Why are Americans against paying taxes that ensure them greater public benefits?

Why are Americans against paying taxes that ensure them greater public benefits?

They have too much already.

They have too much

Because I don’t want to gibs mo money to lazy nigger government workers that cannot get fired.

The republicans like it that way.

because jews cannot be allowed to win on this time shitty use of Gaddafi BTW

Because the government wastes my money, the state of Michigan hires contractor's from the lowest denominator

The government has a printing press. I don't.

>greater public benefits?
You mean further enlarged bureaucracy?

He doesn't deserve a gaddafi

Because the USA are currently afflicted with a malign type of cancer. It first needs to undergo chemotherapy before its health condition can improve.

This. I'd be more than happy to pay taxes if I actually thought US money had intrinsic value behind it.

Because they would rather overpay for the same shit service instead of getting it for free through a public option. It makes them “feel” better because they think they worked for it.

Because it would cost me far less to pay for those benefits for myself. Being forced to pay for others really drives up the cost. Why are you so opposed to paying your own bills? If you want to, you can also voluntarily fund benefits for them. I receive NO benefits, and get taxed to death. So fuck off.

Logically, why wouldn't you advocate for consistent, government-maintained education, healthcare, childcare, etc.? What's the point of "small government" if the citizens are routinely shafted by corporations which control "small" government?

>more taxes in general
Fuck right off

The people who use the benefits don't pay for them. Thusly they don't use them responsibly. Pic related is why.

>Because it would cost me far less to pay for those benefits for myself
What if you belong to the dwindling middle class or increasingly larger lower class? A significant portion of the country cannot reasonably afford proper healthcare or child care, not to mention they are shafted from the get-go by poor food education, school debt, and high-stress employment situations.

Why do they even bother collecting taxes anymore anyway? They just invent money out of thin air already, or rather (((the fed))) does. Taxing us seems like an unnecessary and sadistic step in a process that ultimately ends in more fiction and scam.
They should just start taxing us in public floggings, it would have the exact same monetary value, and we as a people would become more serious about reform.

Money isn’t Real.

So what? Let nature take its course. Just as animals in nature die off when they are unable to feed themselves, useless and poor humans should also be allowed to starve. That's just how it is. Survival of the fittest, not forcing the fit to support those who are unfit. The unfit also tend to breed quite prolifically. When someone is a parasite, I need to 1) Support myself 2) Pay for my share of government 3) support the parasite and 4) pay HIS share of government. Then, he hill produce more like himself. We need to provide the most painless possible deaths to these people. I don't want them to suffer any more than they have to

because muh guns and bombs should take up more than 50% of any sane nation's budget

Beause they also want to enjoy robbing you, when you can't stop it.

>poor food education
Is this a new meme? You're fat because the government didn't tell you that eating fast food for every meal is terrible for you?

>school debt
I agree with this. Interest rates on loans should be significantly higher. Low interest rates encourages people to take out loans they shouldn't. Too many people are going to school for meaningless degree, living off of borrowed money, and then moaning when they can't pay back the loans they considered free money.

>high-stress employment
kek. Being a barista isn't high stress.

I honestly wanted to fuckin kill someone the first time I got my paycheck and instead of $1,800 it was barely $1,200 a week

>Give us more taxes
>Get "free" shit.
>Free

And $700 billion out of $4 trillion should not somehow be over 50% unless you are a retarded nigger.

>poor food education
Lobbyists should be barred from pushing food or drink on people simply to maximize a profit. All citizens should be afforded the dignity of proper food education (not this food pyramid or dairy industry bullshit). Likewise, fresh and healthy food should be made available to all citizens regardless of wealth status. It's common sense.

>school debt
All higher education should be offered for free. Education of any kind should not be for-profit.

>high-stress employment
All jobs entail some level of stress and all employers should make strides to ensure the comfort, stability, happiness, and financial independence necessary for a "happy", low-stress life. Work, of any kind, should never be soul-crushing.

>fresh and healthy food should be made available to all citizens regardless of wealth status
This already happens. You get your food stamps and buy whatever you want with it. When I was a teenage cashier, I noticed that the overwhelming majority of people on food stamps purchased pure junk or extravagant things like name brand foods, steaks, and seafood. There is no excuse for being obese other than laziness. None.

>All higher education should be offered for free.
Quite the opposite. The government subsidizing college has led to too many people enrolling in college, higher tuition, and less marketability for college educated workers. We're constantly lowering standard for high school students just to get these mongrels to pass. It's absurd that we would dump more money into paying for their college education.

>all employers should make strides to ensure the comfort, stability, happiness, and financial independence
It's alot easier to do this when the domestic workforce isn't forced to compete with third world laborers who flood into this country at will.

>being a barista isn't high stress
Yeah, but between waking up to get ready for work, doing a commute, then working 8 hours a day at a job dealing with customers who treat customer service workers like shit for scraps would stress someone out.

When have my taxes ever gone towards making my life better?

40 million illegals... That we know of.

>working for 8 hours stresses you out
Oh, sweetie, welcome to the real world. Us adults have to deal with people. There are no safe spaces out here, hun. Maybe you should go back to college and get a third PhD.

Because the people who pay the taxes see the least benefit from the services they sustain. The 1% pay the overwhelming majority of the tax revenue in the United States yet they don't use medicare, public transit, etc. They are effectively subsidizing an entire underclass of people who resent them. Any American wealthy enough to be paying thousands of dollars in tax very year would happily see welfare spending cut. Fucking ingrate poorfags.

t. facebook boomer

>Why are Americans against paying taxes that ensure illegals and niggers greater public benefits?

FTFY faggot.

kek. I'm 27. I worked retail through my undergrad and while I was getting my masters. By the time I had my masters, I was an assistant manager and was offered a store manager position. Some days in retail are stressful, but I definitely wouldn't consider it "high stress," especially for the entry level workers. Making your labor numbers and inventory is a bit stressful as a manager, but its nothing to complain about. The problem is the idiots are coddled by their parents and colleges for so long that they have no idea how to prioritize goals.

If you think retail is stressful you would never be able to handle an actually challenging and demanding job and that's probably the reason you are stuck working retail.

>He thinks all that tax money goes to “greater public benefits”

You make a valid point about the misuse of food stamps, but I'm trying to dig deeper than that. If all citizens were properly educated about what kind of food to buy and eat instead of blundering around due to the effects of rampant consumerism and capitalism, it is arguable that this would be a non-issue in most instances. Obviously, in a free democracy, people cannot be forced to choose what they eat, but better education and availability would logically yield to better choices.

For-profit education is immensely immoral and incompatible with a healthy, functioning society. Forcing droves of young people into debt is deeply counter-productive to a progressive, modern nation and only serves to reinforce the pseudo-robber baron capitalism in which we are so deeply entrenched.

Why don't you give me all of your money and let me decide how to spend it for you. Sound good faggot?

It's only "free" to leeches like you who don't pay any tax. To taxpayers these services are not free. And what we get out of them is not even remotely worth the loss of our money.

We’re doing that anyway? What are you suggesting? Pay more and more and more till it’s fucking communism and the government takes 100% of your pay?

If the money actually went to that no one would have a problem and the world would be rainbows and fucking unicorns. Unfortunately we have a race called Jews on this plant....

>And what we get out of them is not even remotely worth the loss of our money
Yeah, who the fuck uses roads, libraries, police, firemen, postal service, etc? Useless, shouldn't have to pay for them out of MY own pocket.

>ensure them greater public benefits
>them

You are either overly optimistic or naive. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink. Public education is already mandatory and yet people fail to get any thing out of it.

I work in a factory and thought the guy he replied to was being a bitch, the tone of the post was just really facebook boomery
>welcome to the real world
>us real people
>there are no safe spaces out here, hun

Every single of one of those combined costs me less than the money I am forced to pay into medicare and public transit, two things I do not use and never will use and which I believe are horribly implemented by the state.

Probably because the government is about as fiscally responsible as a 10 year old with a credit card.

americans who pay taxes (like me) receive next to nothing in "benefits"
all the "benefits" are siphoned off as sinecures for lawmakers and lobbyists, and what pittance remains is sent to "inner city communities" so "vibrant urban culture" can continue it's erosion of society, and "ethnic minorities" can continue to live on handouts from momma govt.


why the fuck would i wish to give (((them))) even one more of my hard earned dollars than i must?

I am 28 and work as a programmer. My job has infinitely more responsibility than being some shelf stocker at Wal Mart yet you don't see me crying about the pressure. When a retailer fucks up maybe a customer chews them out for 10 minutes because they were slow or put something on the wrong shelf. When I fuck up I endanger a multimillion dollar client engagement and potentially set back a commercial product's release date. If you or that guy had my job you'd probably be inconsolable and in therapy twice a week.

He's a communist. You can't argue with a communist because they're already brain dead, but you can finish the job by inflicting medical death upon them.

> gibs me moar munnies...
> public option...
> free...
it's not "free" if you have to take even more of my moneys to feed your endless hunger for "dem programz"

>public benefit
That's democrat jive for off the books welfare.

>If all citizens were properly educated about what kind of food to buy and eat instead of blundering around due to the effects of rampant consumerism and capitalism
Everyone IS educated about which foods are healthy. Walk up to any lard ass and ask them if they realize McDonalds isn't good for them. They know, they just don't care. This stuff is taught for years in school, and its all readily available on the internet. Hell, if you look on the internet the exact number of calories can be found for any food item you can think of. They'd rather kill themselves early than eat broccoli that they have to cook themselves. The government can only help those who want to help themselves.

>For-profit education is immensely immoral and incompatible with a healthy
If the graduation rates and costs are all available to the student before they enroll, and the student still decides to enroll, I don't see the problem.

The real problem with education is state colleges and cheap education loans that are subsidized by the federal government. Students take out loans, live on them for four years, develop no plan for a career after college, and then act surprised when the bill becomes due. But again, even this isn't immoral. All the costs, graduation rates, and employment numbers are available to students before hand. Hell, they even require you to go through a seminar to get the loans.

The cost of freedom is that your actions have consequences. Insulating people from the consequences of their actions creates a moral hazard.

>two things I do not use and never will use

But millions of other Americans DO use those things. Why shouldn't they be afforded those things because you personally don't use them? Wouldn't it be in everyone's best interest if you instead pushed for reform in implementation of either thing? Isn't it a traditionally American value to care for one's community and take care of one's neighbors?

>Public education is already mandatory and yet people fail to get any thing out of it.
Correct, because the system is inherently flawed. There is serious need for total educational reform—doing away with standardized testing is particularly key to this. Our students do not learn because our system prevents teachers from actually teaching.

I am not a communist and I am not particularly interested in communism. I am simply interested in affording Americans the necessary and fundamental rights which they deserve—like the socialized medicine you are afforded in Canada.

the tax system has been warped into a beaurocratic wealth redistribution system and is more socialist in nature than ever should be allowed here. government schools indoctrinating children. welfare , SS. its a fucking abomination.

how would you even know what it was like under small government? u never lived during that era? or is that what your sociology course taught you? its not true, fucking dumbfuck

medicine and healthcare by their very definition is not a "right" illiterate fucking leaf

>There is serious need for total educational reform—doing away with standardized testing is particularly key to this. Our students do not learn because our system prevents teachers from actually teaching.
How can we objectively measure how much students are learning if we don't have tests that are standardized across school systems?

>If you or that guy had my job you'd probably be inconsolable and in therapy twice a week.

that's because you're poisoning yourself with blue light, and not getting any exercise while you work

Is basically a redistribution of wealth in a way.

You take from everyone and only give hand outs to a select few.

It's a terrible system.

> US budget concerns from germany
> thinks we spend 50% on military
> doesnt know that the social programs to feed clothe and care for illegals, niggers, congressmen and other useless parasites consumes roughly 60% of the US federal budget
> completely unaware that the 14% of our budget we DO pay for military spending is also covering YOUR defense too (along with sweden, holland, austria, france, et al
> proving once and for all that "germans B gud at math and sheeit" is just as fake as "Big Black Cocks"

>But millions of other Americans DO use those things. Why shouldn't they be afforded those things because you personally don't use them?
Because I'm paying for it, dumb dumb. I don't object to these things existing; I object to being forced to pay for things I don't use and have no interest in using. I am not even consulted about how much I would like to contribute. Hell, I donate to my Alma Mater and to various arts programs that I give my patronage to (the local theater troupe and a few museums). I'd chip in for public education if I was given a say in it. I just don't like having my wealth extracted from me by force and then horribly mismanaged by career bureaucrats.

we're greedy. I mean some aren't but most of us are.

we pay 700 billion every year on a life support system for non-whites

haha because the "public" is comprised of leeches and retards who need to be taken off life support and add value to the earth.

>he doesn't know about standing desks and glasses that filter out blue light

Spics and niggers abuse the public till by virtue of being dishonest and inferior.

I actually have this cool foot pedal doodad under my desk that lets me burn carbs while at the keyboard, unfortunately since I got promoted a few years ago I'm not at my desk so much due to being in meetings all the time.

When you don't pay for "public benefits", you can still get them from private business. It's better because you have the choice of buying it or not. If you don't need it, you don't pay.it.

Taxation on the other hand takes away your choices. You can't stop paying it if you don't need it, and you can't choose the school you want to go for example, they all work the same way.

This is patently false.

Why is there a necessity to objectively measure how much students are learning? Standardized testing is utterly counter-productive.

> fresh and healthy food should be made available to all citizens regardless of wealth status

is this the next "human right" you will be pushing?
i thought you were gonna go with "housing is a right" first since fat bitches is pretty much how you stay in business down there in the lowest common denominator.

Why are Americans against taxing themselves into prosperity?

You got me there.


Kadaffi's last words: "Should'a paid that bitch's foundation."

because only white people pay net+ taxes over a lifetime, it is not a social net, it is a redistribution

>Why is there a necessity to objectively measure how much students are learning? Standardized testing is utterly counter-productive.
Because we have to measure how much students are learning. The second issue I have with this absurd idea is that its mainly fueled by falling test scores. The answer to lowered test scores isn't to do away with tests.

sorry bud, healthcare is a privilege. I know you think arguing the very definition is making you somehow virtuous and you love that rush altruism gives you, but in reality you are mixing definitions.

US Whites pay taxes to provide benefits to spics and nigs. Why should they like this set up?

>public benefits
Have you ever stood in line at the DMV? Do you want more of that for every facet of your life?

becaise paying taxes dosen't ensure a greater public benefit, especially in blue states.

I don’t care about anyone but myself

Our military budget is less than a quarter of the total. Healthcare and welfare services make up more than 50% while being probably the least efficient healthcare service on Earth.

if you cannot afford healthcare then it is incumbant on your family or friends to help you. using the government as a blugeon to force me to pay for it is by the very definition coersion
the idea of a free country is "free of coersion" not free to do whatever i want.
this is why you are illiterate. that is what charities are for, if i feel like i have enough to give, then i will give to you freely to help, but a "right" cannot simotaneously coerce another. do you get it yet? are we learning?

>It's better because you have the choice of buying it or not. If you don't need it, you don't pay.it.
Inherently flawed, because then a private business can dictate the terms of any such benefit.

>you can't choose the school you want to go for example, they all work the same way.
This is a non-issue if all education was reformed to be consistent across the entire country. Logically, all institutions of learning should be equal, all citizens should be afforded access to the same quality of education.

Arguing against access to healthy food and education re: healthy food makes literally zero sense.

>Because we have to measure how much students are learning
There is no actual reason to do this, though. Is the purpose of education not to create learned, well-rounded, capable individuals? How does a curriculum which caters directly to a standardized test achieve these outcomes?

Currently, health care is not a privilege in this country, correct. But there is absolutely no logical reason why it shouldn't be treated as such.

the public good is indivisible. If there are many subgroups in the population with different preferences, the individual taxpayer ends up consuming a public good that does not fit his preferences, hence he prefers to allocate more of his wealth in private consumption.

t. economist

>Why are Americans against paying taxes that ensure them greater public benefits?
Remove the niggers, spics, and all of the rest of the gibs faggots and your claim that "paying taxes that ensure them greater public benefits" would become closer to being true.

>Is the purpose of education not to create learned, well-rounded, capable individuals? How does a curriculum which caters directly to a standardized test achieve these outcomes?
The standardized tests set the bar for that the students should learn to successfully move to the next level. If the teacher decides to teach the test, then that is on the teacher.

>if you cannot afford healthcare then it is incumbant on your family or friends

There is no good reason for it to stop there. Any given community should be providing the necessary help to all its members, regardless of blood relation.

durr....pay for illegals, why dont cha?

>ensure

>Any given community should be providing the necessary help to all its members
The problem is that "necessary help" now means "any procedure that has a chance of saving their life, no matter how extraordinary." Add in the fact that half of healthcare costs are caused by obesity-related illness, something that is easily treatable by the patient, and you arrive at people's reluctance to fund healthcare for everyone.

This is how it works in an ideal world, but absolutely not how it works in reality. Standardized testing only exists for use to get in dick-measuring contests with other countries. There is no basis in standardized testing for teaching individuals how to be happy, successful, or intelligent. Not to mention, not every student learns uniformly in the way that standardized testing dictates. Students who cannot fall in line with the established system are failed by the education system and by the public at large.

my favorite image ever

Because the private sector does everything the government can do but better, that's why.

What is wrong with "ensure"

>ensure
>public benefits
That money goes to cronies, niggers, and others who refuse to work or game the system.

>Logically, why wouldn't you advocate for consistent, government-maintained education, healthcare, childcare, etc.?
Yes, please take my money to indoctrinate our youth, tell people when they are no longer worth treating because they're "too old" or "too sick", and indoctrinate our youth some more.

And while you're at it, collapse all remaining innovation in multiple critical markets.

This is very logical. I can see why everyone wants this.

>Standardized testing only exists for use to get in dick-measuring contests with other countries.
They serve as a way to measure school performance. Why is it that every country in the world is able to use standardized tests successful, except the US? Is that our students are too smart for them? Are our teachers too talented to teach students what they need to know to pass the test?

I don't understand what you propose to replace them with. Some subjective test created by each teacher or school individually? Schools and teachers are already gaming the standardized tests, imagine how much foolishness would go on if they had all the power over who fails and passes.

>not every student learns uniformly in the way that standardized testing dictates
The test doesn't dictate how teachers are supposed to teach, it just tells them what material they have to teach. It's up to the teacher to engage and educate students according to their individual needs. If you're arguing that each teacher is skills enough to develop their own testing standards, they should be able to handle this task as well.

>Students who cannot fall in line with the established system are failed by the education system
Teachers who cannot educate students are failing them. Measuring their performance against an objective standard isn't the reason they are failing.