Opinion Poll on AR-15's and Bump Stocks
Opinion Poll on AR-15's and Bump Stocks
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Assault rifle 15's should not be available to anyone besides the military.
Or at least they should limit the clip size
you should have to have bump stocks registered w/ serial number and background check.
hahaha retard
a fucking leaf
>clip
neck yourself
I think bump stocks are a pointless novelty for innawoods spray n pray simulation. They're pretty much useless in any sort of real-world scenario. Even during a mass shooting, I can't imagine a bump stock would give you a tactical advantage. Poor accuracy, plus you have to reload a lot sooner, giving anyone who's not an idiot a window of time to take you down.
AR-15s typically hold 30 rounds. If you spray them out at 5 per second, you'll be out of ammo in 6 seconds and forced to drop your mag and reload. Anyone within 20 feet of you can take advantage of that time to tackle you.
Automatic fire is good for suppressing fire. It's good for spray n pray if you're freaking the fuck out. But it's really a good way to waste ammo and get yourself killed otherwise. That said, bump stocks shouldn't be banned because that's all they are. A novelty. Rate of fire isn't really that big of a deal. Steven Paddock was shooting 5-6 rounds per second at some points and you could hear how many misses he was getting. He honestly could have killed more people if he'd taken his time.
every american citizen should be required to carry an AR-15 at all times.
Just bought a AR-15 lower receiver yesterday for $75. Ordering all the other parts to my house through the mail with no background check as we speak.
I'll probably have it up and running in the next week or two.
I’m just gonna day it. That sight is stupid and you will never be able to get a good stockweld.
>Assault rifle 15
Can't tell if you are trolling or not. You are a leaf so I always have to assume full retard.
AR stands for Armalite, the company that originally designed the AR-15. Here is a shotgun they made, the AR-17.
Is this sporting shotgun AR-17 an assault rifle too?
if civilians can't own assault rifles, then we can't delegate authority to our government to have assault rifles. you don't understand that simple concept because you're chattel property of your monarch and have no rights.
What the fuck does assault rifle even mean it's not even the name for a real gun type
an assault rifle is defined by law as military grade select fire. armalites aren't assault rifles, they're sporting rifles.
Always a leaf shill.
thank you
Oh the AR in AR15 stands for "Assault Rifle"?
I always thought it meant "Adolfs Revenge".
You can bump fire with your finger. You can't ban plastic.
My opinion is that it's shit I'm not allowed to have one, can't they at least make a shitty 1 shot version for auscucklia
You can’t order a lower to your house, fuckin’ loser. The lower is the “firearm” and must be sent to an FFL, where you must go through a standard NICS BGC before the transaction is complete.
I don't give a fuck about bumpstocks; they're meme-tier garbage. However, allowing them to be banned would allow for a further slipping down the slope. It's used as a precedent to then ban collapsible stocks, shoulder-things-that-go-up, muzzle brakes, 30rd mags, etc.
"but goy, you allowed us to ban X so what's your reason against Y and Z?"
Assault Rifle 15?
So what's an M16?
Musket [17]16?
>80% lower
Fucking retard.
nice reading comprehension
Bump stocks are range toys. You would actually want you typical turdstain mass shooter to use those. Go through a mag real fucking quick and have no idea where you're shooting.
Those calling for bans on assault rifles are either retarded or actively playing the public like a fiddle.
Answer me this: why should I disarm myself if police officers and federal agencies refuse to protect me or mine and are legally there SOLELY to enforce the law? It is on me to protect myself, yet I am to do so with what? A Glock modified to be bolt-action? Fuck off.
I love the idea of gun control when this school shooting had FOUR DEPUTIES on-site but they all refused to move in and do anything.
Yeah, these are the guys I should trust to protect my life after I give up the ability to protect my own.
We absolutely should ban assault rifles, starting tomorrow. An executive order needs to be put into effect IMMEDIATELY, all of congress should approve it.
Then when we go into stores, we will find that not a single gun has been taken off the shelves. The leftists will say "What is going on here? Didn't you get the news? Assault rifles have been banned. You need to take those AR-15s off the shelves!" The store owners will say "Yes, an assault rifle ban has been implemented, I received the memo. Unfortunately, I did not have any assault rifles for sale, nor have I for over two decades. Oh, wait, you don't think an AR-15 is an assault rifle do you? You don't think AR stands for "assault-rifle", right? Oh man, what a crazy mix up haha! No, AR stands for Armalite, the original producer of the AR-15. They are not assault rifles as they are not military grade select fire rifles. Sorry, by law, I am allowed to keep selling and possessing AR-15's."
How much does an assault rifle 15 cost and how many bullets fit in the clips?
Keep in mind, a ban on bumpfire stocks is a step closer toward banning binary triggers. I personally think the bumpfire stock itself is gimmicky.
I vote no ban on both.
Literally the only reason to ban bumpstocks is to appease the people calling for "doing something! ANYTHING! We can't just let them keep murdering our children!"
Which is a bullshit slippery slope that we should not begin sliding down. You do not make policies simply to appease emotional idiots.
Doesn't that imply that private citizens should be able to own WMDs? I'm all for the right to bear arms, but that's not a viable avenue of defence for it
AR, AK and so on I like them all. They have their own nice aesthetics.
Exactly my point. They didn't catch the Cuban in the school. He was leaving when police got him. Those four shirked their duty, and 17 died because of that. Lynch 'em. They, their worthless PD, and their "sheriff" ought to be the ones demonized on TV, not the NRA, AR-15s, or gun owners. DWS is involved as well. Holy fucking shit.
Shit ARs go new for $300+. That's real dollars, not your rupees. Clips? What a maroon. Standard capacity magazines hold 30, but you can fins, 5, 10 , 15 20, 40, 60, and up as well. Though, the higher the capacity, the more failures to feed you get.
Don't fuck with my binary triggers!
True WMDs are not viable for viable for civil warfare, The use of such would definitely bring in foreign militaries. Not a situation the US government could handle effectively.
Agreed. And the officer that was stationed at the school cowered like a fucking pussy, and all he's getting is a slap on the wrist and getting an early retirement. He'll still get all his typical benefits and shit too.
How much do the clips cost
He gets more protection than those he was supposed to protect? May his death be slow and painful, and may he be forgotten. Goddamned accomplice.
Clips are cheap. you can get those for $5-10 depending on quality. Oh, you mean AR-15 magazines? Retail is like $12-18 for 5-40 rounds. Drums go 0-100 real fuckin quick.
Drake sucks
Thanks for proving you are full retard.
I bought the lower through a FFL transfer and had a background check. Learn to read.
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Too bad Canadians own a fuck ton of em.
this is a pretty shitty poll, as it only represents one option for right leaning people.
you should have added
>I am for repealing the NFA. allowing domestic manufacture, import, and sale of automatic firearms.
and
>I am for government issue of an automatic firearm to every military personal trained to operate an automatic weapon upon discharge from the military.
Leave the Second Amendment alone!
"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!"
If you faggots want to get rid of a Constitutional Amendment, then Repeal The 22nd!
President-For-Life Trump!
I like the sound of that!
>the mail with no background check as we speak.
Liar and a felon.
Nice.
>sporting rifles
So why can I hunt coyotes with em.
Only the lower needs a background check. Every single other part of the gun can be mail ordered.
See
>I am against banning both
should be
>I am against banning either
unless you meant to be redundant.
probably an 80%
>with no background check as we speak.
Liar.
I conceded then.
I forgot people actually buy incomplete lowers.
It is shocking this many people have such low reading comprehension.
Learn to read you fucking idiot.
> Ordering all the other parts to my house through the mail with no background check as we speak.
ALL
THE
OTHER
PARTS
So how do you reconcile the lack of viability of civilian WMDs and the logic of having the right to own in order to give the government the right to own? Is there a reconciliation to be had there? Or do we need to reformulate how we view the right to bare arms?
ive seen it more than once.
I wont believe lightning would strike twice on this kind of retardation so I think its a troll.
Neither should be banned.
It's not even up for debate.
Fuck off.
Banning bump stocks would be useless, you don't need one to bumpfire.
AR-15 are fine, but I don't see why bump stocks shouldn't be treated the same as any other modification to a semi-auto to make it behave as a full auto (such as grinding down a firing pin), which is very illegal. Honestly kind of surprised that they hadn't been banned already, they're pretty clearly a loophole.
bump stocks are a single action.
you have to actuate the gun every time you intend it to fire.
other modifications that "re-manufacture a gun to be automatic" change the action from single action to automatic.
attacking bumpfire stocks is an attack on all semi-automatic weapons.
we should be repealing the nfa.
2A was originally meant to keep the populace as armed as the government (through the governors, like serfs). That is what gives your voice reason to be heard an respected, not this new age "Respect me because I'm a _." None of that. 2A means it's "Respect me and us because we're armed and can overthrow you one way or another. Let's try voting and legislation first."
Thus, we should be able to buy tanks, subs, attack helicpters, jets, A-10 BRRRTs, and nukes. My statement was simply that WMDs are not a path that our government would take on us. IF it's being logical.
I'd be willing to write into law a limitation on 2a that ruled out chemical biological and nuclear weapons.
Only if the US military and "intelligence" agency disarms itself of those first. World's better off without thos terrible weapons, but you can't uninvent fire.
You can bump fire without any modification to the gun. Bump stocks just make it easier. Just by holding the gun a certain way you can bump fire. Video related.
youtube.com
You are trying to turn people holding the gun a certain way into a felony crime.
Does the law make any distinction between whether the trigger actually has to be depressed between shots, or does it only care about the rate of fire?
And yeah, can bump fire without a stock designed for it. But a stock is a modification to the gun that makes it easier. One is something you could never regulate, another is an accessory that you could make a fair argument for the government controlling the sale of.
For what it's worth, I wouldn't necessarily be against re-evaluating the Hughes Amendment and getting rid of the restrictions on full autos either. I'm just looking at bump stocks in the context of the existing laws. If you're going to say that full autos are regulated, don't see why a device that allows a semi-auto to behave as a full auto shouldn't be regulated as well. Hell, even the NRA has said as much.
the law doesnt care about rate of fire.
it doesnt even say that the trigger needs to be depressed to fire.
only that it is single action (ie, 1 action 1 bullet)
there are for instance things like crank triggers, and binary triggers which are totally legal. you must do something every time you fire a bullet.
Law doesn't care about the rate of fire. Put a match trigger, light load your casings, and grease the hell out of your gun, and you could reach 300-400 rpms easy. Even more if you use a binary trigger.
ATF doesn't make law, they simply interpret it. Or so they say. They have reviewed bump stocks multiple time already and deemed it legal.
NRA is a traitorous organization, and its donation base ought to mutiny. Alternative gun lobbies at the countrywide level should be exalted by us as well.
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I have a bumpstock, its okay/10
lol I guess thats your answer.