Reminder that if you disagree with these political statements, you are immoral

>the workers should own the means of production
>society should be stateless, classless, moneyless

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You fogot "OP is a fag"

>communists will unironically defend this

There's absolutely nothing wrong with not caring about morals

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BRRRAAAAAP....Excuse me. Please gib me all your money bourgeois.

>Time passes

On no, where food D:

>if jews were to stop doing things that get them money

>memeflag
>utopia fantasyland ideals

Reminder that if you agree with these political statements, you are retarded.

but i do own the means of production. I earn shares of my company each day I work.
I have the option to buy any public company I want, and benefit from my work

ITT: retarded brapitalists once again show their political ignorance. Sad!

>flag
>OP thinks the USSR was real communism

some people have real money

That's not communism mate, that's anarchoprimitivism.

Mate! Watch out! You're shilling for the wrong ideology!

with no mechanism to transfer value, there can be no economy. with no trade, everyone is limited to hunting and gathering

Marxist advocating for his own retarded brand of objective morality.

You don't know anything about running a company
>means of production

>stateless, classless, moneyless
Congratulations, Communism would work in a rural village with no more then 100 people, but they were living like that long before Communism became an ideology. Get a job faggot

Reminder that if you agree with this political statement, you are an idiot.
>communism will work this time

It will never work because you will never successfully defy natural laws and order.

Morality does not objectively exist, therefore I can claim that you are immoral for believing them.

Money is a commodity required in any complex society. So says all civilizations that have existed beyond tribal.

Classes are a natural phenomena in multiple species of animal.

You're a piece of shit pleb. Get over it, faggot, and move on to being a productive pleb so you can maybe not be one day.

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It's like Australia has reached a whole new level of shitposting.

Morality is a social construct and you are not the objective arbiter of it.
My moral system places the survival of my own people as the highest standard. I don't give jack shit about your morals.

At least you've managed to archive moneyless society.

Not even close to true. Primitive man had hierarchy and capitalist competition over women, tools, food, etc. They just lacked a form of currency. Who the fuck needs currency when there are only a few commodities and almost all of them you can produce yourself?

The communist mongloid is shitposting the same garbage in four different threads right now.

Assuming you're not trolling...you need to read this and put an end to your delusion

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get fucked

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Orwell was a socialist, though...

kek. took me a minute to get this.

Reminder that if you disagree with this statement you are a fucking idiot:
>People are equal

I don't get it, so you hate jews and the 1% globalists, but aren't bold enough to declare war on them due to being controlled by the left?

>disagree
agree*

>that "rebuttal"
>dude we still work fo u n sheeit we gonna steal ur shit now

Do not reply to troll threads.
Report them

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That doesn't prove anything though. Of course people from hundreds of years ago were able to survive without currency, but that isn't the case today. There's way too many people for a socialist style state to exist since resources are finite and will run out eventually. Trading goods for other goods is just wishful thinking

That's a nice argument that you don't have there. Everyone in that company just lost their job

Would you rather live in North or South Korea?
Would you rather live in Venezuela or Argentina?
Would you rather live in China or Japan?
Would you have rather lived in East or West Germany?
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being a commie is immoral
you godless non-people

The left can’t me-

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This guy gets it.

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I agree with you, I was just explaining why currency wasn't even necessary way back then and is an extremely flawed argument for communism.

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Morality is a human condition and should have no bearing on Politics

>start company
>make a bunch of money
>pay someone else to do your work while you still make money, because you own everything
yeah, why should the person who had the idea and did all the hard work to make it successful get all the money

>the workers should own the means of production

How does this even work?

I apply to work at a company, and then I got to invest $20k of my own money to purchase my share of the business?

Who the fucks wants to do that? The whole point of being a regular employee is you just collect your paycheck and go on your way. The reward is lower, but the risk is also lower and you don't need to have any skin in the game.

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Reminder that if you actually think the natural order is like this, and that this is sustainable you are fucking brainwashed beyond hope and should KYS. Sage

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Oh yes...very good!....very sloppy and wet my dear....hmmmmm...is that a drop of nugget I see on the rim?

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SLIDE BITCHES

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These are valid points he is making.

>communist
>appealing to morality
Hahaha hahaha!

>stateless
OP is afraid of roads. Go be lolbertarian somewhere else.

Communist don't understand risk or investment. They only see the fruits without the tree and demand it all. Alternatively they literally never see the overwhelming number of failed businesses, which far out number successful ones.

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Natural laws as codified in the holy gospel of Mises.org?

I can agree that society is certainly classless.

Your problem is that you think you're designing a perfect world and you can't see that we already a world to live in.

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What if I just shoot you in the fucking head instead?

okay i'm done

I love when the side of moral relativity preaches to people about what is and what isn't moral.

Cuba or El Salvador?

>mfw morality means being delusional

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAP

Last quote is dumb.
Peoples are shaped by their contexts. That is how you get Poles Germans Niggers etc. The context forces selection onto the variation of the members of the tribe and through heritability over time it leads to your races or cultures etc..
Through superior context (constitution) you shape man into a greater being by providing the context within which virtue is selected for and thus transform him.
This guy is a tard about not knowing about Mankind, it is made up red-herring, if someone said that to my face I would laugh at him for being a tard. That or try to be polite to the mentally disabled person.
Either or.
I get it this guy is old school doesn't know about Natural Selection or Social Eugenics. Still allowed to call his ideas dumb.

reminder that communism is a trash ideology and doesn't deserve intellectual engagement

>Reminder that if you *AGREE with these political statements, you are immoral
>>the workers should own the means of production
>>society should be stateless, classless, moneyless

FTFY

Listen pal, if you provide a girl that's like the one in that pic, i'm more than willing to give your communist shit a try, I won't need class, money, or a state, i'll be content.
Here's a question though, in "True Communism" why would i put in any extra effort if there isn't any return in material wealth, or clout in the caste system. I'm not a moral god who is willing to work twice as hard as the next guy to get the same return as him. I'm not a capitalist so some actual insight would be great because i'm sure as fuck not reading das kapital or some boring ass book in hopes of finding an answer.

He WAS a socialist...then he grew up

That's the only one I agree with

>Communist
>knows anything about morality

>Slow clapping commences.

Reminder that when we finally kick this shitfest off, we're not going to give commies out of helicopter rides because it's unamerican. We're going to throw them into wood chippers instead.

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It's baffling the amount of times i've come into threads like this and seen replies like this like cooperatives aren't real things.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation

How many rubles does Soros pay you to spend your days posting retarded shit like this? I'm genuinely curious. Do you make an actual living at it or are you on gibs as well?

>Another retarded commie that doesn't understand the concept of charity and how if you force it at gun point it's no longer moral

I love the daily thickheaded commie posting

OP's in commie threads should be witless. You certainly are holdin up your end (pun intended).

>if you disagree with me you're a monster
>no
>wow that's ignorant
Commies

>Mondragon Corporation
So really its still a company but with a fancy name and business structure. But in essence engages in trade and commerce on the basis of Capitalism and still pays its workers wages and salaries.

Clearly whatever fantasies Communists have can't exist without Capitalism. Meaning Communism is a redundant layer of bureaucracy.

Hang on comrade, you forgot another line
>communism is a trash ideal for subhumans like you
Fuck off commie

>morals
You lack them. Check my numbers and eat shit commie.

Yes it seems you were about to say something but then posted some retarded unfunny shit

He was talking about workers owning the means of production and i provided a real life example of exactly that, I never said that cooperatives functioned on the same basis of the communist ideal faggot. I mean you can call it capitalism if you want, it's just a tamed version. It's definitely not free market autism though.
It literally doesn't operate even remotely similar to a normal company, There's significantly more differences than just being called something different. Why would you even have a separate name if there were similar gayboy?

>Wage regulation

At Mondragon, there are agreed-upon wage ratios between executive work and field or factory work which earns a minimum wage. These ratios range from 3:1 to 9:1 in different cooperatives and average 5:1. That is, the general manager of an average Mondragon cooperative earns no more than 5 times as much as the theoretical minimum wage paid in their cooperative. For most workers, this ratio is smaller because there are few Mondragon worker-owners that earn minimum wages, because most jobs are somewhat specialized and are classified at higher wage levels. The wage ratio of a cooperative is decided periodically by its worker-owners through a democratic vote.[23]

Morality is jist common thought and it changes all the time, morality is for the weak nature only favors the victorious

I realize there are differences in wages? What are you implying? I agree there should be a difference in wages as to motivate hard work. The workers have decided on those ratios and are content with it. The traditional methods end up with you having absolutely no say in shit, The big man taking home 300:1 ratios. If you want to keep sucking bergsteins cock go right ahead slave morality cuckold.

>Immoral
Morality doesnt exist in any nonsubjective way without the existence of a deity - and basically all the communist I'v ever met are atheist

ok this could work if you make a community within the united states that sells items to fuel a collective.
theres a main bank account which purchases for the whole type thing.
actually that sounds like a cult

>owning the means of production
They don't own the means of production jackass. All they've been given is an entitlement to the corporate body. In fact if you go down the whole "worker-owner" path of corporate structure, its still Capitalism. All you're doing is preferencing the employees with shareholdings in the Company. There is nothing in Capitalism that prevents owners also being the workers. There's plenty of examples where farmers have formed their own collective companies to have stronger selling power. Westfarmers in Australia is an example that outgrew its original purpose to become a retail supermarket giant publicly traded.

The idea that the worker-owner will somehow be happy and utopian is retarded and outdated, Capitalism has already taken that to the next level.

>why different names
Because Communists are stupid unoriginal fucks and had to rebrand it to make it sound like they did something.