of stealth it has.

And stealth isn't a binary thing - it reduces the detection range. A B-2 would be detected at close enough range. Carriers have airborne early warning planes up all the time and their radar is powerful enough to detect somewhat stealthy aircraft at distance.

What made Canadians so envious and pathetic?

Chinese navy is however TINY compared to the US and their allies.

People say that, but the imperial powers before WW1 were more economically interlinked than the US and China today.

In fact people in 1910 thought the concept of great power war was ridiculous, they said very similar things. From 1850-1914 was a period almost as peaceful as 1945- today.

Chinese are like chickens. If one panics the whole group is fucked. They are known for this tactic.

Hell yeah they are! With their massive Blue Water Nav-

Why do americans get so butthurt they're a declining power?

Look out your window, is a state full of tranny worshipping degenerates, drug addled addicts and homosexual hedonists look like a winner to you?

>Russia and China are natural allies

lmao

Russia is a European empire with Asian territories.

China conceives itself as the center of the world and natural ruler of everything.

Russian and Chinese cultures are not compatible and the racial differences are staggering. They are allies of convenience against ZOG but that is not permanent. Russian nukes are China's biggest worry.

t. Di Lung

They're in the middle of a massive wave of naval construction, they're already finishing their first domestically constructed carrier.

The west is in decline and they're on the rise. At some point in the next 5-10 years they'll have surpassed us completely.

>Looks out the window of half million dollar home in Trumps America.
Feels good desu. Hows your frozen shithole?

Leaf pls

t. Jaun


canada is whiter than the US amerimutt

>China will defeat the US in a pacific war

brianlet.

The US + India + Europe + SEA resistance groups would be an excellent alliance for containing Chinese power.


>T. Zhang.

Chinks get lynched on the day of the rope. You are all foreign invaders no matter how much you try and pretend otherwise. You all deserve death.

This is partially true, however. We must reverse this decline and purge the chink infiltrators/proto-colonists from our countries or perish.

a lot better than your nigger infested shit hole

Let me know when they hit 19 carriers and unknown number of nuke subs. By that time we will be dropping tungsten telephone poles on people from space.

Well stealth doesn’t really make it harder to detect the aircraft at all. Still having some airborne antiship missiles seems smart of china. But then again old migs could already do that.

>Chinese navy is however TINY compared to the US and their allies.

They are modernizing with a quickness. And the Chinese fleet needs only to control the waters around China and project into the South China Sea. They can be small but regionally effective.

Once they learn carrier operations and build some more effective carriers and pair them with their newest destroyers you have a powerful adversary.

It's a Chink bro.

Most "Canadian" shitposters are actually Chinese.

>T.Zhang

says an amerimutt tyrone/jaun

i could prove i'm white right now

>Chinese hegemony in Asia is GG for white people.

Why would this be the case? Why should white people dominate Asia anyway? When is the last time China invaded a white country? Never

China is the historical Hegemon in Asia, we are just returning to normal.

If you're worried about the future of white people you should look at the Jews controlling your country, and their blacks and muslim pets who are killing white people daily.

it's all stolen from the ayys anyways

A large part of the soviet doctrine was about repelling chinese attacks. Russia will be superior to china in military terms for a long time.

What are nukes? You really think China will just invade Siberia with the threat of MAD looming over-head?

>Once they learn..
After they lose a war they will have the experience. They have no one with fighting experience.

Not a superpower but they can probably defend their shores against a US naval attack with a high probability of success. Thats more than most nations can claim.

US navy has its own projects which are quite advanced.

>jaun
>gook grammar

Jajaja ay dios mio

Do it.

The state of education in Canada

This.

Of course I’m kidding. The indian army however isn’t significantly worse than china’s, and I could see them beating china in a ww3 scenario, as china would have to spread around its forces.

> We will have nuke delivering mini drones. You guys are stuck in the past.
Well it's not mini, but we do have a stealth bomber drone.

>The only wishful thinking here is yours tyrone
>your "stealth" technology didn't even stand up to a Serbian 1960's anti aircraft missile

The jet was vulnerable at the time because the bomb bay door was open.

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>US navy has its own projects which are quite advanced

Yes. Sex changes.

Be a fucking Leaf
>us

I do not believe that China, given the opportunity, would not continue to expand throughout the world.

Agreed on the Jews.

>A large part of the soviet doctrine was about repelling chinese attacks. Russia will be superior to china in military terms for a long time.

If China decides to build a military capable of defeating Russia, they could do so before Russia could counter.

>What are nukes? You really think China will just invade Siberia with the threat of MAD looming over-head?

If I'm a chink military planner I am developing precisely accurate ballistic missiles to first strike the Russian delivery systems and nullify their advantage.

>After they lose a war they will have the experience. They have no one with fighting experience.

In a high tech air-sea battle nobody has experience. Shooting sandniggers and flying unopposed for a quarter century isn't relevant experience.

what is that? Like an f22 fucked a eurofighter.

like it or not we're vassals of the american empire

we're all on the same team

no, since they don't want to be one, world police is a stupid expensive job that shouldn't exist

Ww1 did have some early warning signs already in 1905. I somewhat doubt that the same level of dependence was between superpowers as is now. Or did the germans manuafacture all their cars in france?

Team implies equality, vassal.

lel, fucking retard doesn't know what a carrier group is or how it's deployed.

Probably doesn't even know what a destroyer screen is.

china makes stuff and marches its soldiers around but it has no ability to wage a war for any real length of time because they aren't able to manage the logistics in a quick and efficient manner.

>green tinge
you have to go back, abdul.

>Americans
>Declining Power

Fuck off, the US isnt in decline. Everyone has been saying it since WW2 but they just keep getting stronger. Its always the shittiest nations that bitch about the US and claim they are on the brink of falling apart

You Eskimo niggers can fuck right off

The chinese don't work like the americans, they don't have the same ambitions, they just want to dominate other asians not the world.

>no, since they don't want to be one, world police is a stupid expensive job that shouldn't exist

Tribute is the historical solution to this.

Jesus you have even more hubris than that ”canadian”.

Import and export were at their highest level

French were using German goods and Germans were wearing british cotton. There was actually a study done on this. Plus you have to consider how close France, UK and Germany were to each other.

There were tensions in 1905, but couldn't we say there are tensions in 2018 today too? Especially in Syria.

>The chinese don't work like the americans, they don't have the same ambitions, they just want to dominate other asians not the world.

They've never had the opportunity to control the world. They have always tried to control everything they could reach.

>No time stamp.

Nice Google image search picture, chink.

I'll slow roast you yellow goblins in the oven on the day of the rope.

F35 is not really a fighter so much as a mini AWAC. AESA and sensor fusion suite are designed to map and threat assess battlefield in real time for a whole group of other aircraft. F35 is your long distance missle launcher/threat detector/enemy radar messer-upper, F22 is your fighter to fighter engagement tool should enemy aircraft, and bombers are for land based targets. The F35 wasn't really designed as a a "fighter" in the truest sense of the word.

Says the vassal of Israel lmao

The J-20 is a LO (Low Observable) design. Using outside assessments and making a few of my own predictions from what little is out there on the J-20, most agree that the J-20 is “medium” stealthy in the mid to higher frequencies (acquisition and fire control radars mostly) and from front aspects only.

Visually, the J-20 does have some stealth faux pas. The tail section and engine nozzles appear to have little to no LO treatments or shaping. From a tail aspect, it almost appears that the Chinese have just given up on stealth altogether.
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When you steal tech but don't fully understand it.

Chens BTFO

>Those pilots have balls. I would never get in a Chinese built land vehicle, let alone a plane.

He says from his Chinese built computer sitting on his Chinese built chair

The chinese economic growth is slowing down and they only have one carrier as of now. I just don’t see them becoming a marine power.

Nigger china uses tanks and apcs from the 60s, aircraft from the 60s, depends on old soviet equipment and buying equipment from Russia, the HQ-9 is a fucking joke, they just recently stopped needing buy the S300 for its destroyers etc.
China is a fucking joke, Russia has frigates that are more powerful then Chinese destroyers. Compared to the USA it isn't even fucking close.
Now take your airforce composed of hundreds of Mig-21s and fuck off Chink.

China has never expanded beyond its immediate vicinity, its you whites that wage war overseas

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its a slow crawl over thousands of years