Nations and IQ

Is it possible for a poor country to increase +10 points in their avg IQ by improving the educational system? Or it's almost 100% genetic?

Example:
Bolivia is a shithole with an HDI of 0,674, a shit educational system and his avg IQ is 87. If they had a very good educational system, would their avg IQ increase to 97 or more? Or it is genetically impossible?

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I agree, it's certainly possible
Moreover, the IQ test is overrated and flawed. Many nations with high IQ, especially in Eastern Asia, may have tampered their result by purposefully targeting categories analogues to the real IQ test in their educational systems

We increased 30 with socialism.

youtube.com/watch?v=cs1hnKPMEkE

Yes and no. It's mainly biological, but also environment/education plays a role in IQ. Which is why East Asians have such a high IQ. They work harder than us.

the countries with the best education systems, have the highest IQs, so its probably not genetics. if you gave all those african countries good education, they would be much more sucessful.

but their ability to perform outside of their country shows intelligence.

Their ability inside their own countries as well.

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eh

Well, blacks in UK scores ~20 points more than blacks in Africa. Thats a great increase, but they still far away from the EU average.

Makes sence.

Indians are the highest earning ethnic group in the US (even wealthier than Jews and Chinese).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

The people you see in the West are not representative of their entire nation.

IQ is partially genetic and environmental (mostly related to malnutrition).
The Flynn effect is real but it has limits, and it already stopped in developed countries since malnutrition is too small to influence the average iq of the country.
The average Bolivian probably would not have the same IQ of whites, though.

id also connect it to average social class and subculture. like the African Americans, they aren't making it easier, because alot of them live in ghettos, take drugs and listen to shitty gangsta rap, since they are at the bottom of society, they dont have higher IQs on average. so id imagine in England it would have a similar thing going, and probably alot of dumb fucking migrants help drop the average IQ down a couple.

Rape is prevalent in Italy?
I didn't know that.

Some think studying Chinese characters gives a 5 point boost.
endphysics.com/chinese_characters_iq.html

Immigration is one of the reasons for that. They are 9% of the population but commit 40% of rapes.

Low IQ countries need to import sperm from high IQ donors, and impregnate their women with it, and pay them some money for their trouble. They could also import the donors themselves, and just collect the fresh sperm and impregnate women with it.
These hybrid offspring will be significantly smarter than the locals. Over time, the dumb country will become smart and prosperous.
This is the Solution to the world's problems. There is no other way.

American phychology association says its 80% genetic and apart from serious childhood illness or disease, environment does not affect intelligence. So places in the carribean where blacks live free of disease and illness can show us the kind of IQ we can expect from africa once it gets its act together.

Go ahead and check out carribean IQs.

If they want to protect their ethnic make up, they could merely ask for the people with very high iq within their countries to do it.

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what are you trying shitskin?

t. never met a chinkshit

I think it might be more to do with economics. Irelands been raped and colonised by the brits, vikings and French for centuries but the second we get our economy on par suddenly our IQ is shooting up.

Smart people arnt leaving.

ethnicity is a big illusion. humans are constantly changing and we must change. All of us. We have so much untapped potential.

China is already doing that.

The asians are smart meme is the result of a small number of smart asians making it to the US with the intention of ruling you.

All the chinese in Ireland are dumb and autistic.

I believe it can be increased but not by much
like can anyone explain to me why there are only 3 black chessgrandmasters ever only 1 from africa
Anyways genetics plays a big role

Yeah when we replace our brains with computers. Humans are trash. All of them. I dont hate black people and mexicans and chinks. I hate everyone. Throwing rubbish on the side of the road. Driving aggressively. Lazy in work. Fat and inactive. politically disconnected. Watching Marvel movies. You dont expect me to exterminate myself though do you?

I don't think of it that way. I see this type of eugenics, called eutelegenesis, as a tidal wave that will sweep everything we know away. we will start anew.

Individually speaking, maybe,
Colectively speaking, however, ethnicity and race matters a lot.

I think human IQ might be about to shoot up. Once robots have replaced almost all employment and governments start paying people to not have children.

Only our best will reproduce. However, AI is right around the corner and will render human accomplishment and intelligence meaningless.

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Only when they're being crippled by other factors (malnutrition, disease, etc) from reaching their potential. You can't elevate them past their genetic ceiling.

>If they had a very good educational system
Education has nothing to do with IQ. IQ, or general intelligence, is an innate attribute that can be measured by something as simple as reaction times to a flashing light.

Dood I'm basically proposing we 'bleach' africa with sperm donors. But not really, because these hybrides could be smart too, and they could help with the process too, making a sort of brazillian race, but smarter. The point is, with sperm being so abundant, the intelligent genes will win out in the end. and that is what is important.

This IQ map is a fraud for starters. Lynn didn't actually test 100+ countries and of those he did test the national IQ was determined with a classroom of children. Only western countries have accurately had their IQs tested because it's a meme test from the 70's and psychologists no longer view intelligence as measurable on a linear scale.

This map you provided is more of a map of stereotypes on intelligence. Lynn had shot his arrow and then painted the target around it.

We fucking told you dumb degenerates, Argentina is fucking white

The map is a literal fraud and Argentians aren't white

France is better than Iceland?

it's possible to kick out niggers and spics

Post a single, scientific study that backs up that map.

It's a rendering of a non-peer-reviewed, unscientific, fallacious extrapolation. It was debunked. It's the opposite of true.

Try to find a source--I dare you.

How do I know you're not a spider though?

Right, well my idea is to pay people, even dumb people, to have smart children with these sperm donors. And I'm flexible, they could have a mix of children. But I think once the practice catches on, people will see the wondrous abilities of these children and want more of them. The future is in jeopardy because not enough smart people are being born to manage all the technology we depend on, and also keep countries table and prosperous and peaceful. We have borders and conflicts and people are killing each other and it's terrible and has got to change.

Isnt that map just based on a bunch of differenet IQ tests carried out over time? Dont get defensive about Africa. Pigmies, starving people and the diseased are dragging them down. They would be very low average otherwise.

Nope. It's based on a non-scientific, "meta-study" carried out by making faulty assumptions, then randomly assigning numbers to countries.

I mean seriously, are you dumb enough to believe it? Zimbabwe can't buy food. You really think that they have an official department of IQ scoring, that statistics were collected from?

Well it kind of makes sense that the continent in the worst shape would have the people with the lowest IQs, wouldnt it?

So what's the most reliable map or a list about nations and IQs?

But I will of course admit that IQ tests are not perfect. Now, the average Irish person has a higher IQ than the average Brit and the map does not show that.

I think PISA scores might be better. They are much more up to date. That map is based on various different studies and some of them are very old. Comparing apples with oranges that we described 50 years ago.

By the way? If those stats were based on actual tests that got performed? Every totalitarian country on the planet would release stats that said that all their citizens were 135+.

It's unscientific nonsense, based on nothing.

There isn't one. There just isn't one. That's the honest truth. IQ is scored according to cultural norms and government standards. There is absolutely no way to compare any kind of national scores measuring intelligence, between nations. Guess what? Every single nation, from the USA to Tajikistan, is lying about their scores.

It says the Irish have an IQ of 92 and that is fairly retarded. I can accept that. I also am fairly sure that its changed since then since we have an actual country now.

Get over it. Africans will see some increases in measured IQ but nothing huge. It doesnt matter anyway. The people with IQs above 130 will slaughter you and me just the same. Race wont save me or doom you.

If you use a USA IQ test, everyone not from the USA will score lower. Which of these plants is not like the other one?
-Cassava
-Ensente
-Sorghum
-Egusi

Lol you don't know the answer? That's how IQ tests work.

Thats not how IQ tests work. Thats a test of knowledge and not logic.

Anyway the meaning of life is to reproduce and people with lower IQs do that better. Our "betters" and driving themselves to extinction because they educate themselves for too long and dont reproduce.

Just get a little bit of money and then make yourself happy and have some kids. The game of life is multigenerational.

> (You)
Have you just never taken an IQ test, before? The questions seem like they aren't knowledge, to you, because you know "tomato" as well as an Ethiopian knows "ensente." You've never heard of an ensente, and don't know it's a banana. He's never heard of a tomato, and doesn't know it's a relative of the potato.

i saw a doc a few years ago i think it was a german doc where they tested people at the age of 10 an then at the age of 50 or something and they found out people increase their iq by 10 - 20 points during their lifetime.

Those fake inserts were put in by JIDF, retards.

Stop spreading it.

>my total lack of even pretend-sources is more accurate!
Fag.

You are making that up. No IQ test contains such subjective questions like that. Also no I have never taken an IQ test. I base my estimation of my IQ on how I ranked across multiple exams when I finished high school as well as my profession.

Im somewhere between 100 and 110. Since I often outsmart friends that supposedly have higher IQs than me I am a believer in different forms of intelligence. I dont think IQ tests, when performed correctly, are misleading.

Directly incorrect. Associating reptiles with their closest relatives is a standard, IQ question. Variations rely on plant-relationships.

It's not so much that you're wrong as it is that you don't have the slightest idea what the fuck you're talking about.

>Chile
>89% white
nani

I know enough that giving questions to people, using words they cant possibly know, is an invalid test and no one would take it seriously. If it was a test of vocabulary of words people could be expected to know, since they are from the area where the language is spoken, then it would be valid.

You arnt making very convincing arguements.

>Hispanic
>Race

Richwine is a fucking retard and he doesn't realize that all those whites in argentina are hispanic since it's a geographical term

Fucking idiot, if you have a high iq you know hispanic's not a race

Blame the beaners indian genes

>I know enough that giving questions to people, using words they cant possibly know, is an invalid test and no one would take it seriously.
You are correct.

Are you inable to click on the underlined links that will show you what comments I have responded to?

You are pointing out EXACTLY the thing that makes the idiotic maps like the one that OP posted seem so stupid.

You are making a claim that those IQ tests were poorly designed and localised rather than an argument against IQ tests being accurate when performed correctly.

Anyone who would present english language IQ tests to Africans, that could not speak english, would be laughed out of their profession. It never happened. Stop making such ridiculous arguments against IQ tests.

You are convincing me that you have an ideological problem with IQ tests and nothing else.

U.S and 150. I'm white

IQ is completely genetic and is usually about the parents IQ, mostly the dominant trait.

Or higher intelligence leads to the formation of a better education system. What causes education systems to come into existence in the first place? Honestly, intelligence and education are probably in a feedback loop.

lol

IT's because niggers in western countries tend to be only part black. Imagine some mulatto going in and getting 100 on his IQ test, but saying he's black then the full blown nigger going in and getting a 60. They average out to 80

If it's just two full blown nogs who go in and get an IQ exam it will be 60 and 60 so an average of 60.

All the higher IQ shows is the niggers are boning white women in your country.

Mexico has higher average IQ than Iran? The fuck? Iran is overflowing with engineers and physicists.

Mexico is a christian country and Iran is a Muslim country.

'nuff said.

So it Mexico sweetie

true

What? Speak human.

hint: blacks who have made it to the UK are not a random sample of blacks worldwide. what is brain drain

I know that african americans are mulattos, but UK blacks looks like 100% africans (probably because they are less time there than AM are in America), and they score higher than african americans.

IQ research tests are always rigged and nothing but propaganda

Based Latvia

>rape is rare....nowhere

Most Caribbean blacks have one or more European or Native or South Asian admixtures but environmental factors could allow for as much as a standard deviation rise.

>State Enforced Cuckery

LOL do you think these advance apes would do such a thing?

The Irish were never stupid just illiterate

Not state enforced. Just pay them. Women would do it, men wouldn't like it but maybe they could be persuaded with foreign aid. Do Africans really have a choice at this point? Everything is spiraling out of control over there because their IQs are too low. Mass starvation is on the horizon.

FIRST.

CHINA AVERAGE IQ IS 80. MOST OF THEM ARE POOR NIGGERS


SECOND.

INDIA AVERAGE IQ IS 65. MOST OF THEM ARE STINKY NIGGERS

THIRD.


NORTH KOREA AVERAGE IQ IS 65, MOST OF THEM ARE SOCIALIST NIGGERS

FOURTH. ARAB AVERAGE IQ IS 65. MOST OF THEM ARE INBRED NIGGERS.

Iran's IQ score is outdated.

Lynn/Vanhanen basically did not do IQ tests--they gathered existing test results and compared against some GDP data. It somehow became the gold-standard for IQ by nation all over the internet. But its only data point for Iran is the Valentine,1959 study. 1959 was a time of recovering from famine and poverty in Iran.

So, Iran's IQ was measured in one and only one study, which was done in the 1950s. That's all we got for Iran. Only three other countries in Lynn/Vanhanen have IQ data as outdated as Iran's.

>Mexico has higher average IQ than Iran? The fuck? Iran is overflowing with engineers and physicists.
Check here:
Lynn/Vanhanen didn't even do IQ tests for Iran.

The one's coming to Canada at least are essentially the smartest people from those countries, so naturally their children are genetically predisposed to be more intelligent (and their intelligence is more likely to be nurtured since their parents have an education)

It's necessary to do this research when progressives start trying to hold us responsible for the stupidity and laziness of others

Well I guess it is probably a former Spanish or Portugeuse colony and the one thing they were better at was exterminating groups which would otherwise becoming a total pain in the ass

Really, immigrants in Canada have a lower IQ? Because they are far more likely to attend university. Is this a result of whitey not rising up to the task or the eternal jew using affirmative action while constantly denying it?