What's so bad about licensing gun ownership and a national gun registry?

What's so bad about licensing gun ownership and a national gun registry?

Maybe it would even be easier to stomach for the 2A folks if we could lift some other restrictions on gun ownership, like machine guns and SBRs but a more effective method of restricting guns from criminals while not encumbering law-abiding citizens too much would go a long way towards reducing such incidents.

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It isn't that bad of an idea, except the government charges money for it. If there was a mandatory safety course like we have in Canada, it would definitely cut down on incidents. However, firearms ownership is a protected right under the 2nd amendment, so this wouldn't really work according to US law.

Why do you need a list of all the guns?
Well you only need a list if you plan to take them.
Fuck off no gunner.

Government should have zero say in who has a gun and should stick to (((liberating))) 3rd worlder's.

>2032
>oh no another fake shooting
>bernie sanders brain in a jar finally banned rifles yay
>oh no one turned them in? good thing we got this big list

>80% lower
fuck your bullshit.

100% true

Canada had a federal gun registry
It was abolished by the harper government and all records of it were to be destroyed
then flooding happened in alberta and some RCMP got the bright idea of stealing some guns from evacuated homes
they used the supposedly-deleted registry they still had to find out who had what guns
then broke into the properties and stole the guns
then lied when they were caught and said they were just safekeeping them honest :^)

registry = planned gun confiscation

You don't get to license out a natural right.

Fuck off. Google HB69 Alaska law

Licenses will lead to cops and other government agencies denying you one due to obscure reasons. Here in my country we have a sort of licensing system and theoretically they can’t deny you a buying license without factual and definitive proof that you are a danger to yourself and others.

Do you know what happened some months ago? The cops in a certain region denied the buying permit to a guy that lived alone because they claimed that he didn’t have any friends and lacked social interaction with other people.

That’s the type of bullshit that will happen in the USA.

As for registries, these will only make it extremely easy for the cops to confiscate your guns based on bullshit. Then good luck trying to get them back.

Do you know what happens here in Switzerland? Many gun owners when they are about to break up with a girlfriend or divorce, will give their guns to local gun shops for storing because many times a angry girlfriend/wife will tell the cops that they threatened them with guns, which leads to confiscation with ZERO PROOF.

Fuck licensing and gun registries.

No. Fuck off.

How are we supposed to keep felons from having guns?

We already restrict them from having guns on paper but it clearly doesn't work in practice.

You can make more laws as much as you want to strip rights and consolidate more power over law abiding citizens but there will always a criminal element and black market in society. The Drug War was a way the government actually took control,of drug trafficking, released it in inner cities, and arrested (mostly) black minorities using or selling the drugs. I guarantee you if their was The Gun War this would have the same results. For fucks sake haven't you learned anything from prohibiton?

See:

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Background checks is the only thing that is preventing criminals from buying a gun legally, and they are already in place. There is nothing more to do about the issue.

Licenses have been introduced in yurop to make it more complicated, costly and annoying to own guns, ensuring that less and less people would bother going through the process to get a gun, thus lowering the number of gun owners. The less gun owners there are, the less they are politically relevant, the less they are able to defend their rights. The end goal is to remove all guns from society, and this is where the national gun registry comes into effect. The state knows who own what weapon, and where to find them, making confiscation so much easier.
Registration always lead to confiscation.
In France, since a few years, the state gave to prefincts the possibility to confiscate any gun from anyone without any legal procedure, just because they feel like it. Since the newest hate speech laws, anyone who says something racist/xenophobic/antisemitic/islamophobic/homophobic/transphobic/mysogynistic, etc can face more fine and jail time than before, but most importantly, can have their guns confiscated and be banned from owning guns for years.

None of this prevents any shooting anyway. How would a license or a national registry have stopped the Parkland shooter?
In France again, getting a semi-automatic weapon or a handgun requires more than a license, you need to have been in a gun club for at least 6 months, you have to undergo three controlled shooting sessions a year, you have to get the approval of the French shooting federation and finally you have to fill in papers to get the approval of your prefinct after an improved background check and prove that you have a safe to store the firearms in, then you wait for months. The authorization is valid 5 years, after which you'll need to renew it by doing this all of that again. You'll also need to renew your license

and get it stamped by a doctor every year, as well as undergo the three controlled shooting sessions every year. The prefinct can refuse to give or renew an authorization without having to justify themselves, and there is no recourse.
None of this prevented a mass shooting last year, done with legal guns. A sandnigger was on a terror government watch list, yet was able to go through the whole process and get semi-auto rifles legally, he even got his authorizations renewed despite having been identified as a potential terrorist in the background check. The prefinct still renewed the authorizations because "they didn't want him to realize he was on a watch list".
As long as you don't have a criminal or mental record, you'll be able to buy any gun you want, the number of hoops in the process to do so is irrelevant. Someone who is motivated to commit a crime will go through it.
And even for those who have a criminal record, there is the black market that will never dry out because of smuggled firearms from war torn countries.
Gun control doesn't work, never worked, never will.

>licensing gun ownership

SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.

give them an inch, they'll take a mile. they'll keep restricting it until they start interviewing your wife, if she says you got mad at her once in your life you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun.
or they'll say someone in your family had alzheimers, you're dangerous.
then they'll say, even if you have a gun, you're not allowed to defend yourself. just let the robber take your lifes work, and rape your children.

Fuck you statist. maybe we'll find a crypto that can decentralize the government.

Because the list is used to confiscate.

Its current year, not 2007, even plebs arent falling for these arguments anymore.

Try harder.

>whats so bad about the central jew?

Guns should only be for law abiding tax paying Americans. If you break the law, then you don't care about the laws of our land are basically like an illegal. Safe and sane gun laws for Americans.

>Dangerous and insane gun laws for Americans.

Just because you call it something doesn't mean it is.

And exactly how would your new laws keep felons from getting guns? Do you know how felons acquire guns? They don't go to a gun store. They also don't buy them from law abiding citizens. Privates sellers create a bill of sale and make a copy of a the purchasers ID in case the buyer commits a crime. As the gun will be traced back to the owner that purchased it a gun store.

Felons buy guns on the street. Usually from crackheads who spend their time breaking into cars and homes looking for anything small and valuable to sell. No amount of new hoops for law abiding citizens to jump through will make a criminal follow the law.

Clearly the point of more laws is to make it harder for the law abiding to legally acquire a firearm.

>What's so bad about licensing jews/niggers and sand niggers and a national jews/niggers and sand niggers registry?

>Who can protest it? not one little chink in the armour of the communist regime.
Exactly. Why? No gunz. Even Mao is famously quoted as saying "power comes from the end of a loaded gun". He understood that it's throws a monkey wrench into their plans of waltzing in and doing whatever the hell they want to if the people are able to defend themselves.

if you legitimately support gun control...
Those who avoid and evade the reason for the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution would surely admit that if Lithuania had a Second Amendment, Mikhail Gorbachev violated it on March 22,1990 — Russian troops seized arms from the Lithuanian militia. Or was "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" actually violated two days earlier, when Premier Gorbachev ordered private citizens to turn in their hunting and competition guns to the Russian army within one week "for temporary safekeeping" or have them confiscated and their owners imprisoned? Or was "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" initially violated many years before, when the people were first prohibited from possessing guns without permission of government and laws were passed requiring every gun to be registered? In fact, the Soviet Constitution guarantees the people the right to keep and bear arms, and Lithuania is part of the Soviet Union — or so Gorbachev contends. But obviously the Soviet government pays no more attention to that constitutional freedom guarantee than do the majority of the U.S. Government, the International Association of Chiefs of Police, or CBS and the Washington Post. What is the difference, precisely, between the confiscation of private firearms in Lithuania and the confiscation ordered by S. 166, the Graves bill? What is the difference, precisely, between the registration law in Lithuania — which makes confiscation possible — and the registration of military-style firearms required by California's Roberti-Roos bill, which went into effect January 1,1990. What is the difference, precisely, between Lithuania's law prohibiting the people from owning military-style firearms and the so-called "assault rifle" bans? The difference is that the people of the United States are free men and women who can trust their benevolent government.

No Firearms, NO FREEDOM

>The Chinese Communist Party's leadership has called for the removal of presidential term limits, opening the door for China's most powerful leader in decades, Xi Jinping, to remain in office beyond 2023.

>The party's Central Committee has proposed deleting from the constitution the stipulation that a president "shall serve no more than two consecutive terms" of five years, the official Xinhua news agency said Sunday.

Who can protest it? not one little chink in the armour of the communist regime. Why? No gunz. Even Mao is famously quoted as saying "power comes from the end of a loaded gun". He understood that it's throws a monkey wrench into their plans of waltzing in and doing whatever the hell they want to if the people are able to defend themselves.

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