Why, despite higher IQs, haven't east Asians done nearly as much as Westerners in the sciences, technology, innovation...

Why, despite higher IQs, haven't east Asians done nearly as much as Westerners in the sciences, technology, innovation, arts, expansion, etc?

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patheos.com/blogs/marginoferr/2014/06/05/lets-stop-talking-about-the-islamic-golden-age/
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cause they cheat on the tests moron

Because they are so close to sand niggers

They have lower creativity. IQ generally measures pattern-recognition and following intelligence. It's the supreme creativity and ambition to learn that has driven the white race to dominance.

They cant see shit through their eyelids

Because they invented a really good tea cup.

An Asian is like a computer, it can do a lot if you program it well but if you stopped coding it's not like a computer will make the updates. Basically, they can operate our technology but can't really make it.

This.

>haven't east Asians done nearly as much as Westerners in the sciences, technology, innovation, arts, expansion, etc?
Didn't they? The European supremacy only lasted for 200-300 years of the thousands years of human history.

Asian populations have high conscientiousness, high agreeableness, but low openness which could stifle creativity

This.
Every poo in the loo and chink in any of the eeven semi advanced courses I've taken I can see visibly cheating during tests. It actually genuinely makes me angry because I know the only reason they get away with it is that the teacher thinks the based chinks are 'smart'.

Acquiesence to authority.

Also true

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this

whites create
chinks innovate
blacks desecrate

Most Asians are all brain no soul. Most blacks are all soul no brain. Most whites are the perfect balance of each.

They were plenty creative in all categories till the late middle ages.

I wouldn't call modern whites balanced in any way.

they have

Geographic/environmental factors.

IQ doesn’t capture everything. That’s probably the reason.

And whites have a greater variance so there are more extremely smart among whites.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_inventions_and_discoveries

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Korean_inventions_and_discoveries

asia was mostly on par with the west until the industrial revolution, individualism was typically discouraged in history for easy control by authority, but it allowed the west to surpass the east

traditional asian culture stifles individualism and thinking outside the box that is required for innovation

when it is put aside like in japan or korea, and now recently in china, there is nothing to stop the asian master race

>low openness which could stifle creativity
this is a cultural thing, asians growing up in western societies have a different worldview and thrive

like (((einstein))) ?

>I.Q.'s culturally biased
>I.Q. baselines change with time
>I.Q.'s varying according to formal study status
>I.Q. myths predicated on infinitesimal sample data
>800,000,000 chinks a Dickensian rural poor -- input data that, alone, would skew their numbers well below "subnormal"

KYS, chinuk meme pusher

Because they're fucking cheaters.

This is the correct view. The boom in invention in the west has more to do with advent the industrial revolution in the West than anything. Every *civilized* people were generally on par until then, depending on the era.

They do. You're too autistic to sew i

In reference to this.

Japan is 5th ranking of the Nobel prize number in the science category.
In this century, Japan is 3rd.

There were times when european nations were behind the curve, too. The Islamic Golden Age, for instance, was a time when the middle east was kicking everyone's ass when it came to scientific discovery and innovation. Particularly in mathematics.

Japanese sees Japanese movies the most.
Korean sees Korean movies the most.
Chinese sees Chinese movies the most.
Indian sees Indian movies the most.
How is Canadian?

>if asians are so smart why don't they have jew media pumping out jew propaganda to everyone

they lie and cheat.

Because every time a chinese guy invents something worthwhile and wants to patent it and put his capital into having it mass produced so he can profit his wife chastises him for taking the easy way out and not working hard for his money. Japan doesn’t have this issue but the population is small for asia.

The market size of Japanese music is the 2nd in the world.
I'm not sure the Western music.

(((nobel prize)))
but yes, japan is a major science achiever
you have earnt it tojo

western europe would still be living in caves, eating raw meat and practicing bestiality if not for greeks and romans

there was no islamic golden age, it was just the secular coattails of greek/roman/byzantine civilization, islam's very nature is anti-intellectual
archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=21117

all formal mathematics began in india and greece
the "arabic" numbers and zero all came from india

The Islamic Golden Age was the result of Muslims invading Greco-Roman lands and forcibly converting the inhabitants and then claiming Greco-Roman learning as Islamic learning.

they have a hidden ethnostate that enjoys the fruits of their advanced technologies that remain unknown to the outside world.

haaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha this
but it's worse than that, 'working hard' keeps many people so busy they don't have time to think about anything else, let alone how to do it better and easier

the same problem exists in the west as well

Oddly enough, this

islam was a great mistake

IQ is your inherit abillity to solve a problem, not to rephrase what you learned in 4th grade, remind yourself of that.

best way of putting it i've ever heard

Cheating on IQ tests?

unz.com/jthompson/asians-bright-but-not-curious/
unz.com/jthompson/asians-bright-but-not-curious/

Agree?
Disagree?

unz.com/akarlin/national-wealth-and-iq/

wrong on all counts, chang.

because they are very hive minded as a rule and rarely want to deviate into individualism and go their own way
thats how inventors and explorers and such come up with weird and wonderful things
they do things by the book just how their teacher tells them rather then think outside the box and problem solve

See what you can accomplish with your eyes half closed you fucking racist. Check your wide-eyed privilege. baka

Historical circumstances.
You realise the compass, gunpowder and printing were all invented in China, and spread to Europe through the Mongol conquests? All three of these technologies were fundamental in helping Europeans expand across the world.

Although Europe has historically been rich, it has only been dominant for a a few centuries. China's first imperial dyansty rose at the same time as the Roman empire, with equivalent achievements.

The west just had a big head start, and even then countries like Korea and Japan still make significant innovations.When China catches up to the west, it will have equivalent innovations.
For example, civilian drones are probably the first Chinese product that has no equal in the western world.

Trips of truth

>When China catches up to the west, it will have equivalent innovations

technologically it already has, and they are quickly churning out a flood of engineers
there's more people speaking english in china than in america

what I am most concerned about, is their lack of compassion, their morals and culture has not caught up yet to the west, it would be like giving grenades to a child

Notice how the time cutoff works, from 1450 (the enlightenment) to 1950 (the beginning of the rise of East Asia).
It basically picks the peak of European civilization, of course Europeans are dominant during this period.

As for the Japan figure, if you factor in the fact that Japanese are 1/8th the population of westerners, and had half the time of Europeans as an modern state (since the 1880s Meiji restoration), it contributing 5% of total inventions is perfectly in line with expectations.

The past is the past. Let's focus on the future instead

Their moral collapse is more due to the transition from communism to consumerism, which results in a moral void (no religion or tradition), that can only be filled by money worshipping.
Many Eastern European states are even worse than China, such as Russia. Just check the homicide, corruption and drug abuse rates.
In time, with enough wealth, they will transition to Japan/Korea/Singapore esque morals, which may still feel unnatural to westerners, but that's just cultural differences.

BECAUSE SOY

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Japan invented blue LEDs you fucktard,

the LCD screen you're using to be on Sup Forums would have never happened the gooks in Japan didn't invent blue LEDs. Japan also invented methods used in manufacturing that are taught in business classes everywhere today.

Also South Korea invented OLEDs which are using in curved screens

yep, thats why I'd rather china become a major world power in 50 years time, rather than today

eventually they'll be ok, western values will rub off on them, but they're in that risky phase where they have too much power and money and maybe not the wisdom to use it beneficially

bad chinese food and products are a problem today, it's becoming impossible to find non chinese products

what are you talking about?
I'm not criticising japan
I'm criticising the (((nobel))) prize

look at my posts in this thread

also japanese are nips, not gooks

What do you mean? They're genetically engineering their people now.

They have higher average IQs, people with even their average IQs arent innovating, creating or running anything.
It all happens at the right of the bell curve

>frontpagemag.com

I hope you'll understand why I'm not exactly immediately trusting of a site with "Jihad Watch" as one of their top banner categories when it comes to the topic of Islamic history.

Anyway, just because there were elements that began in other regions, doesn't discredit them being further advanced upon in another. Otherwise you could discredit the advances made by any civilization that grew through the conquest of others by saying "Well, it started in this other place, that got taken over by the civilization that was later given credit fur further advances beyond it."

Although many of the scholars involved came from different regions that got conquered and converted, Harun al-Rashid was the one who created a central location for them, both from outside the "core" of the empire and the ones from inside it, to work on these concepts together and advance them. His heirs then developed the "House of Wisdom" further, and they were the ones funding the heavy scientific advancement of the day.

Of course, then the Mongols came and ran them over like they did everybody else, but that's generally how a lot of these sorts of things tended to end anyway.

they were too collectivistic. That inhibits creativity.

They lack the Faustian spirit or eagerness to explore.
However, I don't know why this is. I have heard some people chalk it up to higher testosterone levels found in Europeans, since it leads to more risk taking behavior. Whites seem to have be in a 'goldilocks' zone of adequate intelligence to ponder but also enough drive to conquer.

>amren.com/news/2016/11/why-have-asians-not-dominated-iq-creativity/
interesting article related.

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jihadwatch is one of the only websites that takes an objective view on the antisocial actions of muslims which are a direct result of islamic teachings

welcome to reality
is anything they've written untrue?

howbout this?
patheos.com/blogs/marginoferr/2014/06/05/lets-stop-talking-about-the-islamic-golden-age/

narrower bell curve distribution despite higher average, so less genius outliers

also conformist

And the west has been too individualist, thats why they will collapse in the next decades

canada?! individualist?

they have low spacial iq which is the ability to envision an idea prior to its inception which makes innovation harder

Because they fell into the socialist trap, which has destroyed countless civilizations throughout the years.

Because they don't have the same creativity, willpower, and balls to do the things westerners do

there is just this wonderful, fascist energy to westerners. I think our fabulous, noble looks play a role in it.

nah, it's the creeping economic socialism and cultural marxism that is eroding the strong individualist spirit the west once had

individualism has allowed degeneracy to rise to spectacular levels however

according to them; imperialism, same as all the other subhumans

Individualism is excellent in a homogenous country. The exception being the US, but remember originally only whites were considered citizens and the whole system was designed to keep the US white, that is over now.
In multirracial countries, if there is a conflict between an individualistic and a collectivistic group, the collectivistic group will eventually take over.

Time Out

A couple things.

First of all, I already had to hit the brakes on

> I was told that masturbation is as horrific as a deadly disease and that circumcision is very healthy and that fasting makes you healthy by science teachers.

What the fuck sort of science teacher is saying stuff like that? At least the masturbation part.

Second, this article is addressing the religion itself, and not the people who made these advancements, saying that the Islamic Golden Age wasn't "real" because of the tenets of Islam. The religion itself has NOTHING to do with my bringing up of the Islamic Golden Age in the first place. I brought it up to show how other regions of the world besides the ones that get lumped together as "the west" were ones that had eras where they were superior in the sciences. Islamic Golden Age just happened to be the name given to it.

You're trying to change the conversation to one about the religion itself, not the region. You're trying to put me into a position where you can start talking about how shit Islam itself is or whatever, but that has nothing to do with the topic I'm discussing.

I don't give a rat's ass about what the religion of Islam has to say about the sciences. In fact, one of the things that led to the end of the Golden Age (other than getting fucked by the Mongols) was a group of anti-science fundies getting enough political power to hamstring further mathematical studies.

When it comes to this conversation, I don't give two shits about the religious devotion of the people who made the advancements, or what their fairy tale book has to say.

John Stuart Mill wrote about this. Their culture is vehemently against change.

>muh creativity
meanwhile china files for more patents than japan, korea, u.s.a and western europe as a whole every year

How in the fuck could they cheat on an IQ test? Jesus fucking christ.

>I don't give a rat's ass about what the religion of Islam has to say about the sciences.
>When it comes to this conversation, I don't give two shits about the religious devotion of the people who made the advancements, or what their fairy tale book has to say.

if you did, you'd realise that those advancements were not the fruits of islam and that to call it a 'islamic golden age' is a misnomer
free thinkers will innovate wherever they are, under terrible conditions, if they are allowed to

islam is not intellectually friendly and is directly related to how many scientific achievements have been produced by the islamic world and why it remains intellectually and economically backwards, if not for the oil, the whole region would be sand and stones

there's nothing wrong with the people living in islamic regions, except islam has poisoned their minds and damaged the genetics of their people through promotion of inbreeding which makes any progress near impossible

Asians are like ants
Whites somehow developed a way to think outside the box, we got creative as the centuries went by.
Pic related
Asians have invented some good inventions tho
But it's mostly the Japanese and Chinese, maybe Koreans, the rest of the chinks are fucking nigger-tier , especially jungle Asians

Because the are a bunch of soulless bugmen subhumans.

The White Man is the master race. Period.

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>1400-1950

nice cherrypicking

Not enough autist like euros.

found the chink bugman

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_technology
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_technology

you barbarian scum

I don't give a FUCK about what Islam itself has to say about it. I use the term Islamic Golden Age because that's the common term for that period of time in that region of the world, particularly when you're talking about scientific advances at the time.

I didn't feel like writing "The Abbasid Caliphate from the 8th to 13th Centuries". You're trying to create an argument about the tenets of islam when it has nothing to do with the topic. You're trying to lead the conversation into a place where you can make an attack on Islam, when I don't care and it means nothing to my point.

And before you right "Clearly you do care if you're typing so much", my issue isn't with what you're saying about Islam, and instead about your insistence of taking those shots whenever you see a chance even if it means nothing to the conversation. You're actively trying to harm the nature of historical discussion by going "BUT ISLAM IS BAD THO" when it doesn't mean jack squat to what I'm talking about.

Romans and Greeks are white too. I am Nordic myself but I admire the Roman and Greek civilizations greatly. Just more stats for the white man to brag about as far as I am concerned!

The ravages of Communism fucked them up, my guy.

Psychology is pseudoscience and IQ is a meme no matter how many Sup Forums brainless are convinced that it's an infallible DBZ power level for your brain

Lack of Christianity.

cherrypicking 1400-1950 is just to make barbarian anglo, saxon, germanic, nords feel good about themselves when they were primitives before

everytime you say islamic golden age, you're pretending islam is compatible with science to make muslims feel good

I dont like islam taking credit for things that could never emerge on its own from islamic philosophy, RENAME THE AGE

unz.com/jthompson/asians-bright-but-not-curious/

low risk taking
low individualism
high time preference

all compared to whites

asian culture is very community, group based, and has always been quite centralised and authoritarian, which is why communism was very popular there

the individualists and entrepreneurs emerging in asia will reshape it into a better structure

they should redo that study with western born asians