Hero or villain?

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Villain

Faggot

Worse than Hitler

Well he did kill a lot of communists...

Hitler did nothing wrong

faggot

That's the point?

He was responsible for the most extreme economic expansion ever recorded. This happened while the rest of the world's economy was in shambles thanks to the Great Depression.

Between the poverty stricken year of 1924, when Lenin died, and the relatively abundant year of 1940, the cultivated area of USSR expanded by 74 percent; grain crops increased 11 percent; coal production was multiplied by 10; steel output by 18; engineering and metal industries by 150; total national income by 10; industrial output by 24; annual capital investment by 57. During the First Five-year Plan, 51 billion rubles were invested; during the Second, 114; and during the Third, 192. Factory and office workers grew from 7,300,000 to 30,800,000 and school and college students from 7,900,000 to 36,600,000. Between 1913 and 1940, oil production increased from nine to 35 million tons; coal from 29 to 164; pig iron from 4 to 15; steel from 4 to 18; machine tools from 1000 to 48,000 units, tractors from 0 to over 500,000; harvestor combines from 0 to 153,500; electrical power output from two billion kWh to 50 billion; and the value of industrial output from 11 billion rubles to more than 100 billion by 1938. If the estimated volume of total industrial production in 1913 be taken as 100, the corresponding indices for 1938 are 93.2 for France; 113.3 for England, 120 United States; 131.6 for Germany, and 908.8 for the Soviet Union.

Schuman, Frederick L. Soviet Politics. New York: A.A. Knopf, 1946, p. 212

Not to mention the fact that he liberated Europe from under the fascist boot and put an end to the holocaust.

He made several poor tactical decisions that ultimately cost them the war. Allowing many jews to escape alive.

he made some bad decisions.

killed a lot of people, but you know, he also built a lot of tractors

Very Evil man
could be the worst killer in history
him and Mao

Fair point

Hero

Funny thing is, had Finland accepted the initial Soviet demands instead of trying to pick a fight with the red army (a MONUMENTALLY stupid idea), Finland would have lost less in the end.

he was a dirty fucking commie
hardly a human at all

He backstabbed the best ally (USSR)
Germs had it coming
Stalin is the true alpha invictus

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EISENHOWER WAS A WAR CRIMINAL
WARSAW WAS A FALSE FLAG
DON'T BELIEVE THE JEWISH LIES
EIN VOLK, EIN REICH, EIN FUHRER

Ahem, scuse me sorry what I ment to say was that yeah cmon Hitler was bad but Stalin was way worse you guys.

Hero. Killed the Jewish and imperialist traitors that had infiltrated the CPSU and soviet society. Lead and guided the Russian people during their countrie's absolute peak.

They were offering the same "protection" deal that they offered to the Baltic states. We'd have half a century of communism and a big bunch of Russian subhumans in our country wanting to celebrate Soviet history. Fuck that.

Hero. He always saves the princess
Bing bing wahoo

>Smile
Patrician taste user

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Are you retarded? he was the devil incarnate you buffoon

stalin dindu nuthin

Hero. He killed millions of subhuman Slavs.

Get the FUCK OUT.

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Failure

there are degenerates on both sides, both sides folks

Don't fuck with my strawman argument dude.

Villain, hes communist trash. Fuck that fat tub of red shit

Villain.

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killed more commies then anyone else except maybe Mao. Hero.

How many millions of people did your country kill to get where it's now?

Hitler is the champion here.

Stalin did nothing wrong.

Stalin is the hero the world needs but doesn't deserve.

He was trying to do good but few accidents happened.

Agreed. Should've lived longer to match up Mao's commie killstreak.

Villain

Or turd

Hundreds of millions, at least.
Greatest hero of all time, one of the only humans capable of standing up to the Jew.

retard

I am a Kiso man myself.

He was the greatest leader during the war. Of course Sup Forums hates him because they're edgelord Hitler cucks. The faggot destroyed Europe and then killed himself.

He purged the communist party of Jews. The reason Sup Forums doesn't like him is because they're butthurt that he defeated Hitler. The virtue signal about him being a mass murderer while defending the third reich.

You see? You tried to anime-ify him and he still looks like a soul eater (not the cool kind of soul eater from the manga btw). Pure evil.

>this adorable guy
>evil
I'd hug him.

He looks like a nice guy to me.

The problem with Neo-Communists is they believe Stalin killed millions and still support him. The
problem with Neo-Nazi's is they believe Hitler killed millions and still support him. Same bullshit
propaganda from the same western sources. Neither killed any more or less than any other world
leader at the time - Churchill was responsible for the man made famine that killed 4 million in
Bangladesh alone, by his own admission.

There's nothing wrong with killing enemies of the state. Both Stalin and Hitler ran states based upon fighting degeneracy and promoting purity.

This is silly. Of course I know Stalin killed millions... but I also know every major world leader has killed millions too. The goal is just to not be on the receiving end of that. My current existence certainly infringes on millions of people, and so does yours.

1920-1940 - villain
1945 - 1953 - hero

Communism is a plague on the earth. Anyone who rises to power using such an evil idea is among the worst humans on the planet.

Nothing makes me angrier than the idea of these blind zombies devoting their entire being to building their own destruction (and the destruction of everything around them).
Nothing is so evil as someone infected by the disease called communism.

Agreed, the problem is both sides constantly banging on about "muh millions" of victims of the opposing faction. Once you accept
the obvious - everyone does it and it's understandable, the left vs right debate loses its teeth.

He killed more commies than most men could ever dream of.

It's all virtue signalling and false outrage. Both sides don't have a problem with slaughter when their sides do it. The fact is, every successful state/empire in history has engaged in genocide in one form or another.

>Nothing makes me angrier than the idea of these blind zombies devoting their entire being to building their own destruction
Wonder which areas are the ones importing millions of invaders to destroy European civilization? The post-commie areas, or the capitalist areas? Hmmmm...

Villain

The west is infected with communist ideas.

That's literally the entire cause of all the problems we're having.
I hate these idiots with such passion.

f ace less sergons aremd with la azets cudty odut douddr imagin ations

>communist ideas
>which literally no communist nation has ever practiced

What are you high on? Yeah, sure, a bunch of Western leftists who fancy themselves communists support multiculturalism and white genocide, but the vast majority of the people supporting these ideas are liberals, social democrats, and self-interested conservatives.

Post modernism and western leftism =/= soviet communism

Exactly.

>Post modernism and western leftism =/= soviet communism

Soviet communism wasn't real communism either.

But let me tell you something: all of these systems have the same root. This idea of subverting the powerful class. This is the goal behind multiculturalism. The particulars of the strategy they use doesn't change the fact that it is the same worthless, misguided motivation that drives both people.

>This idea of subverting the powerful class
Yep. And fascism and communism (as it has been practiced) is to subvert and destroy the powerful class... jewish finance capital and the capitalism system as a whole.

Obviously a hero.

>jewish finance capital and the capitalism system as a whole.

I'm not particularly a fan of fascism, but fascism is different in that it draws the line around a race of people and says : We want to create a society that will benefit this race. Under fascism, the jews need to be expelled because they are competing with the white race... not because they are powerful.

It doesn't say power is bad. It doesn't say powerful people are bad... communism says that..... This is a self destructive idea.

>It doesn't say powerful people are bad... communism says that.....
No normal communist thinks that. No communist nation has ever embraced that viewpoint.

You are like one of those "not real communism" faggots, but right wing.
>but fascism is different in that it draws the line around a race of people and says : We want to create a society that will benefit this race
And communism was effectively that, just for the Slavic and Chinese races.

>was effectively that

I'm talking about the idea.
I'm talking about people who hold this toxic idea in their head.

You're talking about the way a country that called itself communist effectively worked. Do you see that we're talking about different things?

>No normal communist thinks that. No communist nation has ever embraced that viewpoint.
People do. That's the whole philisophical foundation. You want to take power away from the powerful and distribute it equally across everybody so that no man is above the other.... and everybody is of the same social class.

BETTER BLACK THAN KULAK!!!

Killed the Soviet Jews like Trotsky. He was like Hitler if Hitler had a triple digit IQ.

I used to like Hitler until I found out the Holocaust didn't happen.

We need daddy Stalin again.

>Do you see that we're talking about different things?
Yes, which is why this argument is autismal. You were trying to equate Stalin with a bunch of postmodernist weirdos. I said they are not the same.

>"he looks like a soul eater"
Are liberals really this fucking upset just by the image of Stalin?

Fascism is capitalism in decay. Fascism IS capitalism. Hitler was pro business, pro- exploitation, pro-usury, pro-private property.

I'm saying he rose to power on that IDEA. That is the idea behind communism. And that's what stalin used to rise to power... and thus had a hand in spreading it.

I'm not saying he believed it himself.

After the Night of Long Knives the nazis basically lost all of their ideological merit. The revolutionary socialist faction of the party was eliminated because the Western Powers would intervene if the Nazi takeover looked too much like a social revolution. Then all those socialist elements were replaced by a bunch of conservatives, and pretty much the only ideology left was "kill slavs and jews".

If he spread it so much, why is the overwhelming majority in formerly communist countries racist as all hell?

You're a dumb faggot who doesn't know the first thing about fascist theory.

Stalin like Mao had such an unfathomable indifference towards human life its astonishing. objectively evil, killed tens of millions and Hitler wouldn't even make the top 10 list of "most evil"

I know more about fascist theory than you will ever learn in your stupid pathetic life of yours.

>If he spread it so much, why is the overwhelming majority in formerly communist countries racist as all hell?
Probably because in those countries there wasn't a notion of "whites as the upperclass" when communism was at its height.

I bet you learned that in US History class in HS, keep on repeating that liberal propaganda you good goy.

Bullshit. Read something other than books relating to Marxism. One of the fathers of fascism was an anarcho syndicalist named Georges Sorel. They also took a lot from Pierre Joseph Proudhon. Actual fascists hate capitalism just as much as communists do, just for different reasons.

Stalin personally murdered 100000 trillion people, using nothing but his bare hands.

>Actual fascists hate capitalism
Are you saying Nazi Germany wasn't real fascism?

Hero.

>jews are people

It was a variant of fascism but not fascism in it's ideal form.

He killed khokhols. He is a hero

Fascism is absolutely capitalism. ALL the key characteristics of capitalism are still present in fascism.

is there seriously a person alive who thinks this guy was anything other than an absolute monster?

>killed tens of millions
Tens gorillions, actually.

Kek

How do you define fascism?

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Stalin and Chuck Norris had butt sex without it being gay once.