Republicans want to limit immigration and control it so tjey can selectively see who comes in but are vehemently against gun control to see who has guns and selectively see who can have em
I'm sure this is infuriating to read as a gun nut and you think it's completely logical
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>gun nut
The pre-Sup Forums era called, they want their worldview and associated memes back
Why u so butthurt over guns?
Cars produce horrific accidents and high death tolls. Why isn't there ever any talk on banning cars?
im sure this is a reddit copy pasta troll. But if the USA was all white, then gun violence would drop around 90%. It would look like most other white countries.
a background check wont get you into the country so why does a background check give you the ability to hold a deadly weapon and use it for anything you want.
Process should be deeper and uprooted from the start to start over like immigration if republicans want to be consistent. Poking holes to make these two different is futile
>comparing keeps out criminals to rights of citizens
Because Guns dont kill people, people kill people. you god damned fucking moron.
I'm not a republican or conservative, I am a National Socialist, so I am not speaking for them. But I am opposed to gun control in the current environment. I would only be in favor if a number of things happened first, such as border control that works. I don't trust politicians and I certainly think that if gun control happened in the US like it has in certain countries it would destroy it in it's current state. So it's not so simple as being for or against.
background checks to own gun is such a low standard to meet to own a weapon that you can commit mass murder with. Any pleb who hasn't been arrested before can pass a background check it says nothing about your ability as a gun owner. A testing to see proficiency in pressure situations, a psychological evaluation and drug test for hard drugs should be the minimum. This would require to begin with escavating all the illegally possessed weapons. Which I'm sure gun nuts will make 15 reasons as to why taking these guns won't help and why it can't happen and get upset. Yet thwy want to forcefully remove children from the country and families and habe no problem with it. That's just dandy. But don't take their weapons even has statistics, logical backing and they can easily acquire it back if qualified.
Name 1 tryannical regime in history that didn't disarm the population as one of the first steps in the march to tyranny.
>ST. PAUL, Minn. (WCCO) — Minnesota set a record last year for the number of gun background checks the FBI conducted in the state.
>More people are carrying guns than ever before, but the crime rate remains relatively low. WCCO’s Pat Kessler is looking at the numbers, and giving them a Reality Check.
>We took a hard look at the numbers, and found: Minnesota has a high rate of gun ownership, and a relatively low rate of violent crime.
>Minnesota’s violent crime rate hit a 50-year low in 2016, according to the FBI.
>And in 2017, the state set a new record for firearms background checks.
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Minessota is also one of the most white states.
don't let the demonic filthy Jew spirits persuade you, user
I will give up all my guns when:
The US becomes 100% white and crime is at 0%
and
Deer surrender to be eaten
The irony is that we wouldn't need gun control if we didn't have all the shitskins entering our country.
The only gun control we need is to ban niggers from owning them.
Mass shootings don't matter.
I disagree. Proper grip, posture, breathing, trigger control, and sight picture are all critical to good gun control.
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I'mt not against gun control. I'm against liberals being in charge of gun control.
I would like you to rewrite your shitty post into something that is actually comprehensible. I suggest the use of commas, periods, and full words.
Until the requested alterations have been made, I decline to reply to the contents of your post.
Black people aernt the ones shooting up schools. Take responsibility for these people accept what they are doing
>Guns dont kill people, black people kill people
ftfy
Gas is a bigger industry than bullets
Mass shootings, while tragic, are statistically insignificant. More niggers will kill each other in the next few days in Chicago alone than died in the Florida shooting and you leftists won't shed a single tear. You seek political power and government control, you don't give a flying fuck about saving lives. You know an armed populace is the only thing stopping your socialist dreams.
You know you cant strip away the other constitutional rights while the 2nd still stands. The 2nd amendment is the claws and teeth of the constitution.
I don’t even own a gun and even I think you’re a pussy.I would rather have armed citizens than defenseless ones.
Yeah it's funny (((how))) the equivalent number of niggers die every week by handgun deaths to your average bi-quarterly school shooting, we should really take responsibility, and you should McFucking kill yourself
Being armed with a 300 dollar handgun won't protect you from a government rebellion or any measurable military attack with the defenses we've achieved in the current decade.
You guys don't care if less blacks die not if less kids die you just want to discuss political aspects of it all. I'm sure noone here can name 3 kids who died at the shooting but discussed it endlessly for hours on end.
>put down your musket and surrender. You will never defeat the might of the crown.
My point was to keep it logical. If you want to limit immigrants limit guns in same token not make excuses for one if you feel one is determintal and other is not when string arguments can be made for both being negative to country.
Side note I'm not liberal I'm right leaning however I dont like bullshit hypocrisy which politics is full of like this so I point it out
Because admitting that niggers are the cause of the majority of murders and that guns are a red herring is too much cognitive dissonance for him. He'll never accept that the democratic party is the party of murderers, robbers, and other assorted crooks.
Guns are literally a scapegoat. Shitlibs in the shitlib village project all of their anger and frustration at their own problems onto an inanimate object and then run it out of town.
Yes it will. The military's technological terrors require a long supply train of components, fuel, etc. They won't be able to keep shit running when more than half of their people join the resistance and start destroying strategic targets. Guns and ammunition are, OTOH, relatively simple to construct.
The military would be completely fucked.
Funny you never answered what tyrannical regime didnt begin ther power grab by disarming citizens. It is always step 1 to opressing a population. You cant deny the rights of an armed population. That is the entire fucking point of the 2nd amendment.
You didn't read the comments at all. I stated we should conduct in depth mental health reports, criminal backgrounds, testing in high pressure situations and confiscate illegal weapons from basically inner city people who are behind many of the killings. You guys are so reactionary, emotional and panic over titles. Really should compose yourselves and think before you speak.
I'm not saying to deny their rights. People with licenses to carry can keep their guns. Strip the guns of the people with illegal ownership and re sue those guns to redistribute to certified holders of licenses thru selling
Shall not be infringed.
Go fuck yourself you piece of shit.
Nope, I'm tired of having to subject myself to this nonsense just so I can own a gun. Take every insane person and throw them in nuthouse. This medicate-and-let-them-into-the-general-population bullshit is not working. We need to reopen nuthouses and put them in there. Anyone who cannot be trusted with the 2A belongs in either a nuthouse or a prison; they are simply unfit to walk around freely in the USA. Also kick demonrats out of the country because they're traitors who commit the majority of murders and robberies.
You nor I can predict what armed forces members would do in such a predicament they can remain in the governmental force and fight the citizens and most weapons in the military that have ease of use are far superior to anything you can purchase at a gun shop. You would be heavily in a losing position against them.
I can predict exactly what they will do because I come from a military family. They will side with the 2A crowd and fuck your shit up. And stop being a faggot and actually direct your responses at specific posts, dipshit. You clearly don't belong here because you can't even post properly, ShariaBlue shill.
You realize that the type of people who volunteer for the military are the same types of people who own guns and would fight for the constitution, right?
The most pro gun people are often veterans.
If it became a war between the government and pro constitution revolutionaries there would be mass defections from the mitary.
>fuck your shit up
You have a strong resent for whatever you are portraying me as.
God damn it faggot, reference the actual post. Tired of holding your hand on this. Click the little posty number and insert it before your response so people know who you are responding to. Jesus Christ.
Noone here is reading at all. I highly over estimated pol ability and attention span to read thru comments. Everyone is assuming I am being anti gun and want private gun holders to have find confiscated when I am imploring them to keep their guns and remove them from those who hokd illegal guns then make the process to acquire them more difficult thru testing which anyone who can handle a gun and is mentally rigut should pass with flying colors.
>Republicans want to limit immigration and control it so tjey can selectively see who comes in but are vehemently against gun control to see who has guns and selectively see who can have em
Immigration is a privilege. Firearms are a right.
>Noone here is reading at all.
Our firearm rights aren't up for debate.
>hen make the process to acquire them more difficult thru testing which anyone who can handle a gun and is mentally rigut should pass with flying colors.
One shouldn't ask the government for permission or jump through government hoops to exercise their inherent rights.
#p160802871 hmm
>Noone here is reading at all.
No one wants to read what you wrote because you turned your thread into a clusterfuck by not posting responses correctly. You don't know what they fuck you're doing.
Good lord. Well, at least you're trying.
You are an anti-constitutional gun grabbing faggot. You think you are allowed to decide who gets to have their rights. People like you usher in tyranny that results in millions dead. It has happened so many times in tje past 100 years it is ridiculous but you faggots never learn.
You think stopping school shootings and saving dozens is worth the chance of a regime that kills millions.
>#p160802871 hmm
Just how new are you?
Didn't you get any training before being paid to shill here?
Yea we're not going to be like the UK with no free speech, no way to defend ourselves.
That's what'll happen when we give up our guns.
It's what happened to them.
You give up a lot more than just your guns when you give up just your guns. Not having it.
Firearms are not a right. You are purchasing them from wholesalers who upsell them to you for their business it's simply a product you are buying. If it was a right your be assigned a gun like the military as a civilian
People who aren't US citizens don't have US rights. They didn't pay into the US system and the concept of applied consent doesn't apply to them.
David Brock must have kept the tax cut bonuses for himself.
You want gun licences.
What happens to all the current guns out there if people dont get the license? You take them, thats what.
You are a complete fucking moron who hasnt even thought through what you are saying. Calling for licences is calling for the confiscation of literally tens of millions of guns.
If you can legally own a gun as now youd be able to keep it as a I said several times. You'd have no problem.
>Firearms are not a right.
Yes, they are. The founders knew this. that's why they protected that right in the bill of rights.
>You are purchasing them from wholesalers who upsell them to you for their business it's simply a product you are buying.
Which is a right.
>If it was a right your be assigned a gun like the military as a civilian
Wrong. you are confusing "rights" with "free things"
Typical mistake for a gungrabbrer that believes healthcare is a right therefore it must be given freely.
It is looking like brexit isnt even going to happen. The uk government is literally disregarding a democratic vote. They are so cucked it is scary. They are totally under the thumb of a government that doesnt give a flying fuck about them.
If you click on the post number of the post you want to reply to, it brings up a reply box that links that post.
It's really not that hard.
>If you can legally own a gun as now youd be able to keep it as a I said several times. You'd have no problem.
So anyone who doesn't currently have a firearm would have their rights limited?
One is in the constitution and was/is approved by the great majority of those who acknowledge said constitution. The other is in no one's interest but the jews.
I dont believe health care is a right either. You guys love to be reactionary and jump assumptions.
I see now. Thanks
>reactionary
You mean like throwing away constitutional rights of hundreds of millions of people because a few kids died?
No they don't you utter retard. The alt-right doesn't want niggers and other shitskins to keep flooding into their country because it's destroying America. There's nothing remotely logical about what you said, you're just another leftwing retard who doesn't have any idea what his opponents believe because you've spent your entire life getting indoctrinated by the left. Guns are not people
>I dont believe health care is a right either.
Do you believe rights are granted by the government?
>I see now. Thanks
Jesus Christ this is your first time here, isn't it?
Why are you here at all?
>Hates immigrants
>Advocating for immigrant's right to bear arms
Yes the new people attempting to get a gun would have new barriers thats the point. Making it more difficult so less that should not have it own it
This would begin with Germany level confiscation of illegal gun ownership ranging from raiding gang members and inner cities consistently by force to remove weapons and baiting criminals into giving them up. Once it's a clean slate can re start in a new manner
>If it was a right your be assigned a gun like the military as a civilian
t. someone who doesn't understand what a right is.
Probably because you don't know what a right is.
But you don't want to stop at that because that's actually a compromise you are forced into, while trying to convince someone that you don't want to take their rights when you do actually want to take their rights.
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>Yes the new people attempting to get a gun would have new barriers thats the point.
That's an infringement upon their rights though.
>Making it more difficult so less that should not have it own it
Why do you believe fewer people should have firearms?
>This would begin with Germany level confiscation of illegal gun ownership
How are you going to do that?
>Once it's a clean slate can re start in a new manner
Because we all know you'd stop there, right?
No it's not I've just read time to time and decided to throw in 2 cents today
Immigrants have rights if they are US citizens, while non-citizens don't have US rights.
You're a retarded piece of leftwing scum lying like you always do because you cunts have got no principles. Just another liberal soyboy with no honour, dodging every point people make as they btfo of your stupid arguments. Why do you retards even come here?
That is so skewed it should be a chart of people who own guns not total guns. The amount of Americans who hoard guns and have dozens skews that chart greatly and makes it very misleading
>No it's not I've just read time to time and decided to throw in 2 cents today
By coming here and saying our inherent right to own firearms is not a right and the government has the right to strip us of our rights.
Niggers commit half of the murders
i wonder what this newshill will copy and paste incorrectly next!
Because criminals are clearly causing huge problems with them as well as mentally ill who should not own them
Not really. Owning guns is a guaranteed legal right to defend against would be tyrants. The first sign of an incoming tyrannical government is that they will disarm you.
Coming to America is not a right. Also, we don't want to be replaced by shitholers.
Do it by utilizing swat teams and police force to raid them. Incentivize The police with a bounty of x amount of dollars per illegal fun confiscated like they Do with tickets they administer
Yeah you just happened to throw your two cents in when we've been raided by ShareBlue shills for the past 24 hours over this very subject. More like David Brock is paying you 2¢/post but didn't give you any training on how to actually use this site.
>Because criminals are clearly causing huge problems with them
What if I told you that our firearm rights aren't subject to firearm crimes?
>as well as mentally ill who should not own them
And what if I said that you should focus on getting the dangerously violent mentally ill off the street instead of infringing upon our right to own firearms?
OP just go, you don't know what you're doing and you're doing it poorly.
its fucking embarrassing the rest of us trying to make money
There is a difference between immigrants and illegal immigrants you retard. I fully support the right to bear arms for anybody who has legally moved to the USA.
There is literally nothing ironic about this at all. There is a 2nd Amendment right to have firearms. There is no constitutional right for non-Americans to come into America
Yeah you got me
>Do it by utilizing swat teams and police force to raid them.
So the amount of dearths that would cause would be acceptable to you?
>Incentivize The police with a bounty of x amount of dollars per illegal fun confiscated like they Do with tickets they administer
Why would the police be willing to risk their lives so often and risk killing people so often?
Do you really believe millions of people would be willing to have their rights forcibly stripped from them?
Sorry your world view has been revealed to be a total fucking lie. Keep on making excuses.
You know that they probably know, the second they confiscate a legal gun and subject an innocent to arrest and unlawful home intrusion, the entire gun owning demographic will be on them like wild dogs?
Mentally ill have a right to lead a normal life they are not animals. Everyone goes thru rough times of difficulty and mental instability.
You are on pol not biz
>Yeah you got me
Be sure to tell your bosses that they need to train people on how to use Sup Forums before posting here.
Oh and to stop looking like such gungrabbing faggots.
Your arguments don't hold water nor do they fly here.
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The amount of deaths would be far less than the amount of deaths in inner city killings. Fair trade off
>Mentally ill have a right to lead a normal life they are not animals.
So you believe someone so mentally ill that they'd kill another person should be free to walk the streets?
What if they decided to build a bomb with common household materials and kill people that way?
>Everyone goes thru rough times of difficulty and mental instability.
So are you suggesting everyone is dangerously mentally ill at different times in their lives?
Theyd risk it for money. They wouldn't have a choice criminals would habe them taken forcefully
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