What exactly sparked the downfall of Western society?

My guess is giving women equal rights

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Yes. That’s exactly where it started. Giving rights to women also led way for cultural Marxism, and women definitely helped it on top of that.

Thats a big one but allowed a huge international finance system to effectively turn our countries into shopping malls was the last straw.

>He doesn't understand it started thousand of years ago with Judaism and Christianity.

the rise of America and the fall of the old european empires

Ultimately democracy, but giving men who are not tax paying and own land which is part of the nation the right to vote is a larger turning point.

Circumventing the whole point of Christianity by allowing Jews in our countries and letting them practice usury. That was the big misstep.

Jews.

Because that promoted more egalitarian rights which in return gave us the nightmare we have no.
>Everyone are allowed to vote!

Over a century ago, when the Jews came to America.

by the time America came to the scene, the european empires were kiked all to hell. I'm thinking the napoleonic wars could have gone another way and maybe things would be different. probably not, though.

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Slavery
If the Jews never brought coloreds over and sold them to the whites this never would have happened
Also white people would have a stronger work ethic by doing farming grunt work

WWI

The boomers

I know this will fall on deaf ears, but are the Jews really to blame for all of this? Is it too easy to use them as a scapegoat for everything and not at least consider there could be other factors?

Nope. The loss of belief in Providence. People decided to murder and depose traditional cultures with the claim that they will make them more intelligent. Everybody will have perfect knowledge and make perfect choices, elect perfect politicians etc. Well it turns out that human life isn't about certainty and you always have some form of belief, like for instance trust. The death of a monarch who was on the throne "by the grace of God" started the downfall of Europe. You just need to have some optimistic belief in Providence to conduct life and politics. Otherwise you engage in fruitless sarcasm, irony, malice and uproductive debates about who is more talented, who is better and who is more rational. In the past everything was run smooth because of belief in Providence

>Napoleon was against Jews

Nonsense.

human greed allows them to exist in the swamps of our sins. you are right, and the destruction of the church as a leading social force was their first and most successful job.

>What exactly sparked the downfall of Western society?

The fonz.

The hilarious part is that i'm not even joking.

I see what you did there mr Shekelberg

You can't deny the positive, non degenerate influence Christianity had on Europe for a while. Many great renaissance artists and culturally important European authors were Christian too.
In the long term though, Christianity has an egalitarian Jewish message in it which I guess you could had a part in sparking the downfall.

Civilization has always been in decline.

Jews

unchecked intelligence agencies, central banking, and corrupt politicians that lead us into wars and terrible policies that have killed our spark that was the american dream

Feminism, its no guess. People who say Jews deify women and will end up cucks.

Fucking this. An entire generation of European men were brought low and driven into the mud twice, and out of the ashes of what was great and beautiful became the false dichotomy of consumerism vs Bolshevism.

I fucking hate everything.

The Jews

The moment Europeans got convinced that history was an accident and not a plan of God, then they switched their interest from christianity to Revolution, which is basically suicide. You can't conduct your life without giving it some sense and goals. Look at all those atheists. Their point in life is either the Holocaust cult and a revenge on nazi goyim, or generally the destruction of the world under the pretense of equality. You think Greg Lansky lives without a purpose? He lives to pollute everything, this is his sense of life

care to elaborate?

Since the start of western civilization we have had trouble with our infinite metaphysical absolute universal racial spirit.
Unattended, it naturally develops hedonistic tendencies which is anti civilization. This has to do with all our downfalls too. Ease, liberalism and comfort.

1815. Waterloo.

World War 1

Universal suffrage is an inevitability of any democracy regardless. The system is cancer.

Anyway, if you're restricting voting rights to achieve a certain set of policies, your system is authoritarian in principle regardless

A nation needs a strong enough base on which to maintain it's balance between state and people. We have always swung between the two. Right now civilization is in decline because the ideas of freedom of man is failing is just like Reason, Enlightenment, and others did. The symptoms (suffrage, loss of national identity, wealth distribution) are merely waypoints along the decline.

I didn't say that. What I meant by that was the wars were a decisive victory for them that cemented the confidence they had in their capability to manipulate world events.

they deny god yet defy darwin

>wars were a decisive victory for them

The wars were a decisive victory for monarchs against godless republicans.

Franklin D. Roosevelt taking office during the great depression and instilling socialism to our foundation

Aleister Crowley and the Cairo/Paris workings. Crowley's entire doctrine was about reversal of natural law and going against god to find freedom. He magically empowered the dark feminine, embodied by Babalon, to take over.

Darwinism here serves only to strengthen their pre-intellectual prejudices. Darwinism has really no direct consequences, it's only used to strengthen the preexisting rage for traditional order in which people believed that history was christian God's plan

>care to elaborate?

Fonzie was the first person to use the word "Nerd" as an insult, ushering in the beginning of the anti-intelligence psyop on mainstream media.

1920 the 19th Amendment

1982 a supreme court justice deciding that anchor babies get citizenship via 14th Amendment

That actually makes some sense if you ponder it.

1913 Fed Res Act did more harm but the 1920's woman's (((suffrage))) did strike a nasty blow to the republic

French Revolution.

The west should have picked their own cotton.

This (Sorry, Europeans)

It's pretty unnatural bringing in hoards of people that never developed they type of society that they're being given. It's also unnatural allowing this to happen. They are displacing the people that built it for feelings of pretentiousness.
The whole situation pisses me off so much.

>Fonz

>Arthur Herbert Fonzarelli (better known as "Fonzie" or "The Fonz") is a fictional character played by (((Henry Winkler))) in the American sitcom Happy Days

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There are always other factors, but the only people that have been wanting Europeans to suffer and collapse are Jews. It isn't normal or natural for a people to destroy their own society intentionally. Jews have long been known to do this to people.

Boomer's idea that all their kids should go to university and become doctors, lawyers and CEOs or be considered failures.

The protestant reformation.

We're now witnessing the final stages of the relativism which began then. It is a slow but potent poison.

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>Many great renaissance artists and culturally important European authors were Christian too.
I think Europeans would have made wonderful art and wrote incredible books despite Christianity. If it were any other religion in its place Europeans would have still flourished and innovated.

The West had been accruing various harmful mutations, damaging memeplexes and general entropy ever since it began. It is true, you can trace negative, destructive tendencies within our culture from its very genesis. However, there were plenty of structures that kept those in check, all systems degenerate; the test of a civilization is how long they can buffer the decay. Women, gaining equal rights, getting the vote, resulted in many of those structures being disassemble, and rapidly accelerating the decline by removing culture checks and balances. In a whole lot of ways the civil rights movement has been about eating the seed corn of our civilization, cashing in on the distance between toil and hardship that it had benefited much of the citizenry. They threw a party and didn't care about trashing the house or cleaning it up, day has come and the house is in ruins, there is shit on the wall, the original people are leaving, new guests turning up, soon everyone will forgot what the house looked like. Vomit and semen slick floors? Wasn't the house always like that?

French Revolution

Democracy/giving most people the vote

Yes women voting and all that shit but remember it was men who voted to give women the vote

To really grasp this question we must think back and agree to when was the "perfect" time in history it is then do we really find the answer.

The Enlightenment Age with their muh freedom is more important that rigid moral values

>(((what))) sparked the (((downfall))) ?
idk

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Women's suffrage was the start of the downfall of the West. Hopefully the West won't fall and we can stop it. We can stop it if we get our women married to good men and they vote the same as their husbands.

>Emancipation of european jews by Napoleon
>Collapse of the european monarchies by (((revolutionaries/subversives)))
>Advent of the industrial revolution destroying european quality of life
>female emancipation and "right to work" (to make more money for (((Them))))
>Women voting based on emotion
>(((feminism)))
>The creation of (((international finance)))
>Germany losing both world wars
>(((international finance))) shifting into (((globalism)))
>(((mass immigration)))
>Politicians blackmailed and controlled by (((internationalist cliques)))
>Capitalism abandoning any pretense it might've had of ethical or moral values ever overriding profit
>(((libertarianism))) and (((cultural marxism))) taking a firm grip over academia and business
>(((homosexuality))), contraceptives, and abortion promoted to reduce white birth rates under the guise of reducing world population growth

It all goes back to fucking napoleon.

Bingo. Women are annihilating western civilization.

Yeah, definitely. Many prominent men in the conservation of Nordic/Germanic mythology were Christian though but it had more to do with more education and development in writing than the actual religion along with the spread of writing by the Greeks.
I'm just saying, even Evola recognized the importance of anti degeneracy Christianity had on Europe later in life despite his first book.
I would be perfectly fine with Christianity if the egalitarian teachings would be taken out.

People like Napoleon because he was le epic emperor but he was a Jacobin that fired cannons into crowds of civilians and looted Europe in the name of republicanism.

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Wrong. That was a big deal but the decline started with the usurpation of the traditional aristocracy. When the low-breed merchant scum snaked their way into positions of power.

Universal voting rights for men and women.

An autistic serb in 1914

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Soviet/Chinese communist subversion tactics.
WE LOST THE COLD WAR.

Making all jewish exiles temporary

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The acceptance of gay people.

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The Enlightenment and French revolution.

It was colonization, turns out shitskins would have never reached europe on their own.

This on the Macro perspective but the right to vote for woman was the turning point.

The rise of democracy

For people that blame women, that's retarded.
Yes, suffrage for woman was a bad idea, but it's only one of many consequences of an already degenerated and weak society.
For men to accept women suffrage they must have been already in a decadent culture.
There is something greater behind this and probably older in time.

Jews and Feminism

A fatal combination

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Niggers revolting because they lost their EBT cards.

Hitler on women

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There are numerous times throughout history when Western society fell

>Collapse of the Roman Empire
>Black Plague
>Birth of Protestantism
>French Revolution
>Industrial Revolution
>Woddrow Wilson's presidency and WW1
>The 1970s

We've always had our ups and downs

HE KILLED MILLIONS

Exactly, blaming women for the decisions of men giving them equal rights is dumb and irresponsible.