Marriage and Children

>haha dude just settle down with an old roastie who can legally enslave you lol just bend your knee to her like the pathetic beta you are make lots of worthless shitting-machines to completely ruin your wife's body and make her look 10 years older than she is instead of having tons of money and being able to fuck hot young girls at a beach during your free time lol just ignore the fact that women age like milk and men age like wine just settle down with a roastie to save LEEEEE WHITE RACE!!! :))))

The propaganda that you virgins post of beautiful young blonde women with 3 or 4 children is false. You will be disgusted by your wife's body after the birth of your first child.

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Beauty is relative, sex is still good, please kys... Oh wait, you are keeping yourself out of the gene pool, never mind then, carry on!

i'm a total misogynist and even i'm offended by this. you are free to speak your mind and i am free to enter "sage" in the options field

>m-my 30 year old grandmo- I mean wife who shat out 10 kids is still v-very attractive to me.. :))

yeah, any woman popping you out 10 kids you're going to feel something for her even if she loses her figure. it's a biological thing where breeding pairs maintain loyalty to each other as a result of multiple successful matings. perhaps divorce rates are so high now because couples aren't popping out so many children. thanks for the hot tip

The only important thing to do is to contribute to your society and your culture by repopulating so your sorry corpse was worth the space it occupied.
If your woman is that much of a problem for you, become a Muslim and you can get a newer wife whenever you'd like and divorce the old one. Their method is pretty effective, as you can see they are expanding at incredible rates..
And women aren't that big a deal in reality, the glamour in reality isn't there, maybe that is why we have too many floaters and virgins nowadays. You look for something that doesn't exist and never existed so you cry about how life doesn't have what you want.

Instead of being cucked by your caveman urges into staying with literal shit, why not look for attractive women? If you're not a subhuman NEET you can have young women up until your grave. It's women who need to settle down early enough after riding the cock carousel, not men.

I agree with the Muslim part. Europe would still be a superpower continent if it wasn't for Christianity.

The only important thing to do is to contribute to your society and your culture by repopulating

faggot, she doesn´t love you back.

You are like and old car for her.

If she can get a better deal she will.

Divorce money, or other man.

You already fucked up your life if you are married in westen legal system.

Natural selection.

Take it from me, women who have children young (16-24) really bounce back from it better then older women.

Over time the pussy loses it's snap sometimes too... sad... many such cases but oh well... some guys peckers stop working too... but I wonder how much of that is due to being stuck with shriveled up cunts.

What you have is not marriage.You have no say about your kids,the goverment can take them away at any time.You have no right to expect your wife to be yours,she can fuck of at any time and you have to support her.

What exactly is the thung called marriage giving to a man?

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if she's popped out 10 of your spawn she's clearly pretty committed at that point.
yeah i'm gonna need someone to help me raise these 10 kids and obviously the person who popped them out for me is going to insist on being there.

you guys are just further convincing me that the problem with western women is that they simply aren't popping out enough kids to calm them down

>beta ground staring fags who attempt to compensate for their absolute inability to talk to attractive women by doubling down on mgtow faggotry

just get a nice fucking girlfriend you retarded cucks, E F F O R T

>if she's popped out 10 of your spawn she's clearly pretty committed at that point.

Hmmm, I wonder if it's because you were the first beta she found after her prime years when OTHER men got the best of her body while you got the leftovers.

German women are the second ugliest in Europe right after Britburqas, god damn. It's no wonder you guys bullied Ireland so much.

i'm not saying pop out 10 kids when she's past her prime. i assumed by the 10 kids comment that she got started no later then 25. takes time to pop out 10 kids, 10 years at least. 35 isn't too old for one more kid. now it's time to settle down and raise the kids. if the family breaks up guess who raises your kids: the state. which is why shills like you are hired to break up the family unit AAAAARRRRRRRGGHHHHH

You guys are so annoying.

Women don't view relationships like men, this is true. Women want providers and good genes. The fact that you guys are so inclined in trying to prevent other men from finding a mate proves you guys are insecure with your own abilities in finding a loyal partner. Its not a warning or advice, you're telling other men don't breed, don't have kids, don't carry on their legacy. Their are tons of men statistically speaking that will never have kids or get married and you're just adding to the pool of poor souls dumb enough to listen to a bunch of inept social betas.

You guys want this primitive hierarchy where only alphas get to breed and betas just die out. This is what youre advocating for. YOU ARE THE BETAS, you won't get any pussy at all. The only pussy you'd get are the whores,sluts, and bimbos since they will fuck you every now and then if alpha chad is too busy. You're the left overs, plan B if you will for the beta women who can't get into alpha chads harem. Stop pretending if we went back in time without marriage that you'd even have a chance of getting a qt virgin mate. You'd get what you get now, left overs. Even then she'd leave your ass a second she finds out she can get alpha chad. You have a better chance of finding a loyal partner through marriage than just free balling it. Stop shilling for fucking sharia law

Forget about the attracting women user.Not everione can attract quality women but there are more then enough sluts,prostitutes etc.

Question is why get married? Women get clear benefits to do so,but what do men get?
Marriage is a deal,who is acepting a deal with no benefits?

No woman will settle down with you before her late 20s/early 30s. If she does, expect a divorce when she's 40 and wants to relive her youth.

sure, well thats the problem then isn't it

>The only pussy you'd get are the whores,sluts, and bimbos

Lol, nah, that's the cucks who decide to get married. I'll get to fuck young college girls for the rest of my life and won't have to settle down with my grandmother.

>implying males aren't innate neophiliacs and won't get bored of even the hottest roastie
>...and roasties, period, in the current year

well done, let your kids be raised by other men and the state. not raising a family is so based and alpha.

>trusting technology from (((them))) to make your babies
surely that won't backfire by design right?

I never said i'd get them pregnant. But you're right, making other men raise my children would be pretty fucking alpha.

I warn those who aren´t already fucked up by marriage or pregnancy.

It's a tugh enviroment right now in the west, and specially in my country.

Here, a woman acuses you of harasment and you go directly to jail.

If you marry, that woman has all the power over your life, your job, your children.

Not that a would marry a woman in past times, but for shure nowadays in this LAWS no way.

Seriously, if you are a retarded mutt and don´t get it, I.m glad you go and fuck up your life.

>a Luddite and a leaf

You sure did draw the short end of the maple tree stick...

This. Marriage is modern day enslavement for men.
Just how does one not feel like a pathetic little bitch when they bend their knee? Shoving dildos up your ass isn't any where near as gay.

lol, thats what a cuck would say

dude, even the smartphones fucked us with a global surveillance state and all we wanted is to make phone calls and play angry birds. i can't even imagine how badlyy they're going to fuck us making humans in a tube. get real.

i'm not a luddite, i'm just not some moron who automatically thinks every bit of technology is a good idea like a naive fool

Haha so your parents are a bunch of retarded degenerates who got married and Had you. So you consider yourself being the product of 2 scum of the world ppl

Your only option so redeem yourself in society is to kill your hellish parents, any other offspring they had and then deny yourself

>says the expert on shoving dildos up his ass

Funnily enough, yes my parents were useless subhumans. Luckily i'm not so I can judt laugh at them.

>Here, a woman acuses you of harasment and you go directly to jail.

>If you marry, that woman has all the power over your life, your job, your children.

>Not that a would marry a woman in past times, but for shure nowadays in this LAWS no way.

I'm pretty sure our divorce laws are way worse. I know stories of people going into debt trying to get a divorce.


>I.m glad you go and fuck up your life.
I'm already married, and what you've been saying about women having all the power, is cute but not all true. If I leave my husband and do everything you say I'd actually be losing more money in the long run. If everything goes according to plan, with my part time job and his full time job, we can save up for retirement and retire at the age of 50 and live a comfy life with our house paid off and our kids out of the house. As oppose to having a fling, getting a divorcing, taking the kids, and being a single mom and being forced to work full time and have a lower cost of living and never being able to retire.

Only stupid people get divorced.

cold and practical
typical woman
maybe op was right
would it kill women to be a little more romantic? fuck

>instead of having tons of money and being able to fuck hot young girls at a beach
When your argument hinges on such materialistic desires I suggest you reevaluate your life.

what if your husband falls on hard times? what if your financial plan doesn't work out? do you jump ship? of course you do. it isn't about love and loyalty those are masculine concepts. it's just a fucking spreadsheet and a financial calculation. fuck this i'm going back to misogyny

i don't get the post of this post retard
if a woman is willing to have 10 babies by 30 years old, than she is a keeper

Bitch, you just proove I'm right.

Women are pshychos. Calculative and cold.

I´m glad you hit the wall after 28 and can never be happy as a single men can.

Hope your girlfriends make better than you and laugh behind your back, bitch.

You probably already over 30, ugly and fat.

you don't have to do any of this degeneracy such as bending knee, weddings, bacholerette/bacholer parties, etc

>having no more than a genetic contribution to your progeny is alpha
You people are so pathetic.

Marriage is suicide for men these days. The only winning move for a man in a gynocentric society is not to play.

And she's also ugly and used up. Move on and find another woman.

then gynocentric society needs to change to make it into a winning move again or the state will have absolute power raising children from birth out of tubes.

still, someone else can have the kids. i'm out

end yourself degenerate, you're no different than a roastie

Men age like wine which means I can safely move on to another woman. Just because women become worthless after 25, why does that mean I should follow their rules?

>having no more than a genetic contribution to your progeny is alpha

You thing you contribute more?The moment you wife or goverment is not happy how you rise the child they take it from you.Your rights as father are zero,fuck it your wife can kill your unborn child and you cant do shit.
Stop deluding yourself that you somehow have a say with the current marriage laws.

lmao ye sure, you'll be fucking 20 year old girls while your a 70 year old man i guess?
also why would you abandon mother of your 10 kids? she is probably raising them as well

I'd take a baba if she gave me 10 healthy children.

children without fathers are statistically almost certain to end up in jail. so clearly having a father has an influence. you want to just leave your progeny to be raised by a single mom and her boyfriends? lol

>Implying
>Implying
>Implying

>what if your husband falls on hard times?
Then I get a full time job

>what if your financial plan doesn't work out?
Then I guess we are fucked, or we have to budget till we are out of the red

>do you jump ship? of course you do.
I just said leaving him would be a bad financial move, so why would I? Why do you guys think that every woman has this beta male with a good job willing and ready to take a mom of 3? I've never seen it. IF anything the mom because a free lay to any dude because they know how desperate a single mom is. I rarely see these men actually committing to the mom, let alone be better off financially than the original husband.

>would it kill women to be a little more romantic? fuck

Romance dies once you have a kid. I love my husband, dont think otherwise, but my kid, I love him more than life itself. It's an amazing rush of absolute love and ecstasy. I know my husband has the same amount of love for our son and they have a close connection that I can never replace. If anything I stay with my husband because of our son, he's a good father, husband, teacher and provider. If you ever have kids you'll understand you will stop thinking about you and start thinking more about life goals.

>Retire at 50, so I can enjoy watching my son have kids of their own and help out and enjoy being a grandmother
>Have a house to give to my son when I pass away, giving him a chance to start his own family easier

This is how I see it.

Like I said before, if a woman settle down with your before he late 20s/ early 30s you won't have a happily ever after with her. She'll mentslly become 20 again in her 40s.
And lol I will be fucking 20s year olds until my grave, since i'm probably in the top 10% of Slavshits.

Sorry for all the errors, i'm a little drunk.

Oposite,i dont want that.But the marriage laws do nothing to help me prevent it.In fact they encourage it.

No.1 you need to stop jerking it to porn and searching out blacked fantasies, 2 this happens to people who are naive appeasers and unmasculine. If you aren't giving your wife something she needs, she will look elsewhere for it. And you can't live in fear of being cheated on, that's top beta. At the end of the day you have yourself and your kids, the woman is just an extra and shouldn't be a component of your ego.

nice larp
how many men did you sleep with before you married for your husband, mutt? let me guess, 600? 1000? 10000?

Haha just demoralize my incel ass up
> implying this is a laughing matter

meh, you're probably all talk. the only reason you're still with him is because you've determined it's now impractical to "trade up"

i bet your poor husband has to deal with constant bickering and argumetns over the dumbest shit every night. i don't think i've ever seen a married couple that isn't screaming at each other every night.

if there was no drama in your relationship you'd probably leave, you need the constant conflict to stay emotionally invested

>Not being sexually attracted to a well-maintained mom-bod.

You don't know how to be married, user. Women are shallow and vain, and only made more shallow and vain as social media has become a center piece of their lives. Women will seek a man's approval, even subconsciously, doubly so for men she finds attractive. If she's your wife, she finds you attracted (or should, but that's a whole other issue.) You need to show, not tell, what you expect out of a woman and she will follow. It might be a conscious effort on her part, it might not but the pressure she feels seeing her girl friends on facebook having perfect lives and virtue signalling all the things they do for their husbands as well as normal societal pressure and an ever-constant fear you'll trade her in for a younger model makes it natural for her to fall in step with your wants and needs.

The trick is controlling what YOU outwardly show what you want in a wife, domestically and sexually. I'll use myself as an example; even though I have a high sex drive, I'm also a big fan of being pressed against my wife to cuddle or to just be touching each other in some way, so laying my head on her lap, hugging her from behind, or even just pressing my hip to hers when we cook together is normal. I also am obsessed with her breasts and play with them daily, especially in summer when there's no coat in the way. So every spring-summer, with all the non-sexual physical affection and breast-play, she gets baby crazy and talks about how "haha, I totally don't want another but sometimes I do." I've even experimented, consciously changed how I cuddle/foreplay several times for part of a season and it changes her natural "instincts" as well. So the question is, for you, what signals are you sending your girlfriend or wife that you want her to do? Because you can tell a woman one thing but if you're showing her something else, she's going to go with her "feelings" of what you want instead.

>if you aren't giving your wife something she needs, she will look elsewhere for it.
What about the things I need? Like a beautiful young wife? Oh wait...
You might be the best husband but if your roastie doesn't want you anymore she always has the option to leave you and steal half of your shit. That option alone should be a reason for no man ever to want to get married.

Okay so don't get married or sign a prenup if you think the law is unfair. If your woman doesn't want you anymore its because you're not worth wanting, any girl gets attracted to you when they see other women are attracted to you. You just want an excuse to be with young chicks, go ahead, but just admit it instead of acting like you're the victim here and you're being forced into it.

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Do you really want a roastie who lets invaders rape your kids?

prenups get thrown at all the time
all she needs to do is pop out some crocodile tears in front of the judge and say she was pressured to sign it. meanwhile having to keep a woman constantly attracted to you must be exhausting. you can never relax and be yourself because if you drop your alpha persona for a moment some chad will come along and she'll "trade up"

if you think your argument is making marriage look more appealing it isn't

I wouldn't care what happens to my daughters.

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Yeah cause of your/our cucked laws. You don't have to get married to have a partner & kids, the marriage part is just a feminist law.

>you're not worth wanting

I love how men have to have all these qualities while women just have to be kind and funny and silly xDDDD :))
I won't get married. As a wealthy man, I deserve any woman I want. No, i'm not implying rape.

You convinced me, I'ma go get a divorce right now and get my beta male provider and free alimony checks!

in canada you're automatically married if you live together longer then 10 months, so yeah

also if you're going to have kids, you want her to stick around, or she'll leave the kids and raise them herself and the state will allow it. and you know how kids with single moms turn out.

i dunno. i'm not going to bother raising a family but i still feel like i should encourage other people to do so. seeing as how the alternative is trusting the government to raise children from tubes

no, you'll get a serious of chad boyfriends until your kids leave home (rented apartment). and then you'll be old and alone with some cats for company while your son calls you from prison

You're giving them too much credit, think of them like a dog, you dominate them and take care of them, they give you kids and do chores, everyone is happier this way. You're the one with a 8 year old girl Disney view of relationships where you're equal partners.
lol you're fucked then, that's nuts. Move to a real country not run by an emotionally unstable drama teacher.
What a surprise, this happens to niggers all the time, have you not seen precious?

So what youre saying is stay with my husband or risk a shitty life for me and my kid?

I know this is fucking bait but hell with it.

>haha dude just settle down with an old roastie who can legally enslave you lol

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>My overwhelming experience with women has taught me they are all roasties because I'm bitter and don't know how to date/ am un-dateable. I have no concept of marriage nor have I ever experienced it.

>pathetic beta you are make lots of worthless shitting-machines

Literally the only way mankind has a chance at survival. Procreation worthless. Where did you come from user?

>to completely ruin your wife's body and make her look 10 years older than she is
Nothing is 'completely ruined' you fucking spaz. Nothing. What she gets stretched a little? C-section not an option? Does that small fact prohibit all breeding?

>instead of having tons of money and being able to fuck hot young girls at a beach during your free time lol

Only a lazy, unmotivated person would ever blame a lack of prosperity or wealth in their life in on the creation of a family. If you don't have enough money it's likely you didn't pursue a high enough education and do not have the skills required to hold a job that can support a family. Doesn't mean every single family man or father figure across the country is destitute you goofy cuck.

>to save LEEEEE WHITE RACE!!! :)))
Only a kike shill would mock something so blatant and obvious such as wanting to procreate and keep the white race strong.

It makes me genuinely curious who is behind the anti natalism shilling. I'm not convinced its just MGTOWs

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Women marry once they're old and no Chad wants them anymore. As a man, yoi legally get enslaved by marrying her

>My overwhelming experience with women has taught me they are all roasties because I'm bitter and don't know how to date/ am un-dateable. I have no concept of marriage nor have I ever experienced it.

>pathetic beta you are make lots of worthless shitting-machines

>Literally the only way mankind has a chance at survival. Procreation worthless. Where did you come from user?

Most women are trash, it's a fact. I have had lots of experience with them. Think about it. If women didn't have holes, would you really try to talk to them? No. Because they're fucking boring and therefore have to use their holes to attract men.
I'll leave procreation to the average, dumb normies. I'm too successful to get married.


>Only a lazy, unmotivated person would ever blame a lack of prosperity or wealth in their life in on the creation of a family. If you don't have enough money it's likely you didn't pursue a high enough education and do not have the skills required to hold a job that can support a family. Doesn't mean every single family man or father figure across the country is destitute you goofy cuck.

I'm motivated and therefore rich. Nice try though.


>Only a kike shill would mock something so blatant and obvious such as wanting to procreate and keep the white race strong

K bro. Enjoy saving your le white race with your 2 children while Tyrone has 5 and also breeds your daughters.

Soundin hella gay there OP. The nuclear family is redpilled as it gets. You won’t have a legacy and that’s fine but sad.

There aren't even any niggers in your country you delusional cuckold. Go outside instead of watching blacked on a loop.

>I'm an independent stonk myn who don't need no womyn.
Kek. You are a perfect match for the neon haired cunts. Both anti-natalist, both anti-white.

>30 year old grandmother
Are you a gypsy? Or a nigger?

You don't want one of THESE?

>legacy

The legacy of who? You're not a wealthy Kang, you're dumb normie wagecuck. No one cares if you breed besides the government who wants more slaves.

I know, I was replying to the American.

I was exagerrating obviously. But a woman past her mid 20s is just as attractive as my grandmother eho'll probably die soon.

Excuse me?

Any man willingly signing up for the obscenely dangerous task of marrying and committing to your modern day roastie deserves the pain that is coming to him for enabling these bitches n the first place.

This

great post

You know, a roastie will always leave you to trade up.

How about we make the playing field fair and leave them once they slam head first into the wall?

Ask the doctor after the birth that he makes an extra stitch.
Also men and women have a positive influence on each other.

Men that are never in relationships tend to become NEETs.

Also attractiveness is not that important apart from impressing your friends. You'll develop a fetish for your wife's body eventually. My theory is that that's the evolutionary reason for the existence of fetishes.