Why should I watch it?

Why should I watch it?

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It's one of the most complex anime, you'll ever have the experience of watching

because you want to daughter the shit out of her.

you shouldn't, it's wank

To brag to your internet friends how intelligent you are you watched such a DEEP and thought-provoking show.

>there is people in Sup Forums that haven't watched lain yet

the absolute state of 4chin

I think it's worth watching for aesthetic and direction. It's not the most entertaining anime but still a memorable 4/10

It's actually fairly straight-forward.

It's a documentary on modern society and the internet narrated by a cute girl, why the fuck haven't you watched it yet?

An alien shows up for about 5 seconds

>It's a documentary on modern society and the internet

But it isn't

>It's actually fairly straight-forward

You would think, but it's clouded by technology so much that people mistake it as part of the point, and when you actually go back and try to explain everything that happened, you find yourself going deeper down the rabbit hole.

Not really. I don't need to explain everything that happened for I have seen it.

>It's actually fairly straight-forward.
Sure it is.

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>documentary
i think you wanted to say commentary right?

It's called a joke, you dinguses.

I mean every small detail. Lain hallucinating smoke from her fingers and teleporting in the first episode, "Chisa" telling her to commit suicide and then for some reason turning back around in the last episode and telling her that suicide is the wrong way to go, etc.. If you want to find the single truth behind the series and its related media, you have to go through and explain everything within that viewpoint, and when you do, you'll find a lot of interesting things that lead in different directions. Apologies for not using spoiler tags last time. It wasn't anything major, but still.

It'll make you smarter.

Or just improve your taste.

Both are essentially the same thing though.

Durarara!!! is actually better in esoteric symbolism and explaining group think through mass media. It's also better at trying to show how that the powers that be try to manipulate it to control the very being of people.

Lain is just a TL;DR compared to Durarara!!!

>better at showing
Better through subtlety or the opposite?

It's the only anime worth watching.

For the first 2-3 season I believe through subtlety and the 4th season is more direct if I remember correctly. It has a lot of action and characters, which is fun and can keep you engaged, but try to think of them as nations or ideals instead of just characters. Look for symbolism too throughout.

End of the millenium spirit and aesthetic. Very refined and atmospheric. There's a story about cyber jesus in there but it doesn't matter

I haven't seen season 2 yet as sort of a vendetta against there not being a season 2 of baccano instead.

Lain isn't really about that though. Maybe you might enjoy it better on another rewatch, but if it is the pacing that's getting you, you probably won't.

computers n shit

>not a speculative commentary on the human condition and existential mysticism
Just because it's cyb as fuck doesn't mean it's about the internet

I really hate it when I get mixed messages about a show. Some people say it's genius while others say it's retarded. What the fuck am I supposed to interpret from that?

You're supposed to think for yourself or watch a show that tells you to think for yourself, before deciding.

form your own opinion you stupid fuck, it's called critical thinking

Watch it and decide for yourself. Anything that's not moe will always be shat on here.

I know this is just another understanding or interpretation out of a 1000, but I believed Lain to be a self-insert character for lonely, conceited people who think so highly of themselves as to be like God. People who take literally thousands of pictures of themselves and post online and compare themselves to others, (like in the first few episodes where people with only partial form are complementing lain on how she's whole) is the age that we kinda live it. People see themselves as something they aren't, even to the point to where they think of themselves as God subconsciously. The government officials in the show where trying to shape this egoism into something that they could control, but they failed.

I guess you could say it's like a microscope pointing at an individual while Durarara!!! gives a little bigger picture to the whole thing. I think the government does control it more to a certain extent than what Lain portrays it as.

See, Eiri was the only one really trying to become God, though he had transhumanist supporters who thought things should be reverted back to a primordial state of connection between all humans. One of the messages of Lain was anti-transhumanism and how Eiri was wrong about humans being obsolete. I really don't know how you thought of Lain herself as conceited with how she's portrayed. Another important theme is human to human connection. Note all the kissing and hugging in the OP. It'll perhaps be more clear if you look at the translation of the game, but Lain is in one way a representation of an introvert. Because she actually WAS special in the end (and this can be interpreted in a couple of different ways - I have my own personal belief about what it is that makes her special), Eiri and the Knights tormented her to try and accomplish their goal. Once she appreciates herself more thanks to Alice, frees herself from Eiri's manipulation, and decides to sacrifice herself, she is doomed to be lonely forever. However, she realized a certain metaphysical truth in the end and was subsequently able to visit people anyway.

>I have my own personal belief about what it is that makes her special)
What's that user?

If the thread's still up by the time I get back I'll talk about it.

If you have to ask, you shouldn't.
It's enjoyable if you invest the thought into it.
Obviously if you're asking, you're going to halfass it and it'll be ""boring"" to you.

>thought
I think this is a pretty common misconception. There's not much active thought that goes on when I watch Lain. It's all feeling and intuitive response. There's no other anime that really does what Lain does.

Keep in mind that this show was made when the internet was still a thing only 1-3% of the population had access to. Paid per minute. Search machines didn't exist yet, they used catalogues of websites instead. Cooperating universities linked each other in web rings. In the common popular mass culture, automated global communication networks still belonged into the realm of cyberpunk and hacker fiction.

People back then unironically believed in ideals like radical freedom of information, and uncensored, open global discourse. They didn't know it would turn out like Sup Forums and Sup Forums and onion child porn sites. They had no concept of automated spam, of click bait and viral memes, of kids growing up with chronic sensory overstimulation and an attention span of a fruit fly. Everything was simple and naive back then. They had nothing but theories and futurist dreams.

So you can love Lain.

There's cult of this show in the west for years, but was it even popular in Japan?

>not bragging to real life friends

I had one quit part way through because they 'couldn't find the time' then finish the entirety of Toradora in the same week
Fuck talking to normalfags. They were/are a mistake.

>having friends to brag to

It predicted the current state of the internet years before MGS 2.

Seriously user. Stop putting vaseline all over your screenshots. There's better rips of /ptg/ out there.

there's something about the atmosphere and the subject matter that is just very palpable. it's very emblematic of the 90s with the early advent of the internet and grunge and people being unaware of how much this technology would soon be changing the way we socialise.

my favourite things about it are the hum of the power cables and also the way the outside world is just pure white and all the shadows have these weird red undulating effect to them.

it's boring as fuck and it's concepts are only interesting to a teenager or a pseud.

madokaposters are the worst.

What's an onion child?

I wholeheartedly agree. I do think it's still worth a watch though purely for aesthetic

And you don´t seem to understand

because lain is cute

i'll use brackets to make it easier to understand
[onion] [child porn] [sites]
its not [onion child] [porn sites]

Oh, okay. What's onion porn?

I've gone into long and scatterbrained explanations of it here before and I don't know how much sense it'll make without going through each episode and laying out what I believe are clues, but I think Lain is basically a broken off piece of a natural and non-sentient "something" representing the psychological and physical connections between all people. You could call her a god, but I liken her more to a natural force. This to me explains why people under stress in both the game and the anime tend to have a mental breakdown and attempt suicide around her, because something like that around someone who's already in a poor mental state overwhelms their psyche. A good deal of these people in the game at least are having relationship or social (connection) issues if I'm remembering correctly. Some people believe Eiri when he said that he created her as software, but I think he's lying so as to not give her too much of a sense of free will. What I think he did instead was find her "essense", which broke away and attached itself to the wired because it was connecting people together over a network, and created a human body for her, making her sentient. He himself said when he turned into a pile of guts that he found her in the wired just floating around. One of the tragedies with this is that, though she has everything to do with connecting to people on a natural level, she instead manifests as an introvert, and ends up being lonely again when she sacrifices herself. There was a Lain game that was being worked on at the same time as the anime, and I think the writers struggled to really cohesively convey what they were going to convey with the game in the anime. I'd recommend looking at some translations, because I think that despite it being a different timeline, it still makes some sense with the anime and gives some sad insight into Lain as a person.

Cause you could feel superior

My explanation is that Lain is The Word or the Holy Spirit in the sense of the third member of the Christian Trinity. Not that Lain is a Christian show, but that is her relationship to reality.

Literally this

>young pedobait protagonist

>not moe

fuck fedora posters

Don't you have some right winger to punch, anti- free speechantifa-user?

because it's lame

What if you watch it and find out by yourself you dumb dumb

give me an anime you rate higher than 6/10

legitimately curious

Prison School was my most recent 10

i don't believe you're him

or you're baiting

I didn't really like it, because it tries too hard to be deep, but lack consistency. The anime throws metaphores and allegories to you, but there's no real story going on. Just a girl becoming less and less social as days pass, there's the whole growing up theme + having different identities between the virtual world and the real one but that's not that good actually.

FLCL did much much better with different themes by having a simple story you can follow and plenty of subtext you can decrypt if you really want to. Lain doesn't offer this alternative, you either try to get it (and it's not that deep) or you're left behind.

Prison School was genuinely good. I held off on it and only recently completed it. Again though. You can't compare oranges and apples. But you can score both.

Lain is overrated shit that is told in an overly convoluted and confusing fashion for something that shouldn't even be that complicated.

I'm actually kinda glad the director of it died, because that means in the slim chance that Despera ever gets made, it won't be directed by a hack who doesn't know how to present a story.

There's no ascending to be a god or anything, it's just wank about paranoia, every guy in the street is an ominous figure, and she thinks she is watched because of what she does with computer. It's all about when virtual worlds take more place than the real one hence the suicide thing at the start of the series. She severs her tie to the real world by killing herself in the video game with a gun

Lain was glorified masturbation (with a nice soundtrack but still masturbation)

Find a single flaw with prison school. Beautifully directed, structured and animated.

To listen to Duvet.

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Don't you have a sister-wife and some inbred kids to beat up on meth or a Trump shrine to pray to, muh-freezed-peach muricunt-user?