There will be threads like this for the next three weeks, folks. Strap yourselves in.
Jonathan Edwards
Anime: how light sees himself
Manga: how Ryuk sees him
Movie: what he actually looks like
Ayden Howard
I think OP directed the thing.
Angel Flores
oh shit
Samuel Carter
Let's talk about politics instead. Where are you on the political compass, Sup Forumsnons?
Zachary Adams
But he was already a retarded loser way before he had the death note.
Anthony Perez
I'll never understand this.
Jace Collins
It's pretty straightforward. What confuses you?
Oliver Walker
but are traps gay?
Nathaniel Diaz
Anime/manga: people in general are shit and selfish pricks Movie: White males are evil and black people should stop them like L
Owen Powell
Like, why HeroAca right authoritarian, kemono friends full left, etc...
Lincoln Gomez
So does L die here?
Joseph Turner
bnha is, at its core, a story about vigilantes authorized by the government. Their popularity and success as entrepreneurs, effectively, is a very light form of fascism that the audience can ignore only because its villains are so much obviously worse.
Kemono Friends is a Left-Libertarian utopia. No compelled work, everything is provided for, and everyone works together as a community to achieve their common goals. It's probably one of the best fits on the chart.
Liam Hughes
He lives. The movie ends with a cliffhanger, he was about to write Light's name in a page of the death note.
Christian Adams
So, did anyone actually enjoy this movie?
Austin Jones
Enjoy is a bit much, but I didn't hate the movie. I came out of it completely neutral.
Bentley Smith
Oh, I see... Can you explain the others, please?
Xavier Bennett
Sure. Shiki is partially an in-joke, but this screencap really does a good job of laying it out.
Parker Barnes
What about one piece, why is it Libertarian
Liam Morgan
Stellvia, like most space anime, is completely authoritarian, with people's lives controlled by a central, generally benevolent government. Stellvia in particular tends to be about people coming together to achieve communal goals.
GATE is hilariously blatant military propaganda.
Zvezda plot is probably the most fascist thing I've ever seen, about a group of people who decide to use overwhelming military might to enforce their particular morality on the world. The episode where they decide to stamp out all smoking strikes me as the most blatant.
Aiden Young
Can you Netflix tards please stop shillinh your garbage movie? It's obvious that this is happening.
Ethan Jackson
One Piece is about a bunch of literal pirates fighting back against the government. The Strawhat's guiding moral principle is that they love and pursue freedom. You can also summarize their interactions with other pirates as retribution for violating the NAP. Mostly, though, it's the monologues that cement it as Libertarian in my mind, and it works best as a series when viewed through that lense.
Caleb Cook
OP is a story about freedom. The goal of the pirates it too be free, Luffy wants to be the PK so he can be the free.
Nicholas Roberts
Light's fine, it's just L is retarded. And not because he's a black, but because his character is completely fucking wrong. I guess they had to nerf light otherwise Nig-L would lose.
Julian Turner
Thank you, anons
Chase Bell
Some random Pedro hits him with a 2x4 and then Light pulls a simple keikakku that results in at least one death and millions worth of property damage that somehow clears his name completely
Mason Bell
>White males are evil and black people should stop them like Wrong, funny enough. L more or less turns into a psychopath when Watari dies and almosts writes Light's name in the page of the note while Light KEIKAKU DOORI'd his way out of a no-win situation.
It was the least-shitty part of the movie. Still awful though.
>Open ended choose your own path ending >Credits are full of blooper scenes
How can you fuck up so bad.
Logan Gomez
>blooper scenes Is this a blooper scene? 3.lithi.io/VAOGr.webm Please tell me it is.
Luis Reed
How the hell is BNHA fascist? BNHA is structually a modern day Japan, Nothing about the series shows its government overstepping its boundaries, there are no dictators, and the people are free to do as they please. Heroes are also not vigilanties. They're authorized, tracked and accounted for by the government and have quotas. They essentially operate as a 2nd police force. BNHA leans right sure, but left it does not.
Lucas Lee
You'll note that bnha is in the same quadrant that pretty much all modern governments fall under in a standard chart.
Lucas Mitchell
Hahaha holy shit
Carter Harris
Still isn't fascist or authoritarian. Just conservative.
Elijah Butler
Sup Forums is for anime.
Anime is Japanese animation.
This is neither Japanese nor animation.
Gavin Harris
t. mr.nobody
Michael Turner
The problem with the word 'fascism' is that its usage is very broad. I would define it as the glorification of governmental might, and the use of force to maintain traditional values. At the extreme you get Zvezda plot, at its lightest you get BnHA. Maybe I'm wrong to use the term fascist, but its place on the chart is still correct.
Christian Bailey
what is this? Anime/manga Light never screamed like this.
Justin Brooks
There are a lot of bad things called facism but they aren't facism. All it means is a marriage between business interests and government, usually at the expense of the people.
Samuel Bell
That's not even a remotely accurate definition of fascism. You're describing crony capitalism.
Joshua Evans
Lad, most fascists were anti-captilast. Hence, the terms "Third Way" and "National Socialism".
Jacob Williams
Crony capitalism is when the mob controls the means of production.
Landon Smith
You are politically illiterate.
Xavier Morris
He looks like Ikuhara from the thumbnail.
Jordan Flores
You're conflating fascism with conservatism/rightism. Fascism is authoritarian and oligarchical in nature and revolves around limiting individual and economic freedoms for the sake of the state/government. Conservatism(BNHA/Japan) is about maximizing economic freedoms while limiting personal freedoms. Fascism is about limiting and controlling both economic and personal freedoms, which naturally involves using violence to silence opposition and limiting free speech.
Kayden James
Conservatism is in the same block as fascism, fascism is merely farther down the spectrum. Again, I can accept that I'm over reaching in saying that piece of the block is lightly fascist, but I stand by where BnHA was placed.
Henry White
I laughed. That was an iconic hair style. I really wish they would have kept in black or brown in the movie.
Luis Walker
making him a beta is a bad thing he was a genius who did it for justice and power now he is a schoolshooter with a diary
Mason Kelly
Why is Hollywood obsessed with blacks?
Zachary Brooks
More specifically, why are they so determined to replace all the redheads with blacks?
Jose Rogers
is the manga better than the anime? Is the Mello and Niel arc not shit?
Xavier Price
Just catering to its audience.
Brody Jackson
Yep, I was on the edge of my seat with chills down my spice near the end. Damn it feels good to have shit taste, you can pick up anything end enjoy it
Nathaniel Ross
>everyone complaining about L >Light looks like a meth addict
I agree that L should have been a very pale actor but Light was so terrible it's ridiculous. At least L's actor was semi-decent.
Asher Moore
It was actually good Sup Forums is still in denial
Charles Jones
superheros are fascist by nature
Adam Brooks
White people are obsessed with blacks in general, whether it be loving them or hating them. Can't go a single thread without some fag bringing up something related to black people specifically.
Brayden Anderson
Saying Conservatism is in the same block as fascism is like saying Liberalism is in the same block as fascism. Conservatism limits personal freedom while protecting and expanding economic freedoms. Liberalism limits economic freedoms while protecting and expanding personal freedoms. Fascism limits both economic and personal freedoms. Now I can agree with your placement of BNHA if said placement is classified as conservative. Though I don't know what you consider most modern goverments to be since most modern goverments are generally centrist given the penchant of Europe to simultaneously expand personal freedoms like drug use, prostitution etc. while limiting economic freedoms through ridiculously high tax rates.
Andrew Ross
>Conservatism limits personal freedom while protecting and expanding economic freedoms. That's liberalism. >Liberalism limits economic freedoms while protecting and expanding personal freedoms. That's progressivism.
Damn burgers.
Henry Young
It seems like you're way too fixated on that political compass/compass thing and built your entire argument about that. Fascism and Authoritarianism go hand in hand but anything that leans right is not automatically fascist or even close to it. Japan(BNHA) is conservative but fascist it is not. Japan There are no dogmatic leaders, the government isn't using police(heroes) to violently silence political oppostion and it's economy is a free market. "lightly fascist" was wrong but "right" is right.
I remember Crest of the Stars being pretty damn preachy with authoritarian/Abh(fake-Japanese faction). I don't get Japanese fantasy with elves, they're almost always written as self-inserts or superior to humans/orcs/etc
Colton Kelly
Progressivism is about social change and social reform, it inherently has jack to do with economics. Liberalism has jack to do with limiting anything especially if we're going by classical liberalism which originated in Europe.
John Cook
The turd thinks that the academy (essentially a corporation) is somehow in power.
They're a militia, fascism does not support militias. Militias are anclap 'muh degeneracy' fantasies.
Michael Sullivan
Liberalism is all about limiting you stupid fucking burgerclap
John Edwards
The chinese?
Noah Hall
>People are falling for b8 posts saying they like this
Justin Jones
Not classical Liberalism which is closer to modern day libertarianism. Modern day liberalism is about limiting economic freedoms through higher taxes, advocacy of socialism/collectivism or U.B.I. and expanding personal freedoms like gay marriage, suffrage rights, drug use, and abortion. Learn what words mean before you post them user.
Liam Miller
Please bother them
Kayden King
no u
Christopher Lee
No, classical liberalism was all about restraints. I know what words mean, you do not, nor do you know how these garboideologies were actually enacted, nor have you read any texts on the subject.
Jordan Lopez
nigger
Justin Martin
Why the fuck do you think I'm talking about modern liberalism anyway? This entire argument revolved around placing series into political classifications, which would logically entail using the strictest definitions from their original meanings. Why the fuck did you think I was talking about modern day liberalism which has done nothing but skew its original meaning thanks to actual fascist and collectivists who've hijacked it?
Evan Morales
>L chasing down Light with a gun >Misa-equivalent being evil and willing to kill Light instead of just wanting his love >Light working with a Watari he brainwashes with the death note for extended periods.
Stuff like that rubbed me the wrong way. It was okay I guess, but it lacked the psychological keikaku cat-and-mouse games between L and Light that made the manga really good and the way it adapted some stuff (like throwing in that thing about L being groomed to be the ultimate detective from childhood at an orphanage) didn't work. Also how the fuck did he get that page of the death note into the fire? That was some serious bullshit, having control over the means of death shouldn't allow you to control where a page of the notebook that falls ends up when it lands.
Sebastian Kelly
the academy is basically backed by the government to do their work though.
Jonathan Brooks
ye same with L on how they made him from a sorda emotionless genius in the anime and by the end of the movie he became an emotional pycho
Jose Morgan
No, its about limiting the government nothing more nothing less. But I was wrong to say Liberalism had nothing to do with limiting anything, just as you're wrong to say it was all about restraints. Have you ever actually read any texts on the subjects or are you just talking out your ass?
Gavin Wood
I'm talking about classical liberalism. So are a lot of corporations. Actual private academies are corporations with government funding.
Robert Mitchell
the chase seane was alright but it didnt fee llike "death note" if that makes any sense
Isaiah Martin
>burgerfat delusions Illegalizing murder and theft are both restraints you stupid fuck
James Roberts
No it isn't. It's superficial, boring and unremarkable.
Isaiah Collins
you know if you think about it Ryuk kinda for shadowed the ending half way through the movie Ryuk threatens light by saying he will give the death note to a new owner and recommend light to be the first name written and by the end L finds a peace of the death note and well not showned its kinda implied that he wrote lights name by Ryuk laughter and lil quote by the end ( i dont remember what he said) and plus it would make sense that L will do that sense he says he dosnt kill but with what had happen with all of his emotions boiled up because of light it wouldnt be surprising if he did write his name
Now aint that something :)
Austin James
>hat was some serious bullshit, having control over the means of death shouldn't allow you to control where a page of the notebook that falls ends up when it lands.
That was heavily implied to be Ryuk's doing, he wanted Light to survive.
Julian Wilson
But apparently it was part of Light's plan, he talks about it in the voice over where he explains everything.
Logan Walker
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Christopher James
my summery of the new death note
Jaxson Garcia
Lights face in this pic is killing me idk why tho
he has this face like " OK YOU COUGHT ME COPPER!" in a snarky bitch voice
Leo Lewis
LOOKS LIKE I HAVE BEEN COUGHT RED HANDED GOOD JOB L- il bitch
Liam Watson
watari wa androido desu
Cooper Campbell
Sure, but it only has to be possible, not realistic. I'm sure that the page was only dropped at the place that would make it possible for the note to end up burned.
Lucas Roberts
>them Netflix shills getting their shitty thread detailed with political alignment shit >see them trying to salvage it posting random shit of da flick Ayyy report
Gabriel Wright
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Benjamin Russell
I still don't understand why shitty live action thread are allowed in Sup Forums, you don't see Sup Forums have to endure thread about their shitty movies.
Brandon Scott
The best thing to come out of this movie is that westerners will never try to make another anime live action since they are always a fucking disaster
Samuel Gutierrez
>browsing Sup Forums
James Kelly
Yeah that's true. Any off-topic thread in Sup Forums is immediately deleted. Good that you brought it up.