Croatian intellectuals

According to studies and Pisa scores our average IQ is 98-99, same average IQ as more developed western European countries. As you know there’s a strong correlation between average IQ and GDPpc, so we’re really underachieving. What can be done? Whose fault is it? Don’t say the most easiest answer - politicians. Everybody complains about politicians and it’s the most easiest excuse when blaming the state of affars in your country.

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in romania urban pisa scores are high, but rural pisa scores are medium to low. that's because politicians lie and do not invest in rural education

where are you living? Average croat isn't very smart

Average people are not very smart, not only in Croatia.

>tfw the swiss have 101

Teach me your ways mountain jew master

>tfw surrounded by brainlets

Cynism, post communism, lack of organized thoughts other than "fuck it", lack of unity, insanely corrupt and garbage leaders draining the nation's morale. Nationalist posturing instead of respect and duty for the country.

Just some factors.

Oh and laziness, outside regions heavily influenced by austro krauts. So basically zagorje.

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Do retarded couldn't measure?

What’s with irish IQ? Why so low?

I'm smarterter then yuo

Portugal's PISA scores in 2015 were similar to those of the UK, which didn't change to begin with. By that metric, we would have gone from 94-95 IQ to 99-101.

And, by the way, the scores have been increasing since the 1990s, particularly for the poorer students. If you control for socioeconomic class across countries, we actually have some of the best scores. Pic related measures this for the science test only because that's the only one they provided. I'd like them to show the same graph for the math scores.

this 100%

wildly accurate

more like too dangerous for researchers to enter the country

>what's with irish IQ
>irish

this

>Whose fault is it?

in 1945 Croatian intelligence and high class elite were literally obliterated. After that you had 40 years of communism, and a system ran by literall savages and corrupt primitive rednecks who made themselves the ruling class after wiping out Croatian intelligence and purging the Volksdeutsche which were basically also Croatian and very loyal to the Croatian state + they were leading the way in agroculture and smaller businesses which were a succefull basis of a good economy. No wonder Croatia scores low.

Now I feel really bad for southern Balks who had centuries under turks and decades under communism

Croatia was never fully under the Turks. Turks have never established a firm grip of any Croatian region. The other Balkan states were not so lucky.

Where do you live, i always felt like average person is quite intelligent, then i realised its just that intelligent people get together naturally.

have you never rode on a train and listen to other people talk?

God damn, and I thought I was kind of dumb with an IQ of 128.
No wonder you all vote socialist.Micro brain's over there.

Woah Iceland and Switzerland though

nuke this shithole pls

It's not about IQ at all. We're dumb as fuck and loaded.

>2012

>train
Mate, i rarely leave my house, would do it more often but i work from home and friends went away to study in zagreb. To answer the question a bit better, sure and people are pretty average but when i judge croats or people in general i judge it based on people i actually met and i properly talked to.

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Sounds about right, anything other would be false post-Soviet purges. Only the most retarded of retards remain.

zg

Says the brainlet who doesn't understand averages.

Average american IQ is 98.

I am firmly of the belief that despite the terrible standard of state education, the average British person is relatively bright.

For example, I was an Infantry officer for a time. The level of education among the men was poor, with a good half not having any GCSEs (basic secondary school education). They were disproportionately from the poorest parts of the country.

Yet they were all more than capable. They were mentally agile, quick to learn, stable and mentally solid with a good sense of humour. I am not exaggerating when I say that a British infantryman has more intellectual capacity than most foreign officers (and, unfortunately, some British ones). Even the ones with the lowest ability in mathematics and English could write a letter, spell properly, work a computer and budget their money. I've been to a lot of places and a good portion of the world even the "smartest" people would struggle to do that.

whoever gave you that score lied

A think a significant factor is the brain drain. In other words, a large percentage of the brightest most ambitious people leave the country for greener pastures.

I'm surprised it's that high desu bongbro. If you ever come here you will be amazed at the absolute retardation you will see.

that picture is false, look up the stats.

The 2002-2006 stats? This is exact same researchers just 2012 version, i doubt they will ever update it. The 2012 version ofc has a book like like the last one so you can read through it.

investing in wars instead of fighting them themselves helps a lot.

iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

how the fuck did you get those numbers ?

And the whole Europe has

This is my flag, apparently. Technically it is illegal to do that to an existing national symbol, but whatever.

>swiss reading comprehension

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learn
swiss, german from birth
french and english at age 11
(actually maybe earlier, its been while)

then there's voluntary courses for italian, latin, spanish among a few others once you enter "high school" age

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"studies"

Flanders would have the highest number if it wasn't for the underperforming Walloons keeping us down once again

Just post other maps

and immigrants

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Stupid map, it only accounts capital city and in this case Croatia, Zagreb. You are led to believe that whole former Yugoslavia has 103 IQ

did you even read the thread
are you actually this dumb?

>Be Jewish/Spanish/Nog mutt.
>IQ 113, higher than most Europeans.
Yuropoors BTFO

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This maps are outdated, didn’t take to account different studies.

Jewish master race shall crush the stupid goyim.

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It's the more reliable if you ask me

I didn’t say it was unreliable. It was done in Zagreb, the capital city, so naturally IQ will be higher.

Biće bolje aj, još Hrvatska ni propala.

I wonder how Swiss are just 101 when they brain drain every country around? What counterbalances this?

Albanians

and how can they even live there? I've heard it's pretty hard to live there without well payed job

its the opposite

switzerland has drained albania and espeically kosovo of all its talent (both sport and intellectual), next is germany and the uk

if we adjust for the 300'000 (3.5%) albroaches with an average iq of 80 the IQ is even higher: 102!!

Out of all the yugoslav people that I met, croats were by far the dumbest ones. Even though the country is quite nice, it's a shame that people are idiots. Maybe the smart ones stay at home to enact genocidal policies, you are good at it.

Anyways, the average IQ from your map is far off the real numbers. I imagine the Flynn effect wasn't incorporated correctly, there is absolutely no way that everyone has

>switzerland has drained albania and espeically kosovo of all its talent (both sport and intellectual)
these talents can all be visited in our prisons

I'd guess they accept substandard living standards, probably because they have a different reference point (Albania). Most came in as refugees as far as I know so there's no reason to assume they're particularly skilled.

Makes me wonder how Albozergs can have such big heads with so little substance.

kek is it really that bad? does your country not have the death penalty

Also, the data for croatia was actually from a 1952 study.

Long story short, if you want to know more about this go to a university and talk to some psychologists. Or try to get some trustworthy information.

>does your country not have the death penalty
nope. instead of killing murderers, we put them in mental hospitals that cost 1000 dollars per day per piece of trash. Then after 10 years they get out and rape and murder again. after that, they are put back in the same costly institution until they die, costing the tax payer another 3 million dollars.

IQ equals to performance, not genius. High IQ are probably more functional, but at the cost of culture and viscerality.

>serbia ~90

Not sure if I should be horrified or glad that there's less competition.

that's right. look at all these low-iq but culturally rich africans

Ćuti, Ćuti Ujko!

The study you are referring to has been done in 1954. Prior to Lynn and Vanhanen book in 2012, thit was the only study that was taken into account for Croatia by them. Here’s how they got mean IQ for Croatia.

This is absolutely not bait.

God is a serb. God is not smart.

this whole area is fucked

genetically, balkans supposed to be over 100 but we don't apply viriculture

What if we forced africans to get educated, you think their IQ would change at all ever?

No. Brainpower is the cause of education, not the effect.

croatia is a safe and generally orderly society with low crime, the way the average person behaves there is reflective of the average iq

gdp per capita isn't the be all end all of things, i much rather live in zagreb on 1000 euro a month than london with 5000 euro a month

IQ is genetic, studies on black and white children in America have been done. Also on adopted black children by white middle and upper middle class parents. Their IQ doesn’t change that much.

Friulian masterrace?

I've seen cro show called peti dan, I don't understand every damn word, but man, cro intellectuals are worst kind of provincial peasant right.

But IQ is also affected by environment, it can still be raised

That is exactly what the Croat just disproved. There's been studies where black kids were put in a 'white' environment (i.e. adopted) and they still performed worse than white kids adopted by black parents.

Though to add, the black kids that were adopted did have a higher IQ than the black kids that weren't, so to an extent environment plays a role. But genetics does too.

In teenage years yes, by 18+ years it level out. IQ may rise 2-3 points but still not enough to equalize with white IQ which is on average higher by 15 IQ “points”.

Yes, but they didn't end up as gangbanging subhumans

Getting sent to Goli Otok killed the brightest bloodlines
Diaspora are ready to come back but the natives don't want them

Yes, I'm not saying the blacks will get higher IQ than whites, just that their IQ can be raised

They couldn't have bothered to translate the tests in such secluded and isolated languages due to unique/Untranslatable terminology.