Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Communism is really unappealing, so bleh. And American Communists are smug, too. Bleh x2
Chase Allen
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Evan Adams
Go away kike.
Elijah Richardson
>muh Stalin
Jason Walker
If Communism works, then why did the CCCP fall? Give me a proper answer instead of the usual "that wasn't Communism".
Thomas Roberts
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Ian Gonzalez
internal corruption and weak leaders during the dusk of zssr. tito was a strong leader, and thanks to him communism in yugoslavia flurished
Logan Brown
fuck tea party
Charles Hernandez
the USSR wasnt real communism you tankie scum
Jonathan Perez
>reading list no, thanks, I'd rather read a back of an air freshener can while sitting on a toilet
Brody Martinez
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Jace Ward
>not real communism every fucking time
Adam Baker
Communism is just a different skin for an oligarchy. Literally the same as kingships, and national socialism. It's a fucking oligarchy claiming to be something that it isn't. For the old Kings, it was God who gave them rule. For national socialism, it was for the good of the nation that gave power to the oligarchy. For communism it is for the people that gave power to the oligarchy.
You fucking retards. Pic related.
James Hall
and yet you have the same situation with putin, like you had with commies
Juan Robinson
and anarchic capitalism is just selfish. i speak only for myself, but i am communist, because automatisation will leave minlions unemployed. also i know i need to lead the new global revolution, because i know i will not be corrupted by power and wealth
Landon Campbell
This is now a fascist aesthetics thread.
Ethan Jackson
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Easton Cooper
What's wrong with social democracy?
Kevin Moore
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Juan Cruz
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Brayden Brooks
He said aesthetics, not absolutely fuck-ugly filters making the original art look ridiculous.
Aaron Barnes
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Michael Hill
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Tyler Perez
i hate all facist, but i hate sjws more, and because of that i will propose temporary alliance
Dominic Cruz
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Isaac Edwards
reporting. greetings comrades
Ayden Howard
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Henry Perez
Better.
Luis Evans
Yeah no. We're going to be the ones throwing you faggots out of helicopters.
Parker Harris
comrade, why do we have to steal the means of production from a capitalist society? why can't us communist create our own means?
Isaac Nelson
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage 4 Nod real gommunism. Nexzt gountry :DD
Hunter Carter
Yeeeees, its beautiful.
Isaiah Davis
What are you looking forward to more, Sup Forums?
Killing in the upcoming race-war. Or killing in the upcoming commushit revolution?
Vote now!
Elijah Watson
Haven't seen this POS of a thread for so long
Alexander Harris
Based gomrade XD XD XD
Nicholas Peterson
your still here shitting up this bored with "my gobunisim" your a pathetic individual that should be exterminated like the vermin you are . Die commie scum
Samuel Turner
>Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
You could improve your argumentation immensely just by avoiding simple logical fallacies (Dogma). State it as an opinion instead of claiming it to be an objective truth.
not the guy you are replying to, but my own reason for disliking it is the huge potential for government corruption and the lack of accountability to the government's subjects
Chase Harris
Gay and die.
Isaac James
Like fascism, then. Marx's communism was voluntary and involved the dissolution of the state. Utopian, sure.
Josiah Turner
>commies fighting each other over what is communism and what isn't This is why socialism fails every single times, and yet you retard can't fucking agree on anything. For the same reasons Islam can never be united again. If only Cuck Marx gave you specifics, instead of using Jewish rhetoric, you'd finally have a stable socialist state.
Caleb Campbell
comunism fails because it kills or eliminates the highly working individuals that make society function, in any productive endeavour there are going to be people that work more and the ones that work the most need some incentive to do something
John Morales
Marx wanted society to function without having people enslaved to a wage slave system.
Nathan Hernandez
what does that have to do with anything? the problem is still the same, if everyone is equal why would anyone work more?
Xavier Clark
Who said work more? Marx wanted people to work because they wanted to.
Colton Stewart
and that's why society collapses, you need to create a surplus in case something bad happens and to have other people working in other stuff like engineering, not everyting is production
Zachary Sanchez
Marx attributed the bad things happening to the volatility of capitalism.
Kayden Diaz
But that's a problem, since nobody actually likes to work UNLESS they're driven by either a slave-master or a higher ideal. The hypothetical end of history is not powerful enough to encourage people to work for fucking nothing, especially since they would have to work for everybody else's happy end of history.
Nolan King
So a fucking hurricane or a solar flare is the problem of capitalism? That's retarded.
Hudson Perry
but it also creates the good times, it's a cycle that readjusts itself, and a disease or just depression out of being bored because you live in communism would fuck up the system
Wyatt Reyes
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Ayden Perry
Die Commie Filth
Jaxon Gomez
>internal corruption >weak leaders There are always going to be people who are corrupt. This is why communism will never work. there will always be some weak link in the chain
Nolan Cook
Gets me every time
Andrew Adams
Does communism hurt research in technology because everybody is equal and there is no incentive to innovate or does it boost technological progress?
David Roberts
bruh what about the people that farm more or the people that just are more productive, you can't have one without the other, and i don't know how much faith you put into either the government or a bunch of """""""educated"""""" fags sitting around trying to figure out the needs of people they have never met, look at college campuses right now and tell me that innovates
Jack Morales
at this point, adopting communism is like fucking a whore with every STD known to mankind. you know you're going to catch something, the only suspense is over exactly which disease you'll get.
Gavin King
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Eli Robinson
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Tyler Jones
>bUt iT WasEnt rEal cOmMunIsM every. fucking. time
Alexander Gomez
Off yourself OP
Kayden Ortiz
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Charles Reed
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Levi Harris
This copy pasta is the only reason I come to communism general
Adrian Carter
>Marx wanted society to function without having people enslaved to a wage slave system
t. irish republican
Easton Anderson
That happened because of sudden collapse of government. If you're used to living communism and now having to live under capitalism out of the blue, of course people are going to have trouble adapting to this!
Cooper Roberts
The closest thing I could think of being near "real" communism was CNT/FAI in Spain in the 1930s, but unfortunately they lost :(
Eli Scott
Automation is going to displace jobs into new areas of employment.
And also how do you know what you won't be corrupted by power. You may think you are but there are other comrades who might be easily corrupted by power and wealth. What measures are you going to take to maintain and protect your position in a communist government? How far are you willing to do in order to prevent yourself from corruption?
Kevin Murphy
Best post
Jacob Williams
Hitler wasn't real nazism/fascism
Xavier Robinson
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Logan Morris
Communism on pol is forced meme shit. Fuck off back to your coffee shops you faggot bottomfeeders.
Parker Watson
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Alexander Foster
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James Clark
>hey we all voted to seize your assets >you had just as much of a vote in this as everyone else so it's fair
