Conservatives are idiots

50. The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth. Apparently it never occurs to them that you can’t make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society without causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid changes inevitably break down traditional values.

Is he right, Sup Forums?

Yes. In general he is right about everything.

Being conservative does not mean you do not embrace technological progress. Dumb faggot

The point went right over your head, dumbshit.

The point is that conersvatives love to make rhetorical appeals, that may or may not be genuine, to traditionalism and yet support development in technology which will inevitably erode traditionalism as it introduces new material conditions to society.

Also I'm fairly certain ted kaczynski was not a conservative

>guy with an IQ of 167 is a retard

Damn we must be all amoebas then.

Read both his books. Guy predicted almost everything and used evidence to back it up all his criticisms.

gay prancing in your roo furry with a big black dildo rammed up your ass on top of the purple parade platform might just qualify as "idiot" level

excusing oneself because technology also qualifies as IDIOTIC lowlife

It didn't go over my head one bit, I understand that technological progress can change some aspects of humanities playing field. But it is not going to negate thousands of years of human nature. Conservative values are more involved in traditional human behavior and technological progress does not affect most aspect of that

Ok so what do we do smart guy blow everything up? Nice principles you faggot

Yeah right bud, if I took your argentine IQ test I'd probably score 300

Kaczynski is a certified genius.

"10. By “feelings of inferiority” we mean not only infe-
riority feelings in the strict sense but a whole spectrum
of related traits; low self-esteem, feelings of powerless-
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etc. We argue that modern leftists tend to have some such
feelings (possibly more or less repressed) and that these
feelings are decisive in determining the direction of mo-
dern leftism."
LMAO

I know all about TK, he was also part of MKULTRA and probably exposed to massive doses of LSD DMT, and god knows what else

His set of principles led him to bomb people, what good were these principles if the result was killing sprees

its funny how all these right wing retards who take pride in the accomplishments of white dudes before them failed to realize that almost all progress made by humanity was done by guys who were extremely liberal for their time

>asking a board that leans right and despises neo-cons
Of course he's right.

>exposed to massive doses of LSD DMT
You say that like it's a bad thing

>living in an unnatural way doesn't impact human nature
wew

Doesn't have to be. He's /ourguy/
Though arguably he was harsher on liberals than he was on conservatives.

This

I guess people like this one are the result of despair mixed with ingenuity with a dash of red-pilling. Making compelling arguments but deciding that it's not worth it and giving in to the demise.

>Liberals don’t care about liberty
>Conservatives don’t conserve anything
Yes, it’s been an epidemic for years.

what good are principles if all you do is talk about them online?

>/ourguy/
Kaczynski was against Nazism he refers to them as 'brainwashed' numerous times within his manifesto.

The only thousands of years of nature for humans is our innate Biology, our reflexes, and the like. Culture and how society operates is reliant on material conditions, namely how economic production is carried out.

You can take the same human, and place him in different economics systems (capitalism, socialism, feudalism, hunter-gatherering, etc.) and he will act radically different depending on what conditions he’s placed under for his self survival and the betterment of his community.

Material conditions determine culture, government, ideology, and the like. If technology changes those conditions, then the culture and ideology and government are irrevocably altered.

This includes conservatism.

LOL COOL STORY NOG

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I've read his shit, all of it, and he dwells on a worst case scenario, and concludes what's coming: you're the human battery in matrix in the pod.

Good read but it's like global warming - the world of humans is ending soon...then despite all the theories, and all the years, it doesn't turn out that way at all.

>progress

You're a moron. You don't understand his argument. Let me explain it so your average IQ brain can comprehend it.

1) One of the central components of conservatism, in all of its various iterations, is the preservation of traditional, age old social mores.
2) This component, which all conservatives profess to defend and uphold, is negated by technological advancement, because technology reshapes society and how people behave
3) Thus, it follows, that conservatives contradict themselves. They can't have both. They need to choose.

Hope you've understood this brainlet level explanation, made just for a little brainlet like you.

And does having say, a self-drving car, require me to change my moral beliefs?

Those traditions evolve regardless of technology change. The morons fighting for these values, were different just 100 years ago. Those values in turn evolved from those that came 100 years before. Chances are that the next 100 years will completely change us and yes, technology will be the main factor.

>They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth
I'm pretty sure the invention of cars, smart phones, and other such technologies doesn't have anything to do with the destruction of the family and the white race

And that's where you are wrong.
Take the television for example.
People, who otherwise would have been content or satisfied in their existence, can now fill their hearts with new never ending want. Now they live a life believing the grass is always greener on the other side. A wife who would have otherwise been content, can now brainwash herself into believing she needs more or something else.
This mechanism has been increased 1000 fold by the internet.

Too bad you're incorrect, lefty shit for brains..

Kazynski's main argument is that humans have needs to exert personal power, to be happy and have a life, and that with the looming technology, all human beings except for the elite few will be reduced to worthless cogs in the giant superstructure.

Despite your trips. No you idiot. Technological progress and economic growth do not require the decay of values.

Values are timeless. Some values have been thought of as important for an honest and happy life since ancient times.

Honesty, Integrity, Commitment, Courage, Hardwork, Truth.

There will never be a day were these values are not important as they are inherit to living a good human life.

Jesus.

it's just another libturds excuse for getting fucked in the ass, shooting up, murdering babies, screaming you're a nazi and trying to destroy their life etc.

it's just an excuse "we can't help it, technology", see ! god damned nazi alt right conservos want the stone age, hate science, etc etc

>TV and the Internet brainwash people into being leftists
>So we should just become leftists without being brainwashed first

>Too bad you're incorrect, lefty shit for brains..
Literally how?

Expect leaps of technological advancements have stagnated to smaller phones and mastering heart transplants and such to keep Boomers alive. If it wasn't for private enterprise, we wouldn't even be exploring space in any meaningful matter today either.

Except I mean.

technological progress allowed us to be taxed enough to support hoards of refugees and niggers
technological progress allowed the tvjew to broadcast into every living room in america daily
technological progress spread jobs and manufacturing outside the small communities people lived in for generations, now we have loads of elderly people without their children around to take care of them

everything decayed from technological progress and now society relies on it for logistics to keep it all afloat

we lose a bit of ourselves everyday we carry our smartphones around and get datamined for targeted ads and other invasive schemes
commercials are being made to hack our systems into consumerism of products we don't even need.
If we don't continue growth the whole thing collapses on itself

>can’t make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society without causing rapid changes in

Proof ?

U just have to find a new finding / innovation.

Actually its the other way around, you dimwit/leftist : new technology and economy changes society. Obviously!

I have a counter question : why are u leftards such intelectual cripples ?

And what does that have to do with ESTROGEN in our fucking water supply? Feminizing the men, turning the fucking frogs gay? Grown men are growing breasts and lactating ?

it's not that you should be against technology but you should respect it and understand the consequences

Conservatism was a failed movement from the beginning, much like Libertarnianism. Both are largely economic movements that disregard everything else as secondary issues. Libertarians are already getting btfo'd on a regular basis that they know without going full fascist they'll never come close to their pipe dream economy. Conservatism is simply running out of steam that it gathered long ago in the duopoly of politics where they've played the part for 150 years as the party that always loses and always caves in, thus conserving nothing in the end.

Liberalism is a unique ideology that binds glue that holds the marxist left and the conservatives together. One openly admits treason to your face and that they'll do whatever is necessary to commit treason in order to win, which is noteworthy at least in its honesty. The other side is far worse. The conservative facilitates the traitor to commit his treason in the first place.

If I had one bullet and I had the choice between a Reaganite or a Shilldawg, the Reaganite gets the bullet. Every-time.

LMAO
so the decadent societies thousands of years old, they just went to lib shit left ass fucking because, well, stupid fucking queers are defective

Kaczynski didn't say anything Rousseau and a dozen others hadn't said already.

sure thang jackassedidiot
demolib fuckheads have lost massively in the past decade, thousands of state seats and governorships and all sorts of control.

The silent majority HAS BEEN ON A RAMPAGE OF ASS KICKING FOR A DECADE

Nazi Germany was technologically decades ahead of other world powers at the time. My grandfather who studied engineering at MIT in the 1930s had to learn German, because all technological advancements at the time were coming out of Germany - English/American engineering was about 2 decades behind the Germans.

Nazi Germany was the epitome of traditionalism, and yet at the same time was strides ahead of the rest of the world in every scientific field.

Just to name a couple items from a long list of the rapid technological progress that came out of Nazi Germany: the first synthetic fuel, the jet engine, ballistic missiles, the assault rifle.

There is no correlation between traditionalism/conservatism and the slowing of technological progress. If there is any correlation, it is the opposite of what OP's hypothesis suggests.

literally branlet

Yes, obviously. Remove the skill and learning involved in a task and it loses its significance. Not just driving, but say, cultivating the land to feed your family for instance.

Please tell me you're younger than 20.

Then why do so few people care about them anymore? Because they don't have to, image and status have become far more important (and they likely always were).

Yes, he was right.

His criticism of leftism is also well-taken. The guy logically predicted the outcome of western society.

His vision becomes relevent, especially his considerations of being, in some sense, enslaved to technology. I don't recall if Uncle Ted talks about AI or not, but his general considerations of the dangers of technology speak volumes about the current problems with social media.

Pardon my reddit spacing.

wtf are you talking about? I don't "cultivate the land to feed my family". I go to fucking Costco.
And if I don't have to learn a particular task because of technology, that frees me up to learn something more useful.

You are faggot and you post buttshit thinking you're some kind of intellectual.

>Nazi Germany was the epitome of traditionalism

Lol. Neo-traditionalism is not and can never be coherent ideology. What is the traditionalists' program? What actual changes toward the traditional will be brought about?

>can get a gf because autism
>blames the world
>setting up the bomb
>write philosophical diarrhea to rationalize being a virgin with no friends
He was a poltard before 4chin existed.

Human sacrifice of millions of people twas just their payment to Moloch for all that technical advancement.

So you're free you become a (slightly more bitter than average) cog in the machine of modernity. Great way to preserve the meaningful parts of our historic existence.

Everyone except nazis know that.

He wasn't smart enough to avoid being caught. So who cares about this dead end loser?

This guy was born after the invention of electricity, the telephone, motorcar, airplane, and television. He was always too late for his protestations.