Why does pol never mention public sector workers? They leech off us all. They are paid in tax revenue which devalues all currency in circulation. They are effectively stealing purchasing power and have the power of the state supporting them.
EVERYONE in public sector "work" needs to get a real job and contribute for he west to rise again.
Do you understand this?
Lol I'm guessing that job didn't come though, eh?
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>Do you understand this?
YES
You will start the same threads everyday
Stop being autistic please
>Be military
>Branch hasn't seen a pay raise in 17 years
>Only branch who hasn't had a raise
>Government keeps hiring "executives" on 300k+ salaries to "steer" military towards the future
>Government keeps playing social politics with the military
>Government is pushing gender politics and gender identity down our throats
>Government is wondering why military can't keep people employed
>Government is wondering why suicide, depression, stress and overall unhappiness is skyrocketing
I can't wait for the day the government of Australia NEEDS our military only to realize their incessant meddling has rendered us next to useless. I can't wait for it all to burn to the fucking ground.
Pic is me, 8 years and two university degrees later full of jaded rage, no HECS debt tho so thats a fucking plus
Holy fuck that's funny.
Based OP.
Public sector unions should be outlawed or public sector workers shouldn't be allowed to vote.
The way it's setup now, they're just bleeding the system dry.
I'm self employed and If Im paid in cash, I dont tell anyone.
I would hate to "work" in the public sector. I consider it a cop out
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damage control
yeah - even within the hierarchy they still take advantage of those lower down and for those higher its a literal cash grab.
The military should only be big enough to defend its home nation
based Canadians
Sounds like you don't understand what the public sector does. You need to read up on scientometrics and understand why the public actually funds so much shit. The public sector has terrible management sure but they are also part of the spineless cunts our populations elect. In Australia public sector workers are paid terribly, under inflation rate by a large margin. Except for management which are payed grossly above average wages. Then they get confused why nothing ever gets done, when they're seeking highly experienced IT professionals for minimum wage. This just leads the shitkickers to get public sector jobs and anyone with worth ethic to stop bothering.
One of my first jobs was for a federal government think tank and the second was for local government. Working with lazy people breaks you because not only are they getting paid to do less, they resent you because you make them look bad. The real issues are fuckwit managers and legislation which means you can't fire people who are basically retarded. Yet that isn't just a public sector thing, it is an everywhere thing.
I'm saying the state is insolvent, yet simultaneously is an employer. It makes no sense. There wouldnt be a problem if the state kept within its means but it doesn't - and it doesn't have to because its gone into debt arming plebs to defend THEM not the public.
>military not raise
Why don't you overthrow that fags and feed to sharks?
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It doesn't make sense if you have such a basic view of economics. Also those plebs honestly hate refugees and fuckwits more than you do. That's why they shaped their career around beating the fuckers up. The issue is the pressure placed on them by, guess what... shitty management. They're forced to not say "niggers on a crime spree" and just assume so. Those plebs care about the country more than you do that's why they put their arses on the line. It honestly confuses the shit out of me when people think that the government can order 66 everyone.
>public sector workers shouldn't be allowed to vote.
This, voters should be the ones putting money into the treasury. Not those receiving. For what ever reason.
>free market is best!!
>reee i hate those assholes working the in the public sector, with their fancy job security, retirement and health care!!!! reeeeeeeee
Contribution is literally what every state is about. If you feel like you're being a lot poorer than the average state worker, if you feel like there's just not enough left for yourself after taxes, blame none other than your boss. Complaining to him probably won't do you any good though, because your boss is most likely a radical anti-state right-wing wanker just like you are. He'd fire your ass ASAP and blame the state for his actions.
I dont blame immigrants. It makes sense for them to immigrate if they get a free house and free living.
Who makes these laws and who enacts them and who upholds them and who at the boarder ready to let them in???????>>>>>>>> Public sector plebs.
Immigrants act as a stimulus. The money is created and given to them which they spend. It devalues the currency but people are ignorant of that fact. This created money is the same as the money created to pay for public sector workers and welfare recipients, so no wonder public sector workers are sour - the immigrants are taking their budget. More can just be printed, but PSWs are unaware of the money system apparently, otherwise they wouldnt "work" in the public sector
yes
The government is a monopoly. Its not a "free market" if intervention, constant bailout (in effect) and ever expanding policies with no limit is involved.
>fire your ass ASAP and blame the state for his actions
yeah - of course. Hes not in control of the money supply. He doesn't control inflation or purchasing power. I can ask him for more money and he can refuse - thats his right. Theres nothing wrong with that.
If I insisted on earning the same VALUE per hour as someone doing the same job in 1970, every employer would go bust instantly. We are earning devalued currency because the public sector workers are basically full-time welfare recipients
>public sector pay raises
???????????????????????
I've gotten 2% two years in a row. That almost matches inflation!
I know right. There shouldnt be any pay, considering the "employer" is broke and all
Public sector plebs don't fucking do anything which involves legislating you goddamn fucking moron. The people which do it are the people you elected, those aren't "public sector plebs" those are bought and paid shills who will put in any law that their donors tell them to. Also Australian National Debt means fuck all we can pay that shit off easily, sure you can run off surplus but no one you elect will ever suggest that because their corporate overloads make money from the repayments.
Currency is created in relation to inflation rates, public workers aren't paid with currency that is freshly printed. They're given the normal currency everyone else gets. Federal banking agencies are the ones who oversee any new currency, that's not just "given" to immigrants.
You are so unaware of "the money system" that you claim others are unaware of. The government actually earns money off of your tax return with interest in using the funds, even if they return them to you at end of financial. Government departments are allocated huge funds which are supposed to be sustained on their interest. Social security gets a chunk of money every year sure but it isn't actually that much, they actually have a huge account which is supposed to be self sustaining. Think of it like any business.
>Public sector plebs
You don't seem to understand, migrants are designed to destroy the buying power of what remains of the middle class.
It's a method of inflating an already inflated housing bubble here, along with Chinese investment and negative gearing.
More demand: Less buying power.
Those at the top are just walling up the gap between themselves and the poor.
I work for the NHS. I am a public sector worker.
I get paid less than I would in the private sector. My pay for the last few years has increased at less than the rate of inflation. So every year I effectively get paid less. I pay taxes on my earnings at the same rate as people in the private sector.
The work I do means that people don't die.
Yet somehow I am worse than someone who works simply to line some fatcats pockets?
Didn't the Soviet Union fuck themselves doing some shit like this?
You know how much America actually generates in tax? They can pay off that debt extremely quickly. Same with most countries, except a few outliers like Japan. The real issue is that countries aren't suggesting they work in surplus because that would be "socialism". That is the entire presentation of the government to normal people. Your government is "socialist" if it saves and invests your money properly. If it is a couple years in debt and paying off banks then it is "neo-conservative" or "liberal" or whatever the fuck parties are calling themselves. Even though a socialist government would actually be in a huge fucking debt.
You looking to privatize your health care and education systems, too? If so, welcome to the third world like us.
you uphold a failing system so yes you are worse.
...for the superfluous was the state invented!
>Government is wondering why suicide, depression, stress and overall unhappiness is skyrocketing
What, over gender politics? Maybe these people shouldn't be in the military anyway. How the fuck does 'encouraging women to go well in the military' cause suicides and depression?
Not sure about other countries (i assume so) but this shit is driven by "women" for "women/others"and enforced by "men"
They enable same shit to the police force and firefighters
I hope all of this political correctness backfires horribly, but as always men will carry the burden
I can only imagine the level of lazy on government work. There's zero stress about losing your job, it must be a level of lazy that just seeps in to every pore.
Do you pay taxes user?
It is man. Fucking worst job I had because lazy people break your work ethic and actually make you forget your goals. You get stuck in the grind. I've actually had to write down my goals because I was just getting sucked down there.
>They enable same shit to the police force and firefighters
I'm trying to get in shape to join the fireys, but looking at shit like this I think I'll just look at getting qualified as a sparky instead.
thats from '09
how and why and slavic viral marketing interns this culturally tonedeaf?
>driven by "women"
Note how large a percentage of the public sector is occupied by these. Where I'm at looks like it's close to 90%
in the US literally every administrative gov job is held by a woman or a black woman. Was at the BMV and saw a fucking somali clerk lol. I live in a poor white part of town by the way.
>it has it has
hurts my autism
90% Public sector workers are lazy leaching scum
It's like easy life mode good pay good pension good benfits not much work.
Most there jobs are made up pointless paperwork jobs that are not needed as well.
This thread is fucking gay, Anarcho-Capitalism is a fucking jewish trick, and OP is a faggot
Hey mate, honest advice. You aren't going to get into the fireys no matter how hard you try. It is way more complicated than you could think of. Mainly because they have so many volunteers. You pretty much have to know someone and have been volunteering since you were a kid. Mainly because they do so much shit other than fight fires. Fireys in Aus are really different to the rest of the world, to my knowledge. They aren't proper public sector workers and so much of our emergency services actually rely on volunteers. Not to shit on your dreams but it would honestly take you 10 years to become one. Much easier becoming a sparky and actually earning some money. You can always become a sparky, get the licences you need then apply using your electrical cert as a footing.
Honestly mate, firefighters are actually overqualified for what they get paid. If you wanna get into work relevant to firefighting, try developing your knowledge of fire regulations and building codes. Fire inspectors also get paid out the arse, you can be a firefighter part-time on the side.
>Public sector plebs don't fucking do anything which involves legislating
yes they do. MPs are not privately employed to create and pass laws do they?
> The people which do it are the people you elected
Yes - MPs. MPs are on the public payroll. Like welfare recipients.
>Currency is created in relation to inflation rates
No its not. The bank bailouts in 2008 show they can just create the money at will
>The government actually earns money off of your tax return
right, because now they dont have to create the new currency. If they could tax the whole budget they would, and similarly if they recieved zero tax revenue they would still operate. Thats exactly my point.
I think you are emotionally involved since you actually "work" for the public sector, so you're the last person to have an objective view of the public sector.
>One of my first jobs was for a federal government think tank
Also, if you think a "think tank" is working, you have no idea about reality.
Be aware you are basically in a cult. You have been brainwashed OR you are fully aware of the corrupt and failed system you are sponging off.
It would suck to be you - you are basically a slave
should be a comma in between the two
Nah solid advice, I don't want to be working for a woman or have women by my side in a life-threatening situation.
saved
>So every year I effectively get paid less
yes this is true of everyone and the reason is public sector "workers" who are on the same payroll as benefits claimants
we generated 6.5 trillion. in order to pay the debt off in 3 years, we would have to spend literally nothing.
Nah, the state (be it monarchy, democracy, meritocracy any other) is a precondition for civilization like it or not.
>They can pay off that debt extremely quickly.
Lol. No. Thats not how it works.
No nation "pays off debt". Their currency just devalues. Our currencies are monetized debt.
No wonder you are so confused
This. The public sector is overflowing with women because in there you can be lazy fuck and not get fired.
Women have no place in work.
We are all forced to under threat of kidnapping and put into a rape camp at the expense of the state (which is again acting as stimulus) which is "insolvent" and having property seized, so Im guessing he does.
Everyone you save will die eventually.
Also fuck off back to plebbit.
Fuck you. I work for the city. I make 80k a year and bust my ass 12 hours a day. I work 3 days a week and then 4 days a week, alternating. That’s 84 hours every paycheck. With only 4 hours being paid at overtime. I’m sure there’s plenty of lazy public sector workers, but #notallmen
>MPs
Those people aren't plebs you silly fuck, they're much higher than you are. They went to the best schools and come from money. They are the "patricians" if anything. A public sector pleb by definition is the person filing the paper work.
>The government can create money out of nothing
Sure can but they don't because it entirely fucks with the inflation rate. They also don't want this because they have that money too.
>you are emotionally involved
I don't work for the public sector anymore. I used to and as I said it was terrible because it was managed poorly, just like most companies. Those people who manage it aren't plebs though, I don't think you understand what that means.
>thinktank isn't real work
What do you do you dopey cunt? Shitkicking for money under the table means nothing, productivity wise. My government think tank invented fucking wireless internet, it maps geological mineral deposits for other countries and sells them that information back. As I said get a clue in scientometrics, my thinktank provides better research than large corporations for a 1/10 of the cost. You clearly don't know what you are fucking talking about.
You are a slave to your own ignorance.
From what i've seen/heard firefighters have been less effected worse thing they've managed to do is dumb downed the fitness exam something like the way you handle the ladder and weight of 'body' you had to carry halved
spent like 15 minutes i cannot find the video that described some of the changes
Something i also neglected to say but i'd say
yeah exactly this.
Combating inevitable deteriorating health when your currency is debt makes for a cash cow. Its a problem that can never be solved. We have all been brainwashed into thinking the NHS is awesome when its just shit - unless you have a broken bone or a gash that needs sewing up.
tfw work for the state
mfw my pay has been steadily increasing each year over the last 8 years I've worked there
Our currencies aren't monetized debt, again you are a stupid cunt and have no idea what you are talking about. That is the most reductionist approach to fiat value I have ever read. The federal reserve distributes the new currency to others in the form of debt, not itself.
How the fuck do you function with such a retarded view of the world?
yes - MPs are plebs. They are order followers and are incapable of independent thought. They can hide the inflation rate through shadow banking and all manner of economic instruments. Think tanks are well known to be insiders basically pumping hot air in their own arseholes. Good job.
I'm sure you earn a lot but its at the expense of your soul.
I'm sure standing in a toll booth must be terribly demanding.
sadly
It's true, these leeches gotta go
I make a living legally stealing money from arseholes like you.
You slave away so you can pay me loadsamoney for doing nothing.
Who's the retarded one here?
>most reductionist approach to fiat value
yes - I have to keep it basic so everyone understands and the more complex I go, the easier it is to go off topic. You obviously know about Austrian Economics and find the information in this thread a threat which tells me you are just a damage-controlling shill. Theres one in every thread. Sad guy.
You got no fucking clue what a pleb is. They aren't commoners, they have interests that are far above your own. Look at the PM of Australia, his entire purpose of running was to see how many vaccines he could force onto people because he owns a huge shares in those companies. One before it comes from a family which invented modern dentistry. One before it was married to a person which own the monopoly on labour hire. These people aren't plebs you stupid cunt. They're above you in every fucking way.
Also you never fucking answered my question, what is your profession? What elevates you above all of us "plebs" out there?
exactly.
Yes. Most countries this is how the downfall begins.
>HE MUST BE A SHILL HE DISAGREES REEEEE
How many US anons even know what a Beltway Bandit is?
How many US anons really believe the president, and not the massive administrative public service sector, truly steers the country.
Elections are a pointless ritual meant to distract you from what is really going on.
Oh yeah - MPs are exclusively Eton educated. They are toffs - I get that.
But they have masters that they obey - they're not just "loose" in parliament doing whatever. Each PM has to inherit the debt of the last, so it doesn't matter who you vote for - you are still voting for the same system.
The cats out of the bag. The horse has bolted. We have the internet, soooooooooooo you can try to damage control, but its just more ammo for me really at this point.
There needs to be a public sector, some jobs should not be for profit. However the modern public sector is bloated with useless bureaucracy slowing it the fuck down.
Your literally shilling the system - which is slavery. Im am shilling personal sovereignty, if anything
>public sector is bloated
yes it acts a stimulus package in effect when monetized debt is the national currency
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I don't think he minds the state per se, what he objects to is it being worshipped as a god. As in libtarded gibs mentality.
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>sure can but they dont because it fucks with the inflation rate
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I wouldn’t know. I bill containers at a port from a kush office and browse.
This thread is Jewish as fuck. We need more people working for the public good, not for the profit of rootless international financiers. Almost all public services in Britain have been outsourced to private companies like Crapita, who bleed the public purse dry (the money siphoned off to Jewish investors) and then fail to deliver what they promised.
The saddest part is they aren't even necessary anymore. Most of their work could be automated. Can't wait till this fact becomes so obvious that even the most socialist governments will have no choice but to fire those fucktards.
Would you mind explaining how. The state seems to me like the opposite of a civilization.
If people were hired on merit and not affirmative action perhaps work wouldn't need to be outsourced
Keep dodging the question of what you do. You probably fucking deliver pizzas for cash in hand. Sounds like true personal sovereignty to me. Meanwhile all my earnings go into a family trust which pays me under tax threshold so I pay no tax, along with my wife. But I'm the fucking slave because I develop ways to unfuck the education system by delivering ways for information to reach everyone on the cheap?
The current system is shit because of the top, no doubt. Yet it is there to serve every idiot on the bottom who doesn't know how to exploit it. It's not hard to get paid in a normal job and not pay tax. But you being a fucking pizza delivery boy isn't helping anyone. My active research in making it so that marxists don't take over the education system on the other hand is atleast an attempt.
But go on tell me I'm a fucking shill because I am getting paid 100k AUD (which is fuck all desu) for working on ways to disband universities which are ideological cesspools that just make every kid in them retarded lefties.
And Kikes call themselves the destroyers...
>public good
>public purse
-pick one
>dry
oh wait you did
How can you be employed in a government think tank and be this willing to engage in shitty ad hominems?
Aren't you supposed to be intelligent?
No matter how you try to improve your country, will you ever come to the conclusion your think tank has fulfilled it's task and should receive no further funding?
In a privately owned company, profit is the ultimate motivator. If the company can not be profitable, they will stop existing. Each employee is judged by how much profit he makes the company.
How are public servants judged?
>Public sector plebs don't fucking do anything which involves legislating you goddamn fucking moron.
You should try googling before ranting. The office of parliamentary council does nothing but draft legislation. Politicians have an idea of what they want to legislate, OPC makes their idea work.
Then you've got the thousands of pieces of delegated legislation, largely written by lawyers in various departments. Politicians never even read that stuff.
Am I supposed to be intelligent? I never said anything of the sort. I said I am trying to fix the system, in what little way one person can.
My think tank has never fulfilled it's task because science and innovation doesn't fucking stop. In a privately owned company profit is the ultimate motivator even if it ends up pushing up their prices to artificially inflate growth. Look at academic journals for example, which is part of my current research. These a 6 page pdf are priced at $10 a page. The entire purpose of these articles are actually to inform people, not to see how much a corporation can gauge a university for money. Which is gouging a student who is getting their tuition on debt, furthering the cycle of debt.
Public servants aren't really judged well, except I would argue scientists. As I have said we have developed standards to prove research output, there is an entire scientific field on this and it is the role of research administrators to quantify the data through scientometrics.
You should try reading before posting. A 'pleb' doesn't create legislation. The OPC literally formats a document, they do fuck all in the overall process.