Are there any actual non-Hitlerian fascists here? Did you guys all get absorbed by NatSoc idpol?

Are there any actual non-Hitlerian fascists here? Did you guys all get absorbed by NatSoc idpol?

>Are there any actual non-Hitlerian fascists
fascism is stupid
Nazism is nationalist, that's the reason why i support it.
without it its just another outlet for sjw feminist bullshit

I think the idea of Fascism works but without a multiple successful models it's hard to really define. The majority of Sup Forums fascist are simply nazis while the rest are a split between Mussolini and Pinochet

The down side to Nazism is I fear is someone who shouldn't lead will end up leading and completely fuck it up. I know it's a very broad way to say it but easy way to sum it up.

yeah, that's because of the authoritarian element. fascism.
but it is probably the only way to remove kebab and save the world before its too late

Sure. I'm authoritarian-right but Hitler was a pussy. Dropout liberal arts student could learn a thing or two from Pinochet.

you could learn how to be a jewish puppet from pinochet, oh wait you are a burguer you already are one

I wouldn't mind living in an Authoritarian government I love order so it fits me like a glove. My fear is that even an Authoritarian government is not immune to Marxism. To play Devils advocate here, a nation is born and under Authoritarian Fascism, generations go by relatively simply till Marxism enters it, maybe latching onto the ideas of Nationalism. Then a few more generations go by but the Marxism has infected more aspects of life. We'd see SJW preeching not for equal rights for non-nationals but simply social rights, free speech, etc etc. I guess my fear can be summed up with this question. Is Fascism it self immune to Marxism. Hate it as much as you want it is an hard virus to kill.

I also understand that Pinochet delt with communist perfectly but Marxist are a whole different beast in it self.

Facsism is natsoc for jews and brown people

>Be Pinochet
>Shit on economy
>Hitler should learn a thing
You lick his boot because he killed commies. So did hitler.

a fair amount of people here are not actually /NatSoc/ but a different variation of fascism

How so? Rome was Fascist from time to time.

Are you retarded?

You can have an authoritarian government that is elected. I don't know why people can't see this. Mosley's system would be great. You have all the benefits of a strongman with a nonviolent check on him going mad.

couldn't the strongman simply start inserting his own men into the checking system to take over completely? I totally get how a elected authoritarian government can start but how it stays democratic is a stretch for me.

national socialism is a german ideology. it works for more germannic people, and would argue its good for the nords. As a Brit, I am nt natsoc, I am a British fascist and admire a lot of Mosley's ideas. Corporatism is the best financial policy.

democracy would have to end. I imagine the reigeme would run their election campaign on a slogan similar to 'the vote to end all votes'

Fuhrer, Il Duce, Franco we all good bra

That's the conclusion i came to, but one thing that always troubled me is when and how does a Fascist regime pick a successor, and if that successor is the leaders offspring does a Fascist Regime turn into a monarchy?

Your time is up pol, starting next month Sup Forums is going to cost 14.95 per month, your fucking allowance is not going to cover it, unless you suck your dad´s dick some more. good riddance

We would have been better of under a mussolini or mosley like guy.
Do you like Lee Kuan Yew?

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NAZIs aren't quintessentially fascist but they're the most interesting rendition. I think they captured the imagination of almost all civilization pre and post WW2.
There's something... "magical" about them.

There is nothing wrong with Hitlerite national socialism. A lot of the kookier shit is just a product of the state of anthropology at the time.
That said I'm a fan of Mosley.

Yo whats up, I'm a classical fascist who doesn't believe in the jewish question and thinks hitler is stupid.

>flag not made of cotton

degenerate

>.02 shekels have been deposited into your account.
Yes Goy, Teel the others that they serve me, make them think you don’t serve me.

Believe it or not most of Sup Forums works for a living.

Theyre even less pragmatic then the rather idealistic fascists which cobbled all kinds of thoughts together under a common banner and in contrast had a mostly consistent worldview that if allowed to reach full circle through three generations might have sparked a new paradigm in western society as significant as chrisitianity maybe even.

>Are there any actual non-Hitlerian fascists here
Nazism is fascism. Also kill yourself future antifa fag

>falangism

WE LIVE AND FIGHT FOR OUR VOLK! AND FOR THIS VOLK WE WILL FALL IF WE MUST!

Mussolini was a fag, Mosley was an internationalist nazbol fag, and the Romanians were irrelevant. Heil Hitler

Anyone got a big copypasta full of literature/videos for me to redpill myself on fascism?

funny you should say that because you can't shoot an idea and even though they shot a whole lot of your ancestors, we're just about now reaching that third generation you speak of...

Mosley was an internationalist in the literal sense. Cooperation between similar nations for defense against the enemy, rather than the meme of national dissolution that Marxists push.
Also you forgot to shit on the second best fascist party, the Falange.

>I wouldn't mind living in an Authoritarian government I love order
no, its nothing like that.
I've been in the army, i love structure but with authoritarian governments rarely listens to their own people
they end up becoming regressive and marxist

A nation is built with blood and steel and hard work by people who share a common set of ideas. For me the nation is something to rally behind and something worth preserving.

Damn, well put.
It seems to me to be the perfect "Third Way" in terms of Hegelian dialectics the "synthesis" of many ideologies and worldview. Some how it managed to balance human nature with technology, the mundane with the sacred, the capitalistic and the socialistic.

Some say that it was unique to the Germanic people. I'd be quite interested to see what an American form of this same paradigm would entail.

You faggots should have done your part during the war!+

"without multiple successful models"
-Syria under the Assads
-Juan Perons Argentina (a particularly good example because it fascism without antisemitism, extra strong antinormie fuel)
-Germany at every point besides the 3rd Reich and the Weimar government
etc etc

Franco was a traitor who was (((bribed))) by the British. Look it up.

Progressiveness fucking pushed me to the far right to the point where i just want a isolationist-militaristic government with a dictator that gets elected every 50 years

Thats like saying some californian hippie who visits the bhuddist center in his town represents tibetan society and mindset before its fall from isolationism and the destruction of its theocracy.

>perfect
Well they lost.
Now at the time, it was a very special blend of all that had been there before along new ideas but today the paradigm shifted again and we face different circumstances. Should the west cook up some new angry massmovement it will probably not just Natsoc 2.0.

>Theyre even less pragmatic then the rather idealistic fascists

What happens to a state when it has no natural enemies?

I am a fascist sympathizer but I think authoritarian democracy is better

>well they lost
Makes for a better story.

I blame natsocs for the fall of the west. Fascism would have likely flourished in the west and communism would have been stamped out of the world forever if it wasn't for lebensraum + concentration camps (regardless of whether or not they were real or even just intended to kill)

So it seems based on how you put it a modern authoritarian regime would fall quickly into a Marxist regime. Is there any real way for a fascist regime to appear

I know of two of them and they both are failing Assad' s syria has been in the middle of a proxy war and pre ww1 Germany (all 30 or so years of it) was destroyed by outside powers

No idea.
There are no states without enemies. Ours just pretend they dont exist and hide behind the US.

No, the dictator picks a successor he deems worthy. Mussolini, for example, picked Italo Balbo as his successor as opposed to his own son. Fascism is based off merit.

Italians didnt make a dent in the French southern front and Spain didnt even join the fight 'cept volunteers. If it wasnt for Germany, the red army would have steamrolled over you all starting in 1939. Read "Icebreaker" by Viktor Suvorov.

Its funny because Mussolini was the alpha chad and hitler the beta virgin yet Hitler was the one who commanded massive world conquering armies and mussolini commanded 1 million spoiled prissy hedonists

>Everything but race

meme related

Trying and failing is better than wallowing in apathy until it's too late to try.

It takes a spirit of a winner to lose. Losers never try.