Universal Basic Income is inevitable and necessary
Universal Basic Income is inevitable and necessary
Luis Williams
Christian Torres
>necessary
or what? the lazy die off?
>same money
>the weak perish
win/win
Mason Walker
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Oliver Diaz
We wuz ants n' shiet.
Now gimme gibs.
John Bell
>Australian population is ~24 000 000
>GDP is 1 700 000 000 000 AUD
>meaning by taking every single piece of property and every single penny Australian government and its citizens own, it would be able to give everyone 70 000 AUD once a year
>which is approximately 3 months worth of their current minimum wage
>bu-but muh robots will make it necessary
yeah sure
Aaron Evans
Most people would rather work than stay at home here
Benjamin Lewis
unsure as to what the fuck you are implying here. Are you saying 70k is 3 months worth of work at minimum wage? If so, you are completely dead wrong. Where I live (mostly rural area) 50-70k is considered pretty good pay for a FULL YEAR of FULL TIME work.
Lucas Russell
Basic income = everyone gets some money = the richest makes the poorest higher to middle and the richest poorermtonthe middle and the middle stays there, in this system everyone gets equal amount of money and no special handouts, those who work gets more and those who dont gets less. Its just fair really
Chase Rodriguez
No they fucking wouldn't. I used to work 70 hours a week driving a truck, do you honestly think anybody would do that shit for free? Fuck off kid.
Kayden Evans
yah because they get paid you dumb cuck
I too hate sitting around and doing nothing when I could be working
BECAUSE I GET PAID
Jason Rogers
>immigration would have to get more selective, everyone cant ride the money train
seems like a good idea
Ian Clark
just make everything free, commie
Aaron Williams
Your speaking to some whose never worked in his life
Xavier Butler
>driving a truck
That's literally automatizable
Jacob Young
Necessary for nigger overpopulation
Aiden Reed
Full blown socialism is almost inevitable with automation in the future (and yes it will get to that point, brainlets)
Cooper Wood
No. Good lord, no. Long before we reach that point, the non-essential human beings will be exterminated by slaughterbots.
Gavin Butler
Free money for everyone? What could go wrong with such a simple idea.
And to think people lived in such ignorant darkness for so long when the solution was so simple.
Liam Watson
Threadly reminder that UBI is the epitome of r-selection and r-selection is cancer to civilization.
Resources are not and will never be free.
Isaiah King
I can't even begin to reason with this level of idiocy.
Humans are not equal, never have been and never will be. Effort and hard work should be rewarded.
Liam Cooper
UBI only makes sense if you can control prices. Oh look, you just invented communism.
Evan Young
You're out of your fucking mind if you think UBI in the United States will be a thing. You think that these companies are going to hand over any of their shekels that aren't a tax write-off? There's a reason why K street exists in Washington D.C.
Xavier Ross
>Its just fair really
It will never work. The rich will kill everyone before they let their station fall to the rabble
Zachary Sanders
Would rather can Civilization and return to stone age than have UBI
Isaac Collins
If there isn't enough work, there should just be fewer humans living on this planet.
It would be better for everyone - for the humans who remain, the animals, the environment...
Sterilize the unskilled people already.
Samuel Young
communist has both UBI and UFL, universal basic income and universal forced labour
Aiden Thomas
Me thinks he moved a decimal at the end there.
Oliver Collins
>You're out of your fucking mind if you think UBI in the United States will be a thing.
Nigger user, approximately 50% of all US LABOR can be automated right now. These companies will become more profitable than you can imagine, and yes, even while being taxed for UBI. You don't have to pay robots shit and they can work 24/7. But the corporations can't be profitable if no one has money to buy their shit, hence universal basic income. I wrote a 15 page report on this last semester. We're fucked bud.
Dylan Lopez
Post some details on it, I'm curious about this 50% statistic, that's a new one.
Henry Bailey
Only socialist commie lazy scum loves that shit
Ayden Ramirez
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Jace Gutierrez
Slide Thread. SAGE
Bentley Jenkins
kill yourself shill rat
Ian Lewis
It suddenly occurs to me that most of the federal, and state government incentives, such as low tax rates, or breaks are given under the guise that they attract employers to create jobs. If they are no longer doing that, then these tax breaks should logically disappear, and tax rates should rise, as corporations who automate are no longer providing a benefit to the community.
Noah Brooks
>Post some details on it
"in 1998 the US economy logged approximately 194 billion hours worked. By 2013, productivity had increased by an average of 42%. However, the economy logged the same number of hours worked as it had 15 years ago, in 1998. With a sustained population, these numbers wouldn’t at all be alarming. But the national population grew by 40 million people. This statistic is put into further perspective by the fact that the US economy requires the creation of an average 150,000 new jobs each month to keep up with population growth (Ford, A.M.S. Summit)"
"the authors examined 702 detailed occupations for risk. Based on their research, they concluded that 47% of total US employment is rated as 'high risk' for automation"
oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk
"The year 1999 was the peak year for the real (inflation-adjusted) income of the median American household. It reached $54,932 that year, but then started falling. By 2011, it had fallen nearly 10 percent to $50,054, even as overall GDP hit a record high. In particular, wages of unskilled workers in the United States and other advanced countries have trended downward. Meanwhile, for the first time since before the Great Depression, over half the total income in the United States went to the top 10 percent of Americans in 2012. The top 1 percent earned over 22 percent of total U.S. income, more than doubling their share since the early 1980’s. The share of income going to the top hundredth of one percent of Americans, a few thousand people with annual incomes over $11 million, is now at 5.5 percent, after increasing more between 2011 and 2012 than any year since 1927–28."
Brody Torres
>(continued)
"The complexity for minimum component costs has increased at a rate of roughly a factor of two per year. . . . Certainly over the short term this rate can be expected to continue, if not to increase. Over the longer term, the rate of increase is a bit more uncertain, although there is no reason to believe it will not remain nearly constant for at least ten years. This means that for every year that passed, the amount of computing power you could buy for $1 increased twofold. (Moore's Law)"
>Brynjolfsson, Erik and Andrew Mcafeeb. The Second Machine Age. W.W. Norton & Co, 2014
"basing their research on available automation technology, MGI’s findings suggest that 45% of the activities which laborers are paid to perform can be automated, currently. These projections represent $2 trillion in annual US labor."
>mckinsey.com
“On January 2, 2010, the Washington Post reported that the first decade of the twenty-first century resulted in the creation of no new jobs. Zero. This hasn’t been true of any decade since the Great Depression; indeed, there has never been a postwar decade that produced less than a 20 percent increase in the number of available jobs. Even the 1970s, a decade associated with stagflation and an energy crisis, generated a 27 percent increase in jobs”
“The top 5 percent of households are currently responsible for nearly 40 percent of spending, and that trend toward increased concentration at the top seems almost certain to continue. Jobs remain the primary mechanism by which purchasing power gets into the hands of consumers. If that mechanism continues to erode, we will face the prospect of having too few viable consumers to continue driving economic growth in our mass-market economy.”
Ford, Martin. Rise of the Robots. Basic, 2015
Jacob Torres
>or the first time since before the Great Depression, over half the total income in the United States went to the top 10 percent of Americans in 2012. The top 1 percent earned over 22 percent of total U.S. income, more than doubling their share since the early 1980’s
Gee I wonder how could this happen..
Luis Edwards
>the first decade of the twenty-first century resulted in the creation of no new jobs. Zero. This hasn’t been true of any decade since the Great Depression; indeed, there has never been a postwar decade that produced less than a 20 percent increase in the number of available jobs. Even the 1970s, a decade associated with stagflation and an energy crisis, generated a 27 percent increase in jobs”
Reducing laboral hours per worker and ubi seem like gomunism here..
Carson Morris
>Reducing laboral hours per worker and ubi seem like gomunism here..
"Universal basic income is basically just a state distributed payment, not dissimilar to welfare. In a capitalist system such as the U.S., this works theoretically by having the state tax businesses which are now free from the cost of human capital, and transferring that wealth to the structurally unemployed. This is possible because the benefits of automation to entrepreneurs largely outweigh the potential costs incurred under universal basic income."
"To institute this system, a business automation index would determine how much automation a company utilizes corresponding to its income, in turn determining the tax rate. Then, a national automation index would take data from businesses around the country to determine the national level of automation, thus determining the universal basic income."
>youtube.com
Charles Jones
I don't think the new germans would want to work,.
Liam White
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Ethan Gray
>what are repletes
>what are guards
>what is viable colony size
>what are cheater morphs
>what is pheromon disruption in queenless colonies
seriously some scientists should not research ants.