Could someone please explain to me the cultural impact of this anime better than the Wikipedia page? It only mentions how footage was uploaded to YouTube a lot, but I get the feeling it's got a lot more to say for itself.
I only just discovered it. Watched the first 4-5 episodes (chronologically!) and I'm kinda bored, but Harumi is awesome.
So did this anime invent slice of life? Did it invent waifus? Did it invent common anime tropes? Any help would be appreciated.
What is this, you trying to write a paper or something?
>I only just discovered it.
>Harumi
> did this anime invent slice of life? Did it invent waifus?
Kill yourself.
Nah man, just curious. I feel like I'm severely out of the loop on this thing.
>So did this anime invent slice of life?
Yes.
>Did it invent waifus?
Yes.
>Did it invent common anime tropes?
Yes. In fact Haruhi invented anime, and also fire, and the very concept of culture.
popularized the highschool club formula and ironically perfected it too since every copycat that came after didn't capture what made it good
>invent slice of life
no, if anything it plays with the sol formula
Deep within me I want to believe that this is bait
Fair enough but the waifu question wasn't serious in the slightest.
This reaction is what I mean though. It's like I'm supposed to already know all this stuff, like it's so ingrained into the community that it's hard to believe someone would even ask about it.
The truth is I haven't explored anime a lot until recently.
Fact is, scientists have recently proven even invertebrates have a primitive form of Haruhiism.
>The truth is I haven't explored anime a lot until recently.
Oh we know.
I figured it must've echoed something that came before, since Haruhi recruited Mikuru because "every club needs a moe character" or something.
Thanks for the proper response!
It had a huge cultural impact on my dick. But seriously I can see why the craze that surrounded it back in the day seems ridiculous now since everyone and their mothers imitated ideas from the show afterwards.
I popularized a lot of tropes that many anime use today. Many series since then have taken the popular ideas from the series and made their own or expanded about the certain tropes they have taken. For all that is being said, up until it aired there was no anime like it and was a unique and interesting series but since then, with copy cat shows and other sieres expanding upon the tropes, newfags, who only watch anime made during SAO and after, see it has boring since they have seen the popular tropes of Haruhi a dozen times already.
Waifus have been a thing since ancient time.
To be honest, that last bit you mentioned is why I'm digging to find out what the big deal is, because I got bored watching the show. However given the popularity of it I couldn't just dismiss it based on my viewing experience. I'm aware it's an old anime and that it must've been more significant at another period of time.
But I think I'm getting an idea of what that significance was now, thanks!
I wasn't blown away by the show but the movie is amazing. It's worth watching the show in its entirety (yes that includes endless eight) just to understand the movie.
The movie is the best part.
It had a huge impact on aesthetics and apparently had some new animation technique/thingy. Notice how it looks relatively "modern" compared to other shows from the same year? It's because it started a lot of trends that stuck. Its success also contributed to the shift of character designs in the whole medium towards moe (oldfags still cry about it).
Read the books.
>(chronologically!)
This part gave you away, try again.
Pretty sure we still live in the Haruhi era in the west since Madoka ended up just being a fad
>(chronologically!)
You fucked up
>Watched the first 4-5 episodes (chronologically!)
You should never watch something chronologically if it isn't meant to be watched chronologically.
Honestly, I am not even sure if you're serious or just baiting.
Haruhi started the large trend with "self-aware" anime, while they existed before Haruhi it wasn't until after Haruhi that we got the constant "look I'am so meta LNs".
A few other thing: The anime was the one of best animated things at that point, now it is considered average and still holds up to this day. Another is, its about an average guy who use to hoped for exciting things to happen but that hope slowly faded then he suddenly found himself surround by extra ordinary people. Kyon mirrors what a lot of young people feel wishing for things to happen in a mundane world and while it fades, you still wish for cool stuff to happen...I still do. It is a fulfillment show but nowhere near as bad and extreme self-insert as SAO.
Yeah I just looked at a bunch of animes from 2006 and I see what you mean... wow. It's amazing really.
I'm noting the praise for the movie... I'll finish the series at some point and then get onto that.
In the end the lesson is "search for what you want instead of waiting for it to happen" so it's not self-indulging. The characters have to grow out of their selfishness.
Just lurk you fucking retard. You have a lot more to watch before you ask shit like this
Helped Aya Hirano and Yamakan careers skyrocket
Gundam, Pokémon, Haruhi and Eva are the most influential pieces of Japanese animation ever
I'm also a bit intrigued by how Kyon has this connection with Haruhi that no one else does. It's like... she's this quirky wild character who you might fantasise about, but Kyon reacts very realistically to her shenanigans. He kinda sees her as a pest, which I probably would too in the real world. As you say, she's quite selfish.
I made the chronological remark because I'm aware of the divisive opinions. I did SOME research before coming here...
Yeah I've seen some amount of modern anime and the self referencing is almost sub-meta at this point. Like, being meta is no longer meta. To be more meta you'd have to reference how meta your medium is. It's cool to know it's largely rooted in Haruhi.
You okay mate?
>she's this quirky wild character who you might fantasise about, but Kyon reacts very realistically to her shenanigans
Yeah, he's a foil to her. She's also a foil to him, since he's jaded despite initially sharing her love for the unconventional.
Haruhi made anime pull the idol playbook and run with it. There had been stuff like macross in the past that tried to take what made idols profitable and apply it to anime, but it was with haruhi and the fact that people would buy individual CD's that had every single member of the cast singing their own take of hare hare yukai and other shit like that which led to anime ascending into yet another level of commercialism and pandering to secondary demographics
The idolmaster was already a thing you know
Idolmaster anime came out a good year after haruhi, its only the games that beat it, which is irrelevant because a lot of the same stuff that made idols work already took over video games in the mid 90's with sakura wars.
Either way, a game/show specifically about idols isn't the same thing as a completely different series that still makes money the same way idol stuff does
It was literally meant to be watched Chronologically.
Yamakan disagrees
Being an oldfag and bored by anime at the time I discovered it with that episode when the brigade tries to shoot a short film.
The animation ( technically speaking), the directing, the pacing, the jokes about the industry, the meta jokes and settings... Not only was refreshing and new, but it was also done on a high quality standard.
Kyon was also very good, in the sense that everyime I was annoyed with something in the show, Kyon would be too. It felt like mocking the anime with a friend in the room... until it becomes drama heavy.
One last thing. Those openings / endings where everyone dance ? Haruhi started that thanks to Hare hare Youkai.
>Watched the first 4-5 episodes (chronologically!) and I'm kinda bored
You'll love Endless eight then.
Drama heavy? The only real drama I can think of is during Sigh and it didn't last terribly long.
Haruhi is basically the ultimate anime girl. She appeals to otaku on a deep spiritual level.
The show is also very well-crafted (because Kyoani) and it's very meme-able (the dance, etc.)
Not him, but while it's not drama, there are heavier moments in the show, like the later episodes of Melancholy, Disappearance, Live Alive, Someday in the Rain, anything that goes slow. Even Endless Eight had this spooky exposition scene where everyone shit their pants.
Why Asakura such a best girl?
Yamakan is a hack
Haruhi is the Evangelion of anime
What is the Haruhi of anime?
Literally just an explosive tire fire of a fad
People were over Haruhism by like 2008 and the 4 episode second season kind of neutered Disappearance's impact
Then Gatari swooped in and took the pseudo romance LN audience on a completely different wild ride
Monogatari
>second season kind of neutered Disappearance's impact
Haha
Are you kidding Disappearance was fuckin huge in Japan.
>the 4 episode second season kind of neutered Disappearance's impact
No, it's the other way around. Disappearance was HUGE after Endless Eight fucked with everyone. The franchise was at its highest during 2010-2011 with Surprise getting an international release and everything selling like crazy.
2007 was when imageboards and the internet public in general was booming, so anime that had good potential for reaction images became very popular. Haruhi and Lucky star being good examples
Lurk for a couple years and you'll know
I liked the endless eight noticing different details was cool
Nisiofags are fucking delusional, your garbage will never top classics like Haruhi
Is that you, asakurafag?
Because Assakura.
Not huge enough to get a third season.
The shit that season 3 would have covered would probably be considered one of the best seasons of anything of all time.
Snowy Mountain, Love at First Sight, and Intrigues
Lucky star happened, it wasn't Haruhi's fault
>Not huge enough to get a third season.
The film has nothing to do with S3. How many fucking times do I have to tell you people it's Tanigawa's fault.
Just think about it.
>Snowy Mountain is the introduction, first episode starts with the brigade lost in blizzard, make it 3 episodes long
>Disappearance's epilogue comes after that like the novels
>Intrigues is the main plot, but like the chronological gimmick of the first season they're dispersed in the season with short stories in-between
>2 cour season so it keeps going with Indignation and ends with Dissociation on the last cliffhanger
It's not necessarily just Tanigawa's fault. As much as anime are made to advertise the source Haruhi was absurdly successful on its own with BD and also music and merch sales. A third season would have been completely financially viable.
It's entirely cause Kyoani didn't want to deal with Kadokawa anymore and instead do their own IPs.
Dissociation would be way too much of a cliffhanger.
I think full chrono would be better for the series at this point leaving S3 to be the remaining short stories and Intrigues and the Dissociation/Surprise as a movie trilogy.
I sometimes jump out of my car at a stoplight and do the Hare Hare Yukai dance when I've just won a street race.
>individual CD's that had every single member of the cast singing their own take of hare hare yukai and other shit
To be fair, each take was unique and did show the character's personality to an extent, compared to say, Infinite Stratos's Super Stream.
>towards moe
Do you even know what moe is? It's been a thing since the 90s and has been an unnamed concept for far longer. It's not an art style or genre. If you think Haruhi popularized cute anime, you should actually look at what shows aired throughout the 70s, 80s, and 90s.
Did people really like Nagato that much? Even Koizumi's classmate in the beginning of Disappearance was better
She's an interesting character with solid development if you pay attention to some of the little things she says and the events surrounding her. And the lyrics of the movie ending.
>So did this anime invent slice of life?
sortof, it paved the groundwork for lucky star which is the original true SoL.
>Did it invent waifus?
some argue that the avant garde title "elfen lied" pioneered the waifu a bit earlier, but haruhi definitely popularized the concept.
>Did it invent common anime tropes?
pretty much everything you see in today's airing series can trace part or all of it's roots to haruhi suzumiya.
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I hope this is bait.
It's quite amazing that things like Lucky Star and Haruhi are still being copied to this day, with only minor improvements.
Basically what people in this thread is the truth. You had to be there to understand how influential those two shows were. If you watched them NOW you'd think they were bland and unoriginal, but it was not the case then.
Just as The Big Three defined anime for normalfags in the '00, Haruhi and Lucky Star defined that decade for full-blown weabs.
Has there ever been something as impactful in the entire industry since Haruhi?
Madoka
Madoka, Sword Art Online, and Attack on Titan, just to name a few.
If you count sales though, any and every season of either Love Live and/or Idolm@ster sells more than every other show in the same season combined. If you look from a purely DVD/BD sales perspective, it's not worth making any anime that isn't idolshit nowdays.
Fuck off.
In what way was Madoka impactful? Monogatari was a far more influential SHAFT show.
Gundam
>Madoka
Not even close, the madoka fad has completely winded down, Haruhi clones are still being made today and the franchise is alive and strong
>since
>and the franchise is alive and strong
fuck you, I wish
Gundam 00
Did you miss the age when suddenly everything wanted to be a deconstruction of its respective genre? And there have been a handful of series about magical girls being brutalized after that as well.
The only reason studios are still making original anime instead of just idolshit and light novel adaptations is because they have hope to strike gold one day with another Madoka.
Pachinko machines still count
I remember it was on the cover of some USA otaku magazine when anime and manga seemed to be gaining more attention in the mid 2000's. I think I actually discovered it from that and I just happened to come across, I didn't know much about "otaku" or anime beyond I saw on TV.
It might have been the time it came out that played a significant role, there was a lot of change including online with video.
>The shit that season 3 would have covered would probably be considered one of the best seasons of anything of all time.
Snowy Mountain, Love at First Sight, and Intrigues
Please don't remind me. I'm still mad.
It broadcast in a weird order and that made a lot of people interested in it, also it was the first series to use the now common 'kyo-ani' art style. If you compare it to a lot of other series release at the time the art and animation is really good.
Attack on Titan wasn't all that impactful. It was super popular but it didn't spawn any clones or anything.
>only watching Haruhi now
>the content of that post
OP are you still here? Are you new to anime?
I don't want them to count.
why was the first half of the movie so much better than the second?
It's so nostalgic to read Sup Forums posts before "ironic shitposting" was a thing. Nowadays this looks more like a Reddit thread.
It didn't look like modern kyoanal until season 2, s1 just looked like canon complete with uguu faces.
i had been out of otaku culture for a few years when Haruhi exploded and didn't understand the magnitude of attention either, dude, but it's a good show.
Because you're stupid.
mainly the god-tier setup and pacing
Haruhi in 2006 had an artstyle pretty similar to the previous Key adaptations which looks nothig like recent Kyoani stuff.
Also, just having a weird order doesn't make anything popular; the novels were already selling like hotcakes and each story arc was told in chronological fashion.
>each story arc was told in chronological fashion.
not really, it's another custom order
I, for one, am really glad that the Clannad artstyle fucking died.
Each story arc was its own volume or chapter that progressed from start to end without any jumps or breaks. The order of these arcs was not chronological, but it was nowhere near being a non-linear story like Durarara!!.
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Poor bassist-kun.
