Will Poland and Russia ever get along? If they did...

Will Poland and Russia ever get along? If they did, they could form the world's most powerful Slavic block of nations and lead the world in the 22nd century.

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>Will Poland and Russia ever get along?
Of course, after the ruling class and the MSM that it controls decides that it wants to "get along with Russia" instead of being a US / western puppet state hosting all kinds of provocative US military installations. This won't happen any time soon, as Polands and west's interests align a bit (both want Ukraine being outside of Moscow's gravity, it being the market for their goods, Poland wants cheap labor, etc.).

It's a simple thing to realize. Many people in the EU, especially in Poland, are being brainwashed about Russia, they hide the true story with Crimea, etc.

Read the history instead of making stupid threads on Sup Forums.

You slavshit snowniggers can't exist
>gas the lot of you
Together with jewish overlords

oh, yeah, so its better to be a russian puppet lel

You mean the selective history that you are being fed to since childhood, because if the history mattered rather than any current issues then how can Japan be a US ally? Can can Russia have any sort of good relations with Germany after Germany and "the collective Europe united by Germany" has done so much damage to USSR / Russia?

I guess it sucks to realize just how dumb you truly are and how you are being played by the ruling classes.

fpbp.

Though It will never be "Good" it will be neutral-friendly at most, nothing more.

only if we get rid of our subhumans and you get rid of yours.

You don't have to be anyone's puppet. Take a look at Finland or Austria, who are not in NATO and have been next to USSR's military machine during Cold War and didn't have and don't have issues.

It should all depend on country's interests. I guess the 10 billion dollars that the EU has been giving to Poland every year for years far outweighs what Russia would offer (e.g. gas discount).

Then we have countries like Portugal, Bulgaria, and if you seriously think they are threatened by Russia there somehow rather than it's all about geopolitics, you basically have no critical thinking skills whatsoever.

Who cares. In the current geopolitical state you have to be at least economically strong. Look at Switzerland. Not with USA, not with Russia, not even with Germany, but still they can shit on everyone. Poland doesn't have the best economy due yo all the social bullshit programs. I'd rather have american soldiers here than the soldiers from a country with not a single moment of their history when they were decent people

Selective history... really? Russia won the war, the people getting screwed by the history books are the Germans.

As for Japan and Germany being allies to the US, when did the US ever commit such atrocities as the axis powers or Russia? The US dropped firebombs and two nukes, they rounded up some Japanese citizens in camps, plus the standard belle se ipsum alet. Japan committed the worst atrocities of any nation during the war, with Germany and Russia being a close second, where the USSR killed more people through holodomors/executions after the war ended.

If anything, the US should be apprehensive to have such barbarians as the Japanese for allies. They'd have an argument if it weren't for their own conduct in Japan. All things considered, the gooks got a fantastic deal. With the patronage of Uncle Sam they got to eclipse Russia in terms of gross GDP for christs sake, that tiny island.

Poland and Russia will never be friends. China and Japan will never trust each other to die properly. The EU will always face off against Russia on the Ukraine problem on the grand chessboard. Deal with it hohol.

I have no doubts that Polish like to suck US dick, sort of like Ukrainians, because of how rich they are and because probably every single pole's dream is to move there and become a US citizen. That's why Poland (and this country) hosted secret CIA torture prisons. That's why Poland supported the war in Iraq (and I guess sent soldiers) under completely false pretext. Poland was promised stuff like visa-free regime in exchange for that, but got nothing.

Or maybe you have a fetish of becoming a target for Russia's nukes because you host dangerous US installations such as the missile defense shield, whose missiles can easily be replaced with offensive mid-range nukes targeting Russia. Germans, Swedish, Finland would never do such such a move without citizen's protests. With Poland, they are dumb easily brainwashed sheep and will do everything for a US dick :)

No. Because even if everything went right, the US alone can take on the entire planet to a stand still. Taking on a couple countries would result in a utter defeat.

Jaja se robisz?

> when did the US ever commit such atrocities as the axis powers or Russia?
> insert any of the following
> middle east country
> vietnam
> any country USA was in war after WW2

finland and austria is not highway from rimland to heartland and the other way like polish territory
they ate in totally different situation

No. The Great Book of Grudges remains full.

The current plan is to continue strengthening the V4, work towards Intermarium, work on bringing Belarus to the west and slowely but surely bite into Russia economically, since it's declining rapidly and will soon be ripe for the taking. We can take the western part (maybe restore Muscovia as a country?) and the Chinese can keep the east.

>Britain
>Telling other countries that they are jewish puppets.

we are to weak to be their direct rival that actually threatens them.

we are to strong for them to subdue us and make us their satellite state

And with russia is either this or that if you are in their area of influence.

Imagine that Carthage wasn't completely destroyed by Rome, but instead kept returning every time the Romans had some sort of trouble. No longer strong enough to challenge them like in the past, they'd at least run interference with whatever their enemies planned. Neither side would ever think about getting along with each other, as the conqueror would always think about ending this relentless annoyance, while the weaker side would try to do their best to survive.

Also read berdyaev.com/berdiaev/berd_lib/1914_178.html

the depths to which no one here gives a shit about poland could crush a blue whale under the force of its gravity

>Look at Switzerland. Not with USA, not with Russia, not even with Germany, but still they can shit on everyone.

Total bullshit.
We're an EU/German colony.

>Selective history... really? Russia won the war, the people getting screwed by the history books are the Germans.
You don't realize how much it cost USSR to win that war: destroyed European part, 30 million people. And it's Germans that suffered, who went deep into USSR?

But when I'm talking about selective history, I'm talking about Poland probably not talking in schools about things like:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camps_for_Russian_prisoners_and_internees_in_Poland_(1919–24)
at all when screaming "muh Katyn".

Or that Poland together with Germany invaded its southern neighbor. Or that it was thanks to USSR that you got the northern territories from Germany. Or that USSR unilaterally withdrew from Poland when USSR still existed and denounced the Warsaw pact (it would be akin to US withdrawing bases from, say, Germany).

Or that the Warsaw pact was created after the NATO was formed. Or that other parties were purged in Poland after the war, because it was a USSR's answer to US doing the same thing in France and elsewhere.

But it looks like all the poles are aware of are Katyn massacre and that the history started after WW2 when Germany and USSR invaded Poland. They probable have no clue about how their country was even formed again in the beginning of 20th century during Russia's civil war. Or that the newly formed Poland might have grabbed land from Belarus / Ukraine together with the locals (that could have been forced to leave) that people like Stalin considered to be theirs.

Either way, the red pill here is that history is being used in current politics. It has everything to do with the needed opinion about X country. Once this opinion is formed, the ruling class can do any sort of provocative and dangerous moves against X country.

Speak for yourself my butt slut

I wish we had better relations with our Russian bros.

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Are you one of those Russians in Visaginas who are still salty about the EU shutting down your Chernobyl-style Soviet nuclear plant?

he actually got good arguments
It wouldn't be that far fetched, as russians feel like they are as much victims of comunism as we are, and they want to leave it behind, there is a ground to work on.
> inb4 russian fag
There are no benefits from being angry at them for all of time + good relations with russia = cheaper gas.

>implying they aren't getting along
Isn't it the longest time poland and russia haven't fought a war between themselves.

No? But why would you think it was only Russians that are salty?
There was a referendum, where almost half the country participated and 91% said they wanted it running:
lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendumas_dėl_Ignalinos_atominės_elektrinės_darbo_pratęsimo

Of course, the ruling class said "fuck these people".

>good relations with russia = cheaper gas.
The Russians don't have allies, they have vasal states that they invade when they don't follow their directions (GDR 1953, Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia 1968, Ukraine 2014).
Also, cheaper gas does not compensate for being forced to adopt Russia's economic model (Kleptocracy, huge and inefficient state-owned companies, massive bureaucracy, massive protectionism, no rule of law).
So you're either a successful market economy or a Russian "ally", they can't let you be both.

That's also why they basically have no allies.

What is geopolitics? What is economics? What is building society? Stupid fools resists whats good for them.
One day when you grow up you realize that your comment was infantile.

Our lack of love for Russia is not a result of european propaganda.
Being their war target twice in one century, where both times they went to either denying the war's existance or straight out blaming Poland for it tends to make some bad blood between us.
You're a small country, the only way for you to exist is in someone's influence zone.
For us, it's either 90% autonomy under america with periods of dicksucking, or KGB, NKVD, Red Army, Shooting down planes.

I just want you to understand our point of view, it's my favour to you because you seem biased as fuck towards russia and not really wanting to discuss.

Untermensch, speak human or get another ban

>Of course, the ruling class said "fuck these people".

EU law doesn't allow nuclear reactors that have no containments.
They had to chose between EU membership and keeping the thing running.

Oy wey

> muhameds rape baby speaking

Russians dont care about existance of poland, they know only that poles want to smuggle apples to russia.

Poles hate russians without reason

Ignore that immature brat

We have got an interesting thread going on
Don't let him derail it

> Poles hate russians without reason
you win OVER 9000 internets
Because of you my sides traveled through time and brought this meme from the past long forgotten

As the Zionist sword gets closer to the throat and the retarded "Ride the back to the Zionist lion" game of PiS party goes wrong (gezz who would have guessed?) the Poles will have to swallow the frog and their pride a little bit and make friends with Russia. There is a common "Slavic thing" that they share so the potential is there.

The Baltics no because over there anti-Russianism is literally a mental illness.

Ye I know, the same brittard is in 90% of threads including Poland, don't really know what's his deal tho.

look there

>checked
sadly it's not how any of the slavic relations besides russia-serbia work

>Poles hate russians without reason

They hate Russians because they invaded Poland countless times.

russians economic model is suitable for level of capital accumulation by russians in nothern eurasia

profit and rentability are 4x higher than in EU.

when people in big cities will accumulate more wealth inefficiency will be reduced, it is actually reducing every year. inefficiency exists as a last remnant of USSR

protectionism is very very good and state owned companies in certain sectors are not a bad thing.it is a bad idea to allow private companies to operate nuclear power plants, build nukes or to operate one of the largest railroads with access to eurasian resources. LOL.

>the invasion meme
'tis a shame I can't upload the same picture twice

>The Baltics no because over there anti-Russianism is literally a mental illness.

A Balt would have to be mentally ill NOT to hate Russians.

Calm down Satan, we don't want any of this shit

Russia would get along with Poland if it wasn't run by Jews and Mongols.

The people have much in common.

it is because poles invaded russia principalities during mongol yoke

russia settled everything with poles after ww2

after ww2 russian and polish Lebensraums were fixed to pre-mongol border. poles were resettled to their historical lands in west that were taken from western slavs by germans, western ukrainian peasants received back their historical lands.

of course poles are stupid and they can make shit, then russians will be forced to kill them again

away with you, shill

>Will Poland and Russia ever get along?
unlikely. they are locked in a millennium-long fight to decide who's going to be top slav.

with what part do you disagree? can you specify the reason of your butthurt

>Russia would get along with Poland if it wasn't run by Jews and Mongols.
>The people have much in common
Slavshits
Will they pleasure own selves analy?
>yes!

ad hominem and a strawman
nice

You can't be a friend to a russian or german - the will betray you an try to steal your land. Then, they will claim it was their ancestral land. It's only business with them and nothing more.

you made a short butthurting comment

did you want to say something except bunch of unlogical emotions? something like counterargument etc

It's true. Every time I talk with Russians on-line it's constant shit flinging. Every time I meet an actual Russian in real life we turn out to be bros.

> they could form block of nations
because all nations must unite into ridiculously big fucking reich and lose their local identity.

>tfw me and my pals shittalk and bully every single German we find in an online game
>tfw we also hate them IRL
Patrician choice
Patrician mentality