Welcome to the Mars Independent General. This thread is dedicated to the discussion of creating a European Colony on Mars, not by direct funding, but through the commercial emigration scheme that will eventually come into play. This is real. This is going to happen. We need you to consider the choice. Mars Aeternum.
The first Mars Colony is predicted to be established as early as 7 years from now. Very quickly the colony is going to expand, and Elon Musk has made it clear that commercial emigration will come in to play only a few years later. This means the first large influx of settlers over the next 50 years are going to be families who sell their properties on Earth for the ticket. Only people who can afford to move there will be able to. lets face it - a majority european colony on mars is the only way to truly secure the 14 words. >Plan: /mig/ is a new general and a work in progress. feel free to contribute ideas. Essentially, once the colonisation effort becomes commercial, we need to move there.
/mig/ >inb4 space is fake kys >inb4 muh economics kys >inb4 STOP LARPING the short term goal of this general is to simply re-inspire our fellow Nationalists, Fascists & Racialists on the subject of space exploration & colonisation. We hope to promote a new positive attitude towards life on Mars amongst those who value the future of the European peoples. ./The general will be posted a few times a week or a few times a day.
This is definitely not about abandoning the problems we have here on Earth, we believe that the European peoples are not only strong enough to overcome those problems, but are able to dedicate themselves on multiple fronts, Mars is that other front.
>for anyone who wants a quick profile on Mars Equatorial Diameter: 6,792 km Polar Diameter: 6,752 km Mass: 6.42 x 10^23 kg (10.7% Earth) Moons: 2 (Phobos & Deimos) Orbit Distance: 227,943,824 km (1.52 AU) Orbit Period: 687 days (1.9 years) Surface Temperature: -153 to 20 °C First Record: 2nd millennium BC Recorded By: Egyptian astronomers
>There are signs of liquid water on Mars. For years Mars has been known to have water in the form of ice. The first signs of trickling water are dark stripes or stains on crater wall and cliffs seen in satellite images. Due to Mars’ atmosphere this water would have to be salty to prevent it from freezing or vaporising.
Brayden Green
bump
Luke Harris
a few interesting words in regards to business opportunities on Mars >Water Purification/Production Besides oxygen, of course, the only thing that will be more important on Mars than food will be clean drinking water. Scientists believe that there is water on Mars; however, they are not sure if it’s drinkable. Consequently, if there is water on Mars, someone will need to purify and make it suitable for consumption. If there is no water on Mars, then some really smart people will figure out a cost-effective way to produce H2O from hydrogen and oxygen. Either way, water will be big business on Mars. >Hospitality and Entertainment Nobody likes to eat or stay at home all the time, so there will be a need for entertainment, virtual reality centers, hotels, and restaurants of all kinds. If tourism to Mars ever becomes popular (and I think it will,) the need for hospitality and entertainment providers will be huge. As with all other things on Mars, eating out or taking a vacation will probably be expensive. Therefore, for those savvy chefs, hoteliers, and producers that get in on the ground floor, there will absolutely be plenty of money to be made in these industries. >Construction/Infrastructure Depending on the environmental concerns and requirements settlers face when they arrive on Mars, it’s hard to tell how construction and infrastructure will need to be approached. One this is certain, though, and that is people will need places to live and work as well as other necessities such as bridges, walkways, and streets (or something similar to streets.)
In the beginning, governments or authorities may handle initial construction projects. Still, I don’t think it will be long thereafter that the private sector will be doing most of the building. Building homes, condos and whatever else on Mars will be expensive and possibly dangerous. Therefore, expect contractors — big and small — to earn good livings in this field.
Colton Johnson
>another cut from a different article there are many potential near-term business opportunities connected with human missions to Mars with significant potential markets for the associated technologies and capabilities required for creating a sustainable human presence on the surface of Mars. These include innovations in life support, agriculture, radiation shielding, energy, on-site resource utilization (aka living off the land), filtration, and many other necessary technologies and capabilities. Many of these technologies would not require the massive level of investment for development that large mission elements like heavy-lift rockets, crew vehicles, propulsion, and habitats require. With the proper stimulus and the necessary entrepreneurial innovators, these technologies could be developed in a competitive manner, and they also likely will have application to improving life on Earth and therefore also have a significant market on Earth—thus making them particularly attractive to entrepreneurs, small businesses, and others.
>more Whether humans reach Mars through a government effort, a commercial model, or a combination of the two, there are remarkable opportunities that will accompany that journey. These opportunities are not only for discovery but also for innovators, entrepreneurs, and others to create new or better products that contribute to the sustainability of humans on Mars and also benefit people on the planet Earth.
Julian Gutierrez
This is retarded.
Caleb Rodriguez
>more While cosmonauts and astronauts are learning valuable spacefaring skills on the International Space Station — and the U.S. is using virtual reality to train scientists — the majority of work to prepare for interplanetary expeditions is being done on Earth...and where best to field-test equipment and people for the journey to Mars but on some of the planet's most forbidding spots. Seen from space, the Dhofar Desert is a flat, brown expanse. Few animals or plants survive in the desert expanses of the Arabian Peninsula, where temperatures can top 125 degrees Fahrenheit, or 51 degrees Celsius. On the eastern edge of a seemingly endless dune is the Oman Mars Base: a giant 2.4-ton inflated habitat surrounded by shipping containers turned into labs and crew quarters. There are no airlocks. The desert's surface resembles Mars so much, it's hard to tell the difference, the types of geomorphology, all the structures, the salt domes, the riverbeds, the wadis, it parallels a lot of what we see on Mars.
Scientists from across the world sent ideas for experiments such as testing a new spacesuit called Aouda, the cutting-edge spacesuit, weighing about 50 kilograms (110 pounds), is called a "personal spaceship" because one can breathe, eat and do hard science inside it. The suit's visor displays maps, communications and sensor data. A blue piece of foam in front of the chin can be used to wipe your nose and mouth. >Something to consider, for your or your children's future there will be a huge demand for engineers, medical experts, management "officers" and any sort of cross between those and other fields. So people with that kind of background could secure themselves a bright future on Mars
Austin King
yfw saudi-arabia sheiks use their billions to fly in towelheads by the thousands to mars
Elijah Fisher
>interesting read French 3D-printing company Fabulous has brought together a team of scientists and architects to imagine a bubble-shaped habitat for Mars that can be printed on the red planet.The Sfero house features an internal and external dome, with a protective pocket of water between the two. A single corridor rests on the planet's surface and allows access to the interior, which would have an upper and lower level linked by a spiral staircase.The house would start off as a central drilling rod that burrows several metres into the planet's soil to extend two robotic arms, which would harvest materials to be used for 3D-printing the habitat's internal and external dome-shaped shells.The spherical shape has been designed to offer high resistance to Mars' low atmospheric density.The design aims to use the red planet's abundance of iron oxide – discovered in dust samples and rocks brought back by NASA's Pathfinder rovers – which would form the raw material for 3D printing. The powdered iron particles would then be fused together by laser, and the levels of the habitat printed layer by layer. The arms would also seek out permafrost – soil that has been at or below freezing for at least two years – to be melted and used as a 30-centimetre-wide water pocket in between the two shells to protect against solar radiation. Fabulous founder Arnault Coulet believes the water layer could be a "permanent psychological reminder of the main element of the mother planet – water constituting a sort of protective amniotic fluid for humans."
Aaron Long
mfw United Arab Emirates have already announced plans to fund construction of buildings on Mars
Jose Williams
Colonize the moon first and then you have a place to launch rockets/ships to mars and other planets with less of a fuel cost.
That is a old BBP(black budget program) plan that has been worked on over the years for military use.
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Lunar Base should be announced very soon, we need it to run further isolation tests in preparation for sending people to Mars, amongst other things.
Luis Martinez
was meant for
David Evans
how do you mitigate the van allan belt for space travel?
Tyler Anderson
Plans? Or already is something up there and they're gonna roll it out slowly?
Thomas Russell
I cant remember the exact details, but its something like this...compartments built specifically for maximum shielding against radiation. those areas of the spacecraft will also be used if the ship is in danger of being hit by a crazy solar flare, crew can evacuate to the heavily shielded areas and live there until radiation storms pass
Brody Hughes
>nigger free life on mars sign me up
Gavin Carter
I doubt it. space exploration generates far too much positive public interest... it seems absurd that a president wouldn't of got the ball rolling for disclosure years ago. Its not like aliens or something where there might be a risk of creating wide-spread panic so they have to keep it secret.
Noah Lopez
Came up with some flag ideas for an independant mars once. Fucking lost the originals though so all i have are these quick remakes.
Evan Russell
top one is probably the best flag i've seen yet m8. bottom reminds me too much of South Africa but i get the whole red-green-blue significance
Luis Ramirez
Top one supposed to represent science and progression and the planetary system itself.
Bottom is just the mars society flag with olympus mons and the moons on top, since i thought those were pretty identifiable symbols of the planet.
Connor Cruz
Bro the public still thinks that SpaceX rocket with Zuma on board actually broke up on takeoff. Keeping it secret is a nice way to make sure things are drama free.
Jeremiah Howard
Lets all hope 1/3 gravity doesnt fuck you long term. If it does, no Mars maybe ever. If it doesnt then a Mars colony depends only on willpower
Logan Phillips
How will we survive on mars when we need earth's bacteria to process food in our gut?
Gavin Murphy
support bump, have a funny pic to draw attention
Juan Flores
has it been done?
Luke Bailey
drop a higher quality version of the top one in here whenever. i leave a post at the end of each thread saying when i'll be making the next did anything new get announced about zuma ? i forgot to check weight lifting and exercise in general should combat most of the effects of lower grav i havent seen this mentioned as a problem yet..... don't we naturally carry that bacteria with us ?
Connor Smith
>Only people who can afford to move there will be able to. how do we keep the jews out?
Levi Bailey
>This is real. This is going to happen.
More LARP shit
Carson Gutierrez
all spacecraft have to be built with heat and radiation shielding
Ethan Hall
drop a higher quality version of the top one in here whenever. i leave a post at the end of each thread saying when i'll be making the next
Juan Morales
t. buthurt Roscosmos employee
Liam Taylor
>Roscomos
Those fags should be arrested and tried for treason, i don't see what this has to do with your videogame LARP shit
Elijah Wood
They said it was a failure, this should tell you all you need to know
OP's illustration is a joke. Too many errors to list.
Gabriel Foster
Martian Militia when?
>made by SpaceX >nuh uh too many errors, ur dumb lol k
Cameron Ward
...that can and have withstood van allan belt radiation?
Nathaniel Garcia
top one looks like a splattered egg to me
Dominic Sanders
well yeah...Apollo astronauts managed to get through it without their brains turning to mush.
Cooper Cooper
This thread is a ShareBlue or /leftypol/ false flagging nonsense. Idealistic nonesense about manufactured reality for those waiting in hope of being able to "escape".
Mars is a pipedream, at least with the technology we're being told about. No one is going to want to spend 3 months inside a tin can being bombarded by cosmic rays. And then there's the hellish environment on the planet itself. The only way you could do this is by setting up space stations at measured intervals so astronauts could get out of the command module for several days and exercise and rest and so on. You would preferably want hydroponic food available, and some way of getting exposure to sunlight.
haha i can't unsee that now. I actually like the cog design though
Brandon King
>this thread is a shareblue no >or /leftypol/ no >false flaggin nonsense no .......lmao get ready for the btfo Vlad >get out of the command module for several days and exercise and rest and so on. the spacecraft space X are designing will have a compartments dedicated to exercise and rest.
now please leave my thread and spread your shit somewhere else. Thanks :)
Cameron Lee
>Only people who can afford to move there will be able to. how do we keep the jews out?
Blake Howard
OP WHAT IS GOING ON MAN!?
Just kidding, how’s it going in PART AND PARCEL city? Is it getting any better or is it still a shithole?
John Long
>through it and back come on now
Austin Cox
The only one spreading shit here is you
>Yes goys... i mean guys instead getting your life together, improving yourself, taking action and working towards wresting your socuety from the Globalsist, let's daydream about sci fi vifeogame shit some more
you're a subversive shill
Liam Russell
How the hell is this /leftypol/ shilling? I’ve replied to these threads since January and OP is not a pile of sticks that likes to put phallic objects down his throat.
James Reyes
It's useless escapism. Literally videogame shit. Start campaigning against progressives and read "Culture if Critique" instead of this shit.
Liam Walker
We cant. all we can do is be there ourselves and root (((them)))) out before they can do any real (((damage))))) >is it still a shithole? pic related le magic moon landing hoax hehe
Hudson Howard
see dumb cunt, leave my thread. Thanks :)
Jordan Cox
>We cant. all we can do is be there ourselves and root (((them)))) out before they can do any real (((damage))))) based on the financial requirements of getting there, I expect there will be an overwhelming amount of them vs us
Kayden Powell
Christ almighty vatnik have at least ambition! Oh wait you don’t that’s how your useless country is a shithole full of AIDS and DRUNKARDS.
Bentley Wood
>running away to Mars like a coward >not staying to defend Great Britain pathetic
Grayson Davis
Yea of course. Most spacecraft strategically limit their exposure to the most intense portions of the belts by either going around them or going through them quickly so they don't need to be built as tough, but there are lots of techniques to harden spacecraft against radiation.
Jupiter's radiation belts are way more intense than Earth's, and we've sent spacecraft there.
Brandon Lee
>putting all your eggs in one basket >not learning from the jew and planning for the long term see
Elijah Morris
Well the you bongs did leave your so called “GREAT EMPIRE” to escape your hideous women to the NEW WORLD. OP is just repeating history to escape ANGLO women in your pic.
Jordan Nelson
will doritos and mtn dew be allowed on mars?
Benjamin Hughes
>cant even settle parts of the US >cant settle antarctica or the bottom of the ocean >thinks he will see a "colony" on mars in his life sage. what were you thinking? make ethno-state threads for places on earth. you could honestly have that> >inb4 stop larping >you actually think people might think this is a larp and not just silly
Jace Walker
Well if you think it makes us “cool” so yes probably.
Alexander Stewart
>useless escapism >ambition >haha u drunk
Seems like you're all getting awfully mad because i called you out correctly. Read SIEGE, lift some weights and stop distracting your self with Alistair Reynolds high-concept science fiction nonsense.
>We're definitely not abandoning real problems, we're just going to distract urselves with some sci-fi shit
ok
Gavin Collins
Wow sounds great we get to stay indoors our entire lives and breathe treated stale air, but hey, AT LEAST THERE WON'T BE NIGGERS!!! WE WON GUYS!!! PARADISE!!!
Oh shit my scuba tank got a hole on the way to work oh well nice knowing you guys lol niggers amirite?
Joseph Martin
>being so BTFO that you have to flee the planet and live in caves on a cold desert world.
Brandon Torres
It's called doubling down, we'll be back soon enough with space cannons and orbital strike weapons.
We won't even need to land to wipe you off the face of Earth.
Blake Perry
>insulting Lady Jodie Marsh's honour You Sir, are a cad ! muskets at dawn !
Adam Anderson
>lol u mad No I’m not mad I called YOU out because your country also fell to the same fate of loosing the explorers spirt for the stars like my country.
Luis Baker
>lady Hmm I wonder why Britbongs are attracted to such hideous creatures? I wonder why all of them are hideous themselves? ;)
Chase Garcia
weve got the jews on our side. you lose by default. my descendants will be illegally immigrating to mars.
Henry Peterson
>color graphics representing theory >astronaut anecdotes as evidence >arguments appeal to authority where's the sauce?
James Jackson
>implying shitskins can afford to go to Mars when we already have weapons and autonomy.
Neck yourself La creatura.
Hunter Hernandez
>implying antarctica or the bottom of the ocean are more habitable than Mars yeah Ok lol, enjoy your crushing pressures and several months of darkness... and we'll enjoy our comfy colony on Mars
Jace Williams
kikes will finance us. your women will vote to open the borders. you cant escape vibrant diversity, cletus.
Robert Young
Venus sky city is more feasible and more comfy than a mars colony
James Thompson
There will be no women
Asher Wilson
>Cletus >kikes are on side >haha whitey we stealin yo women
Found the nigger/kike shill.
Jack Sanchez
>There will be no women
Aaron Foster
people really need to ask why most of Star Trek is white. Do you really think wed take you with us to space?
>there is less than half as much sunlight falling on the surface of Mars as on Earth light isnt even the problem, and there would be plenty artificial light anywhere obviously the pressure of the bottom of the ocean is a big hurdle, but a tiny one compared to 'mars colonization' fucking kek
Nicholas Anderson
neck yourself for copy pasta'ing the same crap thread every 24 hrs. Why are u on Sup Forums of all places on the net? This is for politically incorrect discussion, i.e. taboos set out by governments. Not space fiction. go to /sci/ u fuckwitted nigger.
Landon White
>Terraforming Mars Tranny Mars, disgusting !
Michael Lewis
Would mining water from the asteroid belt be viable? If you can get to mars you can surely go to an asteroid and send massive chunks of ice into Martian orbit to harvest as needed.
Jacob Davis
No britbong your days of dominance in the world is a mere fever dream. I don’t want to touch that “woman” that man is touching in the pic.
Noah Morgan
As i understand it the checklist for rendering mars habitable is
Nuke poles, introduce roaches(insect), moss and lichen, fill atmosphere with greenhouse gases, bring in more ice, heat atmo. Wait. Profit.
Jonathan Foster
>venus sky city this keeps on being brought up lol i can't tell if people are serious or not the floating habitats are not impossible but they would be better for acting as research outposts/ smaller colonies for scientists than an actual city.
Gavin Butler
Uncensored political discussion. The future of mankind falls under that.
If you don't like the thread, go post in a different one.
Adrian Lee
Having a bunch of floating habitats connecting eachother to form a city is possible with current technology. The gravity and temps tires would be almost on par with earth at those heights as well making it more feasible than mars.
Joseph Martin
Mars atmosphere is quite thick for solar radiation? I think that people who will go on Mars, moon, asteroids ... will surely live like rats under several meters of land.
Julian Murphy
Flag guy here. Working on the new mars one,Want some Venus ones too?
Noah Hughes
Artificial wombs But if that doesn't come to fruition, women can't vote.
Dylan Gomez
it was in cowboy bebop. that's why they mention it.
people think science fiction is inevitable no matter what it depicts.
Jason King
solar wind strips it off faster than you can add it.
Hunter Sanders
Because usually it depicts the future which comes with the mindset of "we havent figured it out, but FUTure people have"
Solar winds take centuries-thousands of years to strip down atmospheres. Thats assuming we'd even let the new atmo get stripped and not just dome the planet or invent a new form of mag-shielding
Henry Ramirez
> the same crap thread every 24 hrs i post the general twice a week and i will be updating OP as time goes by asteroid mining doesn't seem to sci-fi. Infact I think NASA is planning a mission to land a probe on a asteroid in the next 10 years, but i cant remember exactly the details, i could be wrong. >massive chunks of ice into Martian orbit to harvest as needed. there is plenty of ice already on Mars I agree. Yes but... its going to take a while for people to be ok with living in a balloon hurtling around a planet with a surface like a fucking oven lol. Like I said, Mars is the obvious first candidate for a self-sustaining family friendly colony.
