Why did Araragi choose Senjougahara over Hanekawa? What is it about crab that made him choose her over cat?

Why did Araragi choose Senjougahara over Hanekawa? What is it about crab that made him choose her over cat?

Senjougahara asked first.

Araragi is definitely the kind of guy to do that purely over something like this and no other reason. There are probably other ones, but he wouldn't need them

Better question is why even bother with anyone else when you have Bat?

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hanekawa is a perfect example of what happens if you're not straight forward

Because Hanekawa is a creep who makes other people feel shameful by putting on a mask of perfection.

Senjougahara is simply prettier than Hanekawa

Because Hanekawa doesn't have the guts

This cat is evil incarnate

Senjougahara is the most willful of the heroines. Rather than Araragi choosing her, I'd say she basically nabbed him before the others could.

Cat will always be there as an emergency option. Crab is gone the second Kaiki calls and asks her to get over.

>pick Hanekawa
>fuck two

Best outcome

because he put Hanekawa on too high a pedestal and visa versa for the relationship to work.
he needs someone as petty, capricious, and selfish as himself to have a balanced relationship

crab is a better poster and does not require much effort to maintain. all you have to do is say you love her and she will stick with you forever. mean while, he is playing house with his one and only treasure under everybody's noses. cat would never agree to that. she want a serious, monogamous relationship with him. even if rrrg wants to choose her, he could not fulfill her demand. i.e. to drop everybody else and stick only to me.

She "didn't" have the guts. She did did gain them and confess, but he was already dating crab.

The ironic thing is that Gahara might argue with you over that, besides, you even see her with her hair down without glasses? Supermodel tier.

Did you not see how she said she was trying imitate Hanekawa's style on her date with Araragi in Hitagi Rendezvous? Coupled with the fact that SHE loves Cat too.

Didn't Araragi basically admit he was being a betamax in that commentary for Tsubasa Cat when Hanekawa grilled him on if he noticed her feelings? She pretty much cut him to the quick and this was proven to be actually false.

In fact, she actually took measures to spend more time with him before Gahara came along, they took that part out of the anime. Sure, she took the slower approach, but it wasn't all her fault either.

You don't get the joke

>Because Hanekawa is a creep who makes other people feel shameful by putting on a mask of perfection.
So essentially, it's because Arararagi is a faggot.

I don't think you would like to fuck her in cat form.
Your dick would probably fall off

Quiet down there Oshino, even you admitted that thought was BS and her parents were actually scum who felt bad because they were actually bad people when Araragi pressured you on that.. You just mad Gaen-senpai dommed you in college and started having flashbacks when you met class rep-chan.

braided hair is the worst

if you're a girl and you braid your hair, know that every male thinks you're disgusting.

She is not a commie like cat.

>Crab is gone the second Kaiki calls and asks her to get over.
or crab will call con instead. crab is obsessed collecting his calling card. she lost contact with him in hitagi end. in hana we saw monkey getting a new one.

(monkey called crab)
>senjougahara-sempai!
>what is it?
>we have not seen for some time now. I was hoping that we could get together like we used to be.
>you know i can't do that. i'm really busy with my studies at the university.
>too bad. i have something that you probably would want more than anything.
>i doubt it. what could it possibly be?
>you see. i have this small card here with ghost buster written on it.
>so what. why do i even want to have a card like that?
>well you see there is a name and a number written on it too.
>like i care about anyone who is a ghostbuster or a specialist. i don't want to get involved in the oddities you know.
>i know that but the name here starts with a "k" and ends with an "i" and has five letters on it.
>where do we meet and what time?
>i can't meet you righ... (she gets cut)
>do you want to die? i don't want to repeat again. where and what time?
>(gulp) sorry! here in my house at 3pm.
>good! it is 1pm now so i'll be there at 2pm.
>don't you have class right now.
>does it even compare to that card. you know me well enough to realize that.
>i know but i was just teasing you. i could just give you his number.
>shh! no, it has to be the card. and don't you dare tell or text me his number.
>alright. you got it. geez. why are you so obsesses with him anyway, you already have a boyfriend and araragi-sempai would be furious if he founds out.
>not if he does not know. besides, i've met with him without telling koyomi a lot of times already. it is not like i'm meeting him anyway. I'm just going to get his card from you. it is no big deal.
>I understand. but i would not cover for you if araragi-sempai starts asking.
>fine. see you later. bye!
>bye!
(monkey drops the call)

Ayyyy

Is this canon? Sounds believable.

some niggas like to be noah

>This cat is evil incarnate
In the future, she might set up kaiki and crab again like she did in hitagi end. She said it herself. she left town so that crab have not choice but to call kaiki. Cat is really up to something. She definitely knows about the thing between kaiki and crab. She did it anyway even though she knows that rrrg will be furious if he learns about it (or was it her plan from the start). Evil indeed!

>every discussion on Sup Forums about anything inevitably ends up on cuckolding
Its like our version of Godwin's Law

the power of energy drain. bat and rrrg had that problem in the doujinshi. bat's energy drain went berserk.

Because has bat forever. Might as well taste some other fruit before he has to spend eternity with her.

Araragi rejected his love for Cat forever before he even met Senjougahara. Less than choosing Crab over Cat, it's more like his feelings for Cat are too complicated and hardcore for him to accept, him being the kind of beta that he is he doesn't really have the balls to admit to himself that he loves Hanekawa because of all those reasons Nisio gave us in Neko Kuro. If one wants to understand why Araragi isn't dating Hanekawa, you need to understand Neko Kuro. Easier said than done, though. He grants himself some indulgences now and again like sniffing the panties and hair he keeps stashed in his room, but otherwise it's straight-up denial.

There must still be lingering radiation effects on the Japanese people since so many of them prefer plain jane Tsubasa over male cat.

Because he is stupid.

Crab asked first, and Koyomi was far too indebted to Cat after and during the events of Koyomi Vamp.

Here is a subtle cat shirt I got on order at Sears printing.

Can someone please tell me how there can be two of them? I've seen the entire series but it doesn't make any sense and I've seen more of these pictures around.

Think Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.

its symbolic

is being attacted to cat form gay?

dat bitch be too damn thirsty, major turnoff

Because Hitagi forced herself on him, at the end of Bake I thought that might not be case and they actually loved each other deeply, but as the series went on It became more and more clear that Araragi is a very easy guy, who would date any girl who asked him first and he doesn't even love Hitagi that much, or at least doesn't show it. This sucks because it makes seem like their relationship is purely for convenience sake.

No it's not, Gahara even fucking said she pretended to like Kaiki but Sup Forumsmouthbreathers are too retarded to understand that and so they keep perpetuating the lie that's CrabxCon.

Senjougahara breaks up a couple times with RRG and vice versa, but in the chronologically latest chapter she comes back to Japan to get together with RRG again and they live happily ever after unless a new chapter says otherwise.

If you mean degenerate child raping homosexual, then only if your sex is female.

I also want to add that being attracted to cat form is the best of both worlds because he can be a bro but you can still fuck because Tsubasas body is still 100% female. So have at it .

>Gahara even fucking said she pretended to like Kaiki
Because she is lying. To herself even. Don't you get the whole "this girl pretends every relationship is her first and she is 100% into it"
I don't think CrabxCon will ever happen even if she isn't with Araragi though. Mostly because Kaiki will never start it and Kaiki knows he isn't good for her. Similar to how Araragi isn't good to be around Nadeko.

Because megane girls are always shit.

I actually wish that she liked Kaiki, as he is a much better than Shitragi, but Hitagi end made clear she was just pretending. Maybe she has sympathy for him, but it isn't anything close to love.

is that you cuckgaragi?

>but Hitagi end made clear she was just pretending
I think you are completely wrong here.

>tfw no neko gf to walk home gently

>Deneb, Altair, Vega
I sort of get it. Though it's ruined when Araragi became a scum and chase after other girls as well to pander waifufags. Should've stopped watching after that episode. Shit was so beautiful.

God regular Tsubasa sucks so much.

Do you think in the show when they all become old enough (18+) they will have sexual relations?

This. The end of Hitagi's arc on Bake was the peak of Monogatari, the series will never have a scene so beautiful again

Araragi and Crab had plenty of sex.
Cat clearly fucked lots of men during travels and both his sisters had boyfriends and will clearly get laid in college. Monkey ironically despite how lewd she is will probably be the last one.

Are the people that ask this just memeing or have you not watched/understood Nekomonogatari?

No, I don't think so. They all haven't had any sex yet.

Yes yes funny meme.

What about Nadeko?

Seriously. There was never any rock hard evidence that any of them did. I know anime fans like to perv stuff up and imagine but that's just not the case.

Given her real personality I am sure she would offer everything to get her shit published. Probably calls them koyomo-oni-chan during it though.

I agree when it comes to Hanekawa and Araragi's sisters, but Hitagi and Araragi had sex, that much is extremely obvious.

Nisio answered what their relationship is already in Nise and then in another interview. Nisio said that she was another mother for Araragi.

I really don't see any point in assuming Cat or the sisters would stay virgin and wouldn't lose their virginities at a normal age.

The idea is that she fucks Araragi but then immediately sends him back because she's terrified of him.

Remember, according to the transitive property Senjougahara is the biggest pervert in the series.

This.

Because Hanekawa is even more of a cunt then Senjougahara. She just tries to hide it.

>normal age
The problem is that you are thinking of the normal age a girl would lose her virginity in the west. In Japan it's not uncommon for girls to stay virgins until as late as their mid 20's, plus they are anime girls, so it's even more likely they will stay virgins for longer.

fuck off with this stale meme

>In Japan it's not uncommon for girls to stay virgins until as late as their mid 20's
Not if they are this attractive and in the case of the sisters have boyfriends this early and in the case of Cat literally explode into a demon if they get too stressed.

>normal age
Fuck you, degenerate Westerner.

Aren't the sister's boyfriend's names just puns on their own or something? I don't actually think they exist.

18 years old is when you can start being sexually active.

>That's it
>What?
>That's everything, all I can give you
This thread made me rewatch the scene again and fuck me it reminded me why I loved the series in the first place. The quiet atmoshpere, the characters, the ost. It's a story about a girl who needs help and a boy who helps everyone. This scene is the culmination of a teenage love that tugs at heart because of how simple it is. No trip overseas, no expensive gifts, just a picnic under the star with profound dialogue. It made me angry at the same time since they shit on this beautiful relationship for waifubaits, I dropped it halfway on Mathgirl arc. I'm not sure I should pick it back up again but at least this scene stays with me.

They're both depraved perverts, so they can at least bond over that.

Even if Hanekawa asked first he'd say no. He says this over and over again, he thinks Hanekawa deserves someone better than him. Or rather that he doesn't see himself as worthy of her, however you want to put it.

>as he is a much better than Shitragi
Aside from those one note vampire hunter guys Kaiki's worst boy in the series. Biggest manchild in the series who acts more like a dumb teenager than most of the actual dumb teenagers that make up the cast, he's a literal cuck, and every specialist introduced in the series is better than him too so he doesn't even have that distinction going for him either. I have no idea why it's always this sort of character Sup Forums is attracted to.

>I have no idea why it's always this sort of character Sup Forums is attracted to.
In this case they just like cuckolding. That's it.

>Not if they are this attractive
I don't think would understand just how many virgins Japan has:
>According to the Japan Times, a new survey of Japanese people ages 18 to 34 found that 70 percent of unmarried men and 60 percent of unmarried women are not in a relationship. It gets worse: Around 42 percent of men and 44.2 percent of women admitted that they were virgins

>sisters have boyfriends
Yes, but they are what, 14 years old? I doubt they would lose their virginity at that age, especially that again, they are anime girls on top of all.
As for Hanekawa, it may happen, or it may not. I deny the possibility until the show at least imply something.

>Though it's ruined when Araragi became a scum and chase after other girls as well to pander waifufags.
He was already chasing Hachikuji around in Bake, and no amount of
>bawwww it's just comedy it doesn't count! D=
will change that. Read/watch an actual romance story instead of complaining how Monogatari never was one.

>Yes, but they are what, 14 years old? I doubt they would lose their virginity at that age
How old are you exactly?

>Yes, but they are what, 14 years old? I doubt they would lose their virginity at that age, especially that again, they are anime girls on top of all.
I specifically said when they would go to college. I am not saying they will lose it to those boyfriends. But getting a boyfriend is an important early step.

>little girl
>chasing around
>not a joke
Heh, good one

Again, you using the degenerate females from your society as an standard to judge Japanese.

I thought the entire joke was that the "boyfriends" were obviously made up. Neither sister can really come up with a description for their boyfriends beyond "he's kind of like my brother".

So which girl is he chasing around that isn't a joke?

I thought they tried for them to set up to meet their brother.
Although I don't know the timing. If both of them got them around when he started with Crab then them being fake would be kinda cute.

B-but my cuckholding fetish

Be consistent and write off everything else Araragi does and being just a joke atleast. The only part of this series with more explicit scenes of the sort you guys complain about was Nise, that's it.

Alternatively drop the double standards and watch or read something else entirely instead of complaining about the series not being something it never was.

False equivalence. The perv stuff that RRG did with other girls on Bake was far less extreme than later on in the series, it's not even comparable imo. Not to mention that his relationship with Hitagi wasn't established yet at that point

It became not a joke after Bake to sell waifu shits. During Bake, Araragi only teases Hachikuji because he's a big brother, he deals with little girls like he deals with his sisters. Of course there are people who like girls like Hachikuji (read: pedo) so they need to keep it up a notch and it became disgusting.

He literally kisses Shinobu at Monogatari second season.
>instead of complaining about the series not being something it never was.
Don't give Araragi a girlfriend then? It's painfully obvious that Isin did that just to justify Araragi not fucking every girl he meets.

>It became not a joke after Bake to sell waifu shits
With whom? Name one girl he is after seriously other than Crab and in a more meaningful way Bat.

Its fine to fuck children when they are 10 to 12 but generally they don't form their own relationships until 20 or so.

Bakemonogatari was about a nihilistic guy with a wicked sense of humor deciding who he liked the best out of all the girls he knew.

The rest of Monogatari is about a slightly less nihilistic guy with a slightly more wicked sense of humor deciding which of the girls he liked the best he liked more, but he's taking a really long time to break it to the other one that he wants to finish it.

he became more perverted in his interaction with them. I can list examples like toothbrush scene, twister scene, Monkey undressing, etc but you get the picture. Serious in here is not in he wants to be their boyfriend but acts like he's not even in a relationship at all. This is done so the other girls has scenes that waifufags can fap/admire/see in order to sell merchandise and keep up the show's popularity.

>he became more perverted in his interaction with them
None of that is ever serious. Its played for jokes entirely.

>Biggest manchild in the series who acts more like a dumb teenager than most of the actual dumb teenager
Why would say that? Genuinely curious.

>The perv stuff that RRG did with other girls on Bake was far less extreme than later on in the series
Just Nise. Bake's the only season where they had to outright censor scenes for TV release despite it being the least fanservice-y part of the franchise according to you speedwatchers.

>Not to mention that his relationship with Hitagi wasn't established yet at that point
It was established after Mayoi Snail, so yes it was established already. Nevermind the things he says to Kanbaru in Nadeko Snake that Shaft cut out.

Be consistent and say all the shit Araragi does "doesn't count" if you're going to deny shit that hurts your fragile feelings, most of the time it's not initiated by himself anyway.

>Don't give Araragi a girlfriend then?
It's been clear from the beginning that it's just a story about these chick's problems with Araragi being the observer/narrator. His lovelife just frames the rest of the story and nothing else, you guys pretend it's at the forefront of the story and it's all that you talk about because you're all a bunch of lonely middle aged women at heart evidently that reinterpret everything to suit what you want.

EVERYTHING is exaggerated for fucks sake. Do you also think the shit happening in the scenery is exactly what is happening. He is not being punched into the stratosphere by hachikuji. He is just teasing her a little.

Not him but that is what his character is. He's early timeline Araragi if he never grew up and never stopped running away from everything. Kaiki's entire backstory is that he's moping about a chick who didn't return his feelings several decades ago. Says he has some sort of duty to look out for Kanbaru but does nothing for her all series because he ran away from that too. The only actually positive thing he does all series is give advice to the other character in this series who was as self-deluded as he is.

Not hating on the character here, Kaikifags get spergy whenever you say something bad about him for some reason but all the endless praise he gets from people here is sort of missing the point of his character I feel.

Praise Black Cat.