Venezuela is the perfect example of what happens when Capitalism takes over a country, improves it economically for the few, and then Socialism fights for the rights of the many.
This documentary illustrates the cause and effect of Capitalism and Socialism on humanity.
Both Capitalism and Socialism are right, which makes both economic systems wrong.
Capitalism is responsible for humanity's technological and intellectual evolution that increases an individual's life on Earth and makes it much easier to live. Without Capitalism, the world would have remained as it was before the earliest Ancient Greek cultures developed. (Not sure if that wouldn't have been a good thing.) Capitalism caused the rise of Ancient Greece, then of the Great Roman Empire, and eventually of the United States of America.
Capitalism is also responsible for economic class distinctions and concentrated social power, where the few dominate and control the majority. This led to the fall of Ancient Greece, the fall of the Great Roman Empire, and will lead to the fall of the United States of America.
Socialist revolutions contributed to the fall of these great cultures. This excerpt from the documentary, given by one of the members of the documentary's expert panel, explains this perfectly:
"[Some of Venezuela's leaders] tried to create socialist revolution. And that led these people to destroy the whole business apparatus of the country."
In this profound documentary, The Battle for Venezuela, a clear picture is presented of the rise and fall of Venezuela. What is happening in Venezuela is exactly what happened to the Greeks and Romans.
But why isn't it happening to the U.S.A. ... yet?
The answer can be found by following the trail of money and oil.
After 1944, the world financial markets were consolidated and controlled by ONE COUNTRY: the United States of America. ALL currency, of any kind, found in the world was backed by the United States. Countries settled their international accounts in dollars that could be converted to gold at a fixed exchange rate, which was redeemable by the U.S. government. Thus, the United States was committed to backing every dollar overseas with gold, and all other currencies were pegged to the dollar. (For those who want to research this more, research the Bretton Woods Agreement.)
Blake Perez
The U.S.A. needed oil.
If a country wanted money, it needed to produce oil.
Japan was angry because its oil reserves were scarce. Japan went looking for oil in other countries. The other countries didn't want Japan to take their oil, so war began. The U.S.A. sided with the other countries that didn't want Japan to take their oil. Japan became angry with the U.S.A., because the U.S. controlled Japan's economy and financial wealth, so it bombed Pearl Harbor.
The United States controlled both the oil and all the world's financial markets. The U.S. thought it deserved the right because if not for U.S. intervention in Europe during World War II, all Europeans would have become citizens of Germany's Third Reich.
The United States of America has not fallen yet, nor will it fall, UNLESS it loses control of oil and the world financial markets.
Because of foreign investment in the U.S. (foreign companies buying American companies and land), China, which has three times as many Capitalist consumers than the U.S. does, will eventually control the markets of the world. The ONLY thing that is keeping China from immediately taking over the financial markets of the world, and consolidating and controlling them, backing these markets with the Chinese Yuan, is because Americans consume more than the Chinese consume ... for now.
William Carter
Foreign markets provide the cheapest manufacturing hubs for many of the things that Americans consume. By 2070, the United States of America will become the cheapest manufacturing hub for the things that foreign markets consume. Americans demand jobs. They'll get their jobs ... in the manufacturing sector for exports, working for foreign-owned companies.
It is not the manufacturing powers that control the world, it is the consumer powers. There are only around 300 million American consumers. There are almost four times as many Chinese consumers. There are just as many Indian consumers (from India) as there are Chinese consumers.
All of Europe's consumers combined with U.S. consumers are not as many as China's or India's.
If not for American and European military strength, the fall of the United States and Europe would occur much sooner than 2070. But it isn't going to be China or India that takes down the U.S..
Terrorists groups don't have a problem, yet, with China or India. Terrorists groups hate America.
Before 2070, these terrorists groups, that hate the "whore" America, will have access to crude, but still nuclear, weapons. "These shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire."
Carson Rodriguez
One of us warned the world as the Great Roman Empire was about to fall. Since this one wanted to preserve his words so they wouldn't be erased and discarded by unscrupulous leaders, he wrote in symbolism:
"The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth."
The same one who wrote these words has also calculated when "the words of God shall be fulfilled." That's why we know the fall of the United States of America will occur sometime before, but no later than 2070.
We didn't learn a thing from the rise and fall of the Greek and Roman Empires.
There's only one solution that will save this world.
Bringing Capitalism and Socialism together properly to serve all of humanity.
There's only one place upon Earth where one can find out how to do this properly:
The Humanity Party®
Luke Murphy
Ironically, if the United States would embrace and incorporate THumP®'s proposals into government, it wouldn't fall and could avoid fulfilling this prophecy.
But until this Marvelous Work and a Wonder fulfills its purpose (i.e. until the words of God shall be fulfilled) the world will continue to "agree" and give itself to Capitalistic powers. The MWAW needs more time to attempt to convince people of what needs to be done to create peace and prosperity ... or deliver them to the hardness of their hearts and the blindness of their minds.
"For the time cometh, saith the Lamb of God, that I will work a great and a amarvelous work among the children of men; a bwork which shall be everlasting, either on the one hand or on the other—either to the convincing of them unto peace and life eternal, or unto the deliverance of them to the hardness of their hearts and the blindness of their minds unto their being brought down into captivity, and also into destruction, both temporally and spiritually, according to the captivity of the devil, of which I have spoken."
Hunter James
Until it falls*, Americans need to keep using their anti-depressants and opioids to escape from or disconnect from what is happening all around them in the world.
Venezuela is a strong warning of what is coming to America as it begins to fall.
If interested, watch the documentary presented with this post.
"*The whore, the United States of America, is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies."
Samuel Carter
Say it with me now THumP Trump in 2020!
Brody Jackson
and an even better "meme"
Jose Ortiz
>Capitalism is also responsible for economic class distinctions and concentrated social power, where the few dominate and control the majority >this led to the fall of Greeks, romans, and will also destroy America wut. Find me one society in history that did not have class distinctions and was not piloted by the concentrated elite Aristocracy/Oligarchy. Find me one society that did not rise and fall.
Henry Johnson
>Find me one society in history that did not have class distinctions and was not piloted by the concentrated elite Aristocracy/Oligarchy
I'm not the writer of the article and I don't know what I'm talking about, but I think the Australian aborigines could be an example.
Something's off with this... Long, drawn out influential speeches in text form that promise to provide answers to life's greatest problems. This right here, in my opinion, seems to be an invitation to a political cult and/or some form of scheme. Reader beware.
Henry Wood
you'd prefer song and dance?
Eli Baker
Nope. Also, notice the warnings of impending biblical doom. This reeks of cultist activity.
Dominic Williams
many many people turn to religion for answers. secularism just doesn't do it for them.
Dylan Ward
Listen, fella. This is obviously paid advertising. So, just pack your bags and take that bullshit outta here. Sup Forums doesn't need you.
Easton Stewart
>This is obviously paid advertising. pfft. all the THumP posting I've done over the past two years, and I still haven't been paid. I'll see if Chris will throw me some money.
Noah Perry
>Sup Forums doesn't need you Sup Forums needs an enema, and you know it.
Chris, huh? I'll assume this is the leader of this organization of yours. Tell me more about him. Is he charismatic? Does he give long, influential speeches? Do tell.
Sup Forums may be a filthy shithole, but even it will never give in to dumbass shills or paid advertisers like yourself. Get lost.
Joseph Howard
>I'll assume this is the leader of this organization of yours. i take it you've not heard of the Humanity Party. Chris is the spokesperson. Four others sit on the executive board. It's a legitimate, registered political party. Look into it for yourself. www.humanityparty.com
>Is he charismatic? Does he give long, influential speeches? You just described every good politician. Unfortunately, Chris will not run for office and THumP does not appoint candidates or accept funding. Anyone can run under the Humanity Party, however.
Hunter Young
>dumbass shills I'll admit my debating skills are shit and that I promote THumP a little tooo much on here. Sometimes I worry that what I'm doing is counter productive.
Brandon Ward
The thing is capitalism enhances those distinctions. It's not about your wealth, if that were the case everyone now would be happy because we all live like kings compared to the 1950s even. It's the size of the gap between the average person and the 1%, and its never been wider than when capitalism was invented.
John Gray
I did some research on Chris Nemelka. The guy is 100% cult leader material. He made a book that's supposedly "the final testament of Jesus Christ". Sorry to break your bubble, but this 'political party' of yours is on a downward spiral to becoming a cult.
Jonathan Mitchell
Respectfully, I won't dismiss your concerns. Take the proposed constitution and platform for what it is. If you think they make sense and are just, copy the ideas and make your own party. Who gives a shit? This is about eliminating poverty.
Christopher Nelson
Well well well. I also found something of interest when looking further into this "political party". Looking through the history of the board of the directors in their tumblr, i found this interesting tidbit. "Having failed to make any progress in his attempts, Nemelka was once again contacted by the group and asked to help them in the first phase of their attempt at social change. This first attempt was aimed at creating cognitive dissonance in the religious mind, to such an extent that the free will of the person would voluntarily leave religion and emotionally change into a person more conducive to humane behavior. This first phase became known as the Marvelous Work and a Wonder® (MWAW). The MWAW was and is successful at liberating many, many people from religion." It would seem like your group's aim is very disturbingly anti-religious, going as far to brainwash people out of it. Care to elaborate?
Lincoln Howard
>Care to elaborate? I've more peace of mind than I did 4 years ago.
Aaron Clark
Gotcha. This political party is a cult that aims to brainwash people out of religion and into some twisted ideology. Capping this thread.
Levi Brooks
>Capping this thread. and don't forget to share!
Brayden Sanders
Oh, i will. Don't worry. I'll share this to spread awareness of your cancerous anti-religious cult.
Jose Allen
this is the most jewish thing i have ever read.
Elijah Martinez
>free Greatest oxymoron since clean coal.
Cameron Campbell
>Greatest oxymoron since clean coal which is too bad, since we have so much fuckin' coal.
Colton Perez
>this is the most jewish thing i have ever read. oy. baka
Kayden Garcia
Fuck off with your bullshit
Kayden Roberts
I bet he doesn't even remember a day before fire water.
Ryan Thomas
Or the day after
Bazinga
Jose Jackson
>CTRL+f Rothschilds >(ding) no results If there is no discussion about the Rothschild's and the BIS there is no point in talking about making changes to any system or which system works better, none will while central banking and usury are around
Easton Murphy
>while central banking and usury are around
one should be pragmatic when it comes to socio-economic changes. do you expect to overturn the system just like that? work within the system everyone already uses.
Elijah Rodriguez
You've got to be lost and/or dumb as fuck to fall for this bullshit.
Jace Smith
"Capitalism is also responsible for economic class distinctions and concentrated social power, where the few dominate and control the majority. This led to the fall of Ancient Greece, the fall of the Great Roman Empire, and will lead to the fall of the United States of America." Wrong. Capitalism emerged in the 16th century. We have had class distinctions and concentration of economic power since long before capitalism. We will probably have it long after capitalism.
Joshua Walker
the point is private owners operating for profit. for an ancient example: "ooga booga. me find shiny rock. you gimme pussy i give you rock. ooga booga. you want hut? you pay with piece of shiny rock i let you borrow and you pay me back with extra rock. ooga."
Nicholas Sanchez
ooga booga. me anarcho capitalist pig. you no shiny rock? sucks to be you,
