If Dio can stop time, then isn't he technically moving at infinite speed...

If Dio can stop time, then isn't he technically moving at infinite speed? How come everything he touches in stopped time doesn't explode from the infinite amount of kinetic energy he's exerting onto it?

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Because he doesn't move at infinite speeds, he stops time.

Because time is stopped, so he doesn't tansfer that energy.

But if he stops time, then how does he move?

His stand power lets him move in the stopped time.

By moving at infinite speed, exactly

You said that if he was, everything he touched would explode from the infinite amount of kinetic energy. So obviously that's not the case.

X divided by 0 is not infinite.
It's undefined. There is a difference.

He's not moving at infinite speed, everything else is stopped.
Diavolo doesn't time travel either.

How else would it work then? "He can move in stopped time" doesn't say anything about how physics would work while time was stopped, it doesn't make any sense.

Could DIO defeat Kira with BITEZ ZA DUSTO unlocked?

>why doesn't this made up power in anime explode the universe?

I got bad news for you kid

1) moving at light speed means having infinite kinetic energy. Infinite speed is not required for this sort of nonsense.
2) infinite energy does not result in an explosion. It results in a black hole of infinite size.
3) moving faster than light fucks with causality, so logic goes out of the window.
4) It's a fucking comic.

Because it's fucking magic, user. People can't piss sunlight because of the way they are breathing in real life, but in JoJo they say "fuck physics" and do it anyway.

Probably Dio. If Kira touches Dio once, then he wins. But Dio's too fast to let him do that. Killer Queen could touch him, but he'd have to get past The World first, which KQ is too weak to do.

Probably.

It's magic.

Dropped.

But the rules behind timestop don't make any sense. For example, when he touches objects, they just sort of float away. This implies that objects he touches in timestop temporarily come out of timestop. But then why couldn't Dio move when Jotaro put his hand on Dio's shoulder during timestop?

But that's exactly how Made in Heaven worked. It moved at infinite speed, therefore it could move within Jotaro's timestop. That's the only logical way this could happen.

I figured since Pucci was making time go faster, Jotaro just wasn't able to fully stop time as normal.

Yes, that's how Made in Heaven worked.
That's not how The World works.
If you honestly can't understand that Made in Heaven and The World are different Stands that work differently, then you're literally too retarded for JoJo, and that's saying a lot.

But you can't just say "The World moves in stopped time just because"; there has to be a physics-based reason behind it. If you write things without thinking of the causes behind them first, then that's just bad writing.

Explain using physics how one stops time. Moreover, explain using physics how ghosts can exist and interact with the physical world.
Otherwise shut the fuck up.

it's like when a video game enemy is too hard so they make a special condition for it like it doesn't respawn or the damage you deal carries over after you die instead of making it weaker, I don't know why they do it but they could compensate by him not healing or something to make it less OP

The area of effect just doesn't wrap around the user. There.

Anime only speedreaders need to neck themselves. They don't understand 「gravity」

>there has to be a physics-based reason behind it
No.

What's the physics-based reason behind a cat reincarnated as a plant or a stand that can open people as books?

Simple: whenever Dio stops time, The World transports him to a parallel universe where time is stopped. Then, once Dio makes all the changes he wants and time resumes, The World transports him to another parallel universe where these changes would take effect. It's just a limited version of D4C; quite easy to understand.

As for ghosts, those are clearly just extradimensional alien beings from an alternate universe temporarily phasing into ours because they're tied to their universal equivalent: the Stand user. They're made of energy most of the time, hence why they're intangible, but they can focus their energy particles into solid form when they really want to.

Stray Cat is just a plant-like fungus that takes over the cat's dead body and transforms it, reanimating its dead brain in the process. Heaven's Door can easily see people's memories without turning them into books, but it does so anyway so that Rohan can easily read them, since HD can't talk.

Or, perhaps, it's just magic.

Magic doesn't exist in Jojo, only Stands

>whenever Dio stops time, The World transports him to a parallel universe where time is stopped. Then, once Dio makes all the changes he wants and time resumes, The World transports him to another parallel universe where these changes would take effect. It's just a limited version of D4C; quite easy to understand.
Or simply, he stops time.
Because Stands are fucking magic.

This is autism.

Well so the fucking mask made of stone who changes you in a immortal who can make your eyeballs squirt lasers isn't magic.

Good to know.

It's not magic, the mask unlocks the hidden potential in your brain

you double nigger

To be fair, Space Ripper Stingy Eyes are lasers, it's just the liquid from your eyes shooting at incredibly hihg speeds because Vampires can control their bodies infinitely better than humans.
But the Stone Masks and the Red Stone of Aja and the Arrows are pure fucking magic, though.

you can't separate space from time, in reality it's spacetime rather than two separate things. He moves at impossible speeds.

he actually slows everything around him to near total standstill

Your brain can't make you immortal and shoot lasers through the eyes, no matter how unlocked it is.

Yeah, I know. I am just saying that a mask made of stone, like, just fucking stone, transforming you into a superbeing who can somehow control even the vitreous fluid inside your eyeballs and weaponize that shit is definitely magic as Merlin's nutsack.

nice pun

Even if you unlocked your brain potential with Houdini's fossilized penis you wouldn't change into the fucking stepchild of Superman and a Tzimisce like Dio.

You don't have vampirism hidden in your brain, user, you have autism. And it isn't even hidden, either.

If he did move at infinite speed in stopped time the moment DIO twitched a finger he would have infinite energy forming a universe sized black hole destroying the Earth...

And the universe...

And the Joestars unless Star Platinum punches him in the knee exactly once

>THIS is the Jojo fanbase

The mask is actually used to maximize the flow of Hamon through the user, hence why Hamon users can do similar things to vampires (regenerate wounds, control their body, increase their physical prowess, etc.), just on a lesser degree than vampires. The reason vampires are weak to Hamon is because they are already at the max capacity of Hamon their body can handle, and any more would be the equivalent of overdosing on it.

Nigga people in real life don't have fucking Hamon.

>You don't have vampirism hidden in your brain, user, you have autism. And it isn't even hidden, either.
You're ripping that faggot to shreds, thanks for the keks.

>solar energy doesn't exist in real life
Really nigga?

>Analyzing the science of jojo
>experting stands to be consistent, even to the reality of the series
You've made a terrible mistake.

Remember when Crazy Diamond suddenly gained the ability to "reform matter AND ENERGY" in order to beat Superfly?

Because that never was part of CD up to that point.

>There is absolutely no such thing as fantasy, everything has to be science fiction
You're the worst.

He's invoking minimum molecular energy in all objects, except for a thin aura that unstops time in a thin crust of air around his body. That's how he can move.

Not coming from your body like you have Chernobyl shoved up your ass because you are breathing just riiiiiiight.

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Well, maybe you could breathe just right, too, if you weren't a fat NEET shitposting all day instead of practicing your breathing.

>he hasn't stabbed stone spikes into his brain to become immortal
found the pleb

>applying common sense to jojo

Dio. Killer Queen is strong but is not as fast as The World and needs to many requirements to kill compared to The World. The World can stop time whenever the fuck it is necessary and just blow Kira's head off before he can even react.

Dude the man just wrote it because it was a fun and versatile ability. Like for fucks sake what is up with you.

>wanting consistent rules in your world is a bad thing
>this is the state of modern Sup Forums
Dear god...

I agree. Jojo does have consistent rules but Araki writes like a monkey in parts 1-6 so he breaks them every now and then.
If people think the show's charisma is enough to compensate asspulls then whatever, but it objectively is shit writting.

But wanting to apply advanced physics to a show that (it is well known) doesn't take itself too seriously and is just simple fun is just plain autistic.

>logical

With time stopping characters I've always gone with the explanation that they cover themselves in an aura closely shaped to their body and everything within that aura moves normally. So when they touch something, only the immediate part they're touching becomes temporarily unfronzen, and once the aura stops touching it it freezes again, allowing it to be interacted with without messing with everything else.


But of course, whether you like it or not the one true answer is that it's magic in a fictional story so it'll work however it's written. If that upsets you then so beat it (though I wonder why you only question this particular unrealistic part, and not things like how time is even stopped to begin with, or how people can manifest ghost spirits out of themselves). If you don't like it then don't watch it, but you're not going to suddenly convince people who do like it to suddenly change their mind and hate it because you "caught" the fact that something in the magical fiction wasn't realstic.

>there has to be a physics-based reason behind it
Please take your aspergers medicine.

that's how I take big hits of weed

...I didn't know that Carl watched anime

no

how do you know if you haven't tried it?

MAGIC

>doesn't make sense
That's what makes it bizarre

Because time stop is not an acceleration power. It's a phase shifting power.

>stopping time cant be used in fiction because we haven't found a way to do it in real life
Who's the real idiot

>therefore it could move within Jotaro's timestop
MiH couldn't move in Jotaro's timestop, retard. The duration of timestop was just shortened.

Simple: by reaching negative Kelvin temperature, you will remove all the energy from your environment all at once, and then everything will stop, including time.

>joe rogan experience
i'd trust the manga in matters of science over this video

Time slowing/stopping powers never make sense for exactly this reason. Just accept that it's hand waved by MAGIC! the same way it's hand waved as SCIENCE! in sci-fi media.

HAMON IS REAL

The characters don't know the actual properties of their bizarre abilities, they just use similar relatively understandable descriptions such as stopping time to describe what the hell is going on.

I wish I could act this autistic and trick anons into giving me (You)s.

You can start now, onii-chan.

D-dozo.

Here's a question, if time is stopped; how is he breathing?

The molecules around him are moving or some shit.

Vampires are already dead, he doesn't need to breathe

How does he talk when time is stopped, then?

>you can't separate space from time

you don't talk about science in absolutes, especially when no one can stop time

Explain Jotaro then.

Normally.

>>especially when no one can stop time
>Implying
Don't lump a God like me in with you mere mortals.

You guys realize it's only 10 seconds, right? You can't go 10 seconds without breathing?

I bet it all depends on whenever Kira tricks Dio or if Dio goes all out from the start. Whatever happens first.

True, but how does he talk when time is stopped, then?

I'm a fat fuck, of course not.

Oh jesus christ, another one of THESE autists.

Please stop time yourself and see how it works, otherwise, quit asking about it you fucking autist

you can't prove that everything he touches in stopped time would explode, or that he would exert an infinite amount of kinetic energy

checkmate bitch

If time is stopped, how can Dio only stop time for 10 seconds? If it's stopped, he shouldn't need to count.

Kira got mad fucked up by Jotaro's time stop, and Jotaro can barely stop time compared to DIO,

He has Star Platinum suck up extra air for him before timestop, then SP gives him mouth-to-mouth while the camera isn't looking so he can take a breather.

Oh boy, it's another one of THESE threads!