Welcome to the Mars Independent General. This thread is dedicated to the discussion of creating a European Colony on Mars, not by direct funding, but through the commercial emigration scheme that will eventually come into play. This is real. This is going to happen. We need you to consider the choice. Mars Aeternum.
The first Mars Colony is predicted to be established as early as 7 years from now. Very quickly the colony is going to expand, and Elon Musk has made it clear that commercial emigration will come in to play only a few years later. This means the first large influx of settlers over the next 50 years are going to be families who sell their properties on Earth for the ticket. Only people who can afford to move there will be able to. lets face it - a majority european colony on mars is the only way to truly secure the 14 words. >Plan: /mig/ is a new general and a work in progress. feel free to contribute ideas. Essentially, once the colonisation effort becomes commercial, we need to move there.
/mig/ >inb4 space is fake kys >inb4 muh economics kys >inb4 STOP LARPING the short term goal of this general is to simply re-inspire our fellow Nationalists, Fascists & Racialists on the subject of space exploration & colonisation. We hope to promote a new positive attitude towards life on Mars amongst those who value the future of the European peoples. ./The general will be posted a few times a week or a few times a day.
This is definitely not about abandoning the problems we have here on Earth, we believe that the European peoples are not only strong enough to overcome those problems, but are able to dedicate themselves on multiple fronts, Mars is that other front.
>Moon Machines PART 1, a Science Channel documentary miniseries consisting of six episodes documenting the engineering challenges of the Apollo Program to land a man on the Moon. youtube.com/watch?v=o39UlJlMce8
>When We Left The Earth PART 1, a documentary miniseries consisting of six episodes documenting American human spaceflight, spanning from the first Mercury flights through the Gemini program to the Apollo moon landings, the Space Shuttle, and the construction of the International Space Station youtube.com/watch?v=TVzbVmv8NhY
>"Hey! how about you start smaller by colonizing Antarctica!" Antarctica is a less hospitable climate than Mars, and much less hospitable than an orbital colony. The huge enduring problem with living in Antarctica is the pervasive cold. It's hard to keep warm, when the thick atmosphere is constantly robbing you of heat. The fact that you spend six months at a time in the darkness of night doesn't exactly help either. A Martian colony has to deal with a much thinner atmosphere and consequently much less thermal insulation is required. An orbital colony doesn't even have to deal with that.
Ethan Bell
any good video game about mars or space in general
Carter Myers
too bad the first person to set a foot in mars is going to be a minority
Dylan Moore
a few interesting words in regards to business opportunities on Mars >Water Purification/Production Besides oxygen, of course, the only thing that will be more important on Mars than food will be clean drinking water. Scientists believe that there is water on Mars; however, they are not sure if it’s drinkable. Consequently, if there is water on Mars, someone will need to purify and make it suitable for consumption. If there is no water on Mars, then some really smart people will figure out a cost-effective way to produce H2O from hydrogen and oxygen. Either way, water will be big business on Mars. >Hospitality and Entertainment Nobody likes to eat or stay at home all the time, so there will be a need for entertainment, hotels, and restaurants of all kinds. If tourism to Mars ever becomes popular (and I think it will,) the need for hospitality and entertainment providers will be huge. As with all other things on Mars, eating out or taking a vacation will probably be expensive. Therefore, for those savvy chefs, hoteliers, and producers that get in on the ground floor, there will absolutely be plenty of money to be made in these industries. >Construction/Infrastructure Depending on the environmental concerns and requirements settlers face when they arrive on Mars, it’s hard to tell how construction and infrastructure will need to be approached. One this is certain, though, and that is people will need places to live and work as well as other necessities such as bridges, walkways, and streets (or something similar to streets.)
In the beginning, governments or authorities may handle initial construction projects. Still, I don’t think it will be long thereafter that the private sector will be doing most of the building. Building homes, condos and whatever else on Mars will be expensive and possibly dangerous. Therefore, expect contractors — big and small — to earn good livings in this field.
Nicholas Young
>another cut from a different article there are many potential near-term business opportunities connected with human missions to Mars with significant potential markets for the associated technologies and capabilities required for creating a sustainable human presence on the surface of Mars. These include innovations in life support, agriculture, radiation shielding, energy, on-site resource utilization (aka living off the land), filtration, and many other necessary technologies and capabilities. Many of these technologies would not require the massive level of investment for development that large mission elements like heavy-lift rockets, crew vehicles, propulsion, and habitats require. With the proper stimulus and the necessary entrepreneurial innovators, these technologies could be developed in a competitive manner, and they also likely will have application to improving life on Earth and therefore also have a significant market on Earth—thus making them particularly attractive to entrepreneurs, small businesses, and others.
>more Whether humans reach Mars through a government effort, a commercial model, or a combination of the two, there are remarkable opportunities that will accompany that journey. These opportunities are not only for discovery but also for innovators, entrepreneurs, and others to create new or better products that contribute to the sustainability of humans on Mars and also benefit people on the planet Earth.
Blake Sanchez
>more While cosmonauts and astronauts are learning valuable spacefaring skills on the International Space Station — and the U.S. is using virtual reality to train scientists — the majority of work to prepare for interplanetary expeditions is being done on Earth...and where best to field-test equipment and people for the journey to Mars but on some of the planet's most forbidding spots. Seen from space, the Dhofar Desert is a flat, brown expanse. Few animals or plants survive in the desert expanses of the Arabian Peninsula, where temperatures can top 125 degrees Fahrenheit, or 51 degrees Celsius. On the eastern edge of a seemingly endless dune is the Oman Mars Base: a giant 2.4-ton inflated habitat surrounded by shipping containers turned into labs and crew quarters. There are no airlocks. The desert's surface resembles Mars so much, it's hard to tell the difference, the types of geomorphology, all the structures, the salt domes, the riverbeds, the wadis, it parallels a lot of what we see on Mars.
Scientists from across the world sent ideas for experiments such as testing a new spacesuit called Aouda, the cutting-edge spacesuit, weighing about 50 kilograms (110 pounds), is called a "personal spaceship" because one can breathe, eat and do hard science inside it. The suit's visor displays maps, communications and sensor data. A blue piece of foam in front of the chin can be used to wipe your nose and mouth.
Andrew Bennett
>Something to consider, for your or your children's future there will be a huge demand for engineers, medical experts, management "officers" and any sort of cross between those and other fields. So people with that kind of background could secure themselves a bright future on Mars.
Tyler Nelson
Red Faction, Astroneer, Surviving Mars, Alien Isolation... to name a few
Luke Diaz
got any facts to back up that statement ?
Henry Davis
Just be sure and dip yourselves in butter and wear a bacon suit
Jack Sanders
Wont do it without Methane.
Jeremiah Morris
some interesting talking points from past threads >We'll need to use visual identification methods if we don't want to waste 30 minutes trying to find our partners. Maybe the easiest way to do that would be sensors that identify who you are approaching and display their information inside your helmet on the visor.
>what about the medical complications when it comes to low gravity, such as giving birth in those conditions ? As for as I can tell, we don't know for sure the complications of giving birth on Mars. The first settlers will probably experiment on smaller mammals before deciding its safe, and even then.. there is no guarantee. Maybe future Martians will be grown in science labs instead of a woman's womb. Who knows. If anyone has links to articles suggesting otherwise, please post them.
In regards to the general effects of low grav, weight lifting and constant exercise should be enough to combat them.
Connor Carter
>using rockets to fly into space
Hunter Miller
my computer cant run them any more
Michael Hall
Are you sure ? The first Red Faction is an old ps2 game... it shouldn't be too much for a computer to handle
Carson Powell
>muh secret aviation technology
Jose Adams
i mostly pirated games
Lucas Cooper
Whites are a worldwide minority.
Juan Lopez
True..... the first person on Mars really will be a white man then...
Luis Roberts
Well, if you delete some stuff your computer should have the space to run them
Ryder Cook
Hey OP I'm back What happened quick rundown?
Michael Williams
On the previous thread we were talking about architecture. I said we should settle on a Roman/American colonial architecture do you all agree?
Kayden Gray
Heyy, nothing really, just started the thread. Gonna post some comfy Mars art i've got.
William Phillips
Space fascism now!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mason Diaz
He will be white. NASA and other Western space agencies are too incompetent to bring a person to Mars by the next decade. The only Occidental company that is competent is SPACEX. also DREAM ON MARS MAN
6 months one way in a tin can, crash on Mars spend the rest of short life breathing artificial air in a tin can or filthy suit, never feel the wind or warmth of the sun on your skin, what's not to love eating freeze dried shit from a foil pouch for decades...
David Long
Hmm... I think emulating that architecture will be difficult on Mars... everything has to be built for the purpose of survival, not aesthetics. But as we become more advance I guess that will change.
Michael Myers
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Nathaniel Thompson
I remember your idea from last thread, I think a classical roman architecture would suit, and a colonial american style living should be the themes
Buildings and seats of power showing homage to our Western heritage, while wholesome, patriarchal family centered living being promoted in the home
Also, we should ask people if they want help us make a logo
MARS AETERNUM
Christopher Miller
That's what I mean. Later on when the colony advances we will look to asthetics of course.
Samuel Ortiz
>one way nope, the first cargo ships are going to be carrying everything needed to create propellent plants (amongst other things) so return trips back to earth will be possible relatively soon after the first settlers arrive. >never feel the wind or warmth of the sun on your skin well, considering what I just said, that isn't true. Ultimately, though... swapping those luxuries to embark on the greatest adventure mankind has ever been on (imo) is worth it.
Oliver Miller
Anything to escape the lunacy of the left and ensure a future for white children
Adam James
Hey Hoppebro MARS AETERNUM
Zachary Bell
>building a Colossus of Elon Musk lol
Nicholas Watson
There's no air on Mars sir, you'll be in a can or a shipping container the entire time, 6 months of this and you'll be insane, it's worse than prison
Anthony Bailey
True This should be recorded as man's greatest error. The left was so erratic in behavior that the white man got fed up and flew to Mars just to get away from lunacy. Wow that is textbook historical.
Aaron Myers
It's not an adventure if you're stuck in a can or a suit the entire time, it's just fucking awful
Anthony Edwards
Haha Wait, we should indeed build a Colossus but the monument should be whoever gets us there. (More or likely Elon musk)
Austin Hill
>American is scared to explore the new frontier >American ........
Ayden Moore
It's not an adventure when your stuck in a wooden boat crossing the Atlantic. Europeans said the same thing to the explorers whom discovered the new world. And what would've happened if those explorers yielded to public opinion?
Caleb James
Yeah britbro. Cultural Marxism and demoralization in general really took a toll on the American's explorers spirit.
Jose White
>build giant statue of Musk >future citizens rename colony Musk >colony becomes known as Muskovy >tfw colony turns into capital of regional power
tfw Musk is a Russian conspiracy
The early Puritan settlers had no idea they were planting the seeds of Americana, they were simply seeking better lives for them and their descendents
And so we too will assent to bold undertakings
Wyatt King
They didn't say that at all, plus they could breathe fresh air and eat fresh fish and shoot whales and birds for meat, on Mars you breathe recycled air and suck on pouches of reconstituted peas and sit in your can or your filthy suit freezing and dying a slow death
Nolan Clark
A terraformed Mars should be predominantly agrarian.
For strong, tireless men and women who refuse to give in to the weakness brought by the lower gravity.
Ian Taylor
It's not a frontier it's a tin can prison sentence
Wyatt Cruz
BREAKING NEWS MARS HACKED BY RUSSIA.
Yes. We should rekindle the occident's explorer spirit and we shall do a galactic lebensraum for our people
Lucas Adams
between step 1 & step 2 is our window of opportunity ....do you have a link to higher quality version so i can save it ?
Samuel Lewis
Are you willing to not let our peoples spread their influence across the solar system? Or would you rather live in clown world?
Bentley Lopez
>its not a frontier its a 2 week journey on a boat just to get constantly harassed by indians in a foreign land for the rest of your life
Take me with you to Mars I'm done with this fucking world
Owen Ward
No one ever said that, it's a false analogy
Austin Watson
I'm having difficulty finding this particular one in good quality, maybe this one will look better
Kevin Lewis
There are no other planets to go. Earth is a container and we are inside. We are being grown and harvestes.
Space is a lie.
Realise we are not our bodies. But Spirit trapped. The only way to escape is by Transmuting our Consciousness, by Remembering our Origin. We are Uncreated Spirit from a realm beyond this one.
Nathaniel Roberts
>BLUERRRGHHHH SPACE IS FAKE >HHHNNNGGGGG ELON IS A CONMAN >DERRRRMMMMM TESLA EMPLOYEES ARE SCAM ARTISTS
did i do the meme right ? lol.
Dylan Adams
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Kevin Sanchez
see
Michael Martin
Unironically this
Ian Wood
Yes you did it right this guy also did the same idiocy
Aaron Rodriguez
Of course krautbro we will take you with us.
Noah Anderson
I don't like our clown world , but I enjoy the warm sun and fresh air and fresh food all of which won't exist on Mars except artificially, move to Antarctica if clown world is not base enough for you, it's the same temp and no niggers but with fresh air and penguin meat and you don't need to leave our orbit to get there
Adrian Harris
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Anthony Gray
:)
Lincoln Lopez
one day
Easton Bailey
See and read it all
Jace Sanchez
*squints* how comes its so small ? Got a link ? I'll have a look myself
Ian Foster
I google searched the image to find higher quality versions but they all seem to be shitty, I don't usually have such difficulty, maybe it was shit definition to start with
Ian Martin
A German would leave Earth to escape all the cuckery in his country to a barren cold planet to settle.
I fucking love this timeline
Juan Evans
No.
Justin Russell
Comrade, should we start fleshing out our Martian identity?
Should we start with iconography? a symbol? Do we have anyone who can scrap up a flag idea?
John Hernandez
Why you NOT building digging ship?
>Rocket landingdrill. >Industrial scale bore holes. >?For further atmospheric condition.
Thomas Taylor
>Normie meme >Didn't read OP's post about the thread
Not sure if brainlet, shill or troll, or all three.
Jayden Kelly
Demoralising kike
Oliver Hill
I got an idea. We should combine Roman symbolism mixed in with colonial America. Our flag would have a roman eagle with bright blue colors and fasces or course.
Thx ausbro In fact we shall bring Aussie banter with us on the Mars colony. >Tfw SHITPOSTING on a /Mars/ forum on mars.
Jacob White
Its NOT an eagle. >Its a Falcon.
Jonathan Rogers
Of course he has, he listens to the Oracleonline.
Christopher Jones
I've always adored the Colonial America flag, is there any way we can pay homage to it?
Caleb Walker
No. Since Mars is part of Roman mythology we should put a Roman eagle.
Camden Sullivan
>spherical object representing mars >eagle clutching torch (represents lighting the way forward) & Hammer (represents building a new world) in borth its wings, and in its claws, clutching a rocket (representing how we travel to Mars)
Gabriel Ramirez
Yes that's what I meant. Mars is part of Roman mythology. Checked Paying homage to colonial America is good in order to symbolize the humble and difficult beginning of a superpower.
Christopher Baker
>boo hoo it wont be comfy like the computer chair in my mommys basement!
I guess the european ships shouldnt have sailed to the new world, and the pioneers shouldnt have moved west in thier wagons either huh?
Levi Phillips
Yes that's great! We should also as hoppebro said pay homage to colonial america in a subtle way.
Evan Nguyen
Really bitch-tits? You think sailing on a 16th century ship was comfy? They ate hard-tack and rancid salt-pork while thier teeth fell out from scurvy and thier skin crawled with lice. They drank stagnant slimy water and spent weeks at a time cooped up in the mildewey dank shithole that was life belowdecks. Read a goddamned history book faggot.
Jayden Ortiz
>Bitch tits Kek
Jose Harris
your mentioning of sailing in the 16th and 17th centuries got me thinking of how horrible it would've been on those voyages, I imagine a soyboy would claim PTSD after living just a day having to use salt water to bathe and lifting hundreds of pounds of rope and fish nets a day
Asher Young
Oh God all mighty. Imagine how a soyboy would be going from Earth to Mars? WAHHHHH MUH PTSD ITS ANUDDA SCURVY.
Blake Rodriguez
Its south american. Falcon is the east {Europe/Africa} Eagle and Falcon will fight a great war user/.
Brandon Clark
Martian-red flag with a big ol' Mars symbol (aka the male symbol) slapped onto it in white will do
Eli Bell
I'll start a liquid helium/nitrogen plant and save any spare each month to start creating a fuel reserve.
Adam Morgan
*echoes of feminists screaming about patriarchy in distance*
perfect
Jacob Martinez
I paying homage to an eagle because the Roman flag had an eagle on it as Aquila.
