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Gun supporter (mainly burgers) status:
>unequivocally, eternally BTFO

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>MUH VAGOOBY

What's with the gender essentialism? Not all women have those parts.

Twitter screencaps should be an instant ban.

>90% of Sup Forumstard Trump supporters gone

Worth it

Post Doom Pauls

>bragging about the knowledge you just got from your biology class you had yesterday.
That's the kind of cunt this is.

We get it.
Guns kill people
And women kill people.
News at 11

this is why people think liberalism is a mental illness

THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FUCKING VAGINA, THEY WANT YOU TO STOP KILLING BABIES FOR FUCK SAKE.

I don't get this the gop has never banned vaginas you stupid mong

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>female reproductive system
>female

This. I ve always found that attacking lefties from the left is always more effective. Call them a bigot for excluding females with penises.

women kill more kids than guns and cancer combined

>it's hard to explain how ovaries and uterus work

Right wing men BTFO

Can we ban assault women?

well since I am not a total retard, I can and do remember the female reproductive system and its parts

do normies simply forget everything they see in school? fucking retards I want this fucking planet and humans exterminated

>implying that would be difficult for anyone who graduated high school
>is a "computer geek. Sports stats nerd."
>has only seen exterior female anatomy in Olympic gymnastics
Where to even begin?
Here, it looks like this: Y

hopefully best korea will unleash havoc on your ass sooner than later

Liberals: women should have the right to drive
Me: *pulls out a pencil* explain how an internal combustion engine works

>there are no women in the GOP

They used this same excuse on ron paul
Ron paul is an obstetrician

Takeshima is mine

>you have to draw a cunt to confirm that life is life

What is this? Strawman 101?

2ez

Fuck your gun control
Fuck abortion

This

>muh vagina

No one is saying abortions are full auto. Women have the pull the trigger every time.

Anatomic and Physiologic Issues
There was little concern over the younger adolescent and her
ability to physically withstand the invasive procedure compared
with a middle-age or elderly patient; however, almost all surgeons
remarked on the penoscrotal hypoplasia or limited penile shaft
size that would ensue after the use of puberty-suppressing
gonadotropin-releasing hormone analogues, sometimes for as
long as 3 years. Two surgeons who reported operating on minors
commented,
“
.
they are coming in after being put on blockers,
so they have 11-year-old genitalia
”
(surgeon 9) and
“
.
you are
really doing vaginoplasty on a micropenis
”
(surgeon 16). Most
participants emphasized that the surgical techniques were the
same for all patients no matter the age; of those who had per-
formed the procedure on several minors, the use of
fl
ank skin
grafts most commonly resolved the problem of inadequate tissue
availability. In other reported measures, surgeon 2 implanted a
scrotal tissue expander that required periodic infusion during 2
months, and surgeon 14 used donor tissue matrix (LifeCell,
Branchburg, NJ, USA), deeming it
“
nicely successful
”
and
thereby avoiding patient exposure to external
fl
ank scarring. The
alternative procedure of using sigmoid- or ileum-derived grafts to
create the neovagina was seen as a last resort by a few participants
who stated diversion colitis, excessive secretion, persistent odors,
and potential leakage of stool into the peritoneum as some of the
concomitant morbidities.

Republicans: we need guns to secure our nation from a tyrranical government

Also republicans: gibs more money to defense to make the government more capable of total global tyrrany

Well?

100000000% psyops

Psychological and Contextual Concerns
An overwhelming majority of surgeons cited psychological
maturity as the main criterion for adolescent patient selection,
stating
“
Age is arbitrary. The true measures of how well a patient
will do are based on maturity, discipline and support
”
(surgeon
11). Most participants emphasized that mental maturity was
related to the ability to understand the stressors of undergoing
surgery and expectations of postoperative self-care, particularly
the commitment to a consistent dilatation schedule to maintain
patency of the neovagina:
The biggest concern is, will they be mature enough to be
able to take care of themselves after surgery. Not just having
the surgery done. Will they do what they need to do after
surgery maintain the vaginal depth involved? In actuality,
I don
’
t think it is age dependent, it is the maturity of thepatient. An 18-year-old goes off to college and leaves the
parents. They leave that protective environment and
everything becomes less important to them in terms of the
dilatation and care. Some of my biggest struggles have not
been with the 16-year-old group because they are still at the
parents
’
house
—
it is the 18-year-olds who disappear and go
to college within a few months after their surgery. Those are
the patients who are most likely to lapse in their aftercare.
(Surgeon 9)

The con
fl
uence of undergoing vaginoplasty and leaving home
to become a college student in the same year was seen by many as
problematic:
Oftentimes, a child in the United States comes in after or
during their senior year in high school; they want surgery
over the summer and they want to go off to a dormitory in
September, in their
fi
rst year of college, which is a disaster.
And that is a more important situation than just the age of
the patient. What is going on socially with the patient is
more important than the age. (Surgeon 16)
I have found that it is very dif
fi
cult when the patients have
to transition once they are in college.
.
Plus with their
busy schedules and their busy lifestyles, it is very dif
fi
cult
for them to adhere to their dilation schedule. So the reason
why I decided to operate on people younger than 18, is that
I would prefer that they have their gender reassignment
surgery done while they are still at home and their parents
can help them adhere to their schedule until a signi
fi
cant
period of time has passed so they will not compromise their
results. I base it on very strong family support, very strong
letters from their psychologist and their behavioral health
therapist and that is really how I make the decision. You
also need to take into account the maturity of the individual
and whether they are at a point where they are mature
enough to understand the seriousness of the surgery and the
seriousness of adhering to all of the post-op instructions so
that they maximize their results. (Surgeon 15)
Some surgeons viewed timing the procedure before college
attendance as a harm reduction measure:

congress does not legally have the power to legislate any form of gun control. all laws infringing on the right to keep and bear arms are unconstitutional. anyone legislator that votes to enact these laws should be hung for treason. any LEO/prosecutor/judge that has arrested/tried/found anyone guilty for keeping and bearing arms should be hung for treason.

Younger patients who have the support of their families,
support of their parents, and can have the operation while
they are still at home, as opposed to being alone at school
or at work, anecdotally tend to do much better than
someone who is alone and doesn
’
t have appropriate
support. (Surgeon 5)
There could be bene
fi
ts that could outweigh the risks
when you look at the demographics of women who are in
their late teens wanting to have GCS prior to going to
college, or prior to entering into very sensitive social roles.
(Surgeon 17)
Participants also pointed to the importance of a safe and
af
fi
rmative environment in which to recuperate (ie, being cared
for by supportive parents at home who monitor the recovery
process):
The added issue with the under 18 patient is parental
involvement, and I personally would want to have the
parents on board. Particularly if the child is still living at
home with the parents. The place people go back to after
surgery is critically important for the result. And that
’
snot
just for GCS
—
if someone is going back to a hostile place
and the place is not supportive of the surgery, it is often
likely that the person has a less than optimal result.
(Surgeon 18)
Opinions were sometimes divided as to the adolescent
undergoing the procedure for mainly social or sexual purposes:

The bene
fi
t is not because they want to have sex, but
because they can fully socially transition with their peers
before they go off to college
—
assuming they want to go to
college. (Surgeon 14)
I personally know of two young women who are trying to
transition. They are seeing mental health providers and
endocrinologists. They are 16 and there is a real struggle
there because there is a sense of urgency on their part and
they are being held back. I get that, they need to go through
some steps. But I know that they do not want to do a full
transition later in their life; they want to do this so that they
can be intimate in college. (Surgeon 17)
In addition, a few participants urged caution, suggesting that
some adolescents engage in gender exploration as part of a
developmental phase and as part of the current zeitgeist:
I think it goes along the lines of a young person
’
smind
still being in the developmental stage. Things may happen
and they may reorient their thinking, not just whether
they are trans or not, but they may reorient their thinking
about which surgery will serve their transgender needs. It
is not a binary or tertiary model where they are just gay,
straight, bisexual, or trans; there are a whole host of colors
in-between. Many trans patients do not want GCS
—
it
couldbethatat15theydo,andat25theydonot.
(Surgeon 18)

Depending on how old they are, there are a lot of classes
that adolescents, even preadolescents in elementary schools,
are getting these days. And they are trying to
fi
gure out if
they are doing it because it is a new norm, versus what they
really want. I have seen some of my patients
’
children go
through phases of in and out, of thinking transgender. So
that would be my concern
—
is it because it is popular now?
(Surgeon 19)
Consent and Risk Management
While participants had a clear understanding of the legal
constraints in obtaining informed consent speci
fi
cally from the
adolescent, there were a few different approaches to securing
consent from the family unit. Parents or legal guardians were
invariably signators; however, Surgeon 2 also added the
requirement of the young patient writing an essay about the
reasons for wanting to undergo the procedure and
“
describe what
her feelings are in her identity as a person.
”
Surgeon 16 explicitly
required the parents to become active participants in the post-
operative dilatation process, or else the patient would not be
deemed
“
a good candidate for surgery.
”
Other participants
requested multiple or longer of
fi
ce visits when going over the
various written consent forms, ranging from 5 to 40 pages, and
always in the presence of parents or legal guardians. The parents
’
marital status was often a concern, because most surgeons were
aware of divorce creating a change in guardianship or custody of
the minor. Comparatively few participants addressed the issue of
postsurgical infertility in the interviews; among those who
reported having discussions with the patient and her family, there
was the recognition that the topic had been explored beforehand
with other practitioners or
“
not often something that is at the
forefront of people
”
(Surgeon 4).

All participants adhered strictly to the SOC by requiring
separate evaluation letters from
two mental health professionals
clearing the minor for surge
ry. Many emphasized that a
recommendation from an unfamiliar psychotherapist was not
acceptable; in addition, a third letter from an independent
psychiatrist or the patient
’
s pediatric endocrinologist was
occasionally required to bolster the surgeon
’
scon
fi
dence that
the minor had been thoroughly ve
tted. The professional quality
of each letter also was very impo
rtant and should demonstrate
the writer
’
squali
fi
cations as an expert in transgender issues.
Surgeon 12 clari
fi
ed:
We ask for two letters. One of them has to be from
someone who has an established relationship with the
patient. I don
’
t remember exactly what the wording is, but
they can
’
t just go to one session and say,
“
Hey, I
’
m trans-
gender, I want surgery.
”
We do read the letters and we also
do con
fi
rm that the letters are real. You can imagine
(laughs). We call the therapist
’
sof
fi
ce and make sure that
our patient is a patient of theirs. We just get con
fi
rmation
that the letters are real and that it
’
s not something they just
typed up on their own, you know. The letter has a certain
verbiage and anybody who is experienced with treating
gender issues should know the language of the
fi
nal letter of
recommendation. Not just,
“
there were three monthly
sessions.
”

So you're saying the populace needs bigger and better guns? Nice

trust in the diagnostic expertise of mental health providers.
Surgeon 3 concurred:
I rely on them entirely. I need to make sure that the patients
have realistic expectations, that they are not
.
I need to
judge their maturity level and that they can handle pretty
signi
fi
cant stress of any surgical procedure. But I don
’
t
pretend to be a psychologist or have any expertise in the
diagnosis of gender dysphoria, that
’
s a decision that needs
experts.
However, a few pointed out that they were sometimes just as
attuned to potential concerns as mental health professionals and
would assume some responsibility for evaluating the patient
’
s
psychological condition:
I scrutinize the letters that the mental health providers
forward to me. If they are negative, I rely a lot on them
because that has a lot of value. But since they are almost
never negative, I may rely a lot less on them! Then I rely on
my own experience. I cover everything that I believe should
have been covered in the letter, and then I go through that
list of capacity, development, all those issues in my check-
off list. I do this because any other way is a disservice to
the patient; I
’
m responsible for all that. (Surgeon 20)

>sensible argument
>MUH VAGINA
fucking roasties

get your head out of your ass. ever hear of vietnam or afganistan. farmers with rifles. dumbest comment of the day, congrats.

Ever hear of biological weapons; drones and lethal autonomous weapons systems? All they would have to do is introduce a hypervirulent flu and millions would die without a shot. Also they could impose martial law on the survivors. Do you think they would give up power so easy? They wouldnt waste their time on a street fight.

I don't get it?
Is that supposed to be difficult for me to Do?
More importantly do they think I didn't learn about the female reproductive system in fucking grade school?
Sometimes I wonder how intelligent these people are when they use basic anatomy questions as counterarguments.

fpbp

underrated post

I thought the kamikazes were japanese.

>the government would use biological weapons against an insurrection
lmao are you retarded? that would bring global intervention faster than you can blink. Every country would start funneling weapons in to the rebels if that happened

if drawing your genitals was considered a good argument, I'd have done a lot better on my secondary school homework

Where is this faggot trying to go with muhgina?

That's extremely easy considering males have the female body beat into them from middle school.

Agreed

Easy as fuck.

>draw the Dodge logo
>make up bullshit about uvulas and cervix

do they think that would be hard??

lol always a winning strategy

try to explain your balls

>The current state of liberal arguments

..So they admit they don't know what they are talking about?
That's not how an argument works you silly cunt. When someone explains the fact the gun isn't automatic and you retort with MUHGINA you lose all credibility.
Get some dick, have a baby and find some purpose in your life.

I don't even think most women could do that

3rdPBP

>thinking a weaponised disease couldnt be blamed on terrorists or just seen as a tragedy

Lookhow hard they are pushing the flu narrative already

that isn't that hard to do if you made it out of high school

correlation not found

I could do it

Any other medfags suddenly remembered how dusty their anatomy knowledge has become but can't be bothered to pull out an atlas of anatomy to do the long overdue revision?

>please draw and label all the components of an AR 15 and instruct the use, assembly, and disassembly.
>rrrreeeeee I don't have to know anything about guns to ban them, MUH VAGINA!!!!
Why are they so fucking stupid?

youtu.be/7RdAhTxyP64

I like the roastie differentiation here, user.

>fuck up and show your ignorance
>point out someone else might be ignorant about some other unrelated topic

top tier debate

honestly, i have no idea what she's trying to say here

explain it to me please. are vaginas regulated in the unites states?

Cells are split via meiosis and stored on the back side of the testicle. They are connected to tiny tubes that send the sperm up where they are mixed with semen from the prostate during ejaculation. The testicles are outside of the main body in order to regulate temperature due to the fact that heat damages sperm cells. The skin around them is loose, and contracts/expands due to temperature to also protect the sperm cells.

The testicle is filled with nerves which is why damaging them is so painful. This forces the individual to protect this important organ in the body forced to sit outside of the main body connected by tubes, blood vessels, and skin.

They also have glands that provide testosterone to the body

Strawpoll it

Funny, I can sure draw an unborn baby

Why do Americans even need AR-15?

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>Muh vagina
Worst Korea continues to live up to its name.

Sport shooting, hunting, self/home/community defense, keep the government in check. Any more questions?

>South Korea

>need
Bill of Rights not needs.
And they're pretty fun and useful.

This is the right response

So your saying we beed a new ethno nationalist party sounds good to me

ban assault vaginas when?

Lucky for her, many in the GOP are former medical doctors

>t. Brainlet who hasn't thought of the ramifications of the bullshit he spews

Okay now draw and label a parts diagram for an mg-42 and you pay for my access to it until you get it right

Immorality looks like a dead baby, not an AR-15

ban fingers

>No ar15, no opinion.
Two can play that game.

ok lets talk

Kek

...

Woah, thats deep, really makes me think about how guns have more rights than abortions. Just wow.

It takes 5 minutes with the proper book to learn about either of those things.

>Hatchery
Gave me a hearty chuckle

Thats a false equivalency if i ever saw one

Lost it at "Nut Hut"

>A republican senator draws a giant penis right in the middle of the senate
Please make this happen