So does Spotted Flower now belong in the same "don't read past volume x" category as Bunny Drop?

So does Spotted Flower now belong in the same "don't read past volume x" category as Bunny Drop?

Because the early shit is cute as hell, but it sucks knowing just how much the mangaka fucks up later on

What did they fuck up?

mc gets mad when he remembers that his wife isn't pure and gets fucked by another man to relieve his frustration

>same "don't read past volume x" category as Bunny Drop?
Only for normalfags, Bunny Drop had a perfect ending.

user, even lolicons and incest fans hated the ending

Author can get fucked.
And I mean that literally since he loves gay shit that much.

I hated it because i'm not a girl with daddy issues. I like incests but this was just garbage in every single way, from the way it was handled to the idea itself.

Stop creating thread for this shit, basically a used good, NTR shit. I don't want to see this in the catalog anymore. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

if you want we can change it into a "manga about pregnancy" thread

Wut, its that Oguie?

No, it's Saki's mom

>suddenly NTR everywhere
What the fuck is wrong with this author?

>prison school ending.jpg

It's the era of NTR. More and more media are joining the bandwagon, and there's more translation too.

She's too cute to deserve a faggot husband like him.

Why is this NTR? While me as well think that taking care of someone else sperm is disgusting, i don't think is enough to classified NTR.

It's not NTR until she finds out and let's it keep happening. Ntr is just another word for Cuckold. Right now it's just cheating/unfaithfulness

as far as we can tell, the kid is biologically his. The NTR comes from him cheating on her with his trans best friend because he's not getting laid, which is entirely his fault in the first place

>Ntr is not the same as Cuckold

That's not what I said. The husband getting fucking a trap while his wife is completely unaware isn't NTR.

That's wrong.

You're making this up.

Please define NTR then.

Bullshit. Only people that watch the anime got mad. Those that read the manga was predicting this from the start.

Nope. After his wife gives birth, he sees her talking to her ex who was visiting along with other friends to give their congrats on the birth, and he gets jealous. He then runs into a tranny he knows on the way home, and then proceeds to get fucked by said tranny next to his newborns crib.

I read the manga when it was still getting translated and I completely didn't see that coming at all, at least not until the timeskip happened.

>Those that read the manga was predicting this from the start.
I didn't. Since him and the MILF decided not to start anything because of their kids, I thought the son of the MILF and Rin would eventually get together then shes confesses outta nowhere. If the mangaka was always planning that ending then she completely failed because there was literally no build-up, and don't give me that "b-but Rin never called him dad" bullshit.

The first thing I thought after the first volumes was that Rin is going to have such an Oedipus Complex when she grows up. After learning of the backstory and the timeskip, I was already going 'Wait, are they seriously going to do this?' The only thing holding them back was that single mother love interest, but once that was out of the way, I knew it was inevitable.

I don't want to try to get into carefully defining it, but it doesn't matter whether the person who is being cheated knows or not.

I probably had the proper mindset going into the manga when I found out what genre this is before reading it. It was kinda obvious to me.

>single mother love interest
Supidest throw away character.
Author spent dozens of chapters building up their relationship just so he could go "oh she married some faceless bussiness man in the end."

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I'm alright with a pregnancy thread as long its all vanilla

dont forget she outright refuses him fellatio several times, even though she sucked a bunch of dicks before marrying him.

this is why you dont marry used goods.

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It's not that hard. The original definition from hundreds of years ago just meant any kind of unfaithfulness between husband and wife, with the connotation that the person being cheated on was aware of it. That lead to the fetish definition that we have now of allowing and getting turned on by unfaithfulness from your partner.

And? He's still trash for cheating on her after she gave birth to their first and probably last child because of some petty jealously. On top of that tried several times to get him to fuck her, even turning to cosplay, and he never gave in.

This sounds like the most autistic thing in the world. Who thought this was a good idea?

He could just fix the problem by fucking her, and he didn't.

You can get around the jaw thing by changing the position you blow from woman

why would he want to fuck a woman thats had several dicks in her already?

i mean, do we even know the kid is his?

apparently they got married immediately cause she was already preggers.

So what you're telling me is this guy is somehow the most heinous combination of a cuckold, a literal faggot, and a cheating bastard? And his wife is an impure slut who refuses to give head? And it's not actually a trap but a tranny?
You normally have to read tumblr webcomics to get stuff like this.

I don't know, why the fuck would you marry her if you're that disgusted by her not being a virgin? And how is asking for blow job supposed to be any better than sex?

>says the thought of the baby being in there freaks him out too much to do it normally

I will never understand that argument. You physically can't get anywhere near close enough that you would start poking the baby. It's not even a matter of dick size, its just the mechanics of pregnancy

a lot of men are idiots.

cause hes a spineless faggot.

Its touching the belly, unless youre into that stuff, its really hard to have sex when you know theres a kid in there.

Imagine your dad knocking on your bedroom's door with his dick.

Why did he marry her in the first place if purity was such a big deal to him? Not that purity/being chaste means shit to him since he had no qualms getting fucked by a tranny near his newborns fucking crib.

>The original definition from hundreds of years ago just meant any kind of unfaithfulness between husband and wife,
Clearly you're not actually talking about "NTR".

>Imagine

If I was a fucking fetus I doubt would care.

You remember your time in the womb?

>Why did he marry her in the first place
she was preggo and he is a spineless faggot.

>Right now it's just cheating/unfaithfulness
Here, courtesy of user in /h/ NTR thread.

To add, there are multiple ways to make NTR happen:
1. Rape
2. Seduction
3. Drugs
4. Blackmail
5. Betting
6. Consensual (generally the woman is the one who makes the first motions/suggestions)
7. Hypnosis/Mind Control
And then there are the non-sexual NTRs:
8. Abduction
9. Cash
10. Rescue ("saving" a wife or girlfriend from abusive husband or a woman from a fiance they don't want in a forced marriage)

2, 6, and 10 are cheating types of methods, and they are all NTR. When cheating occurs, NTR automatically happens.

NTR only means the act of stealing someone else's lover/spouse/fiancee/fiance/relation from someone else. It can also work with parents depending on any complexes involved, or, if the parent is completely taken away from their offspring.

NTR is not a silly buzzword, but an actual term based on the Japanese verb netoru, and the term is used as a shorthand for the verb in Japan. Many westerners don't understand this and just say NTR is always painful or hardcore, but that's wrong. It's an overly broad term that covers many stuff.

Below are examples of cheating stories that have an NTR label or sold in NTR publications:
Atelier Sakura's Team NTR made Uwaki Biyori (LITERALLY translates to CHEATING Days)
Netorare New Heroine (Mighty Wife) keeps on cheating on her husband albeit it's kinda of her own volition
Kuroki Hidehiko's Until You Say Yes - Dirty Wife Netorare
SugarBerrySyrup's Shinkon Medaka-chan ga Kumagawa-kun ni NTReru Hon
Almost every story in Aoi Hitori's Netorare Maniacs
Arakure's NTR Shitami Ryokou
Dekosen Takuji's Netorare Kanaezuma, Choco Pahe's Watashi no Netorare Taiken, and Kita Kazuki's Shuujuku from Siberia Maniacs Zetsubou Netorare Selection
LINDA Project's Netorarezuma series
Maririn's C92 doujinshi Kojin Satsuei 19-sai Kareshi Mochi Kouhai-kei Kyonyuu Layer for FGO is literally labeled with NTR on the cover
Just study Japanese and look for them.

Slut.

I think it's more of an issue of Madarame feeling inferior to her ex-boyfriend than being a purityfag.

I was trying to avoid writing a dissertation user, but here we go. Continuing where I left off about the fetish definition, while it is true that the cuckold fetish isn't an exact analog to NTR, it's still an appropriate equivalent since NTR is getting off to a specific outcome of the cuckold fetish: your significant over being so attracted and sexually satisfied by the other man (the fetish uses the terminology "bull" in english, idk if they have a word for it in japanese) that you are essentially shut out of the sexual component of your significant other's life, if not completely abandoned. That then breaks into the sub-types of NTR: Netori, where you get off on being the dude stealing some guys chick, or Netorase where you get off on the sexual jealousy and inferiority created by your chick having better sex with another guy.

Your daddy does

>expecting a guy who faps to trap porn not to go get fucked by other dudes
I mean, what was she expecting?
This is all on her.

What the hell is the cash thing? Prostitution?

Netorare and netori stories do not need the person who is having someone taken from them find out. The reader knows.

And while cuckold can be useful for explaining what it means to non-Japanese, you should not try to use what you know about cuckold and think that it applies to the Japanese meanings.

He labeled it as non sexual, probably something like selling a family member for cash.

>tfw i didn't know about this manga
>tfw i didn't know it was by the same person who did Genshiken
>tfw I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS WAS MADARAME AND SAKI

HOLY FUCKING SHIT GENSHIKEN MIGHT ACTUALLY BE COMPLETELY FUCKING RUINED FOR ME NOW. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

I'm still mad that Hato fucked a married father and happily bragged about it to his girlfriend after.

Probably ? I'm just copy pasting it.
I agree with him on the matter of "When cheating occurs, NTR automatically happens"

I can't fault him for writing this even if I thought it was trash, but I wish this was completely original and not what's basically an alternate universe. He cheaply pulled people in with the shell of Genshiken and what I loved about the original series and dragged it through a dirty back alley.

>Netorare and netori stories do not need the person who is having someone taken from them find out. The reader knows.

Fair point, I'll concede that. What's wrong with the rest of my working definition though? What japanese implications/subtleties/etc. am I missing?

In case you haven't been keeping up genshiken has been shit for a long time.

Don't forget that the mangaka ends the chapter with the tranny bragging to xir GF about how cute the married man she fucked was, and the man back at home going "lol this doesn't count as cheating does it?" as if the whole fiasco was meant to be comedic

Now that I think about it, Genshiken Madarame is totally capable of cheating on Sue if he feels even a tiny bit insecure.

I'm not the guy you're talking with, but your definition of netorase is a bit wrong.
inferiority or a better sex act doesn't need to come into play in netorase.

>what was she expecting?
A baby.

Does NotYajima have a cuck fetish?
Why was she okay with her boyfriend cheating on her with another guy?

Bros before hoes.

Shes a fuyoshi thats into Yaoi and BL.

Oh i see. So what is netorase then?

He refuses to fuck her, I think it's pretty fair that she refuses to give him head.

Guy making her woman have sex with another man.

What a whore. Hope she dies.

>how to get HIV

I mostly agree, but I'll add the caveat that the guy being cucked has to be introduced to the reader. Part of ntr is the framing of the whole thing. If she's just wearing a wedding ring or talking about some neglectful older husband, it probably is still NTR, but doesn't evoke the same feelings

So I was just unnecessarily adding reasons for why the man would want his woman to have sex with another man, got it.

The only good NTR is when a plump milf cheats on a neglectful husband with a shota.

I concur. The thing you described is still NTR but a shitty one.

I wouldn't say you're far off there, but this is some next level shit. In Genshiken, the characters mostly stopped theirselves from going down this road, and in there is the respect for responsibility even if frustrating.

There'd better be proof because I don't believe any of you

Which part. notMadarame have anal sex with notHato is the latest chapter.

just look at this slut, lusting for another guy while her daughter and husband are near her.

Check the raws.

All he knows about female anatomy he learned from reading ero-doujin

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Stop being lazy and archive, faggot.

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Jesus, is notHato at least post-op?

No. He fucks Madarame in the ass.

She spent the entire damn series trying to get him to fuck her pregnant brains out and he wussed out every single fucking time.

Don't make excuses for this fucking faggot.

Isn't pregnant sex supposed to be amazing cause pheromones or some shit? Literal faggot

Well, the series couldn't continue about her trying to get him to fuck her pregnant brains out anymore.