Work is gay Sup Forums

work is gay Sup Forums

fuck you

go back to the gulag

Nonononononono
It's Kill your local mailman
And read siege

>its another your mom will die in her sleep thread
brilliant.

arbeit macht frei

Idle hands lead to aggression against they neighbor.

>Buckminster Fuller
>communist

he said a correct thing i don't give a shit what he did in the other 99.9% of his time he wasn't saying the brilliant life-changing shit i just quoted

Or just play Siege. It's a comfy game.

"work" as in making money for a boss is fucking dumb
"work" like working to be good at something or to make art or whatever is good work. engaging in labor specifically to earn money is soulkilling

Real question: Do you kids actually believe that it is possible for the people of today to organize society in such a way that most people won't have to work?
If so, what would the standard of living be?
For how many people?
How do you quantify each person's needs without getting abused?
Who would be assigned to work while others don't?
How would you prevent the eventual uprising of this forced labour class that you've created?
Or do you believe you can just have magical self maintenance-providing robots to do it all?
Why live if you can't achieve anything? Isn't that just death?

I understand the immediate appeal of staying home and doing nothing, trust me I really do, but in the long run you're just gonna kill yourself. That's ignoring the impossible logistics.

This is being pushed to make the country broke and the people stupid and lazy
What ends up happening is the country goes so broke they can't pay a military.
then they can't pay police
then they can't pay the welfare checks and food stamps
food and housing prices sky rocket
people protest and crime goes through the roof
then they (government) says martial law needed.
but no police or military money
must call in UN
UN says must accept world government for their help
UN says capitalism doesn't work
new dictatorship government formed
USA, Canada and every other country that fell for the "no work" meme is now part of the new world order with UN niggers as their police.
All countries that fell for it are now literal dictatorship shitholes and all rights of citizens are long gone.

>engaging in labor specifically to earn money is soulkilling

Spoken like a man who never had to repair a broken faucet, cut cords of wood for the winter or freeze your fingers off trying to get one shot at one animal with hopes to feed you through the next months.

You say you want to build a life for yourself but even though you have every ability to work hard enough to own your own property and work for yourself, you choose not to.

Because you're just too fucking comfortable not doing any work at all and just sucking government teat.

If there are solar powered drones doing everything, why would you need to work?

>Real question: Do you kids actually believe that it is possible for the people of today to organize society in such a way that most people won't have to work?
let me tell you about these things called AI and automation. in 2018 we have AI giving better advice than human onocologists.
>If so, what would the standard of living be?
i'd imagine higher than now. how could it be worse than what we have now?
>For how many people?
100% of humans
>How do you quantify each person's needs without getting abused?
guaranteed basic income, healthcare is a right, i don't know. we know what people's needs are: food, healthcare, safety, shelter. if you want a ferrari you can go earn that shit i guess. i don't think it's possible to give everyone ferraris.
>Who would be assigned to work while others don't?
nobody will be "assigned" to anything, like any rightist you assume authoritarianism and coercion in any system that is not based on good ol free market capitalism
>How would you prevent the eventual uprising of this forced labour class that you've created?
the same way they're prevented now. bread and circuses
>Or do you believe you can just have magical self maintenance-providing robots to do it all?
i think we'll reach a point where robots will maintain themselves and not require any human input at all.
>Why live if you can't achieve anything? Isn't that just death?
if you want to achieve something, that's great. i think we all want to achieve shit. i want to be a great guitar player and i practice every day. it's just engaging in mindless drudgery to sustain an economic system that enriches very few and causes misery to all that we should maybe discourage

No shit. I've been working at walmart for over a decade and this fact is as clear as day.

Communism is a luxury
Just think about how much of a contradiction that is

is it true they bombard you with anti-union propaganda during hiring lol

>gib me dat
k

commies are gay af

The specialisation of labour is the most productive force for work. Self actualisation is to be found in self mastery, not material achievements like what you fetishise.

>work is gay Sup Forums
Only if you are a queer prostitute.

it's not realistic that 100% won't work or do anything. i guess the goal is to greatly reduce drudgery, eliminating it completely is impossible.

but people want to feel productive and do shit, no matter what. this is what i don't understand with welfare arguments or whatever -- do you really think more than like 10% of the population would really be happy with a check from the government and sitting on their ass doing absolutely nothing all day every day? you can have the most generous welfare state in the world and people are still going to want to feel useful.

"labor input is minimized" uhhhhhh. you mean unionbusting?

Yes. but let's be honest here: walmart is a giant company that's scattered and the majority of the dregs we hire aren't ones to really think about that shit, let alone be proficient in english.

I remember about 12 or 13 years ago. Some cuck was spouting one to many Ryandian platitudes in the lounge. The next day the store was filled with representatives from the Home Office in Bentonville, Arkansas, which is several states away.

Havent seen that since childhood. Another foreign looking 'american' character that makes you uneasy but you dont know why as you havent seen a jew yet.

anti-semitism is not a good thing user

>let me tell you about these things called AI and automation. in 2018 we have AI giving better advice than human onocologists.
yes but not how you think it will. brings us to your next statment
>i'd imagine higher than now. how could it be worse than what we have now?
when the AI decides that stpuid peole are easier to control than smart people, smart people being white, and asians. brings us to your next statement again
>100% of humans
no, think food shortages
The AI will choose to dispose of the smart people because they will be the ones to complain and go against the system.
then most of your next statement is irrelevant.
but lets touch on this
>guaranteed basic income
its great you get a GBI but, that doesn't help you. not if bread becomes $12 a loaf because the corporations, farmers and actual workers are being taxes to oblivion.
the housing problems that we'll have, think economic migration, millions of uneducated niggers coming to your country for free gibbs. housing prices skyrocket. now remember the AI wants the niggers to live because they are stupid and wants you to die because you are not.
>nobody will be "assigned" to anything
you are wrong there, even now people are being assigned work, even disabled people. They need to go out and apply for every job there is available, if they turn down the job no more free gibbs.
>i think we'll reach a point where robots will maintain themselves and not require any human input at all.
why would the AI want humans at all then?
would be illogical to keep us around at all.
Just live for the sake of living? get high every day and drunk and fuck? how does that improve humanity? the AI would want you gone as having zero benefit to anyone.

It's funny how more than 30% of Canadians are free gibbs right now and 80%+ of immigrants.
10% is not a realistic number. Everyone wants a long vacation.

To be frank user, that's all absolutely retarded.
The fact that you really believe we can just make self-repairing robots and have nobody work blows my mind to shreds.
You seem to think that automation and AI points towards equity, but in reality there will always be someone giving commands to AI.
Nobody would be so recklessly stupid as to create 100% autonomous learning AI, with complete access to resources and power. That's genosuicidal.
Automation ultimately consolidates the power to a small elite, the exact thing you so valiantly abhor. Whenever automation completely takes over, your motto will cease to be "Seize the means of production" and become "Seize the means of automation".
This isn't theory either, you can see the consolidation of power and resources to smaller and more cohesive groups from the 1940s to today, and this was achieved by the same people that gave you your ideology, with the means you believe will bring about the utopia.
You are severely misguided and will cause the suffering of billions.

reminds me of Windows 98
>Windows 98 home edition
- stupid OS easy to break
>Windows 98 pro edition
- fixes itself for the most part
I was a self employed CAD programmer and design engineer. (robotics engineer really)
I opened a computer shop
I want to sell windows home so I can continue to make money. If I sold pro I will make substantially less money.
I could make Machines that self correct, but I would be shooting myself in the foot.
I could use brass gaskets on fittings rather than plastic or rubber but I would lose loads of money by not needing to do maintenance.
look at cars
cars since the 80's are made to last 5 years and die
Cars before that last almost forever.
planned obsolescence.
people must consume and continue. You are not a consumer if you need not consume.
It is not hard to make a engine that will work for 100 years, look at old mazda rotary, still running smooth today , tong and grove fitting, very few gaskets very little wear and tear.
but what is in cars? engines with 60% lose due to friction causing irreparable wear and tear.