Will nisio ever make Araragi choose between Shinobu and crab?

Will nisio ever make Araragi choose between Shinobu and crab?

>Be with Senjougahara for a couple decades
>Be with Shinobu for the rest of eternity
In a way, the choice was already made when Araragi met Kiss-Shot.

>Will nisio ever make Araragi choose between Shinobu and crab?
We are already told that it is already a grave sin that Araragi didn't kill Shinobu. So why the fuck do you think he would care about monogamy? He is already going to hell, and the best part of knowing you are doomed no matter what, is that you stop giving a shit. Araragi will do what he wants and go to hell at the end of his death, when ever it is suppose to be. Not his fault that there are no more consequences for him.

By dooming him to the worst parts of hell, it ironically frees him from any and all responsibilities. You can't threaten a man who has nothing left to lose.

It would be out of character for both of them to fight against each other for koyomi.
It would be more plausible if Hitagi saw some sort of danger in Shinobu so she decided to exterminate her before she can harm her or Koyomi. That would be an intersting arc desu, specially because of how resourceful Hitagi seems to be when it comes to Araragi.
Nisio could write it as some sort of allergory of how a marriage dies because the married lose trust on each other.

No, since he doesn't need to.

> Decided to exterminate her

Nah, despite her nature, I don't think Hitagi would ever seriously harm Shinobu, she knows that, at this point, they're basically a part of each other.

Maybe after Monster Season.

Fuck off crabfag. If anyone is going to die it's Hitagi

I don't think Crab would be that dumb. Koyomi would absolutely drop her and maybe go ballistic if she actually hurts Shinobu seriously.

I'd love to get a fig of movie Kisshot to go with this one, both have such great designs.

That's why something should happen to take things out of balance. Of course this won't happen if nothing changes, because it's obvious that Hitagi won't wake up one day and say "I can't have sex with you as long as that loli is watching us from your shadow".
If happens, it would something along the line of "both shinobu and koyomi dies, and the only way to save one of them is killing the other". Koyomi won't let that happen, Hitagi would worry about him and everything could end with shinobu killing herself and saving Koyomi anyways, at the cost of Koyomi's marriage. It would be better if this happened when Koyomi is already and adult and working as an specialist (which is what he will choose as his career, I guess). Also, that time would make Koyomi less likely to choose Shinobu over Hitagi so easily, while also making it interesting for what the other chracters would do in such a scenario (specially the other specialists).

>fuck off crabfag
You got it wrong, kid. Don't even like crab that much. You would never guess the right answer.

You mean between Bat and anyone other girl?

>Of course this won't happen if nothing changes, because it's obvious that Hitagi won't wake up one day and say "I can't have sex with you as long as that loli is watching us from your shadow".
The fact is Hitagi already knows that Araragi will save girls by default, and that Shinobu is one such girl. And further Hitagi knows she loves that part of him and can't make him stop. So that is why she is fine with it. Hitagi actually has rather low self esteem and is in no position to leave and get someone better. He is the one she will marry, and Hitagi will be Araragi's only wife. The fact that Shinobu might watch them having sex is just baggage much like marrying a man who already have children. It is something she choose to deal with.

Thinking about it, isn't it weird they've never substantially interacted? Though I guess they're both probably the most insular of all the main girls anyway.

>Also, that time would make Koyomi less likely to choose Shinobu over Hitagi

Kek.
Dream on.

They have nothing to tell each other.

That why I said she WONT wake up one day and say "I can't have sex with you as long as that loli is watching us from your shadow" or something along those lines.
You really think that after 10 15 years of marriage he won't develope a strong bond with her to at least hesitate before choosing or of the other it things came to that? Perhaps you're the one that should "dream on".

Shame, Sakamoto and Saito playing off eachother would be amazing.

>Kiss-shot with panties
DELETE

Shinobu can say only "Tight pussy. feels really good".

>Shinobu
She isn't real. She is a projection of his teen problems, so, she's not an option.

Friendly reminder that Araragi is only allowed to make love with Hanekawa.

>had the chance
>throw it away because of being a massive beta with a bad case of teenage anxiety
He might remain a virgin forver if Hitagi doesn't force him to fuck her.

>had the chance of fucking hanekawa
>say no
I like Araragi, I really like him, but he acted like a fucking autistic faggot here.

If Musubi is the latest one in the time line, the answer is he won't. I really don't think Nisio can write something more after Monster season, maybe will have some side story about specialists, but not about the main story line. Araragi' decision is marry Senjo and stay with Shinobu for rest of his life, that's it.

I thought he already walked Senjougahara home gently.

If he's about ready to end the series.

After that night, Araragi: "P-Please be gentle to me next time and put away you staples."

Why does Nisio keep shoving Senjougahara in the plot even though she isn't really needed anymore? Is he trying to at least a bit appeal to the fanbase?

She is important for Araragi

He wrote himself into a dead end with her because he is a hack writer.

>Why does Nisio keep shoving Senjougahara in the plot even though she isn't really needed anymore? Is he trying to at least a bit appeal to the fanbase?
She is the only reason Araragi isn't fucking other girls. So new girls get introduced every book but there was no need to ask why he hadn't fucked any of them.

>You really think that after 10 15 years of marriage he won't develope a strong bond with her to at least hesitate before choosing or of the other it things came to that?
>Araragi and Senjougahara
>bond
s.m.h. t.b.h. f.a.m.
You really think that after 15-20 years of coexisting to the point of feeling each other's emotions he won't develope a strong bond with her to at least not hesitate before choosing or of the other it things came to that? Sorry, but their relationship isn't comparable to any other in the series. It's bizarre on its own.

Can not stop him fucking his sisters, only Tsukihi and Karen themselves can stop it..

>important
How? She doesn't affect him in any way, he's important for her, yes, but it's not really mutual

I don't think he'll ever write any conclusion of any sort.

you see Shinobu and araragi are playing the long game since they will both outlive the shit out of crab and araragi is smart enough to know hes stuck with shinobu for as long as he feels like living, theres legit no reason to ditch crab since shes only gonna be around for so long, may as well.

Sure that's why he is depressed as fuck in Musubi and doesn't shut up about her.
> I’ll listen to my little sister’s problems while thinking about Senjōgahara, who, accounting for the time difference, should be working hard in another country right now – or so I thought.

Araragi is memeing about not forgiving Shinobu for trying to sacrifice herself for him for whatever reason for another 400 years or something. But it's actually that Nisio is a stupid hack who wrote himself into a dead end trying to develop Araragi and Shinobu more. They are now at the point where he should just ditch the crab and bang Shinobu for eternity, judging by how their relationship turned out.

>no meat to stick your dick in
I'd feel depressed too

No. Never. This was a point of Bake. "Trolling" audience. MC got girlfriend in first volumes and there is nothing you can do even if other girls in his harem are top tier.

This. It was absolutely bizarre to watch his date with Crab and then watch how he restores his link with Shinobu, vowing and shit. I just can't understand how Nisio thinks it's okay to two-time like this.

He already did. As much flirting as Araragi does with the other girls his relationship with crab has always been presented as a constant and undoubtedly romantic, with him having every intention of staying in that relationship with her.

The two girls never talk to each other even in the same room and ok with the situation they have, why wouldn't he do two-timing?

Yeah. Read Sodachi's chapter from Musubi and shut up.

>his relationship with crab has always been presented as a constant and undoubtedly romantic
What exactly is constant and romantic about Araragi fooling around with every other girl at any oppurtunity?

>By dooming him to the worst parts of hell, it ironically frees him from any and all responsibilities. You can't threaten a man who has nothing left to lose.

It depends on the nature of the man. Araragi is not the scum of the scum. He is not heartless or has a soul tainted in black. He was not condemned to the lowest part of hell because of those things but because he tried to help someone who he believes deserve to live more than him.

If he ends up becoming a heartless man instead of a person who is willing to help no matter what, Shinobu will probably desire to die again and live him.

So, No! He has everything to lose. And that everything is SHINOBU!

Batfags hate it but this is how Nisio sees their relationship.

Another waifu war thread! Fucking everyday!

Depends. I don't think Nisio Isin moved past Araragi's first year of college yet.

Araragi and Crab already broke up 4 times with each other.

Shinobu is his life long partner while Gahara is his lover. They fill two completely different roles.

>implying he didn't make his choice long ago

His feelings for her, her feelings for him. As much as he goes around feeling up little girls and pretty much cheating he never actually questions his love for crab or thinks "hey, maybe I love this girl romantically more than I love crab romantically"
I accepted the harem aspect of the series a long time ago. Part of the reason I can't actually enjoy them as a couple, but this would still hold true if Araragi chose any girl other than her.

>It would be more plausible if Hitagi saw some sort of danger in Shinobu so she decided to exterminate her before she can harm her or Koyomi.

Don't try to make Shinobu a villain. Hitagi fits more to that description. She would probably use a talisman that would kill Shinobu in the future to get rid of her. Destroy all evidence and deny that she is involved in it. And then make up excuses like Shinobu is threatening her life and it was all self defense. She is the con-artist at heart, she is more than capable on deceiving people. She would lie her way out of everything.

>specially because of how resourceful Hitagi seems to be when it comes to Araragi.

Hitagi is not really resourceful, she is just cunning and manipulative.

Agreed, those waifu wars are non sense.

>be shinobu
>turn a human into a vampire
>he repays you by flirting with his harem while you hide in his shadow and get NTRed

Wasn't shinobu better off as an adult?

>Of course this won't happen if nothing changes, because it's obvious that Hitagi won't wake up one day and say "I can't have sex with you as long as that loli is watching us from your shadow".

And then she finds a way to kill her and get away with it. I hope Araragi sees through her guise and get rid of her already. Hitagi is more dangerous than Tsubasa. She is a wild beast waiting to explode.

>Nisio, please continue moving crab away from Araragi like you have been doing from the start. Continue protecting Araragi&Shinobu from her as well.

Those two relationships are kind of retarded, of course. With Crab, there's no character development on Araragi's side, he only serves as a projection medium of Hitagi's inner self, someone through whom we can see what kind of person she is. Araragi only says that he loves her for no reason and that's it, he's just a programmed robot who'll be there when Nisio would want to write about her again. Nisio is bad at writing romance and this couple is a prime example of it. He was great at writing a failed relationship with her and Kaiki, great chemistry and all, insights on both characters, et cetera. What's bad is that she doesn't work as a standalone character that much. Even in Zokuowarimonogatari Nisio didn't bother to write about her inner self, as if he doesn't know at which direction he must head. He already unveiled her character in Bakemonogatari and there's nothing he can say anymore.
As for Shinobu, his relationship with her is more insightful on his side, he's open with her about everything, they have their own moments of misunderstanding each other, trying to appeal to each other and basically sacrificing something in their lives for other to be happy. But their relationship doesn't go further, since Araragi doesn't want to fully accept the fact that he wants to stay with her in the future, he's acting tsundereish, always avoding straight answers, like in Shinobu House and Ougi Dark. It's as if both the author and Araragi don't want to cross the certain line, to "forgive" Shinobu, since they are afraid of the consequences.

She doesn't really care it actually. Araragi was suprised that she was not serious about the cheating when he kissed by Ononoki, although she keeps complaining about it and punches him on the face every time.

why would she not care. Women are jealous as fuck.

>The fact that Shinobu might watch them having sex is just baggage much like marrying a man who already have children.
Right! A 600yrs old vampire is a child. That works well with pedo but not if you have a child that can transform into an adult and make out with Araragi. If Araragi gets horny, Shinobu feels it to to some extent. As time goes by, Shinobu might not able to resist the urge and then Hitagi will have a realization - "I was wrong, she is not just a child". If you are OK with hentai, be my guess but It is not very realistic. Shinobu is possessive and demanding as hell, Hitagi would end up a third wheel the rest of her life. A more probable scenario is her trying to kill Shinobu and finds a way to make it look like it was self-defense so Araragi would not off himself.

>It is something she choose to deal with.
She doesn't know yet what she has gotten herself into. She has an idea but is not aware of the extent of it. After a couple of years together with Araragi, she will finally learn the horrors of her decision.

> After a couple of years together with Araragi, she will finally learn the horrors of her decision.
They are together for 5 years.

>After a couple of years together with Araragi, she will finally learn the horrors of her decision.
Have a kid then, potential wives will take second place forever in his heart.

>there are almost no doujins of her adult form

why

There are and they are good.

Even if she cares a little, a kiss can solve the problem.

There are many good ones, the average quality is even better than loli doujins.

She is a cuck.

How so? She isn't romantically involved with Araragi

>Thinking about it, isn't it weird they've never substantially interacted? Though I guess they're both probably the most insular of all the main girls anyway.
Shinobu may not directly interact with Hitagi but she always have her eyes set on her. She had been doing this since nise. Shinobu is literally a 24/7 surveillance of Araragi.

She had been moderating Araragi's action by stopping him when he goes out of line. Flirting with girls, flipping their skirts and molesting them is fine but if he gets really intimate, she puts of a red light and stops him.

Even if Hitagi want to do that, she could not because she knows little to none. And, she does not have a same privilege as Shinobu who is with Araragi 24/7 to monitor his every move.

All natural BAND-AID is the only way to go!

That means their feelings for eachother are strong enough to make up again after every break up.

but exhentai shows only a few?

That means Hitagi is a bitch and only Araragi is stupid enough to date her

You need Bloody Okojo

>you need Bloody Okojo
>you need a jealous crabfag
No thanks

Sorry, Shinobu has Araragi with her every night so that is not possible! They take a bath together after doing it. They don't usually do it the usual way because they prefer blood-sharing which is more pleasurable.

What? He hates Crab, he even did anal scene with her and Kaiki.

>this shit again
Off yourself immediately, thanks.

His interpretation of the characters is fucked, and not in a "this is a thin excuse to get to sex" way.

It's a harem. He gets all

>She is the only reason Araragi isn't fucking other girls. So new girls get introduced every book but there was no need to ask why he hadn't fucked any of them.
Sorry, Shinobu is already taking care of that. So far, she is doing a great job. Shinobu owns him so she decides who Araragi can flirt with and draws the line where he can't cross.

They are both master of the other and slave of the other.

His art is great though

Would like more Kanbaru x Ragi

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>His art is great though

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That would count for more if he could put together a decent sex scene. They all end so fucking quickly or have some weird bullshit to kill the mood.

Ragi is based

I really don't know what are you talking about.

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>Can not stop him fucking his sisters, only Tsukihi and Karen themselves can stop it..
Don't worry, based on Shinobu's actions, Tsukihi is not crossing the line. The only one who is does is Karen. Shinobu give her a big slap in Karen ogre and gave her a lecture. I hope she learns her lesson and keep her paws of his brother.

Karen Ogre:

>“Idiot!”
>She slapped me.
>Not only have I been suplexed by this strange person, but now slapped as well—huh? Does this mean I still haven’t had nearly enough training? Or maybe this person does martial arts too?
>She has a great figure, after all.
>“Don’t put anything and everything in your mouth! This is why you get your teeth brushed by your brother!”
>Hm? Did I tell her about that?

Would mamaragi join in if she saw Ragi bapping the imoutos wombs?

No, he went to hell because he helped a vampire, a literal demon.
Just shows that she understands him and can wait for her time.
Meanwhile there's crab who literally makes out with cat because she got wind of him cheating, childish, and also a cuck.
Pic related is canon, fuck you.

>you see Shinobu and araragi are playing the long game since they will both outlive the shit out of crab and araragi is smart enough to know hes stuck with shinobu for as long as he feels like living, theres legit no reason to ditch crab since shes only gonna be around for so long, may as well.

I feel so sad for crab! (sob! sob!) In the big picture, Araragi is just making a pass at her

The Bloody Okojo formula:
>spend all your time on making a bad fanfic
>shove a quick sex scene in at the end