Hey guntards

When the founding fathers said that everyone has a right to bear arms they meant pic related, a fucking musket, not a high caliber semi automatic assault rifle with high capacity clips
If they were alive today they would be disappointed in you conservashits

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>implying they wouldn't immediately start slaughtering both political parties and restore rule to the people

>high caliber
>high capacity clips
kek

Sage
This argument has been BTFO in about 20 threads in the past week.

I mean shotguns and pistols make sense since they are good for home defense and regular self defense. An ar 15 on the other hand, why the fuck would you need one of those

wtf I hate the bill of rights now

Because. I. Can.

They would consider you an enemy and would hang you like the faggot that you are.

I have no problems whatsoever with pistols and shotguns either. Nobody needs a fucking semi auto rifle though, unless you want to live out your zombie apocalypse fantasies or whatever

Racist. It's because they're black and scary.

Another faggot to be executed when the civil war starts.
Keep pushing.

Pretty pathetic tbqh famalam

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To advocate a ban of any firearm is sedition, treason and murder. The punishment for these crimes is execution and the inability to enter God's kingdom. If you can sleep while knowing children are dying by your hand, you will stay eternally punished in Malebolge.

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I'm shitposting at this point. These arguments are retarded and you sound like urbanite suburbians that have been sheltered from reality. Wait until you figure out how this actually works.

>innability to enter gods kingdom
Have you even read the Bible dipshit? Live by the sword, die by the sword? Jesus was a hippie

Is this the shitposting thread?

>OP btfo in 41 seconds flat

The whole point of the 2nd amendment was for the citizens to protect themselves from tyranny.
Cant do that with a fucking musket.

We need guns so niggers can keep killing eachother.

Speaking against me while I speak the absolute truth is a crime against God.

It's just a semi auto .223 rifle you fucking noguns brainlet. If you're going to take ARs you might as well take anything scary looking. which won't solve fuck all because handguns kill exponentially more people in the US every year.

You people don't know what you're talking about. A fucking .223 rifle is not some kind of military grade assault weapon or whatever the fuck bullshit you think. It's a scary looking varmint gun. It's got slight SLIGHTLY more firepower than a .22.

If the (((government))) wants to throw you in a FEMA camp you'd want more than a pistol

>high caliber
You understand that the ar-15 is one of the smallest caliber guns, right? What was he diameter of a musket ball? .67” or some shit?

>ban high caliber muskets

>I have no problems whatsoever with pistols and shotguns either.

>Nobody needs a fucking semi auto rifle though, unless you want to live out your zombie apocalypse fantasies or whatever

First you say shotguns and pistols are a okay but then you say nobody needs semi auto. Do you not understand that most modern handguns and many modern shotguns are semi auto?

Also, home defense shotgun loads have a strong recoil. Even reduced recoil loads. I prefer an AR pattern firearm over a shotgun for that reason. Why specifically do you have a problem with that? AR pattern guns make great home defense firearms.

*intermediate caliber
*not assault rifle
*magazine

>when the founding fathers wrote the first amendment, they were talking about feather pen and paper, not the internet!!

Technology advancements do not change the purpose of a God-given right lmao

gunshills btfo

>I mean McDonalds and Burger King make sense since they are good for hunger. A Five Star hotel on the other hand , why the fuck would you need one of those

The 9mm handgun is the king of murder. Rifles cause less deaths per year than stabbings

>ban rifles
>achieve socialist utopia

Idiotic politicization of a literal non issue. I have a right to protect myself. So do you. No one is obligated to protect us. No one is allowed to infringe on my right to protect myself in order to provide you with the hollow illusion of safety.

Not an argument
Conspiratards are hopeless
Pistols have a lower capacity and smaller rounds

False equivalency

In the Ninth Bolgia, the Sowers of Discord are hacked and mutilated for all eternity by a large demon wielding a bloody sword; their bodies are divided as, in life, their sin was to tear apart what God had intended to be united.

EXACTLY. You are so right.
Also.
That Freedom of speech thing they wrote about, wasn't meant for retarded Fuck faces like you to bash "OUR" country.
Now get back under Brock's desk and assume your real position in life.
Faggot

Why do you think "need" has any place in the conversation?

It's not the bill of needs, you dolt. You don't "need" to post crap like this on the internet, but your RIGHT to is protected by law.

>If they were alive today they would be disappointed in you conservashits

So you're cool with it as long as the founding fathers had it in mind when they drafted the 2nd amendment? From the day the 2nd amendment was ratified and for 150 years after that the 2nd amendment applied to everything from a pistol, shotgun, rifle, all the way up to cannons. We know that was their intent as that was the way it was applied from day one.

So if they were fine with cannons I'm pretty sure they'd be okay with a rifle that fires a round much smaller than those the founders were firing out of their .75 caliber flintlock muskets.

>5.56 mm
>high caliber

Pick one.
Also, muskets were the modern technology of the day. Counter to your argument, civilians do not have access to modern, select fire rifles.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, FAGGOT.

Yeah, and tyrannical governments/criminals would also only have muskets back then, now they have "high caliber semi automatic assault rifle with high capacity clips".

Handguns are just as dangerous as rifles in many situations. I own both an AR and a 9mm handgun and in a home invasion, I would be reaching for the glock unless something specific called for otherwise (multiple intruders, armor, etc)

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>high caliber
you know that muskets had much higher calibers than modern firearms right? have you ever seen a musket ball? theyre fucking enormous? do you even know what "caliber" means?

Then they hired private battleships (Galleons) to combat the British Navy...

Private... Battleships...

>they meant pic related
Then why didn't they say that?
>not a high caliber
Muskets are higher caliber than just about any firearm available today

>Governments have never become tyranical
>My government loves me and would never do that, based trummpp

Americans having guns could be the only thing stopping complete international tyranny.
It cant happen everywhere BUT america because then americans would be awake to why they need their guns and will use them accordingly.
Guns were banned in many countries with orchestrated attacks.
>UK, school shooting, guns banned
>Australia, Port arthur massacre, guns banned
All of these happened in pretty quick succession and went very well, so then they tried Columbine and it didnt work.
So theyve been trying for two decades with school shootings and other attacks that would have never happened before the 90's.

Not a coincidence.

>founding fathers didn't know weapons would evolve

So?

>If they were alive today they would be disappointed in you conservashits

[Citation Needed]

The modern musket is a semi-auto AR15 that uses military quality ammunition. Level 3 body armor is standard loadout too, it's less than $500 for a carrier and plates

Be responsible, honorable and learn to defend yourself

when you win a civil war, you can define it however you feel.

No. They definitely meant high-capacity, full-auto murder machines, just like mine.

>Pistols have a lower capacity and smaller rounds

30 round glock stick mags are just as easy to come by as 30 round AR mags. 100 round drum mags for both pistols and ARs are also common.

>smaller rounds

It doesn't matter from close range whether I shoot you in the face and chest with an .223 or a 9mm. You'll be just as dead.

The reality is that all these leftist retards that have no idea what they are talking about are just pushing a narrative that they've been fed. For a soft target, up close, it doesn't matter if I'm using a 9mm, .7.62, .308 or a 50BMG, you'll still be dead. So why all the focus on .223 which constitutes a small fraction of all murders?

Taking away ARs/AKs would still leave handguns which are easier to acquire and easier to conceal. So a new assault weapons ban wont stop the school shooting. The reality is that elites fear the masses having access to a lightweight, relatively cheap platform with relatively cheap ammo, semi auto rifle that can defeat soft body armor. This isn't about he kids. It's about citizens fighting back from a distance.

Pistols are good self defense tools at close range. ARs/AKs are good offensive weapons at distance and close range. The elites can't have that. That's the real reason this specific narrative is being pushed.

*charges at you*

The second amendment has nothing to do with self defense. It’s for killing politicians and government mercenaries

this


the AR15 is the modern equivalent to a flintlock...

"arms".
Weapons included are
>bow and arrow
>crossbow
>halberd
>longsword
>zweihander
>spear
>gunpowder weapons

>Shall Not Be Infringed

Wrong, faggot!
In all fields.

At the time the constitution was founded the idea was that the american people would have the most effective and high tech weapons.

If anything they intended we have MORE fire power, not less.

"Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

not

"a well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, people have the right to bear dear hunting rifles and weapons not intended for warfare."

Civil War 2 NOW !!!

Day of the Rope for all politicians, liberals, and race traitors !!!

We will do it with our AR-15’s and you won’t stop us

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calling it a machine gun is a joke too though. its like a big revolver

Modern sporting rifles are some of the smallest caliber ever used.

And the Gatling Gun was just a big revolver with the inverse principle, that is having multiple barrels instead of multiple chambers.

The first ammendment doesn’t apply to digital communications.

*This ; If founding father's Spirit were alive today , they would be arming local militia's.
To round -up (((rats))) & and their bootlicking underlings !.... imho.

I see someone is NOT operating at the brain stem level.

If they meant MUSKET they would have said MUSKET.

You are not only an ignorant nigger but you are also a stupid faggy one.

> high caliber

You are either a troll or completely retarded.

Pic related. Round on the right is your "high caliber" baby killing fully semi automatic assault military rifle bullet compared to musket rounds and various bullets used during the time of the founding fathers.

They had repeating guns back then asshat

Gun's & Gold ,will " Not" be turned over willingly !
Nobody trusts these ; pig trough cunts .

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This is always the answer. Always retort with this answer in your life and memes.

Niggers often hunt in herds of 4 or more.

but they also had cannons and gatling guns back then...

>pistols are fine
kill way more people then scary salt rifles

And its over!

* Lewis and Clark expedition had a cannon mounted on a rowboat going up in Missouri into Mandan nation.

No, they meant firearms. If they meant a musket, they would have said musket you dumb shit. You think the founding fathers didn't know that there was a time before muskets? That they weren't aware of changing technologies? Please kys

The first amendment was written at a time when there were only printing presses so you have no right to speak out against the government anymore since you use the internet.

See how dumb you look? Shill.

Yeah, jesus was a hippie, thats why he brought a fucking whip to the money changers.

Luke 22:36
He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.

I'd probably rather have a big lump of iron pushed in rather than a smaller bullet that can fragment and can deviate course through my guts.

THE FOUNDERS MEANT WE CAN HAVE PRIVATE FRIGITES YOU COMMIE FUCK . FUC K UR MOTHER , PRIVATE CANNONS ,

Bill of needs

HOLY SHIT NIGGA THAT THOT WAS BTFO LIKE RUSSIANS IN FINLAND

I think they would be more upset about the amount of taxes we pay.

* The religious aspects line up with end of day prophecies a bit spooky .
Blood & Soil , no-knee bending to "Molock".

This

jmw.typepad.com/political_warfare/2008/01/private-ships-of-war-and-the-american-maritime-tradition.html

YOU THINK I CANT HAVE GAUSS CANNONS ?? THINK AGAIN.

Actually it was about having the same firepower as the government.
Which we currently do not have.

Anti 2A thread #97

The Gatling gun was the concept for the modern mini-gun as well as the 20 MM Vulcan cannon. The advantage of multiple barrels was the distribution of heat, it was not accumulated in a single bore.

Out- West "Mark Twain", was a journalist in the Sierra Nevada and one of the best.
(((The message))) wasn't sent down from the top there was more Independence back in the 1800s with mom & papa printing presses.

Try to take it and I'll show you why I need it.

Honestly you shills are gunna piss me off so much i might just pick up a fucking rifle illegally and gun some cunts down.

On the day of the rop just know that we are not going to be nice, i literally fantasise about the amount of pain i would put you through before allowing you to die.Fingernails,teeth, kneecaps, eyballs. Id start with all the shit that doesnt cause massive blood loss. Then I mght move onto tearing muscles, and finish off my breaking your spin and leaving you to starve/dehydrate.

NRA going down
independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/fbi-russia-nra-donald-trump-campaign-election-investigation-mueller-banker-money-a8225581.html

Checkmate.

This. Fucking this

Your argument is infantile. To follow your logic, you would not be allowed opinions or means to communicate them past the primitive printing presses of the day.

br00tal post mate

What the fuck.... a leaf fucking gets it.

Then why does it say arms and not musket? They meant the people need to be armed for war dumbass