Why are fujoshi so much numerous and poweful than Yuri fans?

Why are fujoshi so much numerous and poweful than Yuri fans?

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Because males are useless

I don't get that impression at all

They aren't. You just notice them more because you don't like them.

OP is officially on youtube.
youtube.com/watch?v=uD7DrF_tm_4

See the number of yaoi and yuri cercles at the Comiket?

Girls like gay shit and shipping more than boys do.

Are you taking the extra events for Touhou etc into account?

Fujos have tons of disposable income.

it's easier to mix gender as a girl than a boy

Because Yaoi is popular even among boys. Which is cuter, a boy fucking a girl (male) or a boy fucking a girl?

>the camera cuts to the back seat of a subaru, where Hanako, half-out of her gakuran, is wrist-deep in Yuka's dripping gash as an aikatsu greatest hits cd plays
Not sure this show counts as yuri, guys, it's only one couple and didn't Yuka smile at a guy once?

>the camera cuts to Taro and Daisuke going over their math homework in a booth in Starbucks
REEEEEEEE FUJOBAIT

Who cares, Looney Tunes fans greatly outnumber them.

this is objectively wrong.

Just like OP's assumption.

because women are more uniform in their love for yaoi then men are in their love for yuri. It can probably be argued that both yuri and yaoi (mostly) grew out of a shoujo manga demographic, and the yuri fandom both in the west and Japan is either majority female as well, or at least a 50/50 m/f split.

Look at all the Sup Forums posters who hate yuri because 'lesbians can't have sex, no penis.' With no penis and no one to self insert as, a lot of het men don't like yuri. Women have an easier time self-inserting as a male uke then men would as a lesbian.

Also some fujoshi are very insecure about their appearance and seeing straight sex still makes them feel low self esteem if the woman is drawn skinny or hot. 'muh male gaze!' women who like yaoi are like dudes who watch lesbian porn cuz they don't wanna see dick (i.e. , insecurity over their masculinity (or femininity, in the fujoshi's case))

Fujos are batshit insane.

Because fujos are more willing to bring out the sheckles for their hobby, so the industry panders to them more and more because thats where the money is. It's not exactly rocket science.

because yurifags are beta and even fujoshi are more aggressive than they are.

they got their husbands money to spend on merchandise, yuri-neet fags are broke as a joke.

I like yaoi and bl because it's just suffering.

Girls eventually find a whiteknight to save them or everyone just accepts them because they're cute. No one likes gays, and because of that they can never be really happy.

Female otaku actually want their pairings to end up together while male otaku only want teasing and will get mad if their cute anime girls actually eat each other's pussy.

Men have trouble self-inserting into something that doesn't have a penis. Most hardcore yuri fans are girls.

I am a fujoshi and I can say with 100% certainty that I hold no power to turn any characters in anime/manga gay or make my OTP come true
trust me, I tried

>yuri fans don't spend money
>what is Love Live

love live isn't yuri. gtfo mugi-kun
this basically. unless it's drawn by a woman or meant to appeal to women, a good chunk of "yuri" becomes futanari or an FFM threesome in doujinshi.

>Which is cuter, a boy fucking a girl (male) or a boy fucking a girl?
I see you don't read vanilla.
Also, trap H-manga these days have the problem of making the traps huge cock-loving sluts, and love stories between boys and girls (male) are exceedingly rare. The same is sadly true for loli manga as well; too many little girls are just cock-gobbling semen demons.

It's demonstrated. Women are more likely to be bi than men.

But LT is yaoi.

>muh male gaze
Have you considered that some het women simply don't want to see tits and pussy because it's not attractive to them? One guy is hot for them, two are even hotter. It's not about self-inserting, it's about watching a sex act involving two aesthetically and sexually attractive individuals instead of just one.

Regardless of culture, when having access to money, women are the biggest consumers. This is why big companies always aim for that market. It's also why your favorite company/product doesn't care about you anymore and ruined the thing you love.

It's not about low self esteem. In yaoi you can envision relationships where a male is the one getting dominated, which only makes sense when another guy is doing it to him because femdom is retarded and boring.
Hetero relationships are also boring because even a homely female can get herself a couple of beta orbiters to do her biding, so there's no intrigue in it(meanwhile a male has to compete for a female's attention). Plus in a hetero romance a heroine is always portrayed as an object of affection and is put on a pedestal, meanwhile yaoi fangirls want to see their husbando in that position, which is only possible in yaoi fantasies.

>Hetero relationships are also boring
I meant to say that it's boring to relate to.

>all the Sup Forums posters
it's just that one guy though

I watch yaoi because I'm completely asexual and nothing arouses me, but men are simply aesthetically pleasing to look at. Women's bodies are wobbly and disgusting, and their voices are painfully shrill and piercing.

Their voices become deeper if you watch the anime at 50% speed.

>implying I don't self insert as the seme

Most of the girls I've spoken to who like yaoi do. You're definitely not unique.

Technically I'm both fujo and yurifag but I mostly watch fujoshit because
- there are more attractive 2D males than 2D females opposite of real life
- fujobait gets more art and doujins etc than yuribait, more imagination fuel
- anything with female characters and romance attracts self righteous moralfags like flies, look at how they acted like the yuri NTR anime personally raped them with a chair
- male characters on average get more screentime with each other and more exciting interactions, again more fuel

>and the yuri fandom both in the west and Japan is either majority female as well, or at least a 50/50 m/f split.
It mostly male in Japan.

Girls on top with male focus only come in BDSM, trap, and /ss/ flavors unfortunately. If you want one or none of these the girl is still the focus of the doujin.

And a well crafted one of the above will be leagues better than any BL, especially if it's the same boring tripe over and over again.

But Yaoi also has its problems. A by-girls-for-girls genre like BL also has many male leads in the stereotypical role of the "girl", so only the top has to really try. If anything I can appreciate how the dynamics can be varied, but looking at it through a typical relationship lense it's all just the same shit but with two dicks instead of one.

I haven't heard that one before.

> Female otaku actually want their pairings to end up together while male otaku only want teasing

What the fuck do you think fujobaiting is? Female otaku and fujos can just sustain themselves off of character interactions and have their imaginations fill the gap, same as male otaku. A lot of the shows they flock to don't actually have the boys end up together. Stuff like No 6, Gays on Ice, and (maybe) SamFlam are the exception.

Cute boys having cute discussions revealing their pure desire to achieve parenthood. What a shame the only potential breedable human girl in the show doesn't do anything besides hose a nigga off with cold water every morning. I mean I guess it'd be fun to get your seed all mixed up in some ectoplasm, though.

No. Most female otaku, especially the fujoshi who grew out of shoujo manga, do not want canon touching their ship. They've learned that creators will often fuck up romance of any kind and would much rather everything stay ambiguous.

He isn't saying they need their pairings to end up together, just that they'd prefer it if given the choice. But I think he's wrong about
>male otaku only want teasing and will get mad if their cute anime girls actually eat each other's pussy.
The ones who want teasing aren't the ones getting mad, the difference is more male otaku who hate homos (female) and steer clear if the yuri is too strong, while female hetfags generally can ignore any homo and enjoy the show.

Females liking gay romance is more socially accepted than males liking lesbian sex.

then why is there so much lesbian porn aimed at dudes?

They said "socially accepted", just because you watch or even pay for porn doesn't mean you talk about it in your social life.

Though comparing romance to porn is wrong, the comparison is gay romance - lesbian romance or gay porn - lesbian porn.

>It mostly male in Japan.
Completely false. Most Yuri mangaka are female. yuri magazine are aimed at female and if you ever browse pixiv or similar, you know girl who ship homo couples tend to draw some yuri fanarts.

>Female otaku and fujos can just sustain themselves off of character interactions and have their imaginations fill the gap, same as male otaku.
Just because they can, doesn't mean they wish for it.

Fujo have no power over magazine and writers, so they need to settle for what they are given.

>Females liking gay romance is more socially accepted than males liking lesbian sex.
What? If anything lesbian sex is pretty much widely accepted even in most homophobic cultures.

You can see it on Sup Forums, people flip their shit at homos but no one gives a shit about Saki and Mari in SSY or Illya.


> do not want canon touching their ship
Citation needed.

Is it? Fujo here, I always got the impression it was the other way around. In my country it's almost unmanly for a guy not to like the idea of lesbians. A romanticised idea of them sure, preferably bisexuals who'll fawn over the dick, but still.

About half of the yuri fans are also fujos. When it comes to actually spending money pretty fagboys sell more like huge tits to men. The industry's catching up as well, next season will have probably the most fujoshit or fujobaits in recent memory.

It's accepted in theory ("you mean I can have her best friend too?") but not in practice ("you mean i can't? I'mma cure that bitch with my dick!").

This is the opposite of two men, which is accepted in practice (not gay if the balls don't touch, not gay if it's a younger boy, not gay if at happens at sea, Tuesday's your turn in the barrel) but not in theory.

>Most Yuri mangaka are female.
There are lots of males too and mangaka are not representative of the audience anyway.
>yuri magazine are aimed at female
Yurihime S was aimed at males, after it merged with Yurihime the resulting Yurihime was aimed at both and it drifted more toward Yurihime S content over time.
Mebae and L Girls were aimed at males.
Tsubomi was editorial linked with Kirara so it's generally seen as having been aimed at males.

And most serializations of yuri in non-yuri publications have been in shounen and seinen magazines. Yuri in shoujo and josei magazines are considerably rarer.
>and if you ever browse pixiv or similar, you know girl who ship homo couples tend to draw some yuri fanarts.
And tons of male artists draw yuri.

It is easier to find examples of cases of yuri events where attendance is mostly male.

>It's accepted in theory ("you mean I can have her best friend too?") but not in practice ("you mean i can't? I'mma cure that bitch with my dick!")
I've never seen anyone sum up and describe that contradiction as well as you did user.

Most men are into het and most women think yuri is just male gaze for straight dudes.

>most women think yuri is just male gaze for straight dudes
Yeah that's kinda sad too. Even lesbians end up reading yaoi as a result of this (see my lesbian experience with loneliness pretty sure she's not the only one far from it). Not that it isn't true for a sizeable number of yuri, but still.

That's basically it but even this example
>("you mean i can't? I'mma cure that bitch with my dick!")
is more the "theory" than the "practice" ("I'm outta here, get that girl shit away from me").

>most women think yuri is just male gaze for straight dudes.
Female yurishitter here, I could write a sjw style essay on why this makes me mad but since this isn't tumblr I'll just say it's annoying as fuck and why we can't have nice things.

Would you mind recommanding me something? My experience with yuri can be summed up with Utena, LWA, and Ryoko Ikeda.

>It is easier to find examples of cases of yuri events where attendance is mostly male.
Except this is completely false. Most online polls and most IRL events have higher female attendance.


But, I preconize you. You are that guys who thought online polls about Yuri were lying.

Yeah, but are are talking about porn here. No straight teenager is going to be turned off by lesbian porn, lesbians don't even faze homophobes.

Of course this doesn't mean they don't get triggered by real lesbians too.

i see you

Ha! I knew it was the right choice to drop this crap.

this is a rabbit (male)

>Except this is completely false.
It is true. For example it's well known that GLF attendees are mostly. Here is a photo of people waiting to get in.

Faggit,

fujos spend more money

also yuri really only exists so that people can waifus that do lewd things while still being 'pure' because it doesn't count if its with a woman
A girl getting groped by another girl = okay
A girl getting groped by a non-self insert guy = completely ruined, will not buy keychains

Also, if you trust online polls so much, here's one conducted by a yuri site that showed 58% males:

yurinavi.com/2017/02/05/yurihime_anke_kekka/

Sorry, 56% male as a whole, 58% for those that read Yurihime.

>It's the same autist for last time

Holy shit, it really gets you angry that female make the majoirity of Yuri fans. But I thought you said online polls were lying?

another female yurishit dyke here, and this pisses me off too so very much. me and a lot of other dykes figured out how gay we are from yuri. tumblr feminists ruin everything

If the evidence was that women were the majority I would be perfectly fine with that.

Have you noticed how weak your claims are? It's you that has an emotional attach to your wrong belief.

>But I thought you said online polls were lying?
You would be foolish to put faith in polls where people choose whether to respond. I don't, but since you apparently do I gave you one.

>If the evidence was that women were the majority I would be perfectly fine with that.
>You would be foolish to put faith in polls where people choose whether to respond.
No you are not.

Both statements are entirely true.

only idiots think that online polls mean anything

don't bother oneesan. if something doesn't agree with their preconceived narrative they just shut their ears and scream and pretend it doesn't exist, then cherry pick photos allegedly from some dumb fucking event that 'proves' their point.
You could argue that the japanese yuri fandom is about 50/50 m/f (I don't believe it is, but you could argue it). But the western yuri fandom is very much female dominated.
the only significant yuri manga I can think of being done by a guy is sasameki koto. No, I don't count slice of life bait shit like the yurus to be yuri. Yurihime S was canceled because men ddidn't buy enough yuri to support it.
this is because lesbians please the het man dick, but really they're fetishizing bisexuals because they assume the women will want their dick at some point. it's not the sexual activity with other women that trigger the fuck out of homophobes and het men; it's the fact that women exist that want absolutely nothing to do with men or penis

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Nope, it shows you are unable to accept facts, unless it suits your agenda. Literally conspiracy theory tier.

Because yuri is a niche fetish whereas shipping men together is basically the default for female fans. Women gravitate to it much, much more strongly for a bunch of reasons (less desire to self insert, male characters/relationships are usually better written and more engaging, they like the additional taboo and drama, more insecurity relating to her own sexuality due to stigma/gender roles, etc).

Frankly, I don't understand why same sex shipping isn't universally more popular for everyone. The simple fact of being attracted to both characters makes everything more enjoyable, especially for porn. But men are more interested in imagining themselves in those situations while women are happy to or even prefer distancing themselves.

were you honestly expecting anything better or smarter from some deluded virgin het shit waifufag from Sup Forums?

Isn't the "Their Story" manhua written by a guy?

Never mind I was tricked

There's literally a subgenre for what you're looking for and you don't even have to hide the fact you're in the closet while watching it

Because Yuri is for Cucks

It does no such thing.

I'm actually a massive yuri fan.

Case in point
twitter.com/markiplayer/status/902609873120227329

All that matters is that yurifags (all of them always ugly males without exception) are considered pieces of shit and should feel ashamed for losing in spending abilities against fujoshi.
And that despite women earning less money than men.
How pathetic do you have to be as a male to lose against women who are into gay-acting dudes doing girly things?

>self insert as the seme
I do that too. I like fapping while I think of ukeish characters orgasming with my fictional self insert dick.
I don't even like A/Z but I'll be forever grateful to it for giving me my favourite character to fap to (fapbando?).

hahahahaha oh shit I need to save and use this. "but being a lesbian is misandry!" yeah male crybabies and fuck right off with that shit

How pathetic do you have to be to see at as a competition? Fujos don't give a shit because they don't spent their lives being angry at the opposite sex.

then stop bitching about /u/ being overrun by dykes

I just want all the sjws to go fucking read GL if they think BL is so "problematic". Just become a yurishitter and leave fujos alone.

Because the yuri audience is incredibly divided on how they actually want their yuri to be. Yuri couples can range from potential threesomes, to more-than-friends-but-less-than-lovers, to Class-S, to subtext, to cutsie drama-free, to serious angst-filled and everything in between. Should it be the purest form of love or raunchy fanservice? Some even prefer their yuri to be an accompaniment to another genre like CGDGT, mecha, or action rather than focused on the romance. And picking one of the above will usually alienate a large chunk of other yurifags.

I think this also causes the same "the yuri fanbase is x% of women/men" argument that always crops up in these threads up because the numbers change depending on the type of yuri in question.

>you like girls, that's SEXIST
>don't call me sweetheart tinydick
>I'm going to be conduction SURVEILLANCE on your account until you stop putting men down by being gay
I can't breath.

You're confusing Sup Forums with other cancer sites, lurk more.

an actual smart post for once.
potential threesomes if MFF is NOT yuri because there is a male involved. if people misinterpret stuff like Netsuzou Trap or Utena as potential threesomes though, that's on them for misinterpreting the genre

What the fuck are you talking about? What world are you living in? Did you even read this thread?