Was it true that Russia was build by German aristocracy?

Was it true that Russia was build by German aristocracy, or is it typical Krautnigger bullshit?

Explain pls.

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No. It is true that Peter the Great invited a lot of Germans to Russia to work and teach modern technology. it is also true that German aristocratic families intermarried with Russian ones and that the Romanovs were almost totally German/English/Danish by the time of Nicholas II. But as for Russia being built by German Aristocrats, no. The country was relatively backward until the end of the 19th Century when industry started sprining up. A lot of it from German, but more from French companies investing here.

Thank you for responding. Germans based their whole ideology on Eastern Lebensraun on the basis that ALL of lands between Oder and Ural have been build and 'civilized' by them. Hitler spoke about that numerous times. He thought that the sole reason for existance of Russian state was 'establishing it by German minority among sub-human race'.

Kek why did he say "Europe and the Balkans"

Is it not part of Europe

>Germanic princess Catherine was appalled by German husband antagonistically low opinion of Russians and his desire to germanize the Slavic country.
>Catherine continued Peter the Great's policy of germanization
>introduced Franko-Germanic dress to his court and requiring courtiers, state officials, and the military to shave their beards and adopt germanic clothing styles.
>policy that Germanic customs were superior to Russian traditions
>commanded all of his courtiers and officials to cut off their long beards—causing his Boyars, who were very fond of their beards, great upsetand wear germanic clothing.
>before Peter the great, ballet and other germanic culture/arts in Russia was nonexistent
>Pushkin reformed "inferior" Russian language by introducing Franco-German words and traits

major goal of Peter's reform was reducing the influence of the Boyars, Russia's elite nobility, who stressed Slavic supremacy and opposed germanic influence

Peter saw slavs as backwards and obstacles standing in the way of germanization. He specifically targeted the boyars with numerous taxes and obligatory services, including a tax on beards.

Another Peter decree in 1713 established Landrats (from the German word for "national council"). Russian provinces were modeled on the Swedish system of provinces,

Peter's anti-Slav/Boyar reforms culminated in 1722 with the creation of the Table of Ranks. A new generation of technocrats soon supplanted the Boyar class and dominated the civil service in Russia.

Peter's germanization monopolized certain strategic industries, such as salt, vodka, oak, and tar. Peter also taxed many Slavic-Russian cultural customs ie bathing, fishing, beekeeping, and wearing beards

Peter changed the date of the celebration of the Slavic new year from 1 Sept to germanic 1 Jan

Peter's reign deepened the subjugation of slav serfs to the will of mainly tatar-germanic landowners.
Peter firmly enforced class divisions which continued to oppress the slavic majority

Damn. Well ironically all that Kraut aristocracy got purged during Red Revolution (also organized and financed by Prussians) so...

It is, Geographically. Everything between Portugalia's coast and Ural mountains is Europe.

Makhno revolted against the Germanic ruling elite:
>At the age of 11 Makhno began working as an ox drover on the Janzen estate in Silberfeld. Here he began to develop a hatred for the German ruling classes. In his memoirs he writes: "At this time I began to experience anger, envy and even hatred towards the landowner [Janzen] and especially towards his children - those young slackers who often strolled past me sleek and healthy, well-dressed, well-groomed and scented; while I was filthy, dressed in rags, barefoot, and reeked of manure from cleaning the calves' barn."[17] Makhno also worked at the Mennonite owned Kroeger plant in Gulyai-Polye.

>Throughout the civil war, Mahkno and his troops raided many German and Mennonite colonies and estates in the Katerynoslav Oblast. The larger rural landholdings of Mennonites were prominent targets due to their wealth and proximity to Gulyai-Polye.[18] The Schönfeld colony, located adjacent to the Huliaipole area, was unique in that it consisted predominantly of Mennonite estate settlements across an expansive area. Mennonite colonies were targeted by Makhno because, as owners of prosperous farms and estates, they were considered kulaks - wealthy farmers that exploited the labour of the surrounding, mostly Ukrainian, peasantry. Ukrainians were traditionally hired by wealthy Mennonites as house servants and farmhands
literally Germans ruled over eastern Europe
they were the aristocracy, the tsars, the landowners, the factory owners
the natives were the oppressed slaves/serfs
Ethnic Germans and Mennonites themselves, having been stripped of their wealth and property during the revolution. Some Mennonites accompanied punitive detachments against the peasantry, which greatly contributed to the growing bitterness between Germans/Mennonites and Ukrainians.

Nestor Makhno's anarchist army generally targeted Germans/Mennonites because they were thought of as "Kulaks" and an entity generally more advanced and wealthy than the surrounding Ukrainian peasants. The Mennonites Germanic background also served to inflame negative sentiment during the period of revolution. Makhno himself had served as a slave on a Mennonite estate in childhood and harbored negative feelings based on treatment and abuse he received by the Germans while employed there. Hundreds of Mennonites were murdered, robbed, imprisoned and raped during this period, and villages including (and around) Chortitza, Zagradovka and Nikolaipol were damaged and destroyed

It's usually referring to Wilhelm II. getting Lenin out of his exile and giving him a train ride straight to Russia during WW I.

No, the Russian guy under my OP just explained that they did NOT ruled over Eastern Europe, you dumb fuck.

And the one good thing that the Red's did was to purge Russia out of German filth.

>Romania
Emperor Joseph II attempted to revoke german privilege in the late 18th century. His actions were aimed at the political inequality within Transylvania, especially the political strength of the Saxons and the destitute of the natives. Although his actions were ultimately rescinded, many Saxons began to see themselves as being a small minority opposed by nationalist Romanians and Hungarians

this anti-german sentiment was always popular in eastern europe and a natural continuation of the ancient epic genetic struggle for superiority between the germanic and slavic


>Romania ruled by germ dynasties: Hohenzollern,Habsburg
>Bulgaria ruled by germ dynasties Battenberg, Saxe-Coburg, Holstein-Gottorp-Romanov..
>Yugoslavia ruled by germ dynasties: Wittelsbach, Luxemburg, Capetian, Habsburg..
>Russia (Ukraine, Belarus) ruled by germ dynasties: Rurikid dynasty, Holstein-Gottorp-Romanov, Habsburg
>Czechoslovakia ruled by germ dynasties: Luxemburg, Habsburg..
>Hungary ruled by germ dynasties: Luxemburg, Habsburg, Wittelsbach..
>Greece - Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg (Germanic)

Piast belonged to R1b. PhD, Ivan Kozlovsky, an anthropologist from the University of Nicolaus Copernicus, showed recently that explored the remains of the Mazovian Prince Janusz III (1502-1526) indicate clearly on haplogroup R1b

Mieszko I of Poland also submitted to Otto II's overlordship.[7] Henry II, however, was not so fortunate: Otto II imprisoned him under the custody of the Bishop of Utrecht

Wygląda na to, że Piastowie należeli do R1b. Dr hab. Tomasz Kozłowski, antropolog z UMK w Toruniu, ujawnił niedawno, że zbadane szczątki księcia mazowieckiego Janusza III (1502-1526) wskazują jednoznacznie na haplogrupę R1b i że nie było możliwości zanieczyszczenia próbki

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Yes. Lenin was Prussian psyops, they hid him from the Tsar for a time and everything. All to weaken Russia.

Shut the fuck up, you dumb fucktard. Mieszko I was POLISH, not a fucking krautnigger.

Stop talking about the things you have no idea about, La creatura. This thread was intended for Russians only.

Germany colonized Eastern Europe. Most of what was Germany in its heyday was former slavic lands.

>Poland Piast dynasty derived from several noble lines of Germanic Holy Roman Empire
>Poland ruled by germ dynasties: Wettin, Vasa, Piast, Capetian, Habsburg

Osterreich is Eastern Empire
Visterreich should be the name of Germany, France, England
the germans ruled eastern europe (german tsars/aristocrats over russia, poland, bulgaria, romania, czechoslovakia, magna germania) for 2k years
germans ruled over western europe (franks, saxons, vandals)
all the while genociding slavs in the east and celts in the west

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garðaríki
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus'_people
Russia was literally founded by Scandinavians. Even the name is derived from an Old Norse term for "the men who row".

you are the german-tatar mutt. all pure p*lacks are in in Tel Aviv cleaning toilets with their tongues

No, they never colonized it, you fucking cretin.

Krautniggers got anihiulated during WW2, and now are under occupation while being outbreed by Blacks. Good riddance.

No, I am pure Polish you smelly 56% Fucktard.

No, it wasn't. Its a fucking myth you dumb Hohol.

>Frankish kings initiated numerous, yet not always successful, military campaigns to settle eastern slavic lands
>campaigns against Slavs included Wendish Crusade against the Polabian Slavs (or "Wends") of what is now northern and eastern Germany; Livonian Crusade against BaltoSlavs, Latgallians, Selonians

>Armed conflict between the Baltic Finns, Balts, Slavs against their Saxon and Danish intruders to the north and south had been common for several centuries before the crusade.

>The germanic crusaders attacked Pomeranians and other Slavs, despite these people having already been successfully Christianized.

>The Teutonic Order conquerd Orthodox Russia

once the 1st reich germanics conquered they started "inviting" other germanics to colonize conquered territories

>northern crusades against the slavs
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Crusades

After the Northern Crusades against Balto-Slavs, the Germanics quickly came to control all the administrations of government, politics, economics, education and culture of these areas for over 700 years until 1918, despite remaining a minority ethnic group.


In contrast to the Germanic rulers, the ethnic majority, the native Estonians, Latvians, Slavs had restricted rights and privileges and resided mostly in rural areas as serfs, tradesmen, or as servants in urban homes. This was in keeping with the social scheme of things in Imperial Russia, and lasted well into the 19th century, when emancipation from serfdom brought the native peoples new political rights and freedoms that freed the natives from their germanic oppressors.

No, Teutons did not colonized shit, you fucktarded imbecile. They were destroyed, and vassalized by Polish.

And Prussians were Allways Balto-Slavic, not germanic sub-human. Half of Germans were Slavic.

>they were the aristocracy, the tsars, the landowners, the factory owners
The jews started it by killing them .

>And the one good thing that the Red's did was to purge Russia out of German filth.
The 'reds' were the FUCKING JEWS , YOU IDIOT !!!!

It's not a myth, you dumb poolack. It's literally written in the Rus' chronicles.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_Chronicle
And also confirmed by other different sources - Greek, Western, Islamic.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus'_people#Key_sources
And there are archaeological sites in Russia confirming it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timerevo
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarskoye_Gorodishche

Krautniggers are just like Jews.

Fucking backstabbing sub-humans attacking their host country.

No, they were also Russians you fucking cretin. part of Red revolution goal was to take Russia back from German aristocracy back to Slavic hands.

It is a myth, you syupid fucktard. Russia is a Slavic country, not a Kraut country.

Go back to shitting the streets in Donbas.

mgh-bibliothek.de/dokumente/a/a011458.pdf
6367 (859). The Varangians from beyond the sea imposed tribute
upon the Chuds, the Slavs, the Merians, the Ves', and the Krivichians.19
But the Khazars imposed it upon the Polyanians, the Severians, and
the Vyatichians, and collected a white squirrel-skin from each hearth.
6368-6370 (860-862). The tributaries of the Varangians drove them
back beyond the sea and, refusing them further tribute, set out to govern
themselves. There was no law among them, but tribe rose against
tribe. Discord thus ensued among them, and they began to war one
against another. They said to themselves, "Let us seek a prince who
may rule over us and judge us according to the Law." They accordingly
went overseas to the Varangian Russes: these particular Varangians
were known as Russes, just as some are called Swedes, and others Normans,
English, and Gotlanders, for they were thus named. The Chuds,
the Slavs, (20) the Krivichians, and the Ves' then said to the people of
Rus', "Our land is great and rich, but there is no order in it.
Come to rule and reign over us." They thus selected three brothers,
with their kinsfolk, who took with them all the Russes and migrated.
The oldest, Rurik, located himself in Novgorod; the second, Sineus,
at Beloozero; and the third, Truvor, in Izborsk.20 On account of these
Varangians, the disuict of Novgorod became known as the land of Rus'.
The present inhabitants of Novgorod are descended from the
Varangian race, but aforetime they were Slavs.

>hurrrrr fuck the evidence, it's a myth
Did Nestor lie? He wrote the chronicle during Rus' times. Why would he lie about it being founded and ruled by Scandinavian Varangians?

After two years, Sineus and his brother Truvor died, and Rurik
assumed the sole authority. He assigned cities to his followers, Polotsk
to one, Rostov to another, and to another Beloozero. In these cities there
are thus Varangian colonists, but the first settlers were, in Novgorod,
Slavs; in Polotsk, Krivichians; at Beloozero, Ves', in Rostov, Merians;
and in Murom, Muromians. Rurik had dominion over all these districts.
With Rurik there were two men who did not belong to his kin,
but were boyars. They obtained permission to go to Tsar'grad with
their families. They thus sailed down the Dnieper, and in the course
of their journey they saw a small city on a hill. Upon their inquiry as
to whose town it was, they were informed that (21) three brothers,
Kiy, Shchek, and Khoriv, had once bu'ilt the city, but that since their
deaths, their descendants were living there as tributaries of the Khazars.
Askold and Dir remained in the city, and after gathering together many
V arangians, they established their dominion over the country of the
Polyanians at the same time that Rurik was ruling at Novgorod.

6388-6390 (880-882). Oleg set forth, taking with him many warriors
from among the Varangians, the Chuds, the Slavs, the Merians and
all the (23) Krivichians. He thus arrived with his Krivichians before
Smolensk, captured the city, and set up a garrison there. Thence
he went on and captured Lyubech, where he also set up a garrison.
He then came to the hills of Kiev, and saw how Askold and
Dir reigned there. He hid his warriors in the boats, left some others
behind, and went forward himself bearing the child Igor'. He thus
came to the foot of the Hungarian hill,23 and after concealing his
troops, he sent messengers to Askold and Dir, representing himself
as a stranger on his way to Greece on an errand for Oleg and for Igor',
the prince's son, and requesting that they should come forth to greet
them as members of their race. Askold and Dir straightway came forth.
Then all the soldiery jumped out of the boats, and Oleg said to Askold
and Dir, "You are not princes nor even of princely stock, but I am of
princely birth." Igor' was then brought forward, and Oleg announced
that he was the son of Rurik. They killed Askold and Dir, and after
carrying them to the hill, they buried them there, on the hill now
known as Hungarian, where the castle of Ol'ma now stands. Over that
tomb Ol'ma built a church dedicated to St. Nicholas, but Dir's tomb
is behind St. Irene's.24 Oleg set himself up as prince in Kiev, and
declared that it should be the mother of Russian cities. The Varangians,
Slavs, and others who accompanied him, were called Russes.
Oleg began to build stockaded towns, and (24) imposed tribute on the
Slavs, the Krivichians, and the Merians. He commanded that Novgorod
should pay the Varangians tribute to the amount of 300 grivny
a year for the preservation of peace.25 This tribute was paid to the
Varangians until the death of Yaroslav.

you should read more about those crusades and how germans found out that Stetin for example was christianized earlier by Poles.

and you are probably talking about this
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magdeburg_rights

even though you obviously have no idea what are you talking about

all the (23) Krivichians. He thus arrived with his Krivichians before
Smolensk, captured the city, and set up a garrison there. Thence
he went on and captured Lyubech, where he also set up a garrison.
He then came to the hills of Kiev, and saw how Askold and
Dir reigned there. He hid his warriors in the boats, left some others
behind, and went forward himself bearing the child Igor'. He thus
came to the foot of the Hungarian hill,23 and after concealing his
troops, he sent messengers to Askold and Dir, representing himself
as a stranger on his way to Greece on an errand for Oleg and for Igor',
the prince's son, and requesting that they should come forth to greet
them as members of their race. Askold and Dir straightway came forth.
Then all the soldiery jumped out of the boats, and Oleg said to Askold
and Dir, "You are not princes nor even of princely stock, but I am of
princely birth." Igor' was then brought forward, and Oleg announced
that he was the son of Rurik. They killed Askold and Dir, and after
carrying them to the hill, they buried them there, on the hill now
known as Hungarian, where the castle of Ol'ma now stands. Over that
tomb Ol'ma built a church dedicated to St. Nicholas, but Dir's tomb
is behind St. Irene's.24 Oleg set himself up as prince in Kiev, and
declared that it should be the mother of Russian cities. The Varangians,
Slavs, and others who accompanied him, were called Russes.
Oleg began to build stockaded towns, and (24) imposed tribute on the
Slavs, the Krivichians, and the Merians. He commanded that Novgorod
should pay the Varangians tribute to the amount of 300 grivny
a year for the preservation of peace.25 This tribute was paid to the
Varangians until the death of Yaroslav.

>Europe and the Balkans

Nice copy pasta, but still IT IS a fucking myth, that Krautniggers tried to push in the late 30's.

what a retard...

red revolution only goal was to REMOVE aristocracy and replace it with Bolshevik Politburo

Russia was built by Germanic people, specifically Scandinavian Whites also know as Vikings or as they also referred to themselves as "the Rus" under leadership of a Danish king.
Hitler wanted reconquer the russian territory for the Germanic Rus people as the jewish communist had subverted and destroyed the the Russian Empire, killing millions of Rus and as such he did not recognize them as legit rulers.

Yes it was you fucking dumb polak piece of shit. I know concepts outside of polska stronk are difficult for you but Russia was most certainly founded by Vikings who went inland. The rus were Vikings.

Coming from a polak

What a fucking moron. There were not many Russians among bolshevik leadership. They were jews and all kinds of minorities like Georgians, Armenians, even Balts. And jews lead the sparcacist revolution in Germany, too.
And even among common Russians bolsheviks weren't as popular as today commies claim. Many fought them. Bolsheviks had to use a lot of mercs like Hungarians, Latvians and even fucking chinks. And they had a lot of financial support from western countries. They were able to win only because Russia was in the very weak position, right in the middle of WW1 and political crisis.
Just kys, you brainwashed commie scum.

Better that that Germanic yoke.

ARE YOU FUCKING DUMB??? This is the translation of PRIMARY CHRONICLE, written in Rus' times. What does it have to do with krauts and late 30's?
So did Nestor lie? Or is this chronicle a complete falsification? And why is origin of Rus' people confirmed by other unrelated sources? As I said - Western, Greek and Islamic.

No, Russia was build by Slavic people, not Germnigger filth.

I think this is a larping Jew trying to divide and shill. I know polaks are dumb but this goes to another level

No, it was not you stupid 56% fucktard. Russia was founded by Slavic people.

This is a falsification, Germans did not fund Russia, you stupid fuck.

You're pretty stupid.

No, fuck off.

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Fucking stormfag shills. Fuck. Off.

yeah we used to be big time friends with the russians then (((they))) got between us
also germans invented communism, wurst idea ever

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>No, they were also Russians you fucking cretin. part of Red revolution goal was to take Russia back from German aristocracy back to Slavic hands.

That's actually pretty accurate, but it's more that Jewish Commies used impoverished Slavic majority to get rid of the Germanic aristocracy and then after replacing them just proceeded to abuse, kill and exterminate Slavic Russians. That's why now us Slavs should now be smart and not let ourselves be tricked by any elite oligarchies trying to use us for their power games.

Exactly.

It is a larping Jew. You polaks allowed the jews to live among you the longest in Europe. You’re just a bunch of Jew tools. I like all Slavs except for polaks. Your filthy race should just disappear

You are making a mistake. As Slavs and Germanics both place in the branch of Indo-Europeans once called Aryans (after the biblical Medes who may or may not in fact have been actual Persians), German racialists considered Slavs a degenerated form of the predecessor race (you as a Pole will certainly have heard about Samartians?) whom they actually credited with civilising those parts. In the middle ages it briefly caused major conflicts due to your King Boleslav getting rebelled against during what the HRE considered vital peace talks for the region (it coincided with the Investiture Controversy and the Church is not utterly innocent in how that turned out). Hitler for his part saw all this reflected in the relative successes of Peter's reforms (see ) among other things and the fairly recent collapse of the Russian Empire who, as was said before, had just driven out the Germanic or quasi-Germanic elites that had carried said progress forward - which Himmler then took to extremes by declaring it Prussian destiny to rule all of that Remember that Himmler had almost complete control over what the SS did, and the Wehrmacht did not have authority over the SS, and while that doesn't make it better it might probably contribute to a more complete understanding of how things got as far as they went.

Inferior race. This is the quote you and the kikes use out of context.

"By handing Russia to Bolshevism, it robbed the Russian nation of that intelligentsia which previously brought about and guaranteed its existence as a state. For the organization of a Russian state formation was not the result of the political abilities of the Slavs in Russia, but only a wonderful example of the state-forming efficacity of the German element in an inferior race. Numerous mighty empires on earth have been created in this way. Lower nations led by Germanic organizers and overlords have more than once grown to be mighty state formations and have endured as long as the racial nucleus of the creative state race maintained itself. For centuries Russia drew nourishment from this Germanic nucleus of its upper leading strata. Today it can be regarded as almost totally exterminated and extinguished. It has been replaced by the Jew. Impossible as it is for the Russian by himself to shake off the yoke of the Jew by his own resources, it is equally impossible for the Jew to maintain the mighty empire forever. He himself is no element of organization, but a ferment of decomposition."

Obviously it's harsh, but it's far less harsh than what was said by American presidents about fellow European ethnic groups. Hitler called Russians inferior, not subhuman. Subhumans "exist in every people as a leavening agent" .. and "can be found in all tribes" .. according to Himmler and Goebbels.

Yes, partially. Same with Poland.

this and the vikings set up the russian state in the first place

Nicholas II. was more German than Russian. Of his 16 great great grandparents 13 were German, 2 were Danish, 1 was Paul I. who was still only like 1/4 Russian.

I'd rather guess you being a Jew with that divisive rhetoric getting Slaves to hate each other.
Poles are OK. They at the moment are a good example of a Slavic country developing in a good direction and serve as a good example for other Slavs.

> I think this is a larping Jew trying to divide and shill. I know polaks are dumb but this goes to another level

He's definitely a jewish shill.

They stand out like sore thumb.. pic related.

No, its not out of context. Its the same thing.

And it was false, Slavic people build their nations completely by themselves, and curbstomped Krauts in WW2. Nowaays Russia is also much more influential and militairly powerfull than Krautniggers so...

Shitler was wrong, and half of your country is Slavic. There is NO Germanic master race, and Slavs build their countries by themselves.

You are arguing the semantic difference between inferior and subhuman, a totally meaningless discussion when the terms are used interchangeably universally.

Show me where in Mein Kampf. All Hitler says is that Germany imports 1/3rd of its food and needed chromium, tungsten, oil, etc. so Russia/Ukraine would need to be brought into the German sphere for Germans to survive.

The only colonization mentioned outside of pre-WWI boundaries was Hitler making the case that Germans should protect the eastern flank of Europe by diverting the Aral Sea and settling the Russian desert. Reversing the flow of that major river I can't remember. Stalin drove out the Turkic tribes and did this half-assedly in the 1940's and 1950's.

Infiltration, subversion and destruction of Host societies. But hey, its okay when krautniggers do it!

Inferior is not the same as subhuman. I believe Indians and Arabs are inferior to Europeans but I wouldn't consider them subhuman. I'm an amateur historian and we were talking about WWII. I don't care if you think Russia is more powerful than Germany in 2018 it's irrelevant.

Synthesis of Germanic, Slavic and Greco-Byzantine elements, sure.

Krauts are allways looking to ''expand'' their flank into the east, and we keep repelling this filth.

>so Russia/Ukraine would need to be brought into the German sphere for Germans to survive.

Oh wait. They didn't and yet Germany survived. Odd that.

Nigga what? People start calling shit "Slavic" after you're done infesting it, but your part of Prussia's -carcass- still rocks better infrastructure than the whole East of your hole and that's even after your fellow Slavs got done with -that-. Come back when the Jew stops renting your women out in our cities.

It's always funny to read how deep the indoctrination of the eternal polak runs - desperate to create a meme version of history where he can substantiate his claim, whe all he really is, is a fake slav who fled from the mongols and was allowed to settle in thousands of year old germanic clay.

wasn't it the Dutch and not the Germans ?

Anglo-Saxons put Celts on every corner of the globe. Germanic dynasties in Russia built Russia from a small northern wasteland into what it once was. I could continue but it's controversial. Hitler explains in this speech.

youtube.com/watch?v=rqu3bndYiYg

from wiki and as I recall from my history class:
"Thanks to the mediation of Nicolaes Witsen, mayor of Amsterdam and expert on Russia, the Tsar was given the opportunity to gain practical experience in the largest shipyard in the world, belonging to the Dutch East India Company, for a period of four months. The Tsar helped with the construction of an East Indiaman especially laid down for him: Peter and Paul. During his stay the Tsar engaged many skilled workers such as builders of locks, fortresses, shipwrights, and seamen—including Cornelis Cruys, a vice-admiral who became, under Franz Lefort, the Tsar's advisor in maritime affairs. Peter later put his knowledge of shipbuilding to use in helping build Russia's navy.[14]"

>Germany survived
The jury is still out on that one.

If you were being honest you'd just acknowledge it. It's clear Poles are inferior to Germans. That doesn't make Poles any less European and certainly doesn't make the subhuman.

In most of our countries we've replaced our former largely German/Norman/Frankish aristocracy with the Jew. It's suicidal. I want the old ones back.

Slavs hate each other without Jewish tricks. But I harbor no I’ll will to Slavs. But you must admit that the poles are the real niggers of europe.

Poles should and must not exist. Germanbros take back Preußen please. I love your country and language. Don’t let it fall to the fuckin Jews.

Ill will

The Germans today are not the same Germans as the Reich. They were bombed divided and broken. Now they are being bred out and replaced.

Modern agricultural technology, the decolonization movement and free trade makes irredentism irrelevant. If Germans get above replacement birthrates again they can carve out their own sections of Africa or South America.

No, you krautnigger. Slavs did not fleed from anyone, and that land was allways ours. Germanic filth did not took it away from us.

One could say the same about Americans. I haven't gone full blackpill yet though.

Shut the fuck up, Poland in the east has superior infrastructure to Germnigger west part.

No, Russia was build by the Russians, not by Krautniggers.

No, Poles are not in any fuckign way inferior to murderous Krautniggers, whos only reason for prosperity is WW2 plunder, and Marshall Plann.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rurik_dynasty

Good, they fucking deserve it for killing 30 million Slavic people in General plan Ost.

You know he will not admitt that, because that could disturb his Germ-centric narrative.

>Marshall Plann
$1b was loaned to Germany at interest. Allies enslaved millions of Germans after the war and stole untold billions in industrial equipment and untold billions in technology.

Fucking shit man, are you embarrasing us on purpose ?

>General plan Ost.
Why don't you explain it for us, and what proof exists. I hope you're not one of those 70IQ niggers that just repeats judaeo-soviet propaganda phrases.

Didn't Poles ethnically cleanse millions of Germans from their ancestral lands after WWII? Germans didn't even intern you all until 1942 and fed you red up until 1945.

>fed you red
not sure what I was going for here.. autism

What is Operation Birddog? US build entire german economy after WW2. And Krautniggers stols Trillions from Eastern Europe in WW2. Face it, Germany is only prosperous because of what Kraut robbed and stole in WW2.

What do you mean, I speak about the facts.

No.

You eastern europeans caring so much about krautniggers is funny. If Hitler had won by now you're life, if you did exist in the first place, wouldn't be different either way. And so what if you didn't exist, what's the big deal about that? You'd never know about it anyway. As if all our shitlives are relevant today. They aren't.
Fact is, 30 years after the German victory, slavs would be no more as a group. The good ones would have been germanized, the others sterilized, the others used as labor, and others deported. What is 30 years on the grand total of human history? It is insignificant. Why did America become the world power? Because they genocided the Indians. Does anybody give a fuck today? No, because indians barely contributed anything. If Slavs as an identity would have stopped existing literally nobody would have gived 2 shits. Russia is a shithole today. Eastern Europe is less of a shithole, but still mostly shit. And in the long run all of you are insignificant.

Hitler was an amazing opportunity for human evolution. It would have SHOT the world into complete unprecedented advancement. Did it all have to be wasted so that Hans today has the freedom to fuck niggers and Ivan to get drunk, and so that instead of a 50% european world we can have a 5% european world as we are heading to now? You selfish bastards...

Is Hohol an autistic way to say Hohenzollern or what?