I'm so confused Sup Forums

I'm so confused Sup Forums
Can anyone describe the difference between National Socialism and National Bolshevism?

Is it just a racial one? Or is there something more to it?

National Bolshevism got much more focus on socialist aspects and workers rights, instead of National and Racial aspects.

It's basically a rebranding of National Socialism for the sole reason of latter being demonized. It's like a communist version of Nat Soc, so it's more acceptable in mainstream.

Still a shitty ideology

>Can anyone describe the difference between National Socialism and National Bolshevism?
Well, National Socialism is a reaction to Bolshevism. The other is a half baked bastardization of strasserism that tries to take the best of National Socialism and the absolute worst of Bolshevism and make it work. This of course makes no sence because adherence to tradition is heavily stressed in National Socialism while Bolshevism tries to tear down the structure as a whole to create some utopian fantasy that never occurs.

Does it make sense now?

National Bolshevism is focussed on racial and national aspects, while also trying to enlarge the middle class and help out workers.

It's like National Socialism without the part where Hitler helped create Israel.
It's like National Socialism without the part where Hitler wasn't able to kill a single wealthy Jew.
It's like National Socialism without sucking Rothschild cock.

NB is much more of a command economy as opposed to a mixed economy

Bolshevism is inherently materialistic, i.e. A mechanical view of the world, which means that people and society can be engineered. This is the true reason why communism doesn't work: because communist societies over engineer their people and create more problems than the government can fix. Also in communism/Bolshevism, the government seems to take a priestly role, which then lends the idea that the government is justified in all its actions even if it ends up in the starvation of 20 million people. Also Bolshevism rejects the rights of people to order themselves into heirarchies.

Fascism on the other, which is inherently nationalistic, that nationalism is essential to the ethos of fascism, is spiritual. This equates to an organic view of society and man, i.e. Man and his society is an organic being that grows but cannot be engineered. Thus government does not act like a priest with some claimed connection to God, but as a gardener who tends to the society as a garden, understanding that the beauty of the garden cannot be created by the gardeners hand. The gardener keeps out the weeds and prevents th society from growing in directions that are contrary to the spirit of the garden.

National Bolshevism is still Jewish and foreign to white people. Slap nationalism on communism al you want. It's still communism and isn't natural.

>being a godless commie
Hell is for ever!

>It's like National Socialism without sucking Rothschild cock.
Isn't the whole reason why Anglos declared World War 2 Third Reich getting rid of Rothschild's and other jews' banking?

Strasserists who think Stalin was a pretty cool guy, as far as I can tell.

This is kinda what I thought it was. Like Strasserists who like Russian tanks to German ones.

isn't authentic natsoc anti-traditional?

One of the groups is full of retards and the other group is filled with retards

It's basically Strasserism and Stalinism's spawn child

Nazis in the SA/Brownshirt era were essentially Nazbols.

Fuck off commie scum

Scientific socialist commies are nationalist.

This is why the night of long knives had to happen and Strasserists became a thing.

>National Bolshevism?
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NatSoc is more focused on race and country

while NatBol is a meme.

They tend to be more internationalist too, in the cooperating across borders sense rather than dissolution of borders/states that true communists go out for. And they're even more anti-bourgeois than Strasserists.
All in all I think they're weirdos but not bad guys.

>rip the antifa logo for meme purposes
>literally emblazon it with the third positionist/WN symbol
>ZOMG THEYRE ANTIFA
This is your brain on autism

It isn't a meme. It is an actual political force in Russia.

If that was the case, he wouldn't have supported the Rothschilds with Israel.
He also would have killed Louis de Rothschild whom he captured , but as we all know, he was let go.

Rich Jews did not die in WWII, only the poor ones.
The rich ones got Israel and an even tighter grip on world politics.

You can't be a Bolshevik and a Nationalist

Whatcha doin rabbi?

What "true communists"?

You mean anarcho utopian types that have no plan on how to wither away the state?

What about these guys?

National Socialism is capitalism with racial focus and National Bolshevism is socialism with national focus.

natsocs weren't capitalists though

They aren't actual Bolsheviks. The original Bolsheviks were mainly comprised of Jews that wanted a one world government that operated under Communism or Socialism. Just look at what happenend during the German Revolution of 1918; the """"Russian"""" Bolsheviks started the (((SPD))) Party in Germany and led Germany to the Weimar Republic

Pretty much. I'm not particularly well-versed on the distinctions in the left (whereas I could tell you about six gorillion different types of rightism) but it seems to me that Nazbols are closer to the kind of commie that likes the Soviet Union and makes icepick jokes.

National socialists aren't capitalists. They're

>They're
...more racialized than other kinds of fascists though.

Nazi Germany had the largest privatizations of its time. A welfare state isnt socialism.

weren't the nazis collectivists? I mean they almost collectivized everything for the state?

Hitler had his own definition of Socialism.

Yes.
Churchill was beholden to 'The Focus' a shadowy group of kikes & capitalists who had financed him through his wilderness years.
America weren't slow to miss the main chance, so both they & us were happy to agitate in Poland to trigger or generally piss off Germany. TGSNT is horrifically biased, but is worth watching to get a handle on the timeline before diving into David Irving's work.
>Judge a jewish victory by the number of dead Euros & Russians.

I don't know much about NB, but I'll bet my left tit they're either communist fuckwits or trolls.

center right economy

It's moderate third positionism that uses commie imagery as an aesthetic / to remind people of the good ol' times. Basically slav version of peronism / titoism (on societal rather than economical aspects), as far as I can tell.

but how does privatization serve the interests of the country? They seem like corporate fascists to me now..