Capitalism rewards individuals arbitrarily and is antithetical to evolution

Prove me wrong faggots. Protip: You can't.
>Inb4 Muh capitalism lifts people out of poverty and I will ignore the fact that modern capitalism benefited from centuries of human tech advancement under monarchies and theocracies.

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what is your alternative

Communism rewards individuals universally and is antithetical to evolution

Evolution is exposed as a meme every time it is tested objectively.
Speckled moths my ass

Real capitalism has never even been tried! Just the other day I was forced by the government to sell a gay wedding cake for the same price as a real wedding cake! Was gonna charge those faggots a million buckeroos!

Fuck fake capitalism we need to abolish welfare and free education

Fascism and monarchism are the only moral ideologies

Fucking slide-thread Jew. The only acceptable form of communism is national bolshevism.

Official soviet policy was to deny evolution as we currently understand it.

>what is your alternative
Democratic communism.

>Communism rewards individuals universally and is antithetical to evolution
Humans discovered farming more than 12,000 years ago. We've long gone off the path of evolution. Capitalism tries to replicate a jungle environment in a world where 1 billion people grow crops sufficient to feed 7.2 billion people. Thus, 6.2 billion people receive rewards that are arbitrary in nature.

White faggot.

and accept it as soon as the asshat is dead

>Evolution is exposed as a meme every time it is tested objectively.
>My brain is exposed as a meme every time it is tested objectively.
FTFY

Also, since you have a pea sized brain, I think wikipedia should be enough for you
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment

Doubt you will be able to understand any of the papers related to the long term e-coli experiment.

>Real capitalism has never even been tried!
I'll bite. Why do you say that? Rather, what would it take for real capitalism to be implemented?
>Fuck fake capitalism we need to abolish welfare and free education
Hmmmm. You've got my almonds activated. Please elaborate more on your idea of ideal capitalism.

Why do you say it's arbitrary?

>makes original argument about evolution
>gets BTFO
>Humans discovered farming more than 12,000 years ago. We've long gone off the path of evolution.
Just kys.

>Why do you say it's arbitrary?
>Humans discovered farming more than 12,000 years ago. We've long gone off the path of evolution. Capitalism tries to replicate a jungle environment in a world where 1 billion people grow crops sufficient to feed 7.2 billion people. Thus, 6.2 billion people receive rewards that are arbitrary in nature.

Lysenkoism is still prevelant thought in the various institutions. All this one human race is an extension of that thought. Though they gave up trying to apply that to basic plant life like turning wheat into rye and other crazy shit.

Because not everyone gets a wholly equal amount while they butt fuck each other in peace and harmony.

Why did you sign your post?

>makes original argument about evolution
Capitalism is antithetical to evolution was my assertion, yes, this is true.
>gets BTFO
Why? Because some faggot said communism is antithetical to evolution without proof?
>>Humans discovered farming more than 12,000 years ago. We've long gone off the path of evolution.
How is this contradictory to me saying capitalism is antithetical to evolution?
>Just kys.
I don't kill myself because retards want me to.

No one cares faggot, kill yourself.

>Capitalism
Human needs are simple. Air, Water, Food, and Shelter.
All of these things are free in America, under capitalism.
Men who want more than the basics, work for it.

Women are attracted to successful men, and they choose to have their babies, thus ensuring the continuation of the species.

>Why did you sign your post?
Kek. This was a good riposte faggot.

>No one cares faggot, kill yourself.
>No one cares about my faggotiness. I should kill myself.
FTFY.

>Human needs are simple. Air, Water, Food, and Shelter.
>All of these things are free in America, under the petrodollar which transfers wealth from other nations to America simply because America bullies Saudi Arabia to sell oil in dollars.
FTFY.
>Women are attracted to successful men
So I take it you're single?

Do not reply to troll threads.
Sage, Report, Move on.

>Do not reply to troll threads.
>Sage, Report, Move on.
Don't forget to sage in the options field.

Also, you don't have any arguments faggot.

>So I take it you're single?
No, I have 5 white children.

I see your point, but a system doesn't have to distribute wealth equally.
A system could be set up to delibrately distribute wealth unequally based on some factor.
The statement capitalism rewards people arbitrarly is itself arbitrarly and vague. You could make any argument to make it true or false depending on your point of view.
Also, when OP is not referring to the antithesis of evolution, I assume it's not referring to biological evolution; survival of the fittest.

So capitalism is fare and we all have an equal chance of becoming rich... Got it.

>So I take it you're single?
>No, I have 5 white children.
Are any of them yours?

>So capitalism is fare and we all have an equal chance of becoming rich... Got it.
No. That's the other extreme. A fair system is where everyone gets what they deserve - that does not mean everyone is equally rich - it certainly means some will get more than others. The point here is not communism is better than capitalism. The argument is that Capitalism is not a fair system and it rewards individuals arbitrarily.

communism rewards a small group of elites, genocides the middle class, and leaves the poor in much deeper poverty.

under capitalism, "poverty" is eating steak dinners every night with your EBT card

>it rewards individuals arbitrarily.
But isn't this technically fare since everyone has a chance at getting rewarded. You are essentially arguing that a random lottery is unfair because some people win sometimes.

>communism rewards a small group of elites, genocides the middle class, and leaves the poor in much deeper poverty.
>Capitalism rewards a small group of elites, genocides the middle class in the long run, and leaves the hard-working in much deeper poverty since they have to continuously work more and more just to maintain the same standard of living.
FTFY

>under capitalism, "poverty" is eating steak dinners every night with your EBT card
>under capitalism, "poverty" is eating steak dinners every night with your EBT card since other principled and moral individuals put in more effort so that you can leech off of them.
FTFY.

Not surprising that you "it takes a village" folks question paternity. Yes, they are all mine.

>The argument is that Capitalism is not a fair system and it rewards individuals arbitrarily.
How? If you have a good idea you can make money off it. How is it arbitrary?

north korea, cuba, venuzuela, USSR.
vs
USA.

Anyone who honestly supports communism has brain damage. It's been tried a dozen times, and has ended up enslaving the population every time. go live in venuzuela fucktard. the entire country is STARVING

Communism literally denies evolution, (Lysenkoism), so it's obvious you don't know a lot about it. Here's the truth, capitalism is fully compatible with evolution.
>b-but capitalism isn't evolution because w-we know how to f-farm n shiet
Then having any form of agricultural society AT ALL is against evolution, which it obviously isn't.

>it rewards individuals arbitrarily.
>But isn't this technically fare since everyone has a chance at getting rewarded.
You're trolling right? Everyone having the same chance of success is fair. Everyone having a wildly different chance of success is not fair.
>You are essentially arguing that a random lottery is unfair because some people win sometimes.
In a random lottery, everyone has the same chance of winning - roughly equal to 1 by the number of lotteries. In Capitalism, different individuals have different probabilities of success depending on their race, gender, and social standing.

Actually, forget gender. I don't care much about women not having equal opportunities to men since they're more important in preserving a race and are thus more valuable as human incubators than laborers in the workforce.

Having said that, if you eliminated the estate tax, eliminated preferential treatment to individuals based on their social standing, then perhaps capitalism would be fair.

However, time and again, capitalism has shown that monopolies form in the long run - since from an evolutionary perspective only those who are addicted to growth survive in the market - irrespective how much damage they cause others. Monopolies essentially set up a huge economic rent - the cost of entering and competing in the market becomes tougher and tougher. Add to this, the benefits people receive due to their social standing and financial background, it's easy to see that capitalism is not a fair system - those who win at the start, keep on winning irrespective how good the other gene sets are in the population.

That's not how it works in nature.

I can sort of agree. As the saying goes, life is not fair. Or maybe it's more like finding meaning in life regardless of the circumstances.
As far as giving people what they deserve that is arbitrary. There is no such standard to measure against. What is true for one person may not be true for another.

>Yes, they are all mine.
>My 5 kids are all mine
But how do you know?

explain how china is communist

Nothing is left to chance, kiddo. That's called gambling. We all have opportunity to be rewarded for hard work, unlike communism, where you only get a little for your effort.

Don't confuse capitalism with having a "job" laboring for the benefit of others, is the root of communism. Never trade your labor for less than it's full value. Working to make your boss rich, is worse than slavery.

>If you have a good idea you can make money off it. How is it arbitrary?
How can you say all good ideas make money in a capitalistic market? Facebook makes tons of money but it also leads to social decay - would you say it's a good idea. Besides, how many good ideas have arisen without the help of external investment? There's always an element of risk involved - and by definition, risk implies luck. So by definition, all individuals who have succeeded in capitalism were lucky - because the risks they took paid off. Now, the question is did all of them work hard to get there with luck? Some yes, but some no. Is Kim Kardashian a hard working individual, in your opinion?

>north korea, cuba, venuzuela, USSR.
>vs
>USA.
Pic is for bait retard, but the point on capitalism still holds. Fucking learn to argue faggot.

why do you ignore the inhumanity of millions slaughtered by your stupid idea?
Threating the lives of everyone doesn't matter because you don't want to get a job?

>Is Kim Kardashian a hard working individual, in your opinion?
She certainly can entertain some people.

>We all have opportunity to be rewarded for hard work
So if you were born in a Ghetto black community with constant drive bys and shootouts, you would be in the same position you are today? Luck played no part in you being where you are?

i did. With actual evidence of what happens when your stupid idea is put into practice. Everyone in the middle class is slaughtered, and a new ruling class rules over the burnt remains of the nation.
then the country suffers for decades as they have no work ethic.

>MY magic idea of communism hasn't been tried yet

>In a random lottery, everyone has the same chance of winning - roughly equal to 1 by the number of lotteries. In Capitalism, different individuals have different probabilities of success depending on their race, gender, and social standing.
So it isn't arbitrarily then.

>Having said that, if you eliminated the estate tax, eliminated preferential treatment to individuals based on their social standing, then perhaps capitalism would be fair.
But what if the parents of the kids wanted to spend their lives to make their kid's lives better? Milton Friedman goes into how this concept creates a stable society based on family values rather then a society where every spends all their money on wasteful bullshit before they die.

>However, time and again, capitalism has shown that monopolies form in the long run - since from an evolutionary perspective only those who are addicted to growth survive in the market - irrespective how much damage they cause others. Monopolies essentially set up a huge economic rent - the cost of entering and competing in the market becomes tougher and tougher. Add to this, the benefits people receive due to their social standing and financial background, it's easy to see that capitalism is not a fair system - those who win at the start, keep on winning irrespective how good the other gene sets are in the population.
Do you know what part of modern capitalism is forming these monopolies? It's funny how they only started showing up once the government started regulating the market.

>Democratic communism.

I prefer democratic absolute monarchy.

>why do you ignore the inhumanity of millions slaughtered by your stupid idea?
The fact that you have nothing but to go against communism shows to me that you have no argument against capitalism being an arbitrary system.

>>Is Kim Kardashian a hard working individual, in your opinion?
>She certainly can entertain some people.
I don't know if you're trolling right now. So if Olga works hard, opens a shop, and is not willing to whore herself out, pose nude, and release a sex tape, and she wants to be chaste and honorable, she should be awarded less than Kim Kardashian? Really? I mean there are limits to trolling.

>However, time and again, capitalism has shown that monopolies form in the long run - since from an evolutionary perspective only those who are addicted to growth survive in the market - irrespective how much damage they cause others.

so not arbitrarily

niggers are a terrible example because they expose the myth of "equality". they're not, and do not deserve an equal opportunity

Every system ran by humans is to some degree arbitrary as far as I can tell.

Communism is even more arbitrary than capitalism since the redistribution happens along a made up criteria of equality

>i did. With actual evidence of what happens when your stupid idea is put into practice.
I say pic is for bait, and you go back to communism? So you don't have any arguments against capitalism being an arbitrary system, do you? Didn't think so brainlet.
>MY magic idea of communism hasn't been tried yet
Weak attempt to troll faggot. Learn to be more subtle when you troll next time.

>Communism literally denies evolution
I have to disagree with you there.
Communism leads to misery and suffering.
Humans have a tendency to comiserate, thus communism results in a lot of inbreeding sad lonely people.
Inbreeding results in mutations, and not all of them bad, a small percentage of mutations are actually beneficial to humanity. Not X-men, but improvement, and or evolution.

>So if you were born in a Ghetto black community with constant drive bys and shootouts, you would be in the same position you are today?
If this is detrimental to black communities then why do they do this to themselves, unlike even the poorest white communities.

The west has stopped encouraging evolution, but it's because we have added more communism to our system. For evolution I'd provide only for my family. In our current system I provide gibs for every illiterate who keeps breeding, competing with myself.

Your morals are arbitrary.
Do you want people to see your point of view based on what you think is right?

Internalized racism

>blah blah blah I have brain damage
you sat behind your marvel of human engineering, where we made the laws of physics bend to our will and give us instant global communication, while you have an array of hundreds of spices and foods to choose from at insanely low prices.
where a few hundred years ago you'd have to eat the same shit every day with no spices and die of dysentary at age 17.

i don't have to argue for capitalism, because anyone whose not a snotty 13 year old can see how great it is.

it's not arbitrary, because the ONLY way to implement communism is through slaughter. there's no way to grow it naturally, because it is built on corecion.

Capitalism is built on cooperation, where people can willingly agree to trade or disagree.

Stalin was traitor to communism, only Tito knew the real way of communism. Stalinist filth will be sent to Goli Otok on vacation

I'm not trolling. Entertainers have more value than people who operate shops. Anybody can make a shop, not everybody can be a good entertainer. As a Catholic I think there should be some sort of control over what is promoted in the media,so obviously porn should be banned.

>arbitrarily
I dont think you know what that word means. Capitalism rewards you for working. I guess to a commie the concept of work is arbitrary

Let's slaughter all the Jews and than we can talk economics.

>Capitalism rewards you for working.
*Exploits

> A fair system is where everyone gets what they deserve
How is this fair at all? Sounds like you are trying to force unnatural standards on us.

So internalized racism is blacks killing other blacks?

Not an argument. I work I get money. I call it a reward and so do the majority of humans alive. How is it arbitrary if I literally have to put in labor to extract value?

Yes

this desu

Capitalism rewards merit and competence.

Only worthless, lazy fucks want to be rewarded for doing nothing.

Create value or fuck off and die.

yeah even niggers hate niggers

>In a random lottery, everyone has the same chance of winning - roughly equal to 1 by the number of lotteries. In Capitalism, different individuals have different probabilities of success depending on their race, gender, and social standing.
>So it isn't arbitrarily then.
Oooh hooo. Good one user, but since you're retarded, let me point out why you're assertion falls short. In the same post you just cited, here's what I said at the end
>However, time and again, capitalism has shown that monopolies form in the long run - since from an evolutionary perspective only those who are addicted to growth survive in the market - irrespective how much damage they cause others. Monopolies essentially set up a huge economic rent - the cost of entering and competing in the market becomes tougher and tougher. Add to this, the benefits people receive due to their social standing and financial background, it's easy to see that capitalism is not a fair system - those who win at the start, keep on winning irrespective how good the other gene sets are in the population.

Yes, if everyone had the same chance to succeed, forever and ever, it wouldn't be arbitrary. However, those who win at the start, keep on winning in capitalism and that makes the system arbitrary - you don't know who wins at the start and the effects cannot be reversed.

But nice try at a strawman. Top kek.

>But what if the parents of the kids wanted to spend their lives to make their kid's lives better?
Yeah, I made a mistake here. I meant to say make the estate tax a 100%, and not eliminate it. But coming to your point, yeah, that's fine. I'm fine with parents spending money on kids education to improve their chance of success. That doesn't make the system outright unfair. What makes it unfair is inheritence and continued support and opportunities from parents.

we need to remove all trade restrictions and deregulate all industries. no minimum wages, no licences. this can be achieved while maintaining personal responsibility.

So when and how are you going to insert "blame whitey" into this?

>I call it a reward
Call it what you want, you still aren't getting what your labour is worth

Love it when faggots who never lived in a socialist country shit-talk communism.Keep it up, child.

Another edgy kid thinking that real communism hasn't been tried. There were 39 communist countries, and guess what: we have only 5 now.
Are they rich and prosperous? No.

>Do you know what part of modern capitalism is forming these monopolies? It's funny how they only started showing up once the government started regulating the market.
That's not true user. In fact, the reason why monopolies form is because competition cannot arise as quickly as it's cannibalized by large companies.

>>Democratic communism.
>I prefer democratic absolute monarchy.
With a capitalist system? That's still fucked up.

You're right but the answer is fascism not communism.

>Are they rich and prosperous? No
They were worse before

Yes I am. Because individually my labor is worthless. It takes a manager to put my work together, and his worth is the sum of our labor. If I don't like this I can become my own boss.

Now explain how
>A fair system is where everyone gets what they deserve
Makes sense because this is another retarded assertion which you will no doubt not be able to support.

>Capitalism rewards individuals arbitrarily and is antithetical to evolution
Are you retarded

This. The entire economy is a fucking racket. If we brought RICO charges the entire country would shutdown.

>so not arbitrarily
Do you have a short attention span, or is this your pathetic attempt at trolling? Why don't you read the full post you faggot. Since you're an ADHD faggot, here let me complete the green text for you so that you can claim your bullshit question again
>However, time and again, capitalism has shown that monopolies form in the long run - since from an evolutionary perspective only those who are addicted to growth survive in the market - irrespective how much damage they cause others. Monopolies essentially set up a huge economic rent - the cost of entering and competing in the market becomes tougher and tougher. Add to this, the benefits people receive due to their social standing and financial background, it's easy to see that capitalism is not a fair system - those who win at the start, keep on winning irrespective how good the other gene sets are in the population.

100% estate tax just means a new class of trust fund babies (who control the communist state) get to benefit when anyone dies.
it doesn't eliminate the class structure. This corruption is well documented in countries that tried communism.
Some people will always be better than others. That's how evolution works. survival of the fittest.

>Arbitrarily

Life is essentially arbitrary. What works for one person will possibly not work for another. The fairest solution is randomness that can be effected based on actions of those within the system.

If it's such a good system why did it collapse?

>Capitalism rewards individuals arbitrarily and is antithetical to evolution
It rewards them based on their ability. People who have useful skills that are in high demand and intelligence will succeed under a capitalist system.
Big companies become increasingly inefficient and inevitably will become unprofitable to run and simply collapse. That is, unless the government bails it out, at which point you dont even have a free market.
This^

Do you think massive amounts of government regulation that companies need their own lawyers to do helps the small businesses who can't easily afford lawyers or the big businesses that have teams of lawyers?

I'm starting understand why Pinochet tossed you commies out of helicopters. Your stupidity is incurable and the only solution is to execute you all before you ruin another country.

I kill Jews and steal their shekels. I feel well paid for my labor.

>arbitrarily
make a statement to back this otherwise your argument is not actually an argument.

Also, why would Communism not be the same thing as turning an entire country into a single monopoly?

>capitalism is literally controlling what mother nature does

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