Boruto

I'm NOTHING like my father!

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Your father actually achieved his dreams.

I wish he truly becomes his own character like he advertises himself to be in the anime. The kid needs to realize Sasuke is a failure of a human being and no one should aspire to be like him.

Why does he have such terrible daddy issues?

Was Naruto really THAT bad of a dad?

i not sure but im just uploading.

you really aren't

he was there for like the first 10 years of his kids' lives then the last two years he's been ninja president and bort isn't even satisfied when his dad sends a shadow clone out to spar with him in the mornings even though it's practically the same thing, good enough to fight a kage, good enough to play tag with bort

>Can make his near infinite clones do all the paperwork
>Can hangout with family and play with son due to this
>Decides to say fuck that I want to do this paperwork
>Or he could delegate tasks like a real leader instead of trying to run a country by himself like a fool
I'd be pissed to.

he is stupid. Everyone else is stupid for not realizing he is stupid and didn't think of it.

remember in gaiden when he had a shadow clone out to spar with bort around the village? bort just complains because it's a shadow clone, if individual shadow clones are good enough to be decisive factors in a war then i think they're good enough for fuckaround times with his kids.

we don't even know how much he delegates to shikamaru, and how much shikamaru then delegates to others, we've already seen shizune, udon, and moegi hanging around the office. i really doubt shikamaru just does nothing all day

It's time. Post lewd Himawaris.

At least Boruto's dad is there.

Naruto literally had no family. Boruto is just being an entitled retard.

He worked his whole life for that position, so he doesn't want to disrespect the office by using shadow clones to do the paperwork and run the village.

Kishimoto self inserts as Naruto and he had problems with his children while he was making the manga.

Also Naruto doesn't really know how to be a dad, since he didn't have one.

Closest I've got.

he's a good dad. just really bad, now that he has the job, of balancing the "everyone in the village is your family when you're hokage" dogma he was raised with versus his personal reality of "actually wait no my own family is way more important than the rest of these fuckers". nearly agrees to compromise his commitment to the hokage position to bort in the bort movie before bort cuts him off and just asks for war stories instead

Sending a clone for personal time could be seen as a bit disingenuous especially to someone who spends a lot of time talking to his own clones.

He literally should not have any paperwork with the number of clones he can make. That should be done in less than a hour, tops.

Its insincere to send a clone to hangout with your family when you can do it yourself. Especially when all you're doing is filling out paperwork you should logically have done.

>Why should I have to hang out with a clone? Why doesn't he want to see me in person? Is his paperwork more important than me? Why not have the clone do that while we hangout for a little bit?

It's not even disrespectful. It's just pure efficiency. He already uses clones to do manual labor around the village. Why not spare a few of them to sign documents?

Shadow clones can only do so much. If Naruto used 100 clones to do his work he would get 100x the stress of an already stressful job.

okay, let's assume he made a thousand shadow clones, or a few hundred, just however much he needs so each clone only has a workload of one document to read and sign. he's not personally the consciousness handling any document but the one he's doing. what if it poofs, then whoops he's super dumb and the clones have signed off on a shit ton of things he regrets and has to do over anyway? it's not like every clone is being made to go off and shove a rasengan into someone's face or serve a simple purpose like being a link in a chain. it's like when he developed rasenshuriken and a number of the clones sperged out and starting going kyuubi. inevitably the clones are gonna make decisions he doesn't agree with once they transmit their experience into his head

i agree he should probably make a couple, enough that he can confer with himself easily as they all work together. like how he did his sage training, something manageable that speeds it up

>his dad sends a shadow clone out to spar with him in the mornings
That doesn't even happen. Boruto has to paint the hokage mountain just for a clone to stend time with him, but naruto actually tries to beat him up and shikamaru doesn't even allow boruto to spend time with a fucking clone.

>makes tons of clones in the village even to simply help a woman holding her bags
>son isn't allowed to spend time with one of your clone

>makes clones to do stupid things like holdings bags so he's exhausted
>send a clone to his daughter's birthday and drops the cake because of fatigue he could have easily avoided.

>previously missed son's birthday for paperwork, didn't bother to send clones

>used to disrespect the third and tsunade all the time
>son isn't allowed to call him dad at his office

if naruto was legitimately trying to beat his son up do you think he would have allowed himself to be blocked and gone off to play hide and go seek?

Boruto and Naruto were not sparing. Boruto painted his face so naruto would send a clone to chace him, that's in gaiden, not the anime.
Boruto says "it's just a clone" because shikamaru said that naruto was too busy deal with boruto. But shikamaru doen't care and still doesn't allow boruto to stay with a clone

But he's not, that's the whole issue. Being alive is not the same as being present as Sarada can tell you.

man there is a difference between your dad not being there for your entire life and your dad ever since he became president being in an office and you know where he is. i understand to a kid how that can seem like neglect but jeez after bad family behavior like itachi and obito slaughtering their entire family i just can't see naruto and family's growing pains and adjustment period as all that bad

>inevitably the clones are gonna make decisions he doesn't agree with once they transmit their experience into his head
No they won't, because they're literally him. They make the decisions he would make.

At worst he would feel regret over doing something stupid/wrong.

It is honestly sad seeing how the characters turned out after the main Naruto story. Gai is crippled with a permanently broken leg, Lee is forvever alone, Naruto is a pathetic sleep-deprived wageslave and manual laborer instead of being Ronald Reagan 2.0, Shikamaru is stuck with Temari who turns out to be an even bigger bitch than his mother ever was, Sasuke escaped his well-deserved punishment of being a settled husband to Sakura and a good father to Sarada and nobody is questioning it, and everybody else is probably out of work and depressed due to peace and being forcefully denied from attaining perfect happiness

Why are will still getting fuck retarded comments like these when in the fucking anime we've see Naruto spend time with his kids and Boruto is still acting like a faggot? The movie is pretty much non-canon at this point due to the amount of retcons the anime and manga has made with the addition of new characters and changing personalities of others (notable Sarada). Better yet why are we still getting people defending that faggot Bort?

The difference is entirely one of timespan and therefore irrelevant. If Sauce came back home and chilled with his daughter for ten years while Naruto continued to be a workaholic it would amount to the same difference.

Dying in combat gives you an excuse for parental absence. Being stuck at the office with paperwork despite your main skill being duplication does not.

>in the fucking anime
Because it's not fucking canon.

>The movie is pretty much non-canon at this point due to the amount of retcons the anime and manga has made with the addition of new characters and changing personalities of others (notable Sarada).
not until the rehash or a conflicting (in terms of time) event occurs. That hasn't happened yet.

Anime is rather inconsistent on that.

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there's a scene early in bort when he starts arguing with one of his shadow clones. there's a canon scene sometime near the pain arc in naruto when he's playing cards with his shadow clones and they start arguing with each other. a fragment of your chakra, even starting with the same memories and experience as you, can still come to different conclusions and hold different opinions, coming back to the main body and

what does the anime have to do with it. are you really equating naruto being there for the formative years of his kids' lives and fucking up pretty but still being ostensibly within reach to sasuke being a deadbeat dad and never seeing his daughter? really?

>play hide and go seek
You realise that was just an excuse of boruto's so he wouldn't admit his dad was after him?
Naruto punched boruto in the face, intentionally, without knowing it was a clone.
And regardless, in the end, boruto wasn't allowed to just be with a clone. Shikamaru stoped him for no reason and naruto surely didn't have anything against that.
So naruto would rather send his clone do worthless shit like holding bags than spending time with his son. Shikamaru allows naruto to do stupid shit with his clones but can't let boruto "play" with his father.

Naruto is doing it wrong, even if he has good intensions is doesn't justify the way he's handling things. He's the grown man in this situation but he can't find a better way to use is clones

Blame Kishimoto's writing. The anime has done nothing but show Naruto there for his kids despite his exhaustion and only serves to make Boruto look like a brat its going to look even worse if they adapt the movies and Boruto fucking cheats like a bitch against his FUCKING BEST FRIEND Shikadai

>Because it's not fucking canon.
Bort is just like dragonball super, the anime is canon and the manga is retconed to compensate.

It really hasn't

>Why does he have such terrible daddy issues?
Rebellious age, famous dad that everyone compares him to which dwarfs his own feats to nothingness at all times no matter how talented he is, cannot establish himself since he's always compared to dad, wants to break away, dad is always busy lately at an important time in his life which causes him to act out
>Was Naruto really THAT bad of a dad?
No, you might be retarded if you think their spat is anything that serious. Its mostly just that they're very awkward around each other, and both act on it in their own ways. They both make a lot of mistakes around each other, but it can be solved in a day or two as shown in the movie.

Boruto's acting out is meant to be a normal childhood thing. You can call it first world problems, but everything he's doing is fairly normal for a kid. They don't understand each other and there's a lot of friction, he's acting out, but he's honestly not that different from Naruto as a child.

But if you tell him this he'd just get angry for obvious reasons.

It really has.

>if individual shadow clones are good enough to be decisive factors in a war then i think they're good enough for fuckaround times with his kids.
This is kinda dumb logic. "Clones can fight super good, so that entirely correlates to it being just as good for spending time with your family", we saw why that reasoning was flawed at Himawari's birthday party.

Has nothing to do with each other, Bortuo took the shadow clone thing personally because its kinda like your dad making you play with his Butler rather than doing it directly. Its impersonal even if its not actually that big of a different. Its the same reason he got angry that Naruto sent a clone to his daughter's birthday. Its not the same.

>boruto is the same in both version of the movie. His issues are the same and if you actually think the anime takes other the manga in term of canon then you really are an idiot, as the boruto manga remains credited as the original source.

each shadow clone is a new life and you are actively committing murder every time you dispel them to take their energy and raw information back in. how many of his children has naruto murdered

>he's acting out, but he's honestly not that different from Naruto as a child.
Naruto was a fucking orphan who the villain hated for merely existing and his pranks were a means to get people to notice him. Boruto is a rich kid and the son of the 7th hokage with friends and people who love him...but is acting out because daddy has to work to provide for him.

This. All of these criticism about Naruto comes from the movie. SP retconned some parts of Gaiden, so I am expecting them to clean Kishi's mess in the movie. I personally would like them to redo all the movie from the scratch and remove the stupid parts like Naruto ruining Himawari's birthday and the cheating stuff. It's completely unnecesary. If they want to do character development for Boruto and to improve his relationship with Naruto, there are much better ways to do it. Kishi's autism needs to dissapear from this series already.

Shikamaru isn't his best friend though.

You assume that is nardo, but what it if is hentai transforming/cloning into nardo?

circumstances are different but in the end just acting out to be acknowledged. for bort not so much the entire village but just one guy though. same motivation, very different degrees

naruto is gay

gay for that sardo pussy

what's with the intense hatred of original authors of these zombie continuations

with DBS it's people hating on toriyama, here it's people hating on kishimoto. they're still responsible for all of the good portions of the series you remembered, admittedly along with all the terrible shit

>His issues are the same
That's the fucking problem dumbass. We've shown Naruto being a good father in the anime so what reason is there for Boruto to act out other than being a spoiled brat.
> if you actually think the anime takes other the manga in term of canon then you really are an idiot, as the boruto manga remains credited as the original source.
What the fuck are you talking about? The anime takes precedence over both since it actually expands on shit the manga failed to do and is canon to the source of material the movie at this point is irrelevant.

>Shikamaru
Shikidai dumbass

Its also established that Naruto being constantly absent or returning home just to pass out as the norm.

naruto has a second family.
It explains everything.

Of fucking course the anime only shows the rare times when naruto comes back but every characters in the uzumaki familly already mentionned he's not here most of the times to the point naruto finally comming home to eat his treated as a big thing. Turns out he doesn't even stay.

Who would have thought that the best Naruto pairing would end up being Naruto himself and his best friend's daughter

i mean you're literally placing your hopes and dreams for improvement of this series on the fucking people responsible for 100% of shippuden filler

Its really not.

talk to me once the anime gets to where the mango is. You'll start seeing more blatant retcons.

>rare times
They don't treat it as a special occasion of that he's never there due to work.

Shikadai still isn't his best friend

Dragon ball super is the exact opposite, faggot.

>Toriyama looks over and corrects Toyo's manga
>Only gives a rough script to Toei

It's easy to tell which of those is canon.

Bort is just a retard. If we bothered to learn sealing jutsu, then the criticisms against using the ninja tool would be as legitimate as saying "lameo faggot, you didn't forge your own kunai. BANNED".

Nothing is retconned and nothing's changed. Naruto comes home sometimes, but this changes really nothing about Boruto's behavior. Its dumb if you think the entire drama hinged on "It only counts if Naruto is literally never there at all"

Naruto is there occasionally its not like he's negligent, but Boruto still has a lot of friction with him. Wanting attention, yet also not wanting attention, being compared to him, being proud of him but also annoyed, trying to be himself in a village where everyone knows him as Naruto's fuck up son, dad flakes out on important events a lot even if he took you out for ramen once.

Naruto as well also has friction with Boruto; he thinks his son has more in common with Sasuke than him, kid is talented, kid makes friends easily, kid is a natural genius, Naruto never had parents growing up so he flat out admits he never knows what to say to him, so sometimes he kinda avoids him or just awkwardly tries to strike some conversation. He doesn't know how to relate to him since they're kinda different, much like Hank Hill. He's trying at the end of the day, but he's not meant to be perfect, and he's messed up in a bad way a few times. Being a parent ain't easy for him at times for obvious reasons.

At the end of the movie they both come to understand each other a bit more, due to Sasuke ironically.

Explain why the mango retcons itself to realign with the anime.

if he wanted to use the ninja tool, he should have hid it better and found a way around the byakugan. its use was explicitly against the rules, just like cheating was at the first chunin's exam written portion. bort got caught, if he hadn't gotten caught nardo would have just shrugged and figured that the jutsu konohamaru had been teaching him were pretty good

Kishi had good ideas, but he was only one person. One person with too much power who was progressively losing interest in the series and getting short on ideas. Kishi's legacy is a world with potential, but the series needs a breath of fresh air. SP are the people who know Naruto the most, so I can only trust them to make this series work and still keep the same Naruto feel.

>Wanted to go traveling on the mission with Sasuke

Borotu was a mistake they should have made it about 200+ years into the future after Naruto becomes Hokage
>Low acceptable power levels(Naruto and Sasuke are dead of old age)
>No Indra and Asura Avatars bullshit

And maybe make the MC Naruto's Grand-Grandson or something...
Prove me wrong
Protip: you can't

Bort is the father and had orochimango transplant sharingan at birth. Ergo vision problems.

Seems to me that while boruto seems to throw a fit a lot, he's only playing it up so his point is made. He's upset that his dad's attention is being driven away from his family, seeing his mom sitting there looking lonely makes him go "fuck, why isn't dad here?" and just acts out. Writers doesn't seem to dwell on making Naruto look that bad though, seems like they're really just saying "take our word for it, Naruto is making his family feel lonely". Also doesn't seem like they'll pile onto the fact that people only look at boruto as the president's kid anymore. Think we'll be fleshing out everyone else from now on.

the indra and asura transmigrants being dead wouldn't have eliminated giant battle avatars

They're saving that for the "A Ninja's Legacy" OVA

Learn the definition of a retcon and then we'll talk.
Regardless the anime changing things from the manga doesn't mean shit. It's like saying the naruto anime is canon just because they made an arc for utakata and added/changed stuff from the manga.
You know, it the anime was actually prevalent, characters other than anime only would be allowed to develop outside of their manga selves, yet they can't. They have to keep the status quo, they can't go against the manga's story because that's the main story. Anime will stay behind it for the most part, yamashita actually said it. The pre-movie stuff with take most part of the anime.
You're not missing shit if you don't watch the anime. The manga is still the same and stand on his own.

I shouldn't have to point this out, but he was meant to get caught, for the sake of the themes of the story. No matter how it was going to go, that was something that was going to happen.

>Boruto cheating on a vidya game early on in the story.
>Doesn't want to rely on the cheat device, but wants desperately to impress his dad, so he keeps falling into the same traps. Only uses it the first time because he has to, but each subsequent time it gets easier. Always keeps "Using a calculator on his math test even when its forbidden, because he wants that high grade to impress dad who's paying attention to him at the moment"
>When push comes to shove he realizes he hasn't learned shit on his own because he kept relying on the device
>Sasuke tells him to believe in himself and that he's talented
>Finally Boruto doesn't rely on the cheat device, and uses his own skills even if they're not as impressive looking, and saves the day.
>Story ends with Boruto playing the game again, but without the using cheats this time.

The story wasn't going to have him avoid being caught, nor was the lesson of the story that he should avoid it better. The lesson was believe in yourself or some shit, and don't take the easy way in life, you learn more.

chicken and the quantum egg.

Glad we settled that.

ironically just spamming rasengan would probably have earned his dad's attention way more than all that other shit

>Was Naruto really THAT bad of a dad?
Depends on whether Kishi or SP are the ones doing the writing.

What you said is not wrong, but has nothing to do with my statement (I wrote the first post you linked). What I am criticizing is not their relationship, but the retarded events of the movie. The anime is doing a much better work to portray their relationship, and we know they have things they disagree about each other, but they still don't have to act like complete idiots make us understand their family circumstances. There are much better ways to develop their strained family relations than the way Kishi did it in the movie.

Can notice what you can't see.

You are right. I cannot. The Naruto continuation should of have been your idea or a Seinfeldian comedy SOL featuring the original New Gen, no parent drama whatsoever

>You know, it the anime was actually prevalent, characters other than anime only would be allowed to develop outside of their manga selves, yet they can't.
You mean like Mitsuki? Because no other media has developed Mitsuki like the anime did (or more like only the anime and a bit of his Gaiden have developed Mitsuki), and Mitsuki is definitely not an anime-only character. Also, your anime only term is invalid because of the novels.
>You're not missing shit if you don't watch the anime. The manga is still the same and stand on his own.
You are missing literally everything if you don't watch the anime. The Boruto manga barely has any characterization for Boruto, and everyone else is an extra with little to no personality, and we don't know anything about them.

>Writers doesn't seem to dwell on making Naruto look that bad though, seems like they're really just saying "take our word for it, Naruto is making his family feel lonely".

Because he's not a shitty guy, he is trying, he's not meant to look bad persay. He does talk things over with Hinata at night sometimes when he gets home late, but Boruto isn't there to see that. He only sees his dad not there for important moments at times and it builds up for him. Boruto isn't awake when Naruto gets home at times. Its not meant to portray one of them as wrong exactly. Or at least they're both kinda wrong in the end. Naruto fucked up overreaching himself making the village his family, and skipping out on his real family at a poor time. While Boruto cheated on a test for attention and was caught.

Himawari is sad at times but she tries to keep it inside so far, while Boruto is tsundere and does want his dad to be there for him more but can't admit it, so he says he's just sad he's not here for Himawari and mom. Its him as well that wants dad at home a bit more, instead of always being asleep when he gets home and him being gone by the time he wakes up.

Fuck, the stimulus for Boruto deciding he had to stay in the chuunin exams for as long as possible even if he had to cheat was Naruto just sending him an e-mail, trying to kinda keep in touch more. That's all Boruto really needed at times, and he was happy about it even if he says the opposite. I think it was Shikamaru who told Naruto he should send an e-mail if he can't say things to Boruto directly that well.

Just because Naruto and Sasuke made up doesn't mean Indra is going to stop trying to reincarnate.

>Indra's Arrow and Six Paths: Rasenshuriken from the Asura Avatar blow each other up, literally tears apart the battle avatars
>Hashirama and Madara statues are blown apart
>Last two transmigrants make up and are actively cooperating
I know technically that might not satisfy a vengeful ghost but it sure looks like it's done, especially without black zetsu there to stoke the flames anymore

you act like we don't already know that Boruto realizes he is being a huge fag at the end of the movie
he even defends Naruto when the damiyo's kid is bitching

Can you blame him? Early childhood must have been bliss with Nardo and Hinata as parents

We were getting that with the ghost arc. Too bad stupid fags like sawyer think of that as a lesser thing because narutards think anything written by Kishimoto is gold.

GILF

who's sawyer

Its just a phase

Nah, the Nue arc felt like more just regular SOL, and actually had overarching plot elements. Seinfeidian SOL is just random, and absurdist. No plot at all

I think the fact that Boruto is so upset that Naruto isn't around as much is a testament of how good of a father he was before he decided to become a pencil-pushing zombie.

When will the clones rebel?

Can shadowclones impregnate someone ?

They did in that one filler. There was a girly clone and Naruto got upset at its existence.

Does the cum stays when shadow clone is dispelled?

>Can shadowclones impregnate someone ?
I'd imagine the sperm along with the DNA, chromosome, and anything else that sperm pass down would disappear if it somehow made it past the 9 month cycle and dispersed. You could end up with a really really deformed messed up human child.

>Does the cum stays when shadow clone is dispelled?
Do clothes, blood, and sweat stay when a clone is dispelled?

Fucker should be happy.

Maybe that clone was the spiritual successor of Dat Clone. The one that was the MVP of the entire war.