Russia leaves coomunism in 1991, it's now a failed shithole

> Russia leaves coomunism in 1991, it's now a failed shithole

>China didn't leave communism, it's now the most powerful and rich country in the world

Why are Russkies so dumb?

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China is not real communisim.

China left communism in 1978 my friend.

>China is not real communisim.

Russia failed to win an economic war against the US and suffered the consequences.

China was massively bolstered by kikes and capitalists in the US literally selling the country part and parcel down the river to the chinese for the sake of a few decades better profits.

Now China has all the jobs, all the industry, and the massively growing middle class.

China is corrupt nationalist market-capitalism.

You used greentext wrong.

It should be:

>Believing China is real communism

U dont have a good grasp on history or economics, do U?

China use CAPITALISM for its economy and Communism for its governing.

Russia isn't a failed sh*thole, they're growing their economy in a responsible way by NOT taking on trillions of debt, like the dumbasses in the USA.

>he believes the American imperialist lies
lol k sheepie

China was called "the sleeping giant" precisely because they shot themselves in the foot with Communism.

it wasn't a mistake, Israel Cohen had everything to do with building the dystopia needed to fill factories with hungry workers

changing name doesn't mean change a person. Pootin and Co are KGB criminal scum. They were. They will be.

China has a massive internal debt problem. The moment the US (which has the same problem) defaults on an interest payment it'll come crashing down.

Dumb cunt. China population is 20 times bigger than russian.

it will annex australia and take your resources and space then

>20 times
So this is the power of Russian education...

>China...now the most powerful and rich country in the world
Sure, if we ignore reality.

If you ignore reality you can argue anything.

Russia was a,ways a failed shithole. Not one good year since the 18th century. Only poverty, and snow

China is a mixed economy.
To call it "communist" is retarded because communism can't really exist without collective ownership of the means of production. It's literally the core idea of communism.

Chinese laws are hardly enforced. Its freer than the U.S. honestly.

>Doesn't leave communism
>Most powerful and rich country in the world

The state of Bong economic education

>To call it "communist" is retarded because communism can't really exist

1980s USSR wasnt also communistic

> Its freer than the U.S. honestly.

Russia wasted too many money on a useless arm race with NATO.

Communism as in final stage of socioeconomic development probably not, but Soviet system was "communist", or socialist if you want. Everything was owned by the state/people, and private ownership of the means of production was forbidden.

>Why are Russkies so dumb?
I blame american interference.

I'm marrying a Russian and according to her Russians have always been dumb.

Good luck!

Don't make fool out of yourself, OP.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_market_economy

This, and you realize Chinese are submissive fucks, right?

The former soviet union had almost twice the population of modern Russia and modern Russia has almost twice the GDP per capita of China. Sorry communists I hate to spoil your fantasies.

It's fine. She already has a green card and money of her own.

Hence why she got the fuck out of Russia.

>everyone in this thread took the bait

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China is the perfect infallible communism that's never been tried before.
Turns out it's turbo capitalism.

Do you know what communism is, faggot? Is China a classless, stateless, moneyless society?
It's not even socialist, because private ownership is not prohibited.

Also this. But if China starts rivaling them, they'll crash it, too.

Jews tricked them to give up communism in the 90s

The Chinese analyzed what happened to Russia and concluded it was wrong to relinquish political control while undergoing economic restructuring. The held on to power and restructured on their own terms. China is communist in name only.

GDP per capita has always been the metric to show how successful a country is.

Are you mentally deficient? Putin being KGB scum doesn't make modern Russia same as USSR. It's not socialist.

They have gotten the whole world co-operating with them.

>N-not real communism!
Sup Forums is #imwithher now

>it's now the most powerful and rich country in the world
And yeah, this is just not even close to the truth.

What is communism, you brainlet? Even USSR wasn't communist.

China is not the world's superpower because the remnants of communism still hold them back.

I am not Chinese. I am an expat. But China is the most capitalist country on the face of the earth. However they are also the most well-run country on the face of the earth. It is crazy I go to one city in the mainland come back a few months later and it has completely changed, the rate of change is insane! Xi Jinping is the smartest world leader and this will be the Chinese century. This doesn't make me happy as an Australian anglo. However it is just the way it is.

Kys this wasn't even clever faggot

>China didn't leave communism
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
This isn't the 1970's

agree.

In what sense?

>It's another episode of willful commie ignorance

Russia has always been a threat to the atlantic empires. From the British down to the US. Russia is the only opposition option - a white country that has superpower potential. No matter how powerful the south american, african, asian states become, the grudging secret of the left and right in the atlantic empires is that they will never ally or want to be ruled over by non whites.

This is why Russia is a threat, and China isn't. It can't coopt support away from the West.

The US elites dropped their war on China and turned it into its own factory. Using China as slave labour for all their luxuries. Chinese elite are then allowed to keep being elites. Everyone that matters in this scenario wins.

Russia on the other hand has to be crushed. Blockaded, embargoed, sanctioned. No one is really allowed to buy Russian stuff, or sell them certain things, etc.

>a white country that has superpower potential.
It's not and it doesn't. I'll forgive you because you clearly have never been there but there is a very, very good reason that Russia is shit and has always been shit: it's full of Russians.

>numbers going till 2008

wow what a recent statistic you got there, incredible

Russia done fucked up by messing with 'murrca, boh. They could have been a free trade utopian ethnostate without a single Jew in their borders and they still would have gotten their nose shoved in shit.

Fuck off Paddy

all fucking commies must fucking hang
>in all fields

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If that's how you're defining communism, it doesn't exist.

Sorry m8. I still love you guys, you're just...different.

Moronic,ill-informed garbage.

Russia has the potential to become an economic superpower.
Military superpower status is kind of defunct in the 21st century as mutualy assured destruction will reign the big boys in.
China will be the biggest economic superpower at some point in this century the world will shift from the USD as the staple currency to the RMB

They tried real communism, it was fucking awful and they are trying to sweep the entire thing under the rug. These days, it's more like hypercorrupt state managed capitalism in a single party political environment, basically it is a cyberpunk dystopia.

I like you Russia

Again, corruption has been a problem but it being stamped out. The change is so fast I was recently in an area where the wealthy in Shenzhen hang out and they had completly changed from being show-offs with their brand named stuff.

>the world will shift from the USD as the staple currency to the RMB
No they won't because the chinks will never let the RMB float freely in value with the market.

Admittedly there is crazy pollution problems but have a single force as government I believe China will be completely reliant on renewable energy relatively quickly

Do you realize how fucked USA is if this does happen though that 19 trillion in debt you can currently print that shit.

It's neither capitalism
Simulates the free market without beeing a free market
All companies and rich are extensions of the regime

Hopefully the pollution solution won't damage to the economy too hard.

But I don't think this will happen any time too soon. Certainly not in the next decade or so

>Russia has the potential to become an economic superpower.

It does and it doesn't. Geography is a huge disadvantage to Russia as much as it could be an advantage. Lack of habitable area hinders it massively, as does the lack of will to change politically. Potentially, maybe one day, but I've got the potential to bang Jennifer Lawrence but it doesn't mean I'll realise it.

It's worth nothing that London, the city, almost has as high of a GDP as the whole of Russia.

Private ownership is temporal
And when you think twice there are no classes in china
Both rich and poor serve the state
In china rich people are autorized managers

>Why are Russkies so dumb?
Because we are retards.

I think it might actually be a force for growth especially if the west buys into commitments and becomes reliant on Chinese made sources of renewable energy. Also loads of countrys will fall under the Chinese sphere of economic influence through soft power i.e the Eurasian countries possibly even Russia.

Are you fucking retarded? Honest question.

Unfortunately
And wrongly actually
It leads to caducity in everything

Because china is literally the worst country in the world to do business. There economy is doing so well because they refuse to pay anyone.

America Companies literally built there entire infrastructure and china kicked them out without paying.

I agree London is a better place to live than Russia, I also considering Bay Area.

Yeah I was being kind, to a degree. Of course I think they have a better chance of becoming an economic superpower than you banging jenifer lawrence. But I agree with you assessment. They have a shit load of natural resources though, I don't see them getting their shit together.

Russia is also like a fake Rolex saying look at me look how good I am. China is like a seiko low key but just fucking tugging along nicely.

>America Companies literally built there entire
There may be some truth but not in the way you think

I am convinced your banks/the international banking cartel decided to rise china to where they are now

Technological transfers, capital transfers
All is set for the same mafia to betray you too

Not true. I do business in China and am making alot of money. I am Australian.
It is a difficult place to do business in for a foreigner sure. But loads of foreigners and individuals are getting rich free from the state. I have met USD billonares who made there money from really simplistic products sunglasses, suitcases and even christmas lights. If you live in America I gaurentee if you have had christmas lights I know the guy who supplied 90 % of the US. He is crazy.

And this idea of Chinese companies all being tied to the state is stupid. Certainly alot of large companies are, but most of the small companies don't even pay taxes. I was seeing this really hot chinese girl Inb4 racemixing was just have a bit of fun . she was doing business and i asked her about tax and she looked at me like I literally asked her if she throws money out the window.

>get capitalists to build your entire economy
>operate like it was communism (aka with no worker or individual rights whatsoever)
>profit

wow so hard to grasp

>anarchist
Opinion disregarded

I'm not chinese my English has just been retarded because i'm multi tasking.

Stupidity level is giving me cancer

Go live as a Chinese worker, and tell us about it.

It's pretty much classical fascism.

The state is ruled by a single party, the members have extensive corporate networks. Corporations exist but must obey to the sate, lobbying works the other way around than in the West.

I would prefer the Chinese Government than nearly any other Government in the world to Govern me.

>Flag
>Pro PRC

Checks out.

How's the weather on the mainland?

China is Authoritarian, it's not at all Communism

Russia lost a ton of it's wealth because the USSR was split up, the Ruskies stole a ton of oil & resources from Central Asia, they can't do that anymore

I'm legitimatly an Aussie expat.
I just think China is on the right path they want a road to be built it gets fucking built.

YO anarachism man. Yo no government and shit

They already forgot this lesson & our starting to exercise their power, especially in the South China Sea, they should have waited another 20 years

New Silk Road. Won't need South China Sea. But who is going to stop them anyway.

It will be difficult due to India & Muslims, but good on them if they get it done i guess

China like Israel is nat soc

Russia was raped by Jews and capitalists

China is more or less a mafia state at this point.

russian girls only exist to be bred by the superior big ITALIAN COCK

Lol China doesn't give a fuck about Muslims if they try and fuck with them they will just wipe em out they arn't pc like the west. And India is a joke.