Why do liberals think that a "right to public education" is more fundamental than the right to self-defense that the...

Why do liberals think that a "right to public education" is more fundamental than the right to self-defense that the 2nd Amendment guarantees?

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I really really want a FN FAL

They believe the gubmint will take care of us in every way possible.

better get one soon, just in case they ban imports

those who are utterly dependent become slaves. I used to wonder why liberals couldn't understand this. Now I realize they understand it only too well; they WANT to be slaves.

They think that everything is given by the government in some form or another, and anything that isn't just doesn't have laws created to regulate it yet. It is why they are attracted to socialism like flies to shit. To them, the government is something that protects their righteous and noble interests. The irony is that the government generally doesn't give a shit what you think, and will do whatever it can to secure power, so the people in charge can make more money.

The founders were a huge fluke in history. They were the first ones to set up a government with rules that explicitly told itself to fuck off. They felt that there were inherent rights that all people (eventually) had, and it was the job of the government to protect them.

Because countries where everyone is guaranteed guns but nobody is guaranteed an education are really shitholes?

>implying everyone in the world who doesn't own a gun is a slave
>implying gun owners aren't slaves
i see you've given this a lot of thought

>and it was the job of the government to protect them.
The Constitutional Law protects rights, the government is just that, guidance.

Because the "right" for their Marxist programmers to have access to your children 7+ hours a day trumps your right to oppose their government.

Here's the blackpill: It's not about rights at all, it's about disarming their opposition.

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they are already banned from import unless you mean a shitty worn out parts kit gun

why do conservashits think murdering muslims with drones who are americans is ok when it violates the constitution?
why don't you scum bag hypocrites stop pretending to care about rights?

I don't ever remember a conservative defending Obama's drone strike policy

Why do liberals think that we shouldn't teach gun safety in schools? Why should we not learn about our rights? Because they don't want the future generations to know them. It's easier to control the future generations, not teaching them the rights they have, and later stripping them of those rights under the guise of "safety".

>public education
>education

It's hellish indoctrination.

Because public education is run by liberals and used to brainwash the youth. ensuring an endless underclass forced to live on welfare and vote Democrat.

Because public education invests back into the people, and higher education not restricted by a paywall makes economic opportunity more equal, not just for those with loaded parents.

Also you don't necessarily need a gun to defend yourself in many situations, and for most owners its more of a liability than the slight one-off chance you'll actually need firearm to defend yourself.

>Republican president/DRONE STRIKES BAD
>Democrat president/DRONE STRIKES GOOD
Got it. BTW, did you know that Noam Chomsky
Still Obama a war criminal?

no shit

dsa arms, they make fals. ive mixed things about them

they believe in the right to free education, but can't even educate themselves for free on the internet about guns and gun laws.

The 2nd amendment causes security problems for every American. The right to public education enables a pathway for children to be raised with the nation's values and be able to progress based on merit.

Because they can brainwash more retards that way.

I definitely do and the right to healthcare.

Honest question, what good is education nowadays when you have the internet and all the knowledge you want a couple of clicks away? Didn’t learn anything worthwhile during all my years in school that I didn’t already know from reading and studying stuff online on my own. Public education is a fucking joke, brainwashing and indoctrination is all it’s good for the modern age.

Both are important. To deny one or the other is to be a Tremendous Faggot. We shouldn't have to choose between either.

who said you didnt have the right to have healthcare, last time i checked you can still get that

I can get the voting, but why would a government official want more people to use government funding?

ANYONE AGAINST OWNING GUNS IS A NON-AMERICAN, MIGHT AS WELL LEAVE THIS FUCKING COUNTRY AND GET GANGRAPED BY PAKIS IN BRITBONGISTAN.

They look nice, but I haven't read any reviews on them. They can't be as bad as century arms though.

i think a homemade slamfire shotgun is better than a century

The Fed creates a totally opaque wealth transfer system with zero input from the voters. For "government officials", it is literally utopia - buy votes using a printing press, and keep an unbelievably cushy, high-paying job with zero accountability that leads to an even higher-paying job on K street afterward.

They inflate the currency and the constituency discovers how much it costs them long afterward.

In truth, the Fed has made "progressives" the biggest oppressors of poor brown people worldwide - because of the petrodollar (among other factors), some starving kid has to pay more for a fucking bowl of rice to pay for she-cunts free fucking abortions and condoms.

>Why do liberals think that a "right to public education" is more fundamental than the right to self-defense that the 2nd Amendment guarantees?
Because they can brainwash people through the education system. Firearms are used to resist them.

I thought DSA just went out of business

>but why would a government official want more people to use government funding?
Gives them power because the people who are on government funding rely on that politician to protect it and increase it.

Plus bigger government means more job security and more chances to make more money.

>The 2nd amendment causes security problems for every American.
The 2nd amendment causes security problems for every politician.

Fixed that for you.

>Makes it easy for bad guys to acquire guns
>Leads to school shootings
>Paranoid cops shoot innocents, causing tension in communities
Definitely bad for the common American citizen

>>Makes it easy for bad guys to acquire guns
Bad guys will acquire guns no matter what laws there might be.

firearm laws only affect the law abiding.

>>Leads to school shootings
Lack of protection of the children leads to school shootings.

>>Paranoid cops shoot innocents, causing tension in communities
Cops having to deal with niggers day in and day out and being constantly vilified by liberals, the media and the niggers make cops paranoid.

Besides, by in large, police shootings are justified.

>Definitely bad for the common American citizen
I guess then it's too bad for you that our firearm rights are not subject to firearm deaths.

Because they're psychologically children who have been utterly sheltered their entire lives and literally cannot grasp the idea that their comfortable, mundane lives aren't just how the world naturally works.

Have you ever needed a gun in your life? Tell me the story

>Bad guys will acquire guns no matter what laws there might be.
Gun control can certainly limit the guns bad guys receive. In the UK, guns are rarely owned by criminals and if they do have guns, they're WW1 or WW2 surplus. Firearm laws make the community much safer. Police are less on edge and are thus much less likely to use force.

>Lack of protection of the children leads to school shootings.
No. That would be the ability to easily acquire a gun. Gives weak and angry individuals a lot of power.

>Cops having to deal with niggers day in and day out and being constantly vilified by liberals, the media and the niggers make cops paranoid.
It's a vicious cycle in the US. Anyone can have a gun and no matter the race, religion or creed of the person, they'll always put their own survival first. This leads to shootings, which leads to tension, which leads to division, which ultimately leads to a break down in law and order.

>I guess then it's too bad for you that our firearm rights are not subject to firearm deaths.
Your firearm rights cause a lot of deaths. That's not a good thing.

No, Remington went out of business. DSA still in order; recently made a rifle purchase from them.

>Gun control can certainly limit the guns bad guys receive.
Nope. If someone really wants a firearm, no law will stop them.

>In the UK, guns are rarely owned by criminals and if they do have guns, they're WW1 or WW2 surplus.
We're not the UK.

>Firearm laws make the community much safer.
No, they don't. Being able to defend oneself makes the community much safer.

>Police are less on edge and are thus much less likely to use force
Police by in large only use force when force is required.

>No. That would be the ability to easily acquire a gun.
It's our right to be able to easily acquire a firearm. Because firearms are an inherent right.

>Gives weak and angry individuals a lot of power.
Firearms give otherwise "weak" people the strength to stand up to those who would take their rights from them.

>It's a vicious cycle in the US.
That's the end result of diversity and multiculturalism.

>Anyone can have a gun and no matter the race, religion or creed of the person, they'll always put their own survival first.
And?

>his leads to shootings, which leads to tension, which leads to division, which ultimately leads to a break down in law and order.
Diversity and multiculturalism lead down to a breakdown in law and order.

>Your firearm rights cause a lot of deaths.
Wrong. People violating their firearm rights causes deaths. You want to punish the innocent and the law abiding for what the law breaking are doing.

This is actually so fucking stupid that it's amusing.

>Gun control can certainly limit the guns bad guys receive.

No it fucking doesn't you retard. The amount of guns that are made illegal to the public does shit to people who actually deal in the black market. They're willing to go as far as to deal with loos and Eastern Europeans to get the firearms they desire, some will even go about constructing their own firearms.

> In the UK, guns are rarely owned by criminals and if they do have guns,

Top lel, yeah it's not like the IRA, Ulster Volunteers, etc all tote around Rocket launchers, AK-47s and mortars. Those gun control laws sure prevented them from doing what they do. Obviously I'll take you at your word as if there's some sort of consensus on how many criminals own guns in the United Kingdom.

Fucking moron.

>No. That would be the ability to easily acquire a gun. Gives weak and angry individuals a lot of power.


Right, which would be stopped by the people who protect school campuses. You do know that a good number of school shootings have been prevented by firearm defense, right?

>Anyone can have a gun and no matter the race, religion or creed of the person, they'll always put their own survival first. This leads to shootings, which leads to tension, which leads to division, which ultimately leads to a break down in law and order.


Wow! That's a great argument against multiculturalism, not so much against individual freedom.

>Your firearm rights cause a lot of deaths. That's not a good thing.

Actually they cause a small number of homicides. Most deaths involving guns are usually due to suicide, which I'd find amusing if you somehow blamed the gun for that, but I wouldn't put it past you

There is a saying: "Speak softly and carry a big stick."

Why not just speak softly? Because people act in their own interest, and if you have something they want and they think they can take it, they will. So you keep the means to defend yourself, so other people respect your boundaries. Not all people? Doesn't matter. You want to live peacefully? That is literally not up to you. It is up to other people whether they want to let you live peacefully. So, make sure they understand what will happen to them if they fuck with you. Understood?

Better have it and not need it, than to need it but not have it.

the required state indoctrination means it's an ends

>They felt that there were inherent rights
that white land owning males have, and only white land owning males, and they were right

>The 2nd amendment causes security problems for every American.
LMAO

You answered your own question near the end there. Its use is to indoctrinate and mold the new generations into thoughtless, subservient drones. Hell, the best thing you can get from public schooling is maybe some wonderful friends or maybe get to know a teacher who isn't just a topical demagogue constantly blabbering about new concepts and subjects of which they require you to memorize and regurgitate like a machine. I don't know how it is in Norwegian schools, but that is generally how it is here.

>pathway for children to be raised with the nation's values
nice try, but no. modern education teaches them that USA is bad, patriotism is racist, white males are the cause of all their problems.
modern education needs shut down asap.

I don't believe that liberals think for themselves. They are low IQ drones that repeat what they're taught.

>I can get the voting, but why would a government official want more people to use government funding?
make them dependent. promise them the moon and they'll vote for you even if you suck complete ass like most democrats do.

They wont take our guns period

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>Have you ever needed a gun in your life? Tell me the story
is your house burning? no.. then get rid of that fire extinguisher. no need for it.

Unlike the Right to Bear Arms, there is NO right to a publicly funded education.

A bureacrats job is to make sure the government program they are making lifetime gravy on never goes away and only gets bigger- it's called job security, friends and family, justifying ones own existence, etc.

When William Binney's NSA team made a 10 million dollar snooping info suction that protected all US citizens rights and targeted and found just the terrorists, his bosses told him, you're done, we'll take that and make a monster multi-billion dollar monster out of it that takes everything, and that's what they did.

That's how it works.
If you work for government welfare / food stamps feds, and you can grow your department 300% in obamas 8 years, you're making a lot more money so are all your bestes.

>Why do liberals think
You're asking the wrong question.

you forgot "living and breathing" and "penumbraic emanations" "woven between the text"

So you are saying that all humans are born slaves?

>Evolution is just a theory hurr durr

They are just children that have no idea what it takes to physically defend yourself.

We should just drop them all off in North Korea and see how much they wish they had a gun then.

That's why you "educate" yourself so you can defend yourself

>Self-defence = owning a gun

Minors get the fuck off the board.