Why does this freak people out? NATO already is a European Army. If it turns into n EU army, would it really matter?

Why does this freak people out? NATO already is a European Army. If it turns into n EU army, would it really matter?

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Because the EU is corrupted cancer. Who the fuck would want a military following orders from a bunch of globalist bureucrats who are actively trying to destroy European nations?

But isn’t that the case already under nato?

Because an EU with an army threatens US interests. We are allies today, we weren't yesterday, and might not be tomorrow.

The EU as a political entity was never supposed to exist, especially not without a powerful USSR to balance against.

This is why the CIA is flooding them with niggers. To break apart the EU.

The Bundeswehr is at the end. 4 out of 49 Leo2 in the Munster Training Facility are operational. Higher ups are already losing hope and saying the gov wants to abolish the Bundeswehr cause its really horrific state and still no will to change it for the better. Airforce can only fly around 4 months of the year. Navy is old and small while we giving another 3 warships to israel for free.

Under 40 billion for the bundeswehr while 60+ billion for refugees every years. Those people have the prioritys streight. Kalergi Plan in full force. Can someone just liberate us already? Its not like anyone here could stop it.

Germany is litaraly defensless

If I was Germany, with basically toy guns G36, barely functioning tanks and only 10% of the airforce in working condition, I would also want to somehow get control over a real army

EU is a far more nefarious institution than NATO. NATO is a purely milititary alliance at least in principle. EU is a wannabe-federation that might want to impose it's will on unwilling member states if it has it's own armed forces. An EU army is the end of European sovereignty.

Nato made sense when the US was majority white and there was an actual sense of brotherhood between European and American militaries. It just never will be that way with spics so obviously it's getting replaced

They're doing what now? I've never even heard of this and it's freaking me out. As far as I'm aware we're an occupied territory and our gold reserves still hostage in America, how would "Berlin" get to authorise, let alone organise anything of this sort? The best possible case is that something so lastingly upset the control system the banks have (had?) set up stateside that they now need their backup slaves, but even then they'd have to realise that German "loyalty" to the EU is enforced at nukepoint and would immediately dissipate once their hangmen no longer obey. What the hell is even going on?

because why would they be building up their army if they weren't preparing for war. it means there's a higher probability for a war to break out

>call a glorified swat teams to oppress the locals an army

Call me when the get some aircraft carriers without a fucking ramp to project some force

France has those

It's only a problem if the Germans once again try to force socialism on everyone else

WW3 will begin in Germany, just like the last two. Screencap this post for posterity.

not until the people rise up will this one end.
or, if they don't, it will end badly for us all.

NATO is probably easier to get out of.

But if you codify the army, and make it part of the country, then it's probably harder to get rid of.

Anyway, looking forward to the next "european dominated german army war on russia".
Russia is due for another patriotic war. Russia tried monarchism, anarchism, republicanism, socialism, capitalism... can't wait to see what they do after they win another war.

This.

The EU is a non representative governing body.
They shouldn't have control over anything.

And who are what is that army supposed to be deployed against?
Members states who don't bend the knee to central globalist missives?
China? Muslims? Or is this standing army going to "make use of all these handily available fighting age muslim men we now have sitting and doing nothing in europe" and arm their own invaders, and give them authority over native populations?

>we must invade poland to save the brown childrunz
>we have too many immigrants, we need more living space. we need to invade eastern europe
>russia can't be trusted. we must preemptively invade

I guess waiting a generation to destroy germany is taking too long. Better do it in one big war.

No. The UN Peacekeepers are the ones running human trafficking rings.

Just one of many measurments to ensure independence from the EU will be more difficult. Some countries might only rely on the defence of an EU army and will have less bargaining power to counter any EU reforms in the future

>why does this freak people out

Historically, very bad things happen when Germans militarize. I wouldn't he surprised if they kickstarted ww3 by blitzkrieging Poland again to introduce them to some cultural enrichment within the next few years

I just hope Finns remember soldier's oath and understand that EU-Army direct violation. I say Finns because you know the politicians can't remember.

>The Fourth Reich is formed under the cause of peace, love, and tolerance
>Germany will, again, start another world war

The purpose of a centralized army is to preserve and manifest a centralized state.
With the existence of the Euro, formal EU taxes are not technically necessary to sustain a federal government.
It is the nature of power to coalesce as those unwilling to do so are out-competed by those who do.
Larger and larger governmental forms are progressively less responsive to the needs of the citizens while also being less adaptive to change and less sharped by competition.
This eventually leads to ossification and as the state consumes more and more of the productive output (remember the state expands like power coalesces and for the same reason) it eventually strangles it's host population leading to its collapse.

tldr: The purpose of EU army is increase the power of EU over the states just like in USA

germany needs to be nuked asap

Better than anything you have, not to mention that you build our stuff under licence.
This is about the EU paying for the military while we dont.

>France has those

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The american states are far less autonomous than the separate nations of the EU. North Carolina isn't arguing with Kentucky over the nation's participation in the Iraq war. Euro nations have been warring with each other since nations first existed and the EU will never work because of it.

And as long as they use that piece of shit rifle it'll be universally laughed at

Only America needs aircraft carriers to project force. Literally everyone else can reach every major resource deposit on land. Sorry to spoil your fetish.

Deutschland Verrecken

Its cool buddy, HK makes some great stuff though. I heard indirectly that the main reason the g36 got chosen was a case of by case of nepotism, any truth to that?

>Needing to build carriers to project force
>Not having a plethora of conquered nations to use
>Oh the joys of been British

>the people without a functioning military to lead a military
No way this can backfire.

> Not realizing NATO is there to kill Moskals.

user, I don't know where to begin.

NATO is an American army with European auxiliaries.

Let me guess, you're not white are you?

The point of an EU army would be legal deployment of foreign troops to crush possible anti-EU uprisings in the future.

Just like Warsaw Pact did in Czechoslovakia in 1968.

>Creating EU army
>Too many different languages
>Needing to Speak English

>This is why the CIA is flooding them with niggers. To break apart the EU
No one is "forcing" Europe to take anyone in, we could just have turned them away - or kept them in camps.
What is more interesting is the fact that a lot of people in Europe, rejoiced and celebrated the thought of becoming progressively diverse.
This is still the underlying mentality among most people in Europe, the only exception is that it has dawned on most people that diversity inversely correlate with wealth and crime in a given country.

It's not the CIA, it's the ideological backbone of the west, which are flawed. European values - and American values for that matter, is flawed, it is what is causing this gradual decline of the west and the progression of "degeneracy".

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Italy has a functioning army.
You can have the best equipment in the world, it wouldn't matter if it didn't work.
>that you build our stuff under licence.
Not really. Italy tends to jointly develop with other nations. It's not under license, it's together.

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>Piece of shit rifle
The G36 isn't that bad, it's an AR-18 in plastic furniture. The problem is that the Bundeswehr cheaped out on their contract, so the ones made for Germany have the barrel resting in plastic that deforms easily under heat.

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Remember in the Brexit lead-up the EU said EU Army plans were a crazy conspiracy?

Fuck off, we're talking Canadian politics. Also why the fuck are you bumping the thread literally 10 in a row, you jackass ?

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Oh my, Canadian government shill bot? The moment we actually start to talk in earnest lol

I bet he's Irish.

Looks like he's a 1.57 meters.

Are the Irish usually tiny people?

Yes and remember how we were meant to leave the EU and yet we're still being fucked by them on a daily basis and our PM is an actual joke? We aren't ever going to get out.

Germany having an Army is illegal still,
they are getting around restrictions by saying its with France!

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NATO is effectively controlled by the US, that's a huge difference because the US actually cares about it's sovereignty.

>Germany is litaraly defensless
yeah but we don't have any mortal enemies (beside the eternal anglo), what's so bad about that?

I wonder what all the Remain fags in Britain are saying now. "The EU isn't going to militarize" was one of their big arguments for staying.

No more brother wars

Sorry, you are gonna get raped again by the ruskies

Russia aren't in that good of a place themselves, it would be a cripple fight at best

>germany is quietly building a mass amount pf soon to be dead people who got BTFO by non cucks fighting deepstate.
>wives and girlfriends will mourn their loss for 5 minutes before moving on to go suck kenya dick down at the club .

I do wonder. I was speaking to a smart pro-EU guy the other day who is very clued in about Israel and the US, and i made the point that an economic union is not a good place to start because it doesn't produce any real unity and

He said something like: "they start with economics because if they focused on other things America would not permit it"

But, of course, America being a greedy material empire, can't turn up the opportunity of creating a giant trading bloc to deal with, instead of a bunch of countries.

Seems to think there are secretive forces within this working for a restoration of European preeminence, against America, and heading back more to the kind of regionalism that was predominant in Europe before the cult of demos swept the continent.

>aircraftcarriers
why do we need them?

didn't you plan to build huge wolframpipes and place them in space to use it as "meteors", destroying cities just with the kinetic force they unleash, to get around the "no nukes in space" treaty?

or we should do it like russia and build nuclear torpedos who can't get shoot down by anti-missile systems, unleashing the wrath of an angry god on your coast.

aircraftcarriers are good when you fight caveman in 3rd world countrys but obsolete when 2 major military powers playing war.

>didn't you plan to build huge wolframpipes and place them in space to use it as "meteors",
Ah yes the Rods of God plan.

QANON mentioned to watch the water. German navy getting cucked?

>every country in Europe has to band together to form an army and its still only a fraction of America's army

>every country in Europe has to band together
You mean Germany are scared since they are a shell of their former self. Even the frogs are a better force than them. Wouldn't expect any good nations to join this prospected EU army.

European values was to colonize those dumbasses for their own good and make them do something productive instead of chimping out.

Enriching ourselves with their culture is (((European))) values.

Why would an Irish soldier be in a German uniform with a German gun standing infront of a German tank?
Also the Irish average is 1.8m.

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>NATO already is a European Army
See, that's where you're wrong.
USA is scared about a new SS because that would mean they and their bases get kicked out of EU-territoria.
Afterwards there would be a massive increase in European military spending and in about a decade this military would be on par with the USA, easily.
If you want an example of the potential of a new European army, have a look at Germany in WW2 and add a bit.
That is why people are freaking out. (well unless it's us. In this case, it's us. )

Does Merkel happen to have Austrian roots?
It would explain a lot.

The problem there is we fostered the EU, ffs Obama was even scuffed by the Queen because he tried to convince them Brexit was a bad idea.
Any way you cut it Germany is going to end up on top, and the fuckers spend less military than Poland ffs

She's an East German so 9/10 chance she has Prussian roots

It's either that or remain America's cucks for eternity. Pick your poison. I personally believe we need to completely withdrawal all of our bases/troops from Europe. It costs way too much for our government to constantly defend you/bully Europeans into not waging war with each other and you guys barely trade with us, anyway. Most of our exports go to Canada, Mexico, South America, and China. Some European nations import a bit of our food but that's about it.

I am surprised Trump hasn't cut alot of the NATO budget considering you lot are the biggest spender with us behind you then the rest are paying in pocket change.

The EU is a Globalist Jewish Plot.

>NATO already is a European Army.
This is some quality bait, user. Good job.

Any which way you cut it American politicians will keep beating the NATO drum oblivious until the EU and it's army becomes a superpower in its own right and starts challenging america politically/militarily.
Then they'll be scratching their heads when NATO suddenly breaks apart, the fourth reich is real, Status of Forces agreements start getting torn up, US troops get kicked out of europe and the EU army has millions of brown conscripts

>they warned us the ecominc union would turn into a political union and we laughed it off saying "slippery slope fallacy"
>as the economic union became a more political union they warned us that it would become even more so, and a military union also and we laughed it off saying "slippery slope fallacy"
>when it became a full economic, political, and military union they warned us it would merge with the recent north american and african unions and we laughed it off saying "slippery slope fallacy"
>when the entire world was united under a single government many warned the government would eventually become corrupt as all governments do and then there would be nowhere to escape
>we should have listened to the warnings and now one corrupt tyrannical regime dominates all of humanity

henceforth the slippery slope fallacy came to be known as the slippery slope strategy

I believe we should pull our military out of Europe because it cost way too much money for us to continue to do this. However, you're rather delusional if you believe there will be peace in Europe if we leave. I can see the EU trying to force the UK into rejoining the union, they refuse, and then the EU army begins to mobilize against them while the USA sits back and drinks beer at home. That's just one scenario. There could be plenty of others involving Russia, Turkey, etc. It could even lead to another World War but with nukes this time.

>thousands of anti ship missles
>cost way less than your meme machines.

Aircraft carriers are going the way of white Americans.

>EU wanting an army under Brussels
Good fucking luck convincing the French to swallow that one. With the UK gone, they must account for over 50% of all military strength in the EU. Even fucking Poland has a better military than most other EU members.

>If it turns into n EU army, would it really matter?
Yes because it would be better. Germany needs nuclear weapons too to counter USA and Russia.

That's exactly what we want, dumbo.

>Imagine been a large European nation and not having nuclear weapons

We keep beating the Russia drum to dignify military spending, problem there is you can't beat that drum and avoid NATO. Trump is right.

Good things are happening behind the scenes to oppose this. Germany, despite wanting the EU army, is hot and heavy on its primary small arms supplier - Heckler and Koch. H&K is making more factories in the US as it now has some serious US military contracts. This gives us an advantage if the time comes and they get some edge in small arms technology (specifically in regards to infantry airburst/explosive armaments)

>unironically wanting a world wide nuclear war

Top lel. You'd shit your fucking pants, you pathetic NEET.

its the 3rd reich all over again
but this time the leadership doesnt care about the european races but will likely use the army against those races and on behalf of the invaders

Like all German armies this one will be used to slaughter unarmed white civilians and like all German armies it will never win a war and europe will be destroyed in the process, again